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Mother was mutilated and murdered by ISIS for breastfeeding her baby in public after another woman spotted the child under her burkha in Syria

  • Mother caught breastfeeding in Raqqa by ISIS's all-female police
  • Despite holding son under her burqa, al-Khansaa Brigade objected 
  • Woman was mutilated before she was killed by al-Khansaa 'officers'
  • ISIS-linked social media sites said she had 'violated public decency'
  • See full news coverage on ISIS at www.dailymail.co.uk/isis 

 

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A woman has been brutally murdered by ISIS's female police for breastfeeding her child in public, according to witness reports.

The woman had been breastfeeding her son under the cover of her burqa, in Raqqa, northern Syria when she was spotted by ISIS's feared women police force; the al-Khansaa Brigade.

Despite shielding herself and the child from public view under her full-veil burqa, the Al-Khansaa Brigade ruled she had been 'violating public decency'. 

Brutal: The woman had been breastfeeding her son under her burqa in Raqqa, Syria, when she was spotted by a member of the feared all-female ISIS police brigade al-Khansaa (pictured)

Brutal: The woman had been breastfeeding her son under her burqa in Raqqa, Syria, when she was spotted by a member of the feared all-female ISIS police brigade al-Khansaa (pictured)

'An ISIS policewoman took the baby, gave it to another woman, and then killed the mother,' Aisha, a former Raqqa resident now living Turkey, told the Sunday Times.

The mother was reportedly mutilated before she was murdered, according to ISIS-linked social media accounts, where it was proclaimed the victim had 'violated public decency'

The al-Khansaa Brigade is an all-women militia set up by ISIS just over a year ago and functions as the terror group's 'moral police' in it's self-proclaimed 'capital' Raqqa. 

Covered in black from head-to-toe and wielding automatic weapons, the group has been accused of doling out savage beatings on the streets of Raqqa and spying on its citizens.

They are said to mercilessly patrol the streets of the terror group's adopted capital and has previously declared children as young as nine should be married, women should obey men – who are their masters – and remain 'hidden and veiled' at all times.

'Punishment': Witnesses said the woman was mutilated by a female policewoman before she was killed

'Punishment': Witnesses said the woman was mutilated by a female policewoman before she was killed



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3377183/Mother-mutilated-murdered-ISIS-breastfeeding-baby-public-woman-spotted-child-burkha-Syria.html#ixzz3viehuHFg 
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This gets more & more terrifying. I really bothers me that it was an all female police force that did this.

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Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 Because we are not them and I hope we never become like them.



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Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 



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Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.



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Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.


 How is it not the same thing?  They are killing their own.  To kill the bad ones, we'd have to bomb them all.



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Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.


 How is it not the same thing?  They are killing their own.  To kill the bad ones, we'd have to bomb them all.


Killing their own is okay?

You have got to be kidding. 



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huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.


 How is it not the same thing?  They are killing their own.  To kill the bad ones, we'd have to bomb them all.


 Because it's not remotely comparable.  Where are the concentration camps here?  

Cities with civilian populations I'll give you--and we did bomb those.

Your grasp of history is almost nonexistent.



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This gets more & more terrifying. I really bothers me that it was an all female police force that did this.


 Exactly this!

It reminds me of the African woman who perform genital mutilation on young girls.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.


 How is it not the same thing?  They are killing their own.  To kill the bad ones, we'd have to bomb them all.


 Because it's not remotely comparable.  Where are the concentration camps here?  

Cities with civilian populations I'll give you--and we did bomb those.

Your grasp of history is almost nonexistent.


 Husker, shut up.  I'm damn sick and tired of you telling me I don't understand history when I have a degree with HONORS in it and am part of the National HIstorical Honor Society.  We are not at war with a country, so comparing bombing ISIS and innocent civilians getting killed to WAR is just plain STUPID and shows a level of ignorance not normally found in educated people.



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Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.


 How is it not the same thing?  They are killing their own.  To kill the bad ones, we'd have to bomb them all.


 Because it's not remotely comparable.  Where are the concentration camps here?  

Cities with civilian populations I'll give you--and we did bomb those.

Your grasp of history is almost nonexistent.


 Husker, shut up.  I'm damn sick and tired of you telling me I don't understand history when I have a degree with HONORS in it and am part of the National HIstorical Honor Society.  We are not at war with a country, so comparing bombing ISIS and innocent civilians getting killed to WAR is just plain STUPID and shows a level of ignorance not normally found in educated people.


