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huskerbb · Guru

RE: Mom doesn't want me drinking in their house

Tinydancer · Guru

Keep making excuses...lol

huskerbb · Guru

Heck, read e link provided by honeys mom. It is from a clean and sober resource website.

The question directly asked is whether one is an alcoholic if they drink every day. The answer given by a clean and sober website is "not necessarily".

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Tinydancer wrote:
Keep making excuses...lol

He doesn't understand need vs want.

Physical addiction isn't about amount.

It's about the chemical imbalance.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
Keep making excuses...lol

Excuses for what?

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Keep making excuses...lol
He doesn't understand need vs want.
Physical addiction isn't about amount.
It's about the chemical imbalance.

No, you dont.

Tinydancer · Guru

For why you drink too much. Every thread about alcohol you get like this so there is a reason. Maybe way in the back of your mind you know you have a problem but you're not ready to admit it yet. That's ok. It doesn't affect me either way.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Keep making excuses...lol
He doesn't understand need vs want.
Physical addiction isn't about amount.
It's about the chemical imbalance.
No, you dont.

And this proves my point.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
For why you drink too much. Every thread about alcohol you get like this so there is a reason. Maybe way in the back of your mind you know you have a problem but you're not ready to admit it yet. That's ok. It doesn't affect me either way.

???? And how much is that?

Again, read the literature on the subject. Even using their definitions you are wrong.

Tinydancer · Guru

Keep saying I'm wrong. It changes my opinion not at all.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I use common definitions. "Normal" is what most people would think. Not those that think chugging back 4 drinks a day is low.

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Heck, read e link provided by honeys mom. It is from a clean and sober resource website.

The question directly asked is whether one is an alcoholic if they drink every day. The answer given by a clean and sober website is "not necessarily".

Not necessarily a raging alcoholic, but if you can't go a single day without drinking, there's definitely a problem.

Just because you SAY you're right, doesn't make you right, despite your signature.

Why are you so vociferous in defending daily drinking? Is there something you would like to share with the class?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, then i guess you have to say the same thing about people taking their daily prescription meds because there are a hell of a lot of people taking xanax, and all kinds of pills on a daily basis.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
I use common definitions. "Normal" is what most people would think. Not those that think chugging back 4 drinks a day is low.

It is low.

again, your working definition seems to be anyone who drinks more than you do is an alcoholic,

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Heck, read e link provided by honeys mom. It is from a clean and sober resource website.

The question directly asked is whether one is an alcoholic if they drink every day. The answer given by a clean and sober website is "not necessarily".
Not necessarily a raging alcoholic, but if you can't go a single day without drinking, there's definitely a problem.
Just because you SAY you're right, doesn't make you right, despite your signature.
Why are you so vociferous in defending daily drinking? Is there something you would like to share with the class?

I'm going by the definition posted on a website dedicated to helping people get clean and sober.

Tinydancer · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well, then i guess you have to say the same thing about people taking their daily prescription meds because there are a hell of a lot of people taking xanax, and all kinds of pills on a daily basis.

Until my doctor writes me a perscription to drink every day I'll have to settle for my heart meds...lol

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Heck, read e link provided by honeys mom. It is from a clean and sober resource website.

The question directly asked is whether one is an alcoholic if they drink every day. The answer given by a clean and sober website is "not necessarily".
Not necessarily a raging alcoholic, but if you can't go a single day without drinking, there's definitely a problem.
Just because you SAY you're right, doesn't make you right, despite your signature.
Why are you so vociferous in defending daily drinking? Is there something you would like to share with the class?

I'm going by the definition posted on a website dedicated to helping people get clean and sober.

So? I posted a website that says you have to have two booze-free days a week.

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Heck, read e link provided by honeys mom. It is from a clean and sober resource website.

The question directly asked is whether one is an alcoholic if they drink every day. The answer given by a clean and sober website is "not necessarily".
Not necessarily a raging alcoholic, but if you can't go a single day without drinking, there's definitely a problem.
Just because you SAY you're right, doesn't make you right, despite your signature.
Why are you so vociferous in defending daily drinking? Is there something you would like to share with the class?

I'm going by the definition posted on a website dedicated to helping people get clean and sober.
So? I posted a website that says you have to have two booze-free days a week.

Those are dietary guidelines. They say nothing about whether or not one is an alcoholic.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well, then i guess you have to say the same thing about people taking their daily prescription meds because there are a hell of a lot of people taking xanax, and all kinds of pills on a daily basis.
Until my doctor writes me a perscription to drink every day I'll have to settle for my heart meds...lol

That's not what i am talking about. People get a daily prescription, so Oh in have a prescription from my doctor to take daily mood altering drugs and that is somehow different than someone having a beer or glass of wine every day. Sure.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Heck, read e link provided by honeys mom. It is from a clean and sober resource website.

