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Four bankruptcies and he's still a billionaire.

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Obama is all about Obama. I have never seen anyone more self serving than him.

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The same thing could easily be said about Trump.

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Yes but he believes in capitalism which is good for all of us.

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Rosie O'Donald, Kenya West, and Whoopi Goldberg will all leave America if Trump is elected. Now THAT is incentive enough for me.

The bankruptcies don't bother me, they were business that he restructured and all eventually became successful. I don't think his personal finances were ever at risk if I remember right.

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Rosie O'Donald, Kenya West, and Whoopi Goldberg will all leave America if Trump is elected. Now THAT is incentive enough for me.

The bankruptcies don't bother me, they were business that he restructured and all eventually became successful. I don't think his personal finances were ever at risk if I remember right.


 OH, yeah, the "i am gonna move to Canada" threat.  evileye  Good riddance if they leave, lol.

 

  As for Trump, I really would like him to focus on beating the Policies of Dems.  If anything is going to bring him down it is the stupid stuff like going after Megyn Kelly or whatever.  Stop sparring with Cruz.  Tell us what you are going to do and how you are going to right the ship that is about to go over the Obama cliff.

 



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Four bankruptcies and he's still a billionaire.


 I don't think that FOUR bankruptcies = successful businessman.

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Obama is all about Obama. I have never seen anyone more self serving than him.


 Then you need a new pair of glasses.

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just Czech wrote:

Rosie O'Donald, Kenya West, and Whoopi Goldberg will all leave America if Trump is elected. Now THAT is incentive enough for me.

The bankruptcies don't bother me, they were business that he restructured and all eventually became successful. I don't think his personal finances were ever at risk if I remember right.


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Obama is all about Obama. I have never seen anyone more self serving than him.


 Then you need a new pair of glasses.

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 Oh, OK.  Obama has made the Presidency completely about HIM.  And, that is why Trump is on the rise.  People want an answer for utter incompetence and mishandling of his position.



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Four bankruptcies and he's still a billionaire.


 I don't think that FOUR bankruptcies = successful businessman.

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 He brought all those companies out of bankruptcy and they are successful.  Technically, America is bankrupt.  Can we pay off our debt? 



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Four bankruptcies and he's still a billionaire.


 I don't think that FOUR bankruptcies = successful businessman.

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 He brought all those companies out of bankruptcy and they are successful.  Technically, America is bankrupt.  Can we pay off our debt? 


1. Is there anyone who doesn't know that?

2. Nope.

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On at least one bankruptcy, he used his personal funds to bail out the business.

When you graduate college & are already worth, $1.4 million...well, that's something I cannot even fathom. And it's another reason why Trump will never understand the average American, other than pandering to their fears.

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Four bankruptcies and he's still a billionaire.


 I don't think that FOUR bankruptcies = successful businessman.

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 He brought all those companies out of bankruptcy and they are successful.  Technically, America is bankrupt.  Can we pay off our debt? 


1. Is there anyone who doesn't know that?

2. Nope.

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 Then we need someone who understands that and can help turn it around.  Not just another politician who thinks the answer is more and more and more taxes, while continuing to give away people's hard earned money to those that don't work.



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On at least one bankruptcy, he used his personal funds to bail out the business.

When you graduate college & are already worth, $1.4 million...well, that's something I cannot even fathom. And it's another reason why Trump will never understand the average American, other than pandering to their fears.

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 He doesn't have to "understand" us.  He's not Dr. Phil.  He simply needs to reduce the size of govt, reduce onerous govt regulations, bring business back to America and get out of the way and let Americans be Americans.



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So many Repos have run on conservative platforms. Then, they get elected and don't a damn thing and actually fall all over themselves to help Obama's idiot agenda. So, we are DONE with the Establishment liars. Nope. Sorry Jeb, I ain't buying your bullschit.

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flan327 wrote:

On at least one bankruptcy, he used his personal funds to bail out the business.

When you graduate college & are already worth, $1.4 million...well, that's something I cannot even fathom. And it's another reason why Trump will never understand the average American, other than pandering to their fears.

