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My mom showed up to my wedding in a formal gown. She actually bought three formal gowns. One for the wedding, one for the reception, and one for the going away. I wore my wedding dress the whole time. Didn't even have a going away outfit. My mom isn't in any of my wedding pictures because she was always in the room changing.

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My mom showed up to my wedding in a formal gown. She actually bought three formal gowns. One for the wedding, one for the reception, and one for the going away. I wore my wedding dress the whole time. Didn't even have a going away outfit. My mom isn't in any of my wedding pictures because she was always in the room changing.


LOL. Now that, is sweet revenge! Unintended of course. Wow, she wanted to be the star, didn't she. no 



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My mom showed up to my wedding in a formal gown. She actually bought three formal gowns. One for the wedding, one for the reception, and one for the going away. I wore my wedding dress the whole time. Didn't even have a going away outfit. My mom isn't in any of my wedding pictures because she was always in the room changing.


LOL. Now that, is sweet revenge! Unintended of course. Wow, she wanted to be the star, didn't she. no 


 My DH wanted to kill her.  When it came time for dinner she served herself before anyone else.  To this day he's pissed.  He says I should have been served first.



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My friends sister came to her wedding wearing a floor length, lacy white dress. I thought that was pretty rude.


 One of our good friends came to our wedding in a white dress.  My wife thought nothing of it.  We are still friends, today.   her boyfriend was in the wedding party.  We gave him a lot of crap about how good she looked walking down the aisle in a white dress.  



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My mom showed up to my wedding in a formal gown. She actually bought three formal gowns. One for the wedding, one for the reception, and one for the going away. I wore my wedding dress the whole time. Didn't even have a going away outfit. My mom isn't in any of my wedding pictures because she was always in the room changing.


 Food for thought ...

 

Mother of the bride, after an extensive search, found the perfect gown to wear to her daughter's wedding.

The bride to be was thrilled with it, and showed a picture of it to the groom and his mother. 

A few days before the wedding, the bride found out that the groom's mother like it so much …. that she bought the same dress to wear to the wedding!!!

She told her mother how upset she was, and how awful this b!tch was to do this …

Her mother, however, stayed calm. 

She told her daughter, "Don't worry about it Honey, I'll get the other one I was looking at. It will be fine."

"But MOM, what will you do with THIS ONE? It was expensive and you look wonderful in it!" 

"Don’t worry about it, I'll find a use for it. I'll just wear it to the Rehearsal Dinner".

 



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People get crazy over weddings. I remember my SIL calling me the night before the wedding. Dh's brother got the wrong tux. I was like "ok". And, she was like "aren't you upset"? I said no, why would i be? Things aren't a big deal unless you make them a big deal.

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My BIL's wedding is already shaping up to be epic. Future Bridezilla is panicking because she has to have the Catholic church annul her first wedding before she can marry my BIL who is devout Catholic. Bridezilla is former Mormon. She also wants the dogs in the wedding and no Catholic church will allow that.

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My BIL's wedding is already shaping up to be epic. Future Bridezilla is panicking because she has to have the Catholic church annul her first wedding before she can marry my BIL who is devout Catholic. Bridezilla is former Mormon. She also wants the dogs in the wedding and no Catholic church will allow that.


I'm surprised the devout Catholic BIL didn't mention it earlier. Surely he knows that she has to have the first marriage annulled.

How do they annul marriages, anyway?

"Presto Chango, your first marriage now doesn't count?" If it's a legal marriage, it counts.



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My BIL's wedding is already shaping up to be epic. Future Bridezilla is panicking because she has to have the Catholic church annul her first wedding before she can marry my BIL who is devout Catholic. Bridezilla is former Mormon. She also wants the dogs in the wedding and no Catholic church will allow that.


I'm surprised the devout Catholic BIL didn't mention it earlier. Surely he knows that she has to have the first marriage annulled.

How do they annul marriages, anyway?

"Presto Chango, your first marriage now doesn't count?" If it's a legal marriage, it counts.


 The church won't let her get married in the church unless they can prove the first marriage was set up to fail and therefore they should have never been allowed to get married.  In her case, they are hoping that because she got married so young and he was verbally abusive they get the annulment.



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People get crazy over weddings. I remember my SIL calling me the night before the wedding. Dh's brother got the wrong tux. I was like "ok". And, she was like "aren't you upset"? I said no, why would i be? Things aren't a big deal unless you make them a big deal.


 My FIL did this to me at the rehearsal dinner.  I had told all the guys to get a black tux.  They didn't have to all match but they needed to be similar  so no one stuck out.  Told them all to get black suit type tuxes with a regular red tie, not bow tie, and a red handkerchief.  My FIL said, I got my red tux.  My jaw dropped and I said NO BLACK.  He said, No you said red and a black tie and handkerchief.  Then I realized he was pulling my leg.



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My BIL's wedding is already shaping up to be epic. Future Bridezilla is panicking because she has to have the Catholic church annul her first wedding before she can marry my BIL who is devout Catholic. Bridezilla is former Mormon. She also wants the dogs in the wedding and no Catholic church will allow that.


