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Our Fragile, Forlorn College 

 

 

In an era of PC and social isolation, young adults don't know the real world

 

My English literature professor came to dinner at our house last week. I took his class a mere 38 years ago, when I was a college sophomore. We’ve remained friends.

He told me a story. “I went to a dinner with some students last month. I asked one young woman what her parents did. Innocent question, right? Wrong.”

He continued: “That night, I got an email from her. She said it was insensitive of me to ask about her parents, because her father wasn’t part of her life anymore and reminding her of him just retriggered her pain. She said I should have known better than to ask. I’d never met her before in my life.”

“That’s the last time I go to dinner with students,” he said, looking aggrieved. “It’s just not worth it.”

What’s wrong with this story? Everything.

College-educated young people may (or may not) be book-smart, but when it comes to human relations, many of them are dumber than rocks. They’ve created a world in which you can barely speak because anything you say is going to be deemed offensive by somebody.

These poor darlings are so touchy and easily offended that you wonder how they’ll do when they’re no longer living under Mommy and Daddy’s roof. Or in this case, Mommy’s.

But it’s not just the students. The universities themselves are encouraging touchiness and oversensitivity, triggered in part by the helicoptering parenting mentality of the past decade or so.

According to a recent report, Penn State is running “a massive campaign that encourages students not only to watch what they say, lest they offend someone, but also to report any and all biased statements to campus officials.” That’s typical of college campuses today.

How do you make a living in an abrasive world if you think that no one has the right to offend you? How do you expect to survive if you can’t conduct an adult conversation? How do you expect to have a relationship or, God forbid, a marriage, if you’ve got 30,000 rules about what people can or cannot say?

It’s beyond political correctness, which was bad enough. It’s humorlessness. It’s a willingness not just to take offense but to seek it out, even if it doesn't exist.

 
 
 
 
 
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If the student in question had any guts, she would have said, “Look, Professor. I’m offended when people ask about my parents.” Then she would have explained why.

Actually, if she’d had any manners, she could have said, “Look, Professor. My Dad isn’t part of the picture. It’s hard for me to talk about home.” Or she could have given a diplomatic reply and nudged the conversation in a more comfortable direction.

But no. She had to wait until she could display the “courage of the keyboard” — and write a hurtful email to a perfectly nice professor who was simply displaying a friendly interest in other people.

The problem is that this story isn’t an isolated incident. It’s the story of a generation. Grow up with a screen in your face, you rarely learn how to look people in the eye. Buy into a youth culture devoid of free speech, you create a world where everything’s offensive.

My four kids are taking their cues from a culture that encourages taking affront and finding offense even where it doesn’t exist. Do I really want to spend a million bucks on tuition so that they can be influenced so negatively?

I’m going to quote from a book called “A Day At A Time in Al-Anon," a life manual for people who have realproblems — not just rules for what people can and cannot say when they’re just being friendly. There’s a line in that book about “the lovely adventure of shrugging off hurts.”

Your father’s not in your life? OK. That’s a problem. Deal with it. Step into the nearest children’s hospital, or bankruptcy court, or shelter for battered women, and behold actual problems.

When I visited my college last fall, there were signs posted by the dining hall: “The way you look at me makes me uncomfortable.”

Oh my goodness. You don’t even know me. Hey, your sign makes me uncomfortable!

You can't have all of life on your own terms. No wonder young people feel so isolated today. They’ve imprisoned themselves because they don’t know how to connect. Solitary confinement is a crummy life sentence. Especially when it’s self-imposed.

Twelve-time national bestseller Michael Levin 

 

http://www.lifezette.com/momzette/our-fragile-forlorn-college-kids/



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It's ridiculous how coddled kids are now.

I thought college was where you expanded your horizons. A place to grow and learn other ways of doing things. Learn about other lives and realities.

No. All the overprotective parents are not doing their kids any favors by teaching them they are the end all, be all of the world.

We have crippled our kids.

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My kids certainly aren't crippled.

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I watch it here in the office. Mommy & Daddy always defending young Jimmy. Umm, maybe you should let him pay his own bills.

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It's ridiculous how coddled kids are now.

I thought college was where you expanded your horizons. A place to grow and learn other ways of doing things. Learn about other lives and realities.

No. All the overprotective parents are not doing their kids any favors by teaching them they are the end all, be all of the world.

We have crippled our kids.


 I agree.

DS will not be one of those crippled kids.



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I'm not capable of pussy footing. My kids get told how it is all the time - they should not have this issue in college.

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Meh.

I'm sure this is true, for some college kids.

I can't swear to it. I've never met any like that.

We didn't raise any like that.

And, not all colleges are run like that.

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Poor college kids. They are such..... victims. (eye roll emoticon)

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I'm not capable of pussy footing. My kids get told how it is all the time - they should not have this issue in college.


 I'm not either.



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The whiner in the OP would've died had she met one of my professors. First day of class, that professor gave his class policy: "If you're sick, stay home. I don't want your germs. If you miss a class, it is your responsibility to get the notes. You must sign in and we do compare signatures from day to day so if you're stupid enough to have someone sign for you, you better have them sign for you every day. If you're immature enough to send your mommy or daddy to fight your battles, I will drop you from my class because I do not teach children. I teach adults. This is university. If you don't like this policy, the door is that way."

