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SHE DIVORCED ME BECAUSE I LEFT DISHES BY THE SINK

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It seems so unreasonable when you put it that way: My wife left me because sometimes I leave dishes by the sink.

It makes her seem ridiculous; and makes me seem like a victim of unfair expectations.

We like to point fingers at other things to explain why something went wrong, like when Biff Tannen crashed George McFly’s car and spilled beer on his clothes, but it was all George’s fault for not telling him the car had a blind spot.

This bad thing happened because of this, that, and the other thing. Not because of anything I did!

Sometimes I leave used drinking glasses by the kitchen sink, just inches away from the dishwasher.

It isn’t a big deal to me now. It wasn’t a big deal to me when I was married. But it WAS a big deal to her.

Every time she’d walk into the kitchen and find a drinking glass by the sink, she moved incrementally closer to moving out and ending our marriage. I just didn’t know it yet. But even if I had, I fear I wouldn’t have worked as hard to change my behavior as I would have stubbornly tried to get her to see things my way.

The idiom “to cut off your nose to spite your face” was created for such occasions.

Men Are Not Children, Even Though We Behave Like Them

Feeling respected by others is important to men.

Feeling respected by one’s wife is essential to living a purposeful and meaningful life. Maybe I thought my wife should respect me simply because I exchanged vows with her. It wouldn’t be the first time I acted entitled. One thing I know for sure is that I never connected putting a dish in the dishwasher with earning my wife’s respect.

Yesterday I responded to a comment by @insanitybytes22, in which she suggested things wives and mothers can do to help men as an olive branch instead of blaming men for every marital breakdown. I appreciated her saying so.

But I remember my wife often saying how exhausting it was for her to have to tell me what to do all the time. It’s why the sexiest thing a man can say to his partner is “I got this,” and then take care of whatever needs taken care of.

I always reasoned: “If you just tell me what you want me to do, I’ll gladly do it.”

But she didn’t want to be my mother. She wanted to be my partner, and she wanted me to apply all of my intelligence and learning capabilities to the logistics of managing our lives and household.

She wanted me to figure out all of the things that need done, and devise my own method of task management.

I wish I could remember what seemed so unreasonable to me about that at the time.

Men Can Do Things

Men invented heavy machines that can fly in the air reliably and safely. Men proved the heliocentric model of the solar system, establishing that the Earth orbits the Sun. Men design and build skyscrapers, and take hearts and other human organs from dead people and replace the corresponding failing organs inside of living people, and then those people stay alive afterward. Which is insane.

Men are totally good at stuff.

Men are perfectly capable of doing a lot of these things our wives complain about. What we are not good at is being psychic, or accurately predicting how our wives might feel about any given thing because male and female emotional responses tend to differ pretty dramatically.

‘Hey Matt! Why would you leave a glass by the sink instead of putting it in the dishwasher?’

Several reasons.

  1. I may want to use it again.
  2. I don’t care if a glass is sitting by the sink unless guests are coming over.
  3. I will never care about a glass sitting by the sink. Ever. It’s impossible. It’s like asking me to make myself interested in crocheting, or to enjoy yardwork. I don’t want to crochet things. And it’s hard for me to imagine a scenario in which doing a bunch of work in my yard sounds more appealing than ANY of several thousand less-sucky things which could be done.

There is only ONE reason I will ever stop leaving that glass by the sink. A lesson I learned much too late: Because I love and respect my partner, and it REALLY matters to her. I understand that when I leave that glass there, it hurts her— literally causes her pain—because it feels to her like I just said: “Hey. I don’t respect you or value your thoughts and opinions. Not taking four seconds to put my glass in the dishwasher is more important to me than you are.”

All the sudden, it’s not about something as benign and meaningless as a (quasi) dirty dish.

Now, it’s a meaningful act of love and sacrifice, and really? Four seconds? That doesn’t seem like the kind of thing too big to do for the person who sacrifices daily for me.