I'm surprised the devout Catholic BIL didn't mention it earlier. Surely he knows that she has to have the first marriage annulled.

How do they annul marriages, anyway?

"Presto Chango, your first marriage now doesn't count?" If it's a legal marriage, it counts.


 Yeah i dont understand the annulment thing.  Maybe if you were only married as long as Kim Kardashian and whathisname.



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My SIL almost goes out of her way to ignore my kids. When DD was young, she would walk up to her and show her something and SIL wouldn't even respond. My BIL would have to jump in. He is such a fun guy and she is such a clod. I don't understand how this marriage works but it isn't my problem. I do know that any relationship that she could have had with them is off the table now.

Oh...there was a wedding slight as well. When their uncle got married, DD's were 14 and 8. They were hoping to be able to do something in the wedding - hand out programs, pass out the bubbles at the end, anything. She didn't ask them to help out at all. It was a big disappointment to them but we talked about it and the girls got over it. The day of the wedding comes and she had her 2 cousins in the wedding and her next door neighbors passing out programs. No biggie - but DD's felt a little bad about it. They were treated like virtual strangers at the wedding. Again, we never told anyone they felt bad for not being included somehow. We just discussed it at home as a family and they got over it quickly. No tantrums.


 

 

and you you were undoubtedly more careful about how you dealt with certain people going forward.


 But they were not asked to be in it from the beginning like the OP. They just hoped, that as the only nieces/nephews on either side of the family and after having grown up with their uncle (he is 9 years older than DD) that they would be asked to do something. Even something small. 



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Bonny22Pye wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:

My BIL's wedding is already shaping up to be epic. Future Bridezilla is panicking because she has to have the Catholic church annul her first wedding before she can marry my BIL who is devout Catholic. Bridezilla is former Mormon. She also wants the dogs in the wedding and no Catholic church will allow that.


I'm surprised the devout Catholic BIL didn't mention it earlier. Surely he knows that she has to have the first marriage annulled.

How do they annul marriages, anyway?

"Presto Chango, your first marriage now doesn't count?" If it's a legal marriage, it counts.


 The church won't let her get married in the church unless they can prove the first marriage was set up to fail and therefore they should have never been allowed to get married.  In her case, they are hoping that because she got married so young and he was verbally abusive they get the annulment.


Well. if you use that criteria, you can probably annul ANY failed marriage.

"This marriage was destined to fail because spouse was too young, too stupid to know what they were getting into, too old, too lazy, too controlling, too flirtatious, too verbally abusive, has too much of a wandering eye, too uninvolved, too suspicious, etc."

What's the point?

It's still a legal marriage and you can't just act like it never happened, and doesn't count.



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weltschmerz wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:

My BIL's wedding is already shaping up to be epic. Future Bridezilla is panicking because she has to have the Catholic church annul her first wedding before she can marry my BIL who is devout Catholic. Bridezilla is former Mormon. She also wants the dogs in the wedding and no Catholic church will allow that.


I'm surprised the devout Catholic BIL didn't mention it earlier. Surely he knows that she has to have the first marriage annulled.

How do they annul marriages, anyway?

"Presto Chango, your first marriage now doesn't count?" If it's a legal marriage, it counts.


 The church won't let her get married in the church unless they can prove the first marriage was set up to fail and therefore they should have never been allowed to get married.  In her case, they are hoping that because she got married so young and he was verbally abusive they get the annulment.


Well. if you use that criteria, you can probably annul ANY failed marriage.

"This marriage was destined to fail because spouse was too young, too stupid to know what they were getting into, too old, too lazy, too controlling, too flirtatious, too verbally abusive, has too much of a wandering eye, too uninvolved, too suspicious, etc."

What's the point?

It's still a legal marriage and you can't just act like it never happened, and doesn't count.


 welts,

Are you honestly trying to apply logic to the Catholic Church?

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Bonny22Pye wrote:

My BIL's wedding is already shaping up to be epic. Future Bridezilla is panicking because she has to have the Catholic church annul her first wedding before she can marry my BIL who is devout Catholic. Bridezilla is former Mormon. She also wants the dogs in the wedding and no Catholic church will allow that.


 This may require its own thread, Bonny.

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My mom showed up to my wedding in a formal gown. She actually bought three formal gowns. One for the wedding, one for the reception, and one for the going away. I wore my wedding dress the whole time. Didn't even have a going away outfit. My mom isn't in any of my wedding pictures because she was always in the room changing.


 Food for thought ...

 

 

 

Mother of the bride, after an extensive search, found the perfect gown to wear to her daughter's wedding.

The bride to be was thrilled with it, and showed a picture of it to the groom and his mother. 

A few days before the wedding, the bride found out that the groom's mother like it so much …. that she bought the same dress to wear to the wedding!!!

She told her mother how upset she was, and how awful this b!tch was to do this …

Her mother, however, stayed calm. 