I got along real well with that professor. He was an azz but a great professor. He didn't put up with whining at all.

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I'm not capable of pussy footing. My kids get told how it is all the time - they should not have this issue in college.


 Unless they don't get to be a flower girl.  



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I'm not capable of pussy footing. My kids get told how it is all the time - they should not have this issue in college.


 Unless they don't get to be a flower girl.  


They get told that, too.  That their aunt did not behave right and it was not a nice thing to do.  I don't cover for *******s. 



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husker does...lol

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I'm not capable of pussy footing. My kids get told how it is all the time - they should not have this issue in college.


 Unless they don't get to be a flower girl.  


They get told that, too.  That their aunt did not behave right and it was not a nice thing to do.  I don't cover for *******s. 


 And that is pussy footing.  



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So telling it like it is is pussy footing? That's rich...

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So telling it like it is is pussy footing? That's rich...


 Shes not telling it like it is.  she's protecting VSS from any little disappointment.



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Not how I see it but you always have your own strange perspective.

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What takes more courage? To face someone who has wronged yiu with head held high? Or sulk and pout because you didn't get your way?

Let's say a couple is divorced due to his cheating. Daughter wants both parents at the wedding, but dad, of course, is bringing his new woman.

Should mom boycott the event? Or find the best dress she can and March down the aisle like she owns the place?

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I'd go to my daughters wedding because SHE did nothing wrong. Now if my SIL did what that SIL did I'd have no problem skipping the wedding because she was a bitch to my daughter. Just because you think family is allowed to walk all over your kids doesn't make you brave no matter what you'd like to think.



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So telling it like it is is pussy footing? That's rich...


 Shes not telling it like it is.  she's protecting VSS from any little disappointment.


 Give it a REST, ffs.

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I'd go to my daughters wedding because SHE did nothing wrong. Now if my SIL did what that SIL did I'd have no problem skipping the wedding because she was a bitch to my daughter. Just because you think family is allowed to walk all over your kids doesn't make you brave no matter what you'd like to think.



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 What difference does it make whose wedding it is?  What did the brother do wrong here?  Yet you'd skip his wedding?

 

 



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He didn't stick up for his niece. I wouldn't punish my daughter because her father was an azz but I would punish the SIL and brother for being azzes. Not very hard to understand...lol

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Just because you refuse to stand up to your family doesn't make you right.

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Just because you refuse to stand up to your family doesn't make you right.


 It's all part and parcel of what this article is talking about. Plus you can stand up to someone without boycotting a major family event.

 



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So telling it like it is is pussy footing? That's rich...


 Shes not telling it like it is.  she's protecting VSS from any little disappointment.


Ah, no.  She's already been disappointed.  But don't worry, I'd also tell her we weren't going to the wedding because we don't condone or support rude behavior, even from family.   



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So telling it like it is is pussy footing? That's rich...


 Shes not telling it like it is.  she's protecting VSS from any little disappointment.


Ah, no.  She's already been disappointed.  But don't worry, I'd also tell her we weren't going to the wedding because we don't condone or support rude behavior, even from family.   


 Yeah.  Treat her exactly like the kids in this article.  That's what I said.



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Someone posted a picture of their new baby room decor recently. While everyone was offering congrats, I apparently went too far when I said "I wouldnt have chosen black as a color, but to each their own. Congrats on the baby!"

whoa boy was that a big mistake. I got dogpiled for my negativity about the color put on the walls of a baby room. I had to delete the comment.

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So telling it like it is is pussy footing? That's rich...


 Shes not telling it like it is.  she's protecting VSS from any little disappointment.


Ah, no.  She's already been disappointed.  But don't worry, I'd also tell her we weren't going to the wedding because we don't condone or support rude behavior, even from family.   


 Yeah.  Treat her exactly like the kids in this article.  That's what I said.


You are incapable of logic. 



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Someone posted a picture of their new baby room decor recently. While everyone was offering congrats, I apparently went too far when I said "I wouldnt have chosen black as a color, but to each their own. Congrats on the baby!"

whoa boy was that a big mistake. I got dogpiled for my negativity about the color put on the walls of a baby room. I had to delete the comment.


 Delete?????  Never!!!!!!



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So telling it like it is is pussy footing? That's rich...


 Shes not telling it like it is.  she's protecting VSS from any little disappointment.


Ah, no.  She's already been disappointed.  But don't worry, I'd also tell her we weren't going to the wedding because we don't condone or support rude behavior, even from family.   


 Yeah.  Treat her exactly like the kids in this article.  That's what I said.


You are incapable of logic. 


 Quite the contrary.  You are the one basing a decison on feelings rather than logic.



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Someone posted a picture of their new baby room decor recently. While everyone was offering congrats, I apparently went too far when I said "I wouldnt have chosen black as a color, but to each their own. Congrats on the baby!"

whoa boy was that a big mistake. I got dogpiled for my negativity about the color put on the walls of a baby room. I had to delete the comment.