I don’t have to understand WHY she cares so much about that stupid glass.

I just have to understand and respect that she DOES. Then caring about her = putting glass in dishwasher.

Caring about her = keeping your laundry off the floor.

Caring about her = thoughtfully not tracking dirt or whatever on the floor she worked hard to clean.

Caring about her = taking care of kid-related things so she can just chill out for a little bit and not worry about anything.

Caring about her = “Hey babe. Is there anything I can do today or pick up on my way home that will make your day better?”

Caring about her = a million little things that say “I love you” more than speaking the words ever can.

Yes, It’s That Simple

The man capable of that behavioral change—even when he doesn’t understand her or agree with her thought-process—can have a great relationship.

Men want to fight for their right to leave that glass there. It might look like this:

“Eat ****, wife,” we think. “I sacrifice a lot for you, and you’re going to get on me about ONE glass by the sink? THAT little bull**** glass that takes a few seconds to put in the dishwasher, which I’ll gladly do when I know I’m done with it, is so important to you that you want to give me crap about it? You want to take an otherwise peaceful evening and have an argument with me, and tell me how I’m getting something wrong and failing you, over this glass? After all of the big things I do to make our life possible—things I never hear a “thank you” for (and don’t ask for)—you’re going to elevate a glass by the sink into a marriage problem? I couldn’t be THAT petty if I tried. And I need to dig my heels in on this one. If you want that glass in the dishwasher, put it in there yourself without telling me about it. Otherwise, I’ll put it away when people are coming over, or when I’m done with it. This is a bull**** fight that feels unfair and I’m not just going to bend over for you.”

The man DOES NOT want to divorce his wife because she’s nagging him about the glass thing which he thinks is totally irrational. He wants her to agree with him that when you put life in perspective, a glass being by the sink when no one is going to see it anyway, and the solution takes four seconds, is just not a big problem. She should recognize how petty and meaningless it is in the grand scheme of life, he thinks, and he keeps waiting for her to agree with him.

She will never agree with him, because it’s not about the glass for her. The glass situation could be ANY situation in which she feels unappreciated and disrespected by her husband.

The wife doesn’t want to divorce her husband because he leaves used drinking glasses by the sink.

She wants to divorce him because she feels like he doesn’t respect or appreciate her, which suggests he doesn’t love her, and she can’t count on him to be her lifelong partner. She can’t trust him. She can’t be safe with him. Thus, she must leave and find a new situation in which she can feel content and secure.

In theory, the man wants to fight this fight, because he thinks he’s right (and I agree with him): The dirty glass is not more important than marital peace.

If his wife thought and felt like him, he’d be right to defend himself. Unfortunately, most guys don’t know that she’s NOT fighting about the glass. She’s fighting for acknowledgment, respect, validation, and his love.

If he KNEW that—if he fully understood this secret she has never explained to him in a way that doesn’t make her sound crazy to him (causing him to dismiss it as an inconsequential passing moment of emo-ness), and that this drinking glass situation and all similar arguments will eventually end his marriage, I believe he WOULD rethink which battles he chose to fight, and would be more apt to take action doing things he understands to make his wife feel loved and safe.

I think a lot of times, wives don’t agree with me. They don’t think it’s possible that their husbands don’t know how their actions make her feel because she has told him, sometimes with tears in her eyes, over and over and over and over again how upset it makes her and how much it hurts.

And this is important: Telling a man something that doesn’t make sense to him once, or a million times, doesn’t make him “know” something. Right or wrong, he would never feel hurt if the same situation were reversed so he doesn’t think his wife SHOULD hurt. It’s like, he doesn’t think she has the right to (and then use it as a weapon against him) because it feels unfair.

“I never get upset with you about things you do that I don’t like!” men reason, as if their wives are INTENTIONALLY choosing to feel hurt and miserable.

When you choose to love someone, it becomes your pleasure to do things that enhance their lives and bring you closer together, rather than a chore.