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 He doesn't have to "understand" us.  He's not Dr. Phil.  He simply needs to reduce the size of govt, reduce onerous govt regulations, bring business back to America and get out of the way and let Americans be Americans.


 But what will he do for his next 3 1/2 years in office?

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flan327 wrote:
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flan327 wrote:

On at least one bankruptcy, he used his personal funds to bail out the business.

When you graduate college & are already worth, $1.4 million...well, that's something I cannot even fathom. And it's another reason why Trump will never understand the average American, other than pandering to their fears.

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 He doesn't have to "understand" us.  He's not Dr. Phil.  He simply needs to reduce the size of govt, reduce onerous govt regulations, bring business back to America and get out of the way and let Americans be Americans.


 But what will he do for his next 3 1/2 years in office?

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Hillary Clinton has a propensity to change her mind on big issues. She has reversed her positions on gay marriage, immigration, gun control, the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact, mass incarceration and the Iraq War, and some believe her recent stand on the Keystone XL pipeline constitutes a flip, too.
When CNN moderator Anderson Cooper called Clinton on her flip-floppery in Tuesday night’s presidential debate (“Will you say anything to get elected?” he asked), she defended her policy somersaults as expressions of political thoughtfulness rather than weakness.
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“Well, actually, I have been very consistent,” Clinton said, arguing her unyielding fealty to “the same values and principles” over her entire life. “But like most human beings—including those of us who run for office—I do absorb new information. I do look at what’s happening in the world.” It is the information that changes, she led her questioner to understand, and when that new information surfaces, she folds it into her existing “values and principles.”
Clinton’s response, which portrayed changed views as consistency, mirrored the one she gave Chuck Todd two weeks ago on Meet the Press. Todd asked Clinton whether her positions change “out of political expediency.” She answered:
I don’t think it reflects how people who are thoughtful actually conduct their lives. I mean, if we don’t learn, if we don’t, you know, make decisions based on the best information we have available, well, you know, that’s regrettable. And what I’ve always tried to do is to say, “OK, what is the best decision that I can think about making?”
Everybody agrees that changing facts can justify a change in one’s view. But Clinton’s insistence that learning about “new” or “better” information propels her reassessments prompts this question: What was the new information?
To my knowledge, no new “information” about gay marriage emerged from the day she endorsed civil unions for same-sex couples to the day she demanded the right to same-sex marriage. The immigration, gun control and mass-incarceration issues have been similarly unrippled by shocking new findings. Likewise, the information required to make a stand against the Iraq War was not hidden. Other senators found it and took that position! Perhaps the anti-war information escaped Clinton’s notice—in which case, bad on her—or perhaps she viewed it and decided not to act on it—in which case, double-bad on her. And who among us had a better vantage from which to assemble an encyclopedic view on the Trans-Pacific Partnership than Clinton? She praised it endlessly while secretary of state, but pulled a moonshiner’s turn last week to skedaddle away from it.
If Clinton lived in Gobles, Michigan, had no library card and no Internet connection, we could accept her new-information excuse. But for the past 25 years, Clinton has had some of the best researchers at her disposal—a private staff, a campaign staff, the wizards at the State Department staff, a senatorial staff, the busy beavers from the Congressional Research Service and the White House staff. And, in fact, every indication and story we know about Hillary Clinton’s policy work belabors just how much she studies and learns. So if new or better information has been the impetus for her policy shifts, she must concede that she has a fat history of taking the wrong position in the early going and then requiring a re-do. The constant need for re-dos appears to indicate that she’d make a lousy surgeon and a bad 3 a.m. president.
Is Clinton lazy? Inattentive? Cognitively impaired? Of course not. Nor does she really view the major issues as uncharted continents that require additional exploring. She knows what she thinks about most things, and what she thinks is heavily guided by what the “new information” contained in polls and political pressure tell her to think. In this regard, she’s more like other politicians than unlike them. Politics demands malleable mathematics from its practitioners.
During President Bill Clinton’s administration, political flexibility was associated with triangulation—that is, taking a position that was above right or left and allowed Clinton to cherry-pick from his foes’ ideas and incorporate them into his own. Instead of triangulating, Hillary Clinton shapeshifts, guided less by a grand ideology and more by grand ambition. What good is consistency if it doesn’t bring you to power?
Every politician flip-flops. (Every politician except Bernie Sanders, that is.) But Clinton flip-flops so frequently that course changes have become her signature move. As long as there is new or better information to consult—and when isn’t there?—none of Clinton’s positions can be considered fixed or even rooted. Reversing the Beats, who preached “First Thought, Best Thought,” Clinton has built a campaign on the mantra “Last Thought, Best Thought.” No slave to ideology—even her own progressive ideology—she promises to make every day of her presidency a surprise. Unless, of course, new information intrudes.
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Trump just vowed to end Common Core.

