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lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

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ed11563 · Guru

Sounds like a game of ping-pong.

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.
Prove it.
Prove that He doesn't.

What is WITH you people, what with proving a negative and garbage turning into Swiss watches? Didn't any of you ever take a science class?

burns07 · Guru

What is WITH you people, what with proving a negative and garbage turning into Swiss watches? Didn't any of you ever take a science class?
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yawn

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Garbage turning into Swiss watches is a very poignant example of what you believe. Random processes with random chance occurrences producing something with complex precision. It's ridiculous that you beliwve that.Even you see your own absurdity.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You are the childish one yelling prove it but wont tackle the things that YOU claim are facts.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.
Prove it.
Prove that He doesn't.
What is WITH you people, what with proving a negative and garbage turning into Swiss watches? Didn't any of you ever take a science class?

You're the one screaming for proof.

You want us to prove God does exist.

I say you have the responsibility to prove He doesn't.

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Garbage turning into Swiss watches is a very poignant example of what you believe. Random processes with random chance occurrences producing something with complex precision. It's ridiculous that you beliwve that.Even you see your own absurdity.

AGAIN...that is NOT what I believe. Why do you lie so much?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

She doesnt have to prove God doesnt exist. What she DOES have to prove is how nothing poofed into everthing.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And yes. I did take science classes.

And if you can prove a positive, you can prove a negative.

Now my proof that God does exist is my personal relationship with Him.

Also the accounts in the Bible prove His existence.

So, it's up to you to prove to me He doesnt.

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.
Prove it.
Prove that He doesn't.
What is WITH you people, what with proving a negative and garbage turning into Swiss watches? Didn't any of you ever take a science class?
You're the one screaming for proof.
You want us to prove God does exist.
I say you have the responsibility to prove He doesn't.

I'm afraid not. The burden of proof is on you. And one more time with feeling...how do you expect me to prove a negative?

You shouldn't have slept through elementary science.

"I can't prove that X exists, so you have to prove that it doesn't."

It's a logical fallacy.

http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/146-proving-non-existence

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
And yes. I did take science classes.

And if you can prove a positive, you can prove a negative.

Now my proof that God does exist is my personal relationship with Him.

Also the accounts in the Bible prove His existence.

So, it's up to you to prove to me He doesnt.

I have a personal relationship with a pink unicorn that lives in my garage. That is proof of his existence. Does that make sense to you?

If you didn't sleep through science class, you must have prayed through it.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

The burden of PROOF is on YOU to show what YOU claim is true.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Funny how you keep skating and juking around that. Well i am waiting Welts. How did Nothing create everything ? Lets hear it Welts.

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
The burden of PROOF is on YOU to show what YOU claim is true.

WRONG.

The burden of proof rests with the one making the claim of existence. Didn't study logic in school either, I see. What the hell are they teaching kids down there?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You claim that God doesnt exist. That creation created itself. Now prove it. Or keep doing your lame dance of avoidance.

burns07 · Guru

The burden of proof rests with the one making the claim of existence. Didn't study logic in school either, I see. What the hell are they teaching kids down there?
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rather than christianity, would be infinitely more concerned there in the provinces about what MUSLIMS believe--and they couldn't care less about what you have/haven't studied or can argue/prove logically or otherwise

weltschmerz · Guru

burns07 wrote:

The burden of proof rests with the one making the claim of existence. Didn't study logic in school either, I see. What the hell are they teaching kids down there?
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rather than christianity, would be infinitely more concerned there in the provinces about what MUSLIMS believe--and they couldn't care less about what you have/haven't studied or can argue/prove logically or otherwise

I AM concerned with what the Muslims believe and I think letting so many economic migrants in was a huge mistake. Huge.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Nothing into everything Welts. Are you gonna answer?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

ed11563 wrote:
Sounds like a game of ping-pong.

Except ping pong eventually ENDS...

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

The fact that you cant see your own absurdity is striking. You will scoff at Christians saying God spoke nothing into something. But yet you believe that nothing became something yet refuse to address how. Then u scoff at the notion rhat God is eternal but then try to say that maybe matter is eyernal. You scoff at God directed intelligence then ascribe Godlike intelligence to see the the future and direct genes. You are the delusional one my dear.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I guess she disappeared again.

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.
Prove it.
Prove that He doesn't.
What is WITH you people, what with proving a negative and garbage turning into Swiss watches? Didn't any of you ever take a science class?
You're the one screaming for proof.
You want us to prove God does exist.
I say you have the responsibility to prove He doesn't.

I'm afraid not. The burden of proof is on you. And one more time with feeling...how do you expect me to prove a negative?
You shouldn't have slept through elementary science.
"I can't prove that X exists, so you have to prove that it doesn't."
It's a logical fallacy.
http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/146-proving-non-existence

It's not a "fallacy". You just can't do it.

You have been offered proof--you just choose not to regard it as such.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

She wont listen to you nor answer my questions. She demands proof and answers from us but wont actually answer us. Go figure.

ed11563 · Guru

Like I said before, you're playing ping-pong..

People are hitting the ball back and forth, and no one is going to listen.

Everyone's mind started out made up. No amount of rationale or reason will open a door, or turn a light on.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

ed11563 wrote:
Like I said before, you're playing ping-pong..
People are hitting the ball back and forth, and no one is going to listen.
Everyone's mind started out made up. No amount of rationale or reason will open a door, or turn a light on.

Yup...boring.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She wont listen to you nor answer my questions. She demands proof and answers from us but wont actually answer us. Go figure.

That is not new, and yet you are still trying. Masochist, much?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She wont listen to you nor answer my questions. She demands proof and answers from us but wont actually answer us. Go figure.
That is not new, and yet you are still trying. Masochist, much?