 It must not have stuck.  YOU brought up bmobbing concentration camps.

 

we ARE at war.  Just because you have no skin in that doesn't mean no one does.  



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huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
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Lawyerlady wrote:
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Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.


 How is it not the same thing?  They are killing their own.  To kill the bad ones, we'd have to bomb them all.


 Because it's not remotely comparable.  Where are the concentration camps here?  

Cities with civilian populations I'll give you--and we did bomb those.

Your grasp of history is almost nonexistent.


 Husker, shut up.  I'm damn sick and tired of you telling me I don't understand history when I have a degree with HONORS in it and am part of the National HIstorical Honor Society.  We are not at war with a country, so comparing bombing ISIS and innocent civilians getting killed to WAR is just plain STUPID and shows a level of ignorance not normally found in educated people.


 It must not have stuck.  YOU brought up bmobbing concentration camps.

 

we ARE at war.  Just because you have no skin in that doesn't mean no one does.  


 What country have we declared war on? 



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And I brought up the concentration camps b/c I was talking to ed and he doesn't seem to care about innocent people being killed in the name of this "war", so I wanted to drive home people he cared about vs. the unknown.

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Ok.

So what do you propose we do?

I mean, our president said we shouldn't worry about women and children.

But here we have women killing in the street.

So? What do we do?

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Ok.

So what do you propose we do?

I mean, our president said we shouldn't worry about women and children.

But here we have women killing in the street.

So? What do we do?


 I'm confused by the logic, here?  You are concerned about them killing their own people, so you'd just rather do it for them?



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We strategically bomb trying to avoid killing civilians if possible. To propose just bombing the crap out of everyone will just create more future terrorist.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.


 How is it not the same thing?  They are killing their own.  To kill the bad ones, we'd have to bomb them all.


 Because it's not remotely comparable.  Where are the concentration camps here?  

Cities with civilian populations I'll give you--and we did bomb those.

Your grasp of history is almost nonexistent.


 Husker, shut up.  I'm damn sick and tired of you telling me I don't understand history when I have a degree with HONORS in it and am part of the National HIstorical Honor Society.  We are not at war with a country, so comparing bombing ISIS and innocent civilians getting killed to WAR is just plain STUPID and shows a level of ignorance not normally found in educated people.


 It must not have stuck.  YOU brought up bmobbing concentration camps.

 

we ARE at war.  Just because you have no skin in that doesn't mean no one does.  


 What country have we declared war on? 


 Irrelevant.  One does not have to have a declaration of war to be at war.  the minute Japan dropped the first bimb on Pearl Harbor, we were at war even though none had been declared.  Vietnam was a war--ask any vet who was there.

but then, we know you don't give a crap about those who serve.



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And I brought up the concentration camps b/c I was talking to ed and he doesn't seem to care about innocent people being killed in the name of this "war", so I wanted to drive home people he cared about vs. the unknown.


 And that's a ridiculous comparison.  The appropriate comparison would be civilians in cities and villages.



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Putting words in peoples mouth again husker?

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Putting words in peoples mouth again husker?


 No.



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Yes. LL has never said she doesn't give a crap about veterans. That's just you putting words in her mouth to support your argument.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
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Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.


 How is it not the same thing?  They are killing their own.  To kill the bad ones, we'd have to bomb them all.


 Because it's not remotely comparable.  Where are the concentration camps here?  

Cities with civilian populations I'll give you--and we did bomb those.

Your grasp of history is almost nonexistent.


 Husker, shut up.  I'm damn sick and tired of you telling me I don't understand history when I have a degree with HONORS in it and am part of the National HIstorical Honor Society.  We are not at war with a country, so comparing bombing ISIS and innocent civilians getting killed to WAR is just plain STUPID and shows a level of ignorance not normally found in educated people.


 It must not have stuck.  YOU brought up bmobbing concentration camps.

 

we ARE at war.  Just because you have no skin in that doesn't mean no one does.  


 What country have we declared war on? 


 Irrelevant.  One does not have to have a declaration of war to be at war.  the minute Japan dropped the first bimb on Pearl Harbor, we were at war even though none had been declared.  Vietnam was a war--ask any vet who was there.

but then, we know you don't give a crap about those who serve.


 LOL!  It is not irrelevant if you are going to kill innocent people in a country we haven't declared war on. 

And hello....soldiers went to jail for killing innocent people in Vietnam.  You can't just kill people indiscriminately.  And you should NOT be advocating turning our soldiers into murderers.  They are NOT Nazis.  Shame on you.

