TOTALLY GEEKED!

The last time I went to a circus with animals, a disco ball was rolled across the stage. Very pretty, with the lights glittering off it. There was a majestic black panther jammed inside it. It was a disgusting display, and the last time I went.
I wouldn't let my child attend, either. It's like having a party at a puppy mill.

huskerbb wrote:

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Sometimes it's not all about you.

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Exactly. It's not about me. It's about animal abuse. 

weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Sometimes it's not all about you.

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Exactly. It's not about me. It's about animal abuse. 

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PFFFT.

 

Says you. 

 

LOOK AT ME!!!  I care about the poor circus animals!!  LOOK AT ME!!!

 

"Look at me! I approve of animal abuse!"
It goes both ways.
Damn right I care about the poor circus animals. Someone has to.
I suppose you wouldn't mind spending your life chained, caged, beaten, and forced to perform for idiots.
What fun!

huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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"Look at me! I approve of animal abuse!"
It goes both ways.
Damn right I care about the poor circus animals. Someone has to.
I suppose you wouldn't mind spending your life chained, caged, beaten, and forced to perform for idiots.
What fun!

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I don't remotely trust your definition of "animal abuse". 

 

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That's fine. I don't trust you about anything. 

weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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"Look at me! I approve of animal abuse!"
It goes both ways.
Damn right I care about the poor circus animals. Someone has to.
I suppose you wouldn't mind spending your life chained, caged, beaten, and forced to perform for idiots.
What fun!

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I don't remotely trust your definition of "animal abuse". 

 

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That's fine. I don't trust you about anything. 

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But then you've been proven wrong too many times to count on here.   

weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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"Look at me! I approve of animal abuse!"
It goes both ways.
Damn right I care about the poor circus animals. Someone has to.
I suppose you wouldn't mind spending your life chained, caged, beaten, and forced to perform for idiots.
What fun!

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I don't remotely trust your definition of "animal abuse". 

 

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That's fine. I don't trust you about anything. 

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But then you've been proven wrong too many times to count on here.   

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...and you're always right because you say so. Even when you're wrong.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Saturday 9th of January 2016 12:09:03 PM

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I'm right because I'm factually correct.  

huskerbb wrote:

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Whether or not you go to a circus--I don't care.

You just don't have to ruin crap for everyone else.

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 Declining an invitation is not ruining it for everyone else. 

huskerbb wrote:

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NAOW wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Whether or not you go to a circus--I don't care.

You just don't have to ruin crap for everyone else.

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 Declining an invitation is not ruining it for everyone else. 

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Yeah, in this case it rather is. 

Making your moral stand over some kid's birthday party puts a damper on the festivities.   

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 But they aren't mentioning it to the birthday child's parents.

They aren't even going to explain it to their own children, at this stage of the game, since they think their kids are too young to understand.

That was my take on the letter.

huskerbb wrote:

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NAOW wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Whether or not you go to a circus--I don't care.

You just don't have to ruin crap for everyone else.

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 Declining an invitation is not ruining it for everyone else. 

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Yeah, in this case it rather is. 

Making your moral stand over some kid's birthday party puts a damper on the festivities.   

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 I disagree. She's not sending her regrets with pamphlets on animal abuse, she's not even mentioning why they aren't going.

huskerbb wrote:

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NAOW wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Whether or not you go to a circus--I don't care.

You just don't have to ruin crap for everyone else.

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 Declining an invitation is not ruining it for everyone else. 

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Yeah, in this case it rather is. 

Making your moral stand over some kid's birthday party puts a damper on the festivities.   

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 Well, MAYBE next time they will choose a different venue.

Even as a child, I hated watching a circus on TV.

flan

Activists Ask Parents, Kids to Boycott Circus
Circus workers train and handle elephants by striking them with a bullhook or digging it into the most sensitive parts of the animals’ bodies.
Violent and cruel training methods, which also include the use of whips, electric prods, chains
and muzzles, are routinely used in circuses, including Ringling, which issues "sucker" statements,
claiming that its animals are well treated, to the media at every stop.
Ringling is a chronic violator of the federal Animal Welfare Act and has an abysmal history of deaths of animals in its care,
particularly in a recent two-year period:
* Two baby elephants died at Ringling.
One was forced to perform despite being visibly ill, costing the circus nearly $20,000 in a settlement with the U.S. Department of Agriculture
The other baby elephant drowned while being chased by a trainer.
* A horse known to be suffering from a chronic condition collapsed and died during Ringling’s animal march in Norfolk, Va.
* A tiger was shot dead while locked in his cage by a Ringling trainer.
* A wild-caught sea lion was discovered dead in her small transport cage.
"Beatings are part of everyday life for animals in circuses," says MAARA co-founder Bianca Phillips.
"We believe that if parents and kids are told the truth about the misery and suffering of animals in circuses,
they'll stop buying tickets."
For more information about the cruelty of circuses, please visit
Circuses.com

http://animom.tripod.com/circus.html

huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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NAOW wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Whether or not you go to a circus--I don't care.