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At last!

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The new president will likely nominate three new supreme court judges. It is disturbing to me that his sister is a federal court judge and pro abortion, even partial birth abortion, and Trump has promised her a spot somewhere if he wins.

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The new president will likely nominate three new supreme court judges. It is disturbing to me that his sister is a federal court judge and pro abortion, even partial birth abortion, and Trump has promised her a spot somewhere if he wins.


Can you provide a link that states his exact words of promise to his sister?

She would have to be approved by the Senate as well. 



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just Czech wrote:

Rosie O'Donald, Kenya West, and Whoopi Goldberg will all leave America if Trump is elected. Now THAT is incentive enough for me.

The bankruptcies don't bother me, they were business that he restructured and all eventually became successful. I don't think his personal finances were ever at risk if I remember right.


 OH, yeah, the "i am gonna move to Canada" threat.  evileye  Good riddance if they leave, lol.

 

  As for Trump, I really would like him to focus on beating the Policies of Dems.  If anything is going to bring him down it is the stupid stuff like going after Megyn Kelly or whatever.  Stop sparring with Cruz.  Tell us what you are going to do and how you are going to right the ship that is about to go over the Obama cliff.

 


I can't stand Megyn Kelly. She makes the panel look stupid by trying to force the other candidates to challenge Trump during debates. I consider her insulting. She needs to go, IMHO. 



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Well, I like Megyn Kelly. And, she isn't the one making policies that are pushing this country off the cliff so attacking her is just stupid. And, he sounds like an childish 12 yr old. I will tell him what i tell my kids, sorry you don't have to "like" everyone and not everyone has to like you. And, in real life we all work with people we may or may not like. On one hand he says he gets along with everyone and that everyone likes him and he likes everyone, blah, blah.
So, sorry he doesnt' get to pick the moderator. But, he has plenty of money. He can choose to stay home. Or, he can hire his own moderators and hold his own debates or any number of things.

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Trump is refusing to participate in the debate if they don't remove Megyn Kelly. He's even refusing to speak to Roger Ales. He says he'll only speak to Richard Murdock.

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Trump just vowed to end Common Core.
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That, right there, would almost be enough to make me want to vote for him by itself. Almost.

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I guess it's pretty sad but I actually understand common core. I think it's supremely stupid but I understand it.

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I understand it too, more or less. It's just that it doesn't make any sense to "simplify" something by adding more steps to it and making it more complicated.

It needs to go before it confuses the kids.

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I understand it too, more or less. It's just that it doesn't make any sense to "simplify" something by adding more steps to it and making it more complicated.

It needs to go before it confuses the kids.


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Trump is refusing to participate in the debate if they don't remove Megyn Kelly. He's even refusing to speak to Roger Ales. He says he'll only speak to Richard Murdock.


 So he's throwing a temper tantrum?

I love it.

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Pretty much, lol.


 So what happens if (shudders) he becomes POTUS & doesn't like certain world leaders?

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Pretty much, lol.