 



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Ok.

So what do you propose we do?

I mean, our president said we shouldn't worry about women and children.

But here we have women killing in the street.

So? What do we do?


 I'm confused by the logic, here?  You are concerned about them killing their own people, so you'd just rather do it for them?


 No.

I'm concerned with it spilling into our streets.

I want to stop it before it's you, me or our girls being beaten and killed.



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Yes. LL has never said she doesn't give a crap about veterans. That's just you putting words in her mouth to support your argument.


 It's deflection and inflamatory idiocy because he doesn't have a coherent argument.  It's nothing different than what the liberal media does. 

Husker likes yellow journalism.



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And you didn't answer the question.

What do we do?

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Ok.

So what do you propose we do?

I mean, our president said we shouldn't worry about women and children.

But here we have women killing in the street.

So? What do we do?


 I'm confused by the logic, here?  You are concerned about them killing their own people, so you'd just rather do it for them?


 No.

I'm concerned with it spilling into our streets.

I want to stop it before it's you, me or our girls being beaten and killed.


 And if it gets to our streets, you are ok with them just dropping bombs and killing innocent Americans to get the bad guy?



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I answered your question upthread lily. I didn't realize it was to a specific person.

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And you didn't answer the question.

What do we do?


 This is a group of people.  We train special military forces to go kill them.  We stop letting people into our country that have been anywhere that is sympathetic to terrorists, we strategically target them.  We don't just ignore collateral damage. 



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Lawyerlady wrote:
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Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.


 How is it not the same thing?  They are killing their own.  To kill the bad ones, we'd have to bomb them all.


Killing their own is okay?

You have got to be kidding. 


 Of course not - but when the suggested solution is to kill them ALL instead of just the bad ones, what the hell kind of logic is that?  You would be killing the people you are supposedly avenging.  Don't pretend you care and it's anything but an excuse.



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I dont think any of them are innocent. They are either actively supporting ISIS or they are giving aid. They need to be taken out. Period.

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I dont think any of them are innocent. They are either actively supporting ISIS or they are giving aid. They need to be taken out. Period.


 Thank God not everyone feels the way you do.

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And you didn't answer the question.

What do we do?


 This is a group of people.  We train special military forces to go kill them.  We stop letting people into our country that have been anywhere that is sympathetic to terrorists, we strategically target them.  We don't just ignore collateral damage. 


 All very well and good. Sounds like a plan.

But doesn't it go against our Constitution? 

 



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I answered your question upthread lily. I didn't realize it was to a specific person.


 Yes. I saw that.

No. Not really to any one person.

 



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Lawyerlady wrote:
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Lawyerlady wrote:
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Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.


 How is it not the same thing?  They are killing their own.  To kill the bad ones, we'd have to bomb them all.


Killing their own is okay?

You have got to be kidding. 


 Of course not - but when the suggested solution is to kill them ALL instead of just the bad ones, what the hell kind of logic is that?  You would be killing the people you are supposedly avenging.  Don't pretend you care and it's anything but an excuse.


Sorry, but you are not making any sense at all with your last sentence.

War is fluid. Is war today the same as, say 200 years ago? Or 300 years ago? Or 100 years from now?

Every single war has changed how it was fought throughout history. The war on terror is a new concept of war. We must adapt or die.

There has never been a war in which innocents have not died. This war is no different and can not be different due to the "change" in terror tactics. Terrorists do not care about "peace treaties" signed by "nations".

Remember, you are placing YOUR values on them. They are not abiding by YOUR values or anyone else's for that matter.



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And you didn't answer the question.

What do we do?


 This is a group of people.  We train special military forces to go kill them.  We stop letting people into our country that have been anywhere that is sympathetic to terrorists, we strategically target them.  We don't just ignore collateral damage. 


 All very well and good. Sounds like a plan.

But doesn't it go against our Constitution? 

 


 Does what go against our Constitution?  Killing terrorists overseas?  Keeping out foriegners?  What exactly? 



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And you didn't answer the question.

What do we do?


 This is a group of people.  We train special military forces to go kill them.  We stop letting people into our country that have been anywhere that is sympathetic to terrorists, we strategically target them.  We don't just ignore collateral damage. 


 All very well and good. Sounds like a plan.

But doesn't it go against our Constitution? 

 


 Does what go against our Constitution?  Killing terrorists overseas?  Keeping out foriegners?  What exactly? 


 The keeping out foreigners. 