You just don't have to ruin crap for everyone else.

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 Declining an invitation is not ruining it for everyone else. 

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Yeah, in this case it rather is. 

Making your moral stand over some kid's birthday party puts a damper on the festivities.   

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 Well, MAYBE next time they will choose a different venue.

Even as a child, I hated watching a circus on TV.

flan

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Ah, so you bully people into doing what you want by pouting and not letting your child go to some birthday party.  Got it.   

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 Did I write the OP?

I shared my opinion, which is that circuses MISTREAT animals. welts backed it up with facts.

flan

Mellow Momma wrote:

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FFS busker. They aren't even telling the birthday boy/family why they aren't going!! They are saying they had a prior family commitment. How is that ruining the fun for everyone else?!?! So now if one person declines an invitation it ruins it for everyone else????

-- Edited by Mellow Momma on Saturday 9th of January 2016 01:18:54 PM

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 Apparently, in husker's world.

flan

I loved the circus.

My kids loved the circus.

Barnum and Bailey puts on the best circuses.

We love zoos, rodeos, Sea World, Busch Gardens, aquariums and petting zoos.

They all have a place in teaching kids about animals. Creating a love of animals.

We never would have seen a dolphin, whale, lion elephant or any of the other animals of the world without those places and events.

No. Animals should not be abused.

But there is nothing wrong with training an animal to do tricks and putting on shows.

So glad my kids got to be kids.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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I loved the circus.

My kids loved the circus.

Barnum and Bailey puts on the best circuses.

We love zoos, rodeos, Sea World, Busch Gardens, aquariums and petting zoos.

They all have a place in teaching kids about animals. Creating a love of animals.

We never would have seen a dolphin, whale, lion elephant or any of the other animals of the world without those places and events.

No. Animals should not be abused.

But there is nothing wrong with training an animal to do tricks and putting on shows.

So glad my kids got to be kids.

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 While all circus animals suffer abuse, the animals that belong to the Ringling Brothers and Barnam and Bailey troupe are especially mistreated. The blatant violations of the Animal Welfare Act and deep history of cruelty and misconduct all to rarely come to mind when audiences hear the name “Ringling Brothers and Barnam and Bailey,” so let’s for a moment, pull back the curtain and expose what really goes on under the big top.        

At the age of 18-22 months, babies are removed from their mothers (who are forcibly restrained to prevent them from acting out to try and rescue their babies) and anchored to one another by ropes that are fastened around their necks. They then enter a six-month “breaking” process where their legs are tied together and they are forced to stand still for 23 hours a day. This process hinders every natural instinct a young elephant may have, and their days are spent in pain and anguish, deprived of the basic ability to even sit down for hours on end. By the end of these excruciating six months, these elephants lose all willingness to fight back and enter into the training process.

Using bull hooks, ropes, electric prods, and even fireplace pokers, elephants are forced to bow, lie down on command, and balance on their hind legs. This process is hidden completely from the public and is wholly unmonitored by any federal, state, or local entity.

http://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/ringling-brothers-barnam-bailey-cruelest-show-on-earth/

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Blah, blah, blah...

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 Torture is fun for the whole family!!!                                                   

lilyofcourse wrote:

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No.

But the circus is!

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I could say I'd like to see your legs tied together, prodded with hooks and electric prods, beaten and forced to do tricks.      

What fun that would be to watch!                    

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flan327 wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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FFS busker. They aren't even telling the birthday boy/family why they aren't going!! They are saying they had a prior family commitment. How is that ruining the fun for everyone else?!?! So now if one person declines an invitation it ruins it for everyone else????

-- Edited by Mellow Momma on Saturday 9th of January 2016 01:18:54 PM

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 Apparently, in husker's world.

flan

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 Right?! DD had her party last weekend at a trampoline park, two people couldn't come (they both had family in town..or so they said, haha!). I completely forgot to be offended and have an awful time. 

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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You could.

Sounds like a night og BDSM.

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flan

p.s. But the ANIMALS don't have a choice, now do they?

 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Blah, blah, blah...

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 So glad you could formulate a cogent argument. Nicely done!

lilyofcourse wrote:

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I really want to go to a bull fight someday.

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 Of course you do!

Maybe you could go to the Toro del Fuego, where they set live bulls on fire, for a nightcap. Bring the kids!

 

 

 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Who knows?

Do they eat it after?

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 What difference does it make? It's set on fire while it's ALIVE!

I'm so glad I got to see your true colours. Thanks for that.