It’s not: Sonofabitch, I have to do this bull**** thing for my wife again. It’s: I’m grateful for another opportunity to demonstrate to my wife that she comes first and that I can be counted on to be there for her, and needn’t look elsewhere for happiness and fulfillment.

Once someone figures out how to help a man equate the glass situation (which does not, and will never, affect him emotionally) with DEEPLY wounding his wife and making her feel sad, alone, unloved, abandoned, disrespected, afraid, etc. …  Once men really grasp that and accept it as true even though it doesn’t make sense to them?

Everything changes forever.

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If that is the acid test--then whose fault is it, really?

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Or she could be trying to get him to realize it isn't her job to clean up after him. It's HIS job to clean up after himself. Saying that he didn't want to put the glass away unless company was coming over misses the point entirely. Who ends up putting that glass in the dishwasher? Does he go back later and do it? I doubt it. He is expecting his wife to clean up after him and that's ridiculous.

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Or she could be trying to get him to realize it isn't her job to clean up after him. It's HIS job to clean up after himself. Saying that he didn't want to put the glass away unless company was coming over misses the point entirely. Who ends up putting that glass in the dishwasher? Does he go back later and do it? I doubt it. He is expecting his wife to clean up after him and that's ridiculous.


But how is it somehow more difficult to take the glass out of the sink--or off the counter?  



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Or she could be trying to get him to realize it isn't her job to clean up after him. It's HIS job to clean up after himself. Saying that he didn't want to put the glass away unless company was coming over misses the point entirely. Who ends up putting that glass in the dishwasher? Does he go back later and do it? I doubt it. He is expecting his wife to clean up after him and that's ridiculous.


But how is it somehow more difficult to take the glass out of the sink--or off the counter?  


 More difficult for who? I don't understand your question. 

If he uses a glass, he should put it in the dishwasher when he is done with it. Leaving it either in the sink or on the counter is lazy. His wife isn't responsible for cleaning up after a grown man. 



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Or she could be trying to get him to realize it isn't her job to clean up after him. It's HIS job to clean up after himself. Saying that he didn't want to put the glass away unless company was coming over misses the point entirely. Who ends up putting that glass in the dishwasher? Does he go back later and do it? I doubt it. He is expecting his wife to clean up after him and that's ridiculous.


But how is it somehow more difficult to take the glass out of the sink--or off the counter?  


 More difficult for who? I don't understand your question. 

If he uses a glass, he should put it in the dishwasher when he is done with it. Leaving it either in the sink or on the counter is lazy. His wife isn't responsible for cleaning up after a grown man. 


Dishes don't go in the dishwasher until you have enough for a full load.  Depending on what dishes you have, you might not want them arranged in the random fashion they would be if you put them in one by one.

Dishes go in the sink--then when you have enough for a load, the dishwasher.   



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She isn't asking him to put the glass in the sink. She is asking him to stop putting the glass BY the sink and instead put it in the dishwasher. Which is 100% reasonable.

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Wow. No. I don't want a sink full of dishes until I have enough for a load. You put dishes in the dishwasher until you have enough to run it. I wouldn't let dirty dishes just sit in the sink until I had enough to load the dishwasher. That's disgusting. And how do you use the sink in the meantime?! Yuck.

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She isn't asking him to put the glass in the sink. She is asking him to stop putting the glass BY the sink and instead put it in the dishwasher. Which is 100% reasonable.


Maybe--but not an issue for divorce. 



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Wow. No. I don't want a sink full of dishes until I have enough for a load. You put dishes in the dishwasher until you have enough to run it. I wouldn't let dirty dishes just sit in the sink until I had enough to load the dishwasher. That's disgusting. And how do you use the sink in the meantime?! Yuck.


No way.  Then I just have to take half of them out, again, to get them arranged.   