Maybe it doesn't go against the Constitution but it does go against the ideals of our founding fathers. 

 



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Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.


 How is it not the same thing?  They are killing their own.  To kill the bad ones, we'd have to bomb them all.


Killing their own is okay?

You have got to be kidding. 


 Of course not - but when the suggested solution is to kill them ALL instead of just the bad ones, what the hell kind of logic is that?  You would be killing the people you are supposedly avenging.  Don't pretend you care and it's anything but an excuse.


Sorry, but you are not making any sense at all with your last sentence.

War is fluid. Is war today the same as, say 200 years ago? Or 300 years ago? Or 100 years from now?

Every single war has changed how it was fought throughout history. The war on terror is a new concept of war. We must adapt or die.

There has never been a war in which innocents have not died. This war is no different and can not be different due to the "change" in terror tactics. Terrorists do not care about "peace treaties" signed by "nations".

Remember, you are placing YOUR values on them. They are not abiding by YOUR values or anyone else's for that matter.


 I'm applying my values, OUR values, to US.  We are not ISIS, and regardless of what THEY do, it should not affect our morals, our values, and our sense of decency.

The last sentence means that if you were to bomb ISIS over them killing other Muslims, it would not be because you care about those Muslims, it would be because you were using it as an excuse to justify killing them and whoever else happens to get in the way.



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I promise I am not trying to argue.

I am seriously wondering and asking questions.

This has no sure fire answer that will magically end the problem.



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And you didn't answer the question.

What do we do?


 This is a group of people.  We train special military forces to go kill them.  We stop letting people into our country that have been anywhere that is sympathetic to terrorists, we strategically target them.  We don't just ignore collateral damage. 


 All very well and good. Sounds like a plan.

But doesn't it go against our Constitution? 

 


 Does what go against our Constitution?  Killing terrorists overseas?  Keeping out foriegners?  What exactly? 


 The keeping out foreigners. 

Maybe it doesn't go against the Constitution but it does go against the ideals of our founding fathers. 

 


 Complete BS.  We have long regulated our borders and have every right to do so.  



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And you didn't answer the question.

What do we do?


 This is a group of people.  We train special military forces to go kill them.  We stop letting people into our country that have been anywhere that is sympathetic to terrorists, we strategically target them.  We don't just ignore collateral damage. 


 All very well and good. Sounds like a plan.

But doesn't it go against our Constitution? 

 


 Does what go against our Constitution?  Killing terrorists overseas?  Keeping out foriegners?  What exactly? 


 The keeping out foreigners. 

Maybe it doesn't go against the Constitution but it does go against the ideals of our founding fathers. 

 


 Idealism has to face reality on occasion.



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Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.


 How is it not the same thing?  They are killing their own.  To kill the bad ones, we'd have to bomb them all.


 Because it's not remotely comparable.  Where are the concentration camps here?  

Cities with civilian populations I'll give you--and we did bomb those.

Your grasp of history is almost nonexistent.


 Husker, shut up.  I'm damn sick and tired of you telling me I don't understand history when I have a degree with HONORS in it and am part of the National HIstorical Honor Society.  We are not at war with a country, so comparing bombing ISIS and innocent civilians getting killed to WAR is just plain STUPID and shows a level of ignorance not normally found in educated people.


 It must not have stuck.  YOU brought up bmobbing concentration camps.

 

we ARE at war.  Just because you have no skin in that doesn't mean no one does.  


 What country have we declared war on? 


 Irrelevant.  One does not have to have a declaration of war to be at war.  the minute Japan dropped the first bimb on Pearl Harbor, we were at war even though none had been declared.  Vietnam was a war--ask any vet who was there.

but then, we know you don't give a crap about those who serve.


 LOL!  It is not irrelevant if you are going to kill innocent people in a country we haven't declared war on. 

And hello....soldiers went to jail for killing innocent people in Vietnam.  You can't just kill people indiscriminately.  And you should NOT be advocating turning our soldiers into murderers.  They are NOT Nazis.  Shame on you.

 


Oh, so as long as we declare war we can kill all the civilians we want?  That is idiotic. 



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Yes. LL has never said she doesn't give a crap about veterans. That's just you putting words in her mouth to support your argument.


 She doesn't.  She has openly stated she is ok trading the lives of American soldiers for enemy civilians.



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Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.


 How is it not the same thing?  They are killing their own.  To kill the bad ones, we'd have to bomb them all.


 Because it's not remotely comparable.  Where are the concentration camps here?  