She told her daughter, "Don't worry about it Honey, I'll get the other one I was looking at. It will be fine."

"But MOM, what will you do with THIS ONE? It was expensive and you look wonderful in it!" 

"Don’t worry about it, I'll find a use for it. I'll just wear it to the Rehearsal Dinner".

 


 That's a good one ed. Sweet revenge.



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If the church annuls your marriage, doesn't that make your children "illegitimate"?

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Bonny22Pye wrote:

My BIL's wedding is already shaping up to be epic. Future Bridezilla is panicking because she has to have the Catholic church annul her first wedding before she can marry my BIL who is devout Catholic. Bridezilla is former Mormon. She also wants the dogs in the wedding and no Catholic church will allow that.


Good gosh, why does she insist on having dogs in the church?

Sounds like she's a piece of work anyway. no 



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If the church annuls your marriage, doesn't that make your children "illegitimate"?


I have always had an issue with the children part too.  



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If the church annuls your marriage, doesn't that make your children "illegitimate"?


I have always had an issue with the children part too.  


No, it doesn't make the children illegitimate. 



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If the church annuls your marriage, doesn't that make your children "illegitimate"?


I have always had an issue with the children part too.  


No, it doesn't make the children illegitimate. 


Why not? Either the marriage counts as a real, legitimate marriage, or it doesn't. 



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If the church annuls your marriage, doesn't that make your children "illegitimate"?


I have always had an issue with the children part too.  


No, it doesn't make the children illegitimate. 


Legitamacy is a legal concept - not a religious one.  A church's annulment is not a legal annulment. 



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I thought the same thing too, that if you got your catholic marriage annulled, that your kids would be seen by the church as being illegitimate.

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"Does annulment make our
children illegitimate?"

No — children of a marriage that's determined to be invalid by a Catholic annulment, are still legitimate. (Code of Canon Law, canon 1137)

When a couple marries, they assume the marriage is valid and was entered into in good faith. Children conceived under this assumption of a valid marriage, are considered to be legitimate.

This fact does not change even if the marriage is later found to be not valid.

In the United States, Catholic annulment does not affect any state civil laws. It is unrelated to civil concerns such as illegitimacy, child custody, alimony, visitation rights, or division of property.



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Bonny22Pye wrote:
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Bonny22Pye wrote:

My BIL's wedding is already shaping up to be epic. Future Bridezilla is panicking because she has to have the Catholic church annul her first wedding before she can marry my BIL who is devout Catholic. Bridezilla is former Mormon. She also wants the dogs in the wedding and no Catholic church will allow that.


I'm surprised the devout Catholic BIL didn't mention it earlier. Surely he knows that she has to have the first marriage annulled.

How do they annul marriages, anyway?

"Presto Chango, your first marriage now doesn't count?" If it's a legal marriage, it counts.


 The church won't let her get married in the church unless they can prove the first marriage was set up to fail and therefore they should have never been allowed to get married.  In her case, they are hoping that because she got married so young and he was verbally abusive they get the annulment.


Well. if you use that criteria, you can probably annul ANY failed marriage.

"This marriage was destined to fail because spouse was too young, too stupid to know what they were getting into, too old, too lazy, too controlling, too flirtatious, too verbally abusive, has too much of a wandering eye, too uninvolved, too suspicious, etc."

What's the point?

It's still a legal marriage and you can't just act like it never happened, and doesn't count.


 Its not about the civil legality.  Its about if the church would have allowed the first marriage to happen in the first place.  



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Anyway...I doubt they will get the annulment and I bet they will get a civil wedding and my BIL will go to confession freaking out about the whole thing. Drama city.

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Anyway...I doubt they will get the annulment and I bet they will get a civil wedding and my BIL will go to confession freaking out about the whole thing. Drama city.


 Have it outside so the doggies can come...

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Dogs don't belong at a wedding.

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Bonny22Pye wrote:

My BIL's wedding is already shaping up to be epic. Future Bridezilla is panicking because she has to have the Catholic church annul her first wedding before she can marry my BIL who is devout Catholic. Bridezilla is former Mormon. She also wants the dogs in the wedding and no Catholic church will allow that.


I'm surprised the devout Catholic BIL didn't mention it earlier. Surely he knows that she has to have the first marriage annulled.

How do they annul marriages, anyway?

"Presto Chango, your first marriage now doesn't count?" If it's a legal marriage, it counts.


 Yeah i dont understand the annulment thing.  Maybe if you were only married as long as Kim Kardashian and whathisname.


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huskerbb wrote:

Dogs don't belong at a wedding.


 If the bride wants it, and the groom is okay with it, hold the wedding OUTSIDE, not in a Catholic Church.

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I think we need a follow up letter in this one too. flan you have now been assigned the chore of getting follow up letters.

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I think we need a follow up letter in this one too. flan you have now been assigned the chore of getting follow up letters.


 Setting me up for failure AGAIN, I see...

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LOL You need to write Carolyn and ask her for follow ups!

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