The question directly asked is whether one is an alcoholic if they drink every day. The answer given by a clean and sober website is "not necessarily".
Not necessarily a raging alcoholic, but if you can't go a single day without drinking, there's definitely a problem.
Just because you SAY you're right, doesn't make you right, despite your signature.
Why are you so vociferous in defending daily drinking? Is there something you would like to share with the class?

So are you taking any drugs for anxiety, depression, etc? How would Husker having a beer be wrong and that be OK?

msrock · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well, then i guess you have to say the same thing about people taking their daily prescription meds because there are a hell of a lot of people taking xanax, and all kinds of pills on a daily basis.
Until my doctor writes me a perscription to drink every day I'll have to settle for my heart meds...lol
That's not what i am talking about. People get a daily prescription, so Oh in have a prescription from my doctor to take daily mood altering drugs and that is somehow different than someone having a beer or glass of wine every day. Sure.

I totally agree with you.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

In other countries, don't they drink on a daily basis? If you want to shake your finger and say "oh yes they are alcoholics", then have at it. Who cares? If they drink a couple drinks after work and are in their homes, what is that to you?

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Hi, my name's Lexxy & I'm an alcoholic......

msrock · Guru

Lexxy wrote:
Hi, my name's Lexxy & I'm an alcoholic......

aww

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
In other countries, don't they drink on a daily basis? If you want to shake your finger and say "oh yes they are alcoholics", then have at it. Who cares? If they drink a couple drinks after work and are in their homes, what is that to you?

People like to put labels on others. Makes them feel all superior or something.

TrudyML · Guru

Lexxy wrote:
Hi, my name's Lexxy & I'm an alcoholic......

You get you stash for the weekend?

huskerbb · Guru

Watch this...

I can channel my inner Taylor Swift....

"Haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate..."
wink

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

They sell wine in boxes so obviously people are drinking a LOT in this country.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

TrudyML wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
Hi, my name's Lexxy & I'm an alcoholic......
You get you stash for the weekend?

Sure do! I stocked up during the holidays & may have over bought because there's still a full bottle in the cabinet biggrin

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
They sell wine in boxes so obviously people are drinking a LOT in this country.

But on average, we dont drink nearly as much as some countries. In fact, we are 48th in the world in terms of pure alcohol consumed per capita. We even trail Nigeria which has a high population of Muslims.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I think people still have a lot of puritan ideas about drinking. Personally, i think that life is about moderation. I think people can do most anything in moderation. But, Americans tend to love to live to excess. So, often there is a lot of excess no matter what it is. Eating, drinking, drugs, you name it.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, dont fret over Husker. Once Sharia law takes hold, he will get tossed off a high building.

huskerbb · Guru

Heck, we even drink less than Canada. Maybe welts can find some alcoholics there.

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Heck, we even drink less than Canada. Maybe welts can find some alcoholics there.

What difference does it make?

If an American or Canadian has to drink every single day, there's a problem.

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Heck, read e link provided by honeys mom. It is from a clean and sober resource website.

The question directly asked is whether one is an alcoholic if they drink every day. The answer given by a clean and sober website is "not necessarily".
Not necessarily a raging alcoholic, but if you can't go a single day without drinking, there's definitely a problem.
Just because you SAY you're right, doesn't make you right, despite your signature.
Why are you so vociferous in defending daily drinking? Is there something you would like to share with the class?

So are you taking any drugs for anxiety, depression, etc? How would Husker having a beer be wrong and that be OK?

No. I'm not.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Heck, we even drink less than Canada. Maybe welts can find some alcoholics there.
What difference does it make?
If an American or Canadian has to drink every single day, there's a problem.

Why? I drink coffee EVERY day of my life. Is that a problem? If someone drinks a couple of drinks a day in moderation so what?

weltschmerz · Guru

Fine. Booze it up. Every day. No problem.
If you can't tell the difference between coffee, prescribed medications and liquor, that's a problem in itself.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Fine. Booze it up. Every day. No problem.
If you can't tell the difference between coffee, prescribed medications and liquor, that's a problem in itself.

Who's boozing it up? Can you not actually have an actual conversation or debate about anything without your snark? DH doesn't drink so it isn't something i would do daily. He grew up in alcoholic home so he doesnt' like to be around it which is fine because i don't care about it all that much one way or another. But, if i am out with friends i can enjoy some wine or beer, big whoop. But, there are people in our social circle who drink daily. They aren't alcoholics. You can label them whatever you want to label them but they are normal people going to work and living their lives like anyone else. I don't see that they are having a problem. So, yeah, there are alcoholics and they need help and should get help.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tinydancer wrote:
Sorry to disagree but if it's EVERY day you're an alcoholic. That's a general "you're" and not specific to anyone because I don't personally know how much any one drinks.

That's an asinine statement.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

You (general you) can continue to believe drinking every day is fine and I'll continue to believe if you do you're an alcoholic. I'm not sure why it matters what I think if you're fine with what you're (general you) doing.