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She wont listen to you nor answer my questions. She demands proof and answers from us but wont actually answer us. Go figure.
That is not new, and yet you are still trying. Masochist, much?

I love a challenge. I am very tenacious! smile

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She wont listen to you nor answer my questions. She demands proof and answers from us but wont actually answer us. Go figure.
That is not new, and yet you are still trying. Masochist, much?
I love a challenge. I am very tenacious!

Some things are just hopeless.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Saturday 2nd of January 2016 11:55:35 AM

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:

And THAT is your CHOICE.

flan

huskerbb · Guru

Sure, but the consequences of making the wrong one are very poor.

People make other poor choices, too--get wasted on meth or whatever.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Saturday 2nd of January 2016 03:53:01 PM

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:

Ah. That old canard, Pascal's Wager.

Maybe it's "better" and maybe it's not, but if I don't believe, then acting as if I do is pretty pointless.

How do you propose I FORCE myself to believe?

If I tell you it's "better" to believe in Spiderman, can you do it?

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I guess she disappeared again.

You're kidding right? Some of us have lives outside this board. I'm supposed to babysit my posts, in case someone answers?

Keep participating in this endless loop? White-knuckling it in the hopes that there's another Creationist jeremiad in the works?

Last night I went to a fund-raiser, where a friend of mine was performing. Tonight I may go to the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts to see the birds making music on Les Paul and Gibson guitars.

Do I have your permission?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I guess she disappeared again.
You're kidding right? Some of us have lives outside this board. I'm supposed to babysit my posts, in case someone answers?
Keep participating in this endless loop? White-knuckling it in the hopes that there's another Creationist jeremiad in the works?
Last night I went to a fund-raiser, where a friend of mine was performing. Tonight I may go to the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts to see the birds making music on Les Paul and Gibson guitars.
Do I have your permission?

You have MY permission.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
Sure, but the consequences of making the wrong one are very poor.

People make other poor choices, too--get wasted on meth or whatever.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Saturday 2nd of January 2016 03:53:01 PM

If there is a God, I doubt he wants people pretending to believe in him...

flan

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ah. That old canard, Pascal's Wager.
Maybe it's "better" and maybe it's not, but if I don't believe, then acting as if I do is pretty pointless.
How do you propose I FORCE myself to believe?
If I tell you it's "better" to believe in Spiderman, can you do it?

Belief is a choice.

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ah. That old canard, Pascal's Wager.
Maybe it's "better" and maybe it's not, but if I don't believe, then acting as if I do is pretty pointless.
How do you propose I FORCE myself to believe?
If I tell you it's "better" to believe in Spiderman, can you do it?
Belief is a choice.

Disbelief is not. I didn't wake up one fine morning and say "I think I'll stop believing in God today!"

huskerbb · Guru

Of course it is.

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Of course it is.

Wrong as usual, in spite of your arrogant signature.

Personal secularity is a combination of brain function combined with access to knowledge and information.

That adds up to an individual who espouses critical thinking and does not accept supernatural explanations.

It's accumulated knowledge vs social indoctrination.

NOT a choice.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

It is most DEFINITELY not a choice. Either is love, as you like to claim.

flan

chef · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Of course it is.
Wrong as usual, in spite of your arrogant signature.
Personal secularity is a combination of brain function combined with access to knowledge and information.
That adds up to an individual who espouses critical thinking and does not accept supernatural explanations.
It's accumulated knowledge vs social indoctrination.
NOT a choice.

One can espouse critical thinking and still believe in God.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
It is most DEFINITELY not a choice. Either is love, as you like to claim.

flan

It absolutely is.

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Of course it is.
Wrong as usual, in spite of your arrogant signature.
Personal secularity is a combination of brain function combined with access to knowledge and information.
That adds up to an individual who espouses critical thinking and does not accept supernatural explanations.
It's accumulated knowledge vs social indoctrination.
NOT a choice.

LOL. My accumulated knowledge so far surpasses yours it's like comparing a 1 year old with a college graduate.

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Of course it is.
Wrong as usual, in spite of your arrogant signature.
Personal secularity is a combination of brain function combined with access to knowledge and information.
That adds up to an individual who espouses critical thinking and does not accept supernatural explanations.
It's accumulated knowledge vs social indoctrination.
NOT a choice.
LOL. My accumulated knowledge so far surpasses yours it's like comparing a 1 year old with a college graduate.

ROTFLMAO!!!

You're adorable!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I guess she disappeared again.
You're kidding right? Some of us have lives outside this board. I'm supposed to babysit my posts, in case someone answers?
Keep participating in this endless loop? White-knuckling it in the hopes that there's another Creationist jeremiad in the works?
Last night I went to a fund-raiser, where a friend of mine was performing. Tonight I may go to the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts to see the birds making music on Les Paul and Gibson guitars.
Do I have your permission?

You do know that Les Paul is a signature series of Gibson, right?

But yes, it is a nice guitar. Full tones.

Takamine makes a beautiful guitar as well. Have a friend who plays a 12 string. Pearl white. It's truly soul warming watching and hearing him play.

My pawpaw had several of the Les Paul guitars.

I had a junior Gibson acustic.

huskerbb · Guru

I know I'm adorable. It's another of my fine qualities.

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Of course it is.
Wrong as usual, in spite of your arrogant signature.
Personal secularity is a combination of brain function combined with access to knowledge and information.
That adds up to an individual who espouses critical thinking and does not accept supernatural explanations.
It's accumulated knowledge vs social indoctrination.
NOT a choice.
LOL. My accumulated knowledge so far surpasses yours it's like comparing a 1 year old with a college graduate.

That's an argument worthy of a one year old.

All that's missing is a red-faced foot-stomping. Cute.