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Mellow Momma wrote:

Or she could be trying to get him to realize it isn't her job to clean up after him. It's HIS job to clean up after himself. Saying that he didn't want to put the glass away unless company was coming over misses the point entirely. Who ends up putting that glass in the dishwasher? Does he go back later and do it? I doubt it. He is expecting his wife to clean up after him and that's ridiculous.


 I'm with you MM but perhaps he isn't expecting her to clean up after him, he is just being dumb in that it isn't important to him.  I think that is the point of the article; while not important to him, this small task was important to the wife and he should respect that.



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Wow. No. I don't want a sink full of dishes until I have enough for a load. You put dishes in the dishwasher until you have enough to run it. I wouldn't let dirty dishes just sit in the sink until I had enough to load the dishwasher. That's disgusting. And how do you use the sink in the meantime?! Yuck.


No way.  Then I just have to take half of them out, again, to get them arranged.   


 Are you that bad at loading your dishwasher? There's a spot for everything in ours. Put dishes in their spots until it is full enough to run. 

How can you use the sink if it is always full of dishes?



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Mellow Momma wrote:

Wow. No. I don't want a sink full of dishes until I have enough for a load. You put dishes in the dishwasher until you have enough to run it. I wouldn't let dirty dishes just sit in the sink until I had enough to load the dishwasher. That's disgusting. And how do you use the sink in the meantime?! Yuck.


 Same here. Just thinking about a sink full of dishes is making me twitchy. They go in the dishwasher. I don't ever have to take them back out to rearrange them either. 



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Or she could be trying to get him to realize it isn't her job to clean up after him. It's HIS job to clean up after himself. Saying that he didn't want to put the glass away unless company was coming over misses the point entirely. Who ends up putting that glass in the dishwasher? Does he go back later and do it? I doubt it. He is expecting his wife to clean up after him and that's ridiculous.


 I'm with you MM but perhaps he isn't expecting her to clean up after him, he is just being dumb in that it isn't important to him.  I think that is the point of the article; while not important to him, this small task was important to the wife and he should respect that.


 Yes. There are lots of little things that are important to one person and not important to the other. If you don't care about them, then you do them anyway because you care about your partner. 



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Wow. No. I don't want a sink full of dishes until I have enough for a load. You put dishes in the dishwasher until you have enough to run it. I wouldn't let dirty dishes just sit in the sink until I had enough to load the dishwasher. That's disgusting. And how do you use the sink in the meantime?! Yuck.


No way.  Then I just have to take half of them out, again, to get them arranged.   


 Are you that bad at loading your dishwasher? There's a spot for everything in ours. Put dishes in their spots until it is full enough to run. 

How can you use the sink if it is always full of dishes?


No way that works.  You don't always have the same exact dishes every week.   Sometimes there is a skillet--which has to go in a certain place--but we don't have a skillet every week.  The big pots need to go on the bottom, but that's where the plates also go--sometimes you have a big pot, sometimes not. 

 

Also, there are usually two halves to the sink. 



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It isnt about the glass in the sink. It is what that represents to Her. It's the straw breaking the camel's back of the 1000 other ways she is pulling his weight while he coasts.

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It isnt about the glass in the sink. It is what that represents to Her. It's the straw breaking the camel's back of the 1000 other ways she is pulling his weight while he coasts.


It works both ways.  I don't like the thick and chunky salsa. For some reason, my wife can't seem to pay attention to that one little detail on the label and more often than not, brings home the thick and chunky.  She knows it irritates me.

 

I wouldn't divorce her over it, though.  That's ridiculous.  



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Yes but are there 1000 other ways she disregards you? No. So yeah we all have quirks. That isnt what this is about.

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Yes but are there 1000 other ways she disregards you? No. So yeah we all have quirks. That isnt what this is about.


What other "1,000" things?  Not even one is mentioned. We don't even know there are another 999.   



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Nevermind husker. You are choosing to be obtuse.

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Yes but are there 1000 other ways she disregards you? No. So yeah we all have quirks. That isnt what this is about.