 So what happens if (shudders) he becomes POTUS & doesn't like certain world leaders?

no

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 I don't know.  Would that be like Obama removing the bust of Churchill and sending it back to Britian, giving the Queen an ipod or making Netanyahut come in through the servic entrance?  evileye



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Well, I like Megyn Kelly. And, she isn't the one making policies that are pushing this country off the cliff so attacking her is just stupid. And, he sounds like an childish 12 yr old. I will tell him what i tell my kids, sorry you don't have to "like" everyone and not everyone has to like you. And, in real life we all work with people we may or may not like. On one hand he says he gets along with everyone and that everyone likes him and he likes everyone, blah, blah.
So, sorry he doesnt' get to pick the moderator. But, he has plenty of money. He can choose to stay home. Or, he can hire his own moderators and hold his own debates or any number of things.


 The moderator of a debate should be neutral.  They should not have an obvious ax to grind.



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Pretty much, lol.


 So what happens if (shudders) he becomes POTUS & doesn't like certain world leaders?

no

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 I don't know.  Would that be like Obama removing the bust of Churchill and sending it back to Britian, giving the Queen an ipod or making Netanyahut come in through the servic entrance?  evileye


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Well, I like Megyn Kelly. And, she isn't the one making policies that are pushing this country off the cliff so attacking her is just stupid. And, he sounds like an childish 12 yr old. I will tell him what i tell my kids, sorry you don't have to "like" everyone and not everyone has to like you. And, in real life we all work with people we may or may not like. On one hand he says he gets along with everyone and that everyone likes him and he likes everyone, blah, blah.
So, sorry he doesnt' get to pick the moderator. But, he has plenty of money. He can choose to stay home. Or, he can hire his own moderators and hold his own debates or any number of things.


 The moderator of a debate should be neutral.  They should not have an obvious ax to grind.


   I agree but he doesn't get to dictate all the terms.  Here is a platform for him to promote himself and his ideas.  Sorry but some moderators aren't people you like.  Too bad.  That's life.  On one hand, he is saying how he gets along with everyone, blah, blah.  And, then on the other he is acting pretty whiny about Megyn Kelly.  



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Well, I like Megyn Kelly. And, she isn't the one making policies that are pushing this country off the cliff so attacking her is just stupid. And, he sounds like an childish 12 yr old. I will tell him what i tell my kids, sorry you don't have to "like" everyone and not everyone has to like you. And, in real life we all work with people we may or may not like. On one hand he says he gets along with everyone and that everyone likes him and he likes everyone, blah, blah.
So, sorry he doesnt' get to pick the moderator. But, he has plenty of money. He can choose to stay home. Or, he can hire his own moderators and hold his own debates or any number of things.


 The moderator of a debate should be neutral.  They should not have an obvious ax to grind.


   I agree but he doesn't get to dictate all the terms.  Here is a platform for him to promote himself and his ideas.  Sorry but some moderators aren't people you like.  Too bad.  That's life.  On one hand, he is saying how he gets along with everyone, blah, blah.  And, then on the other he is acting pretty whiny about Megyn Kelly.  


 They are participating in a debate.  No, he shouldn't get to dictate who the moderator will be, but I can't fault him for refusing to take part with an overly biased - out to get him - moderator, either.



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I don't see Megyn Kelly as "out to get him". I think he is going overboard on that nonsense.

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I don't see Megyn Kelly as "out to get him". I think he is going overboard on that nonsense.


 Oh, well.  There is no denying she hates him and is biased against him.  She shouldn't even be considered as moderator.



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I don't even see that she "hates" him. He sounds like a liberal with all this "hate" nonsense. She is allowed to ask questions. He doesn't have to answer them.

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I don't even see that she "hates" him. He sounds like a liberal with all this "hate" nonsense. She is allowed to ask questions. He doesn't have to answer them.


 REALLY???  LOL!



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Pretty much, lol.


 So what happens if (shudders) he becomes POTUS & doesn't like certain world leaders?

no

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 I don't know.  Would that be like Obama removing the bust of Churchill and sending it back to Britian, giving the Queen an ipod or making Netanyahut come in through the servic entrance?  evileye


 LOL!


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Of course, he hates her, too.