Cities with civilian populations I'll give you--and we did bomb those.

Your grasp of history is almost nonexistent.


 Husker, shut up.  I'm damn sick and tired of you telling me I don't understand history when I have a degree with HONORS in it and am part of the National HIstorical Honor Society.  We are not at war with a country, so comparing bombing ISIS and innocent civilians getting killed to WAR is just plain STUPID and shows a level of ignorance not normally found in educated people.


 It must not have stuck.  YOU brought up bmobbing concentration camps.

 

we ARE at war.  Just because you have no skin in that doesn't mean no one does.  


 What country have we declared war on? 


 Irrelevant.  One does not have to have a declaration of war to be at war.  the minute Japan dropped the first bimb on Pearl Harbor, we were at war even though none had been declared.  Vietnam was a war--ask any vet who was there.

but then, we know you don't give a crap about those who serve.


 LOL!  It is not irrelevant if you are going to kill innocent people in a country we haven't declared war on. 

And hello....soldiers went to jail for killing innocent people in Vietnam.  You can't just kill people indiscriminately.  And you should NOT be advocating turning our soldiers into murderers.  They are NOT Nazis.  Shame on you.

 


Oh, so as long as we declare war we can kill all the civilians we want?  That is idiotic. 


 Not according to you.  According to you, we can kill all the civilians we want just because they are near terrorists.



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Yes. LL has never said she doesn't give a crap about veterans. That's just you putting words in her mouth to support your argument.


 She doesn't.  She has openly stated she is ok trading the lives of American soldiers for enemy civilians.


 Uh, no I have not.  That is a flat out lie. 



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Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
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Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

Tell me again why we're worried about collateral damage from bombing them in this war?

 


 I suppose, to kill the Nazis, we could have just bombed all the concentration camps they were working in. 


 Not remotely the same thing.  

 

We did bomb the hell out of many German cities.


 How is it not the same thing?  They are killing their own.  To kill the bad ones, we'd have to bomb them all.


 Because it's not remotely comparable.  Where are the concentration camps here?  

Cities with civilian populations I'll give you--and we did bomb those.

Your grasp of history is almost nonexistent.


 Husker, shut up.  I'm damn sick and tired of you telling me I don't understand history when I have a degree with HONORS in it and am part of the National HIstorical Honor Society.  We are not at war with a country, so comparing bombing ISIS and innocent civilians getting killed to WAR is just plain STUPID and shows a level of ignorance not normally found in educated people.


 It must not have stuck.  YOU brought up bmobbing concentration camps.

 

we ARE at war.  Just because you have no skin in that doesn't mean no one does.  


 What country have we declared war on? 


 Irrelevant.  One does not have to have a declaration of war to be at war.  the minute Japan dropped the first bimb on Pearl Harbor, we were at war even though none had been declared.  Vietnam was a war--ask any vet who was there.

but then, we know you don't give a crap about those who serve.


 LOL!  It is not irrelevant if you are going to kill innocent people in a country we haven't declared war on. 

And hello....soldiers went to jail for killing innocent people in Vietnam.  You can't just kill people indiscriminately.  And you should NOT be advocating turning our soldiers into murderers.  They are NOT Nazis.  Shame on you.

 


Oh, so as long as we declare war we can kill all the civilians we want?  That is idiotic. 


 Not according to you.  According to you, we can kill all the civilians we want just because they are near terrorists.


 You are the one trying to make some distinction where there is none.



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Yes. LL has never said she doesn't give a crap about veterans. That's just you putting words in her mouth to support your argument.


 She doesn't.  She has openly stated she is ok trading the lives of American soldiers for enemy civilians.


 Uh, no I have not.  That is a flat out lie. 


 You absolutely have.  We had an entire argument about a marine who killed a kid in the heat of battle.  



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Yes. LL has never said she doesn't give a crap about veterans. That's just you putting words in her mouth to support your argument.


 She doesn't.  She has openly stated she is ok trading the lives of American soldiers for enemy civilians.


 Uh, no I have not.  That is a flat out lie. 


 You absolutely have.  We had an entire argument about a marine who killed a kid in the heat of battle.  


 And I never said he should DIE.  WTF???  I never even said he should go to prison.  I said he should have been trained better - which is TRUE.  If he can't assess a situation before he starts shooting, he was not trained well enough.  And I remember the argument back - that is wasn't his fault, he was only given 6 weeks of training before being sent to war.  Which only supports my position that he was not trained well enough.



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