What other "1,000" things?  Not even one is mentioned. We don't even know there are another 999.   


 If he KNEW that—if he fully understood this secret she has never explained to him in a way that doesn’t make her sound crazy to him (causing him to dismiss it as an inconsequential passing moment of emo-ness), and that this drinking glass situation and all similar arguments will eventually end his marriage, I believe he WOULD rethink which battles he chose to fight, and would be more apt to take action doing things he understands to make his wife feel loved and safe.



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Yes but are there 1000 other ways she disregards you? No. So yeah we all have quirks. That isnt what this is about.


What other "1,000" things?  Not even one is mentioned. We don't even know there are another 999.   


 If he KNEW that—if he fully understood this secret she has never explained to him in a way that doesn’t make her sound crazy to him (causing him to dismiss it as an inconsequential passing moment of emo-ness), and that this drinking glass situation and all similar arguments will eventually end his marriage, I believe he WOULD rethink which battles he chose to fight, and would be more apt to take action doing things he understands to make his wife feel loved and safe.


Wow.  I'm very glad my wife isn't a petty b!tch.   



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Maybe it's because you respect your wife and treat her with respect? Ya think?

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Maybe it's because you respect your wife and treat her with respect? Ya think?


Or--she doesn't give a rat's ass where I leave some glass.  



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Or she could be trying to get him to realize it isn't her job to clean up after him. It's HIS job to clean up after himself. Saying that he didn't want to put the glass away unless company was coming over misses the point entirely. Who ends up putting that glass in the dishwasher? Does he go back later and do it? I doubt it. He is expecting his wife to clean up after him and that's ridiculous.


But how is it somehow more difficult to take the glass out of the sink--or off the counter?  


 More difficult for who? I don't understand your question. 

If he uses a glass, he should put it in the dishwasher when he is done with it. Leaving it either in the sink or on the counter is lazy. His wife isn't responsible for cleaning up after a grown man. 


Dishes don't go in the dishwasher until you have enough for a full load.  Depending on what dishes you have, you might not want them arranged in the random fashion they would be if you put them in one by one.

Dishes go in the sink--then when you have enough for a load, the dishwasher.   


 Uh, NO.  You put them in as you use them, you don't leave them in the sink.  You RUN the dishwasher when it is full, but you don't leave a sink filling up with dirty dishes, that's how you get bugs.

Just gross.  And since I'm hardly a candidate for housekeeper of the year, that's saying something.



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Wow. No. I don't want a sink full of dishes until I have enough for a load. You put dishes in the dishwasher until you have enough to run it. I wouldn't let dirty dishes just sit in the sink until I had enough to load the dishwasher. That's disgusting. And how do you use the sink in the meantime?! Yuck.


No way.  Then I just have to take half of them out, again, to get them arranged.   


 Are you that bad at loading your dishwasher? There's a spot for everything in ours. Put dishes in their spots until it is full enough to run. 

How can you use the sink if it is always full of dishes?


No way that works.  You don't always have the same exact dishes every week.   Sometimes there is a skillet--which has to go in a certain place--but we don't have a skillet every week.  The big pots need to go on the bottom, but that's where the plates also go--sometimes you have a big pot, sometimes not. 

 

Also, there are usually two halves to the sink. 


 My skillets don't go in the dishwasher - which is why an empty sink is necessary at all times - to wash the dishes that don't go in the dishwasher.  To wash food, as well.



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I'm with Gaga. It is just the glass.

This is his side of the story.

I bet her side would be a lot different.

But I don't know how some women do it. They meet and marry a guy who is basically a big toddler.



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Well i am not gonna freak over a few dishes in the sink. Sometimes the dishwasher is running and then there are new dishes or whatever. But i expect that we both care for our home and things. And that we consider each other. Yeah there are some bitchy women out there who rag on hard working husbands. There are also hard working ladies who have adolescent minded husbands too.