 Black for a baby's room? Was mom's name Rosemary?



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I'm with you, Cheerios. Black is a horrible color for a baby's room.

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I mean, I guess I could see it as a background to even out a bright palette.

I don't know. I'd have to see it.



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I mean, I guess I could see it as a background to even out a bright palette.

I don't know. I'd have to see it.


 Maybe like a space theme with some bright stars and planets--but seriously, who paints any room black?



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LOLLLLLLLLL in just a few short posts this thread went from college kids being coddled to black paint in the baby room, then too the wedding dis and back to black paint. Congrats! This has got to be a record in Geek land, # thread wise.

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So telling it like it is is pussy footing? That's rich...


 Shes not telling it like it is.  she's protecting VSS from any little disappointment.


Ah, no.  She's already been disappointed.  But don't worry, I'd also tell her we weren't going to the wedding because we don't condone or support rude behavior, even from family.   


 Yeah.  Treat her exactly like the kids in this article.  That's what I said.


You are incapable of logic. 


 Quite the contrary.  You are the one basing a decison on feelings rather than logic.


 It's never logical to let people treat you badly and go on like nothing happened.



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The only way I could see a black wall is maybe with a sports theme room. Like Georgia is black and red.

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It isn't awful. It's kind of pretty.

But it looks like it's for a teen or a bathroom.

 



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It isn't awful. It's kind of pretty.

But it looks like it's for a teen or a bathroom.

 


 That's actually kind of pretty, but an accent color would be nice.  But those are not solid black walls, either. 



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No. I didn't see one with all four walls black.

I did see accent walls. But they had some kind of design on them.

Trees, flowers, animals. That kind of thing.

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Oh no, it was only one wall. Very contemporary but not what I would have chosen.

 

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I don't hate it. It's just really boring.

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Oh no, it was only one wall. Very contemporary but not what I would have chosen.

 

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 Yeah..... it needs some color.



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I see a commonality to this thread..

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we don't disrespect others and we don't tolerate disrespect FROM others, family or not


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If anyone here really had to bite the bullet here, they would choke on it.

Logic be damned.



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it is a real shame that college kids feel so isolated and " offended "--we sold a vehicle to a couple of sisters yesterday from the pacific NW and went out to speak with them while they were waiting on our finance department--one of them ( the one purchasing the car ) was a grad student at a local university and the other owned her own business here in town--they were both mid to late twenties--both rather shy and withdrawn( probably, like most of humanity, not thrilled at being in a car dealership )--thanked them for their business and engaged them with some personal questions about what they were doing in life and how things were going--asked one of them about her earrings as they were unusual and beautiful and told her so then remarked on the business owner's tatoo--a raptor, in blue and black on her shoulder--was it to honor someone?--they both lit-up like lanterns, relaxed, and spoke sincerely and candidly about themselves--and they didn't know me from adam--two interesting women from a very different part of the country than here under the lone star and was a pleasure speaking with them and getting to know them a little--they sure as hell didn't seem offended at all, rather quite the opposite--genuinely friendly and outgoing, just a bit uncomfortable in their present surroundings

we need not to worry about giving offense so much and stick to genuine concern for one another--offer kindness and understanding--life is much more pleasant to live

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it is a real shame that college kids feel so isolated and " offended "--we sold a vehicle to a couple of sisters yesterday from the pacific NW and went out to speak with them while they were waiting on our finance department--one of them ( the one purchasing the car ) was a grad student at a local university and the other owned her own business here in town--they were both mid to late twenties--both rather shy and withdrawn( probably, like most of humanity, not thrilled at being in a car dealership )--thanked them for their business and engaged them with some personal questions about what they were doing in life and how things were going--asked one of them about her earrings as they were unusual and beautiful and told her so then remarked on the business owner's tatoo--a raptor, in blue and black on her shoulder--was it to honor someone?--they both lit-up like lanterns, relaxed, and spoke sincerely and candidly about themselves--and they didn't know me from adam--two interesting women from a very different part of the country than here under the lone star and was a pleasure speaking with them and getting to know them a little--they sure as hell didn't seem offended at all, rather quite the opposite--genuinely friendly and outgoing, just a bit uncomfortable in their present surroundings

we need not to worry about giving offense so much and stick to genuine concern for one another--offer kindness and understanding--life is much more pleasant to live


 burns, the shame is, people believe this bull****.

We've put 3 kids through college, in varying degrees.

Conor went for 2 years, but didn't finish.

Meredith is a graduate.

Paul is in his Junior year.

And, we have yet to meet any of their friends, who acted the way described in the original post.

God knows, none of ours were raised, or acted, that way.

Who dreams up this stuff?confuse

And why are some people, so willing to believe it?furious



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just Czech wrote:

If anyone here really had to bite the bullet here, they would choke on it.

Logic be damned.



-- Edited by just Czech on Friday 22nd of January 2016 09:24:55 PM


 "Here?" On the board?

I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding, Czech.

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FWM,

You raise some excellent points.

DS1 has a Masters. DS2 did not go to college.

I know several of their friends...Not a one remotely resembles any "person" in the OP.

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