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Friday 8th of January 2016 01:09:51 PM

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

"Has to" "needs" "can't go without"

That isnt about amount. Isn't about quanity.

1 drink or 20.

Need. A physical need.

Has to drink or they get the shakes.

Can't go without it because they get the sweats.

Needs it because without it there body physically reacts badly.

An alcoholic isn't someone who just gets drunk or just drinks a lot cause they like it.

An alcoholic is dependent on alcohol.

-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Friday 8th of January 2016 01:10:58 PM

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Sorry to disagree but if it's EVERY day you're an alcoholic. That's a general "you're" and not specific to anyone because I don't personally know how much any one drinks.
That's an asinine statement.
flan

I'm guessing you would know all about assinine statements...

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Friday 8th of January 2016 01:12:35 PM

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Fine. Booze it up. Every day. No problem.
If you can't tell the difference between coffee, prescribed medications and liquor, that's a problem in itself.
Who's boozing it up? Can you not actually have an actual conversation or debate about anything without your snark? DH doesn't drink so it isn't something i would do daily. He grew up in alcoholic home so he doesnt' like to be around it which is fine because i don't care about it all that much one way or another. But, if i am out with friends i can enjoy some wine or beer, big whoop. But, there are people in our social circle who drink daily. They aren't alcoholics. You can label them whatever you want to label them but they are normal people going to work and living their lives like anyone else. I don't see that they are having a problem. So, yeah, there are alcoholics and they need help and should get help.

AGAIN...I'll type slowly....I never said anything about alcoholics.

If you need a drink every single day, you have a problem.

If you can't let a single day go by without alcohol, you have a problem.

weltschmerz · Guru

It means you have a dependency on alcohol, not that you're a raging alcoholic.
It's not rocket science.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
You (general you) can continue to believe drinking every day is fine and I'll continue to believe if you do you're an alcoholic. I'm not sure why it matters what I think if you're fine with what you're (general you) doing.

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Friday 8th of January 2016 01:09:51 PM

???? Because alcoholics aren't "fine". It causes huge problems.

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Heck, we even drink less than Canada. Maybe welts can find some alcoholics there.
What difference does it make?
If an American or Canadian has to drink every single day, there's a problem.

Who says anyone "has" to--but some people want to, and that in and of itself doesn't mean anything.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
"Has to" "needs" "can't go without"

That isnt about amount. Isn't about quanity.

1 drink or 20.

Need. A physical need.

Has to drink or they get the shakes.

Can't go without it because they get the sweats.

Needs it because without it there body physically reacts badly.

An alcoholic isn't someone who just gets drunk or just drinks a lot cause they like it.

An alcoholic is dependent on alcohol.

-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Friday 8th of January 2016 01:10:58 PM

Over the years I've had periods where I drank too much. When I decided to quit, I NEVER had the shakes or sweats. It's not heroin.

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
"Has to" "needs" "can't go without"

That isnt about amount. Isn't about quanity.

1 drink or 20.

Need. A physical need.

Has to drink or they get the shakes.

Can't go without it because they get the sweats.

Needs it because without it there body physically reacts badly.

An alcoholic isn't someone who just gets drunk or just drinks a lot cause they like it.

An alcoholic is dependent on alcohol.

-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Friday 8th of January 2016 01:10:58 PM
Over the years I've had periods where I drank too much. When I decided to quit, I NEVER had the shakes or sweats. It's not heroin.
flan

Nobody gets the shakes if they are only having a few drinks. Amount makes a HUGE difference.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
"Has to" "needs" "can't go without"

That isnt about amount. Isn't about quanity.

1 drink or 20.

Need. A physical need.

Has to drink or they get the shakes.

Can't go without it because they get the sweats.

Needs it because without it there body physically reacts badly.

An alcoholic isn't someone who just gets drunk or just drinks a lot cause they like it.

An alcoholic is dependent on alcohol.

-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Friday 8th of January 2016 01:10:58 PM
Over the years I've had periods where I drank too much. When I decided to quit, I NEVER had the shakes or sweats. It's not heroin.
flan
Nobody gets the shakes if they are only having a few drinks. Amount makes a HUGE difference.

How much, in your opinion?

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
"Has to" "needs" "can't go without"

That isnt about amount. Isn't about quanity.

1 drink or 20.

Need. A physical need.

Has to drink or they get the shakes.

Can't go without it because they get the sweats.

Needs it because without it there body physically reacts badly.

An alcoholic isn't someone who just gets drunk or just drinks a lot cause they like it.

An alcoholic is dependent on alcohol.

-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Friday 8th of January 2016 01:10:58 PM
Over the years I've had periods where I drank too much. When I decided to quit, I NEVER had the shakes or sweats. It's not heroin.
flan
Nobody gets the shakes if they are only having a few drinks. Amount makes a HUGE difference.
How much, in your opinion?
flan

It varies by size, body type, and a lot of factors.

The people who I've seen have the shakes, though, put down an entire bottle of scotch every night.