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DH tries to clean up after himself. But there's usually...no...always, one thing he misses. I laugh. And put it away for him. He can't help it. His mother was the same way. She's stay here and watch the boys. I'd come home. Place was tidy. Except for one thing. Usually the bottles or leftover formula.

Pick your battles. This is not a hill for me to die on. It's easier for me to follow up than sound like a fishwife.

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Wow. No. I don't want a sink full of dishes until I have enough for a load. You put dishes in the dishwasher until you have enough to run it. I wouldn't let dirty dishes just sit in the sink until I had enough to load the dishwasher. That's disgusting. And how do you use the sink in the meantime?! Yuck.


No way.  Then I just have to take half of them out, again, to get them arranged.   


 Are you that bad at loading your dishwasher? There's a spot for everything in ours. Put dishes in their spots until it is full enough to run. 

How can you use the sink if it is always full of dishes?


No way that works.  You don't always have the same exact dishes every week.   Sometimes there is a skillet--which has to go in a certain place--but we don't have a skillet every week.  The big pots need to go on the bottom, but that's where the plates also go--sometimes you have a big pot, sometimes not. 

 

Also, there are usually two halves to the sink. 


 My skillets don't go in the dishwasher - which is why an empty sink is necessary at all times - to wash the dishes that don't go in the dishwasher.  To wash food, as well.


????  Why not?  What's the point of a dishwasher if you can't wash dishes in it?   



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Or she could be trying to get him to realize it isn't her job to clean up after him. It's HIS job to clean up after himself. Saying that he didn't want to put the glass away unless company was coming over misses the point entirely. Who ends up putting that glass in the dishwasher? Does he go back later and do it? I doubt it. He is expecting his wife to clean up after him and that's ridiculous.


But how is it somehow more difficult to take the glass out of the sink--or off the counter?  


 More difficult for who? I don't understand your question. 

If he uses a glass, he should put it in the dishwasher when he is done with it. Leaving it either in the sink or on the counter is lazy. His wife isn't responsible for cleaning up after a grown man. 


Dishes don't go in the dishwasher until you have enough for a full load.  Depending on what dishes you have, you might not want them arranged in the random fashion they would be if you put them in one by one.

Dishes go in the sink--then when you have enough for a load, the dishwasher.   


 Uh, NO.  You put them in as you use them, you don't leave them in the sink.  You RUN the dishwasher when it is full, but you don't leave a sink filling up with dirty dishes, that's how you get bugs.

Just gross.  And since I'm hardly a candidate for housekeeper of the year, that's saying something.


Nope, no bugs.   



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Why would a bug care where the dishes are, anyway?

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Wow. No. I don't want a sink full of dishes until I have enough for a load. You put dishes in the dishwasher until you have enough to run it. I wouldn't let dirty dishes just sit in the sink until I had enough to load the dishwasher. That's disgusting. And how do you use the sink in the meantime?! Yuck.


No way.  Then I just have to take half of them out, again, to get them arranged.   


 Are you that bad at loading your dishwasher? There's a spot for everything in ours. Put dishes in their spots until it is full enough to run. 

How can you use the sink if it is always full of dishes?


 I have NO idea!

Dirty dishes get rinsed, then go in the dishwasher...

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Why would a bug care where the dishes are, anyway?


 You RINSE the cup, then put it in the dishwasher.

I have NEVER found a bug in my dishwasher; I have in the sink.

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Wow. No. I don't want a sink full of dishes until I have enough for a load. You put dishes in the dishwasher until you have enough to run it. I wouldn't let dirty dishes just sit in the sink until I had enough to load the dishwasher. That's disgusting. And how do you use the sink in the meantime?! Yuck.


No way.  Then I just have to take half of them out, again, to get them arranged.   


 Are you that bad at loading your dishwasher? There's a spot for everything in ours. Put dishes in their spots until it is full enough to run. 

How can you use the sink if it is always full of dishes?