 I had NO idea...evileye

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I don't even see that she "hates" him. He sounds like a liberal with all this "hate" nonsense. She is allowed to ask questions. He doesn't have to answer them.


 REALLY???  LOL!


 No.  I see her as a woman just trying to do her job.  There is no "hate" in that equation.  If he wants to take it as "hate", then i think he is the one with the problem.  I mean, grow up.  But, I like Trump.  And, you don't always get to pick your champions.  I think he will be good for the economy.  



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I don't even see that she "hates" him. He sounds like a liberal with all this "hate" nonsense. She is allowed to ask questions. He doesn't have to answer them.


 REALLY???  LOL!


 No.  I see her as a woman just trying to do her job.  There is no "hate" in that equation.  If he wants to take it as "hate", then i think he is the one with the problem.  I mean, grow up.  But, I like Trump.  And, you don't always get to pick your champions.  I think he will be good for the economy.  


 She does not go after the other candidates like she does him.  To even try to deny that is ludicrous.  Even she doesn't deny disliking him, so you think you know better?



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Yes. The front runner will take more heat. So what.?

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

I don't even see that she "hates" him. He sounds like a liberal with all this "hate" nonsense. She is allowed to ask questions. He doesn't have to answer them.


 REALLY???  LOL!


 No.  I see her as a woman just trying to do her job.  There is no "hate" in that equation.  If he wants to take it as "hate", then i think he is the one with the problem.  I mean, grow up.  But, I like Trump.  And, you don't always get to pick your champions.  I think he will be good for the economy.  


 I don't see her as "hating" him.  If she doesn't like him that's his own fault.  He's gone after her time and again.  Why would anyone like someone that tried to get them in trouble.  Is she fair?  Who cares.  If he can't deal with her questions then he shouldn't run for president.  Life is only going to get harder from here on out.  What happens when something really difficult comes along?  Is he going to pout?  I agree with LGS here.  You don't always get to pick who you work with or have to deal with.  I agree with LGS when she says he's acting like a petulant child.  Grow up.  Do the debate.  Everyone who sings his praises says he's so great and smart.  If that's true he should be able to handle Kelly.  He's mad because FOX news has always done what he wanted and now they won't.  He can't control them and that's what this is about.  Kelly is the ONLY FOX person who doesn't fall at his feet and blow him on command.  He's been on FOX a total of 132 times.  Way more than any other candidate.  And now he's saying that it's not just Kelly that is the reason that he's not going on.  He says that FOX is using his celebrity status to sell commercials and he's not going to let them make money off him anymore.  He's a trip.



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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

I don't even see that she "hates" him. He sounds like a liberal with all this "hate" nonsense. She is allowed to ask questions. He doesn't have to answer them.


 REALLY???  LOL!


 No.  I see her as a woman just trying to do her job.  There is no "hate" in that equation.  If he wants to take it as "hate", then i think he is the one with the problem.  I mean, grow up.  But, I like Trump.  And, you don't always get to pick your champions.  I think he will be good for the economy.  


 I don't see her as "hating" him.  If she doesn't like him that's his own fault.  He's gone after her time and again.  Why would anyone like someone that tried to get them in trouble.  Is she fair?  Who cares.  If he can't deal with her questions then he shouldn't run for president.  Life is only going to get harder from here on out.  What happens when something really difficult comes along?  Is he going to pout?  I agree with LGS here.  You don't always get to pick who you work with or have to deal with.  I agree with LGS when she says he's acting like a petulant child.  Grow up.  Do the debate.  Everyone who sings his praises says he's so great and smart.  If that's true he should be able to handle Kelly.  He's mad because FOX news has always done what he wanted and now they won't.  He can't control them and that's what this is about.  Kelly is the ONLY FOX person who doesn't fall at his feet and blow him on command.  He's been on FOX a total of 132 times.  Way more than any other candidate.  And now he's saying that it's not just Kelly that is the reason that he's not going on.  He says that FOX is using his celebrity status to sell commercials and he's not going to let them make money off him anymore.  He's a trip.


 EXACTLY! It shows his true colors.

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