No way that works.  You don't always have the same exact dishes every week.   Sometimes there is a skillet--which has to go in a certain place--but we don't have a skillet every week.  The big pots need to go on the bottom, but that's where the plates also go--sometimes you have a big pot, sometimes not. 

 

Also, there are usually two halves to the sink. 


 My skillets don't go in the dishwasher - which is why an empty sink is necessary at all times - to wash the dishes that don't go in the dishwasher.  To wash food, as well.


????  Why not?  What's the point of a dishwasher if you can't wash dishes in it?   


 Well, it won't be an issue much longer, as I'm replacing them all with ceramic and such, but non-stick pans are not supposed to go in the dishwasher. 



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Why would a bug care where the dishes are, anyway?


 You RINSE the cup, then put it in the dishwasher.

I have NEVER found a bug in my dishwasher; I have in the sink.

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 That's because dishwashers are sealed. 



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You know if you just go ahead and wash the cup, it's done.

Doesn't sit anywhere.

That always drove me nuts.

Having dishes piling up, either in the sink or the dishwasher. Dirty dishes just sitting there.

It bugs me.

Just wash it and be done with it.

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Oh, and my cast iron grill pans can't go in the dishwasher, either.

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Why would a bug care where the dishes are, anyway?


 You RINSE the cup, then put it in the dishwasher.

I have NEVER found a bug in my dishwasher; I have in the sink.

flan


 That's because dishwashers are sealed. 


 No, we leave ours open, but still no bugs.

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Oh, and my cast iron grill pans can't go in the dishwasher, either.


Ok, if they are cast iron--but many pots and pans are not.  



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Why would a bug care where the dishes are, anyway?


 You RINSE the cup, then put it in the dishwasher.

I have NEVER found a bug in my dishwasher; I have in the sink.

flan


I've never had bugs either place, in any of the houses we've lived in--other than a few houseflies, but those come from the outside in the summer.  We don't have them this time of year.

Rinsing the dishes before they go in the dishwasher just means you don't have a good dishwasher. What's the point of a dishwasher if you have to wash the dishes, anyway? 

 

 



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Why would a bug care where the dishes are, anyway?


 You RINSE the cup, then put it in the dishwasher.

I have NEVER found a bug in my dishwasher; I have in the sink.

flan


I've never had bugs either place, in any of the houses we've lived in--other than a few houseflies, but those come from the outside in the summer.  We don't have them this time of year.

Rinsing the dishes before they go in the dishwasher just means you don't have a good dishwasher. What's the point of a dishwasher if you have to wash the dishes, anyway? 

 

 


 Husker, what kind of dishwasher do you have?  Because quite frankly, if it's getting all your dishes clean after they have sat in the sink for days getting crusty and not being rinsed, it must be the best dishwasher in the world.



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I dont put pots , pans, skillets or plastic tupperware type stuff in the dishwasher. Just my glasses , corelle dishes and silverware. Everything else is handwashed.

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Why would a bug care where the dishes are, anyway?


 You RINSE the cup, then put it in the dishwasher.

I have NEVER found a bug in my dishwasher; I have in the sink.

flan


I've never had bugs either place, in any of the houses we've lived in--other than a few houseflies, but those come from the outside in the summer.  We don't have them this time of year.

Rinsing the dishes before they go in the dishwasher just means you don't have a good dishwasher. What's the point of a dishwasher if you have to wash the dishes, anyway? 

 

 


 Husker, what kind of dishwasher do you have?  Because quite frankly, if it's getting all your dishes clean after they have sat in the sink for days getting crusty and not being rinsed, it must be the best dishwasher in the world.


Right now, a Whirlpool.  The Maytags we've had have been great, also. The Kenmore was junk. 

 

I prefer the Maytags because they ran more quietly, but the Whirlpool gets 'em clean. 

I put a casserole dish in the other night that had stuff baked on it.  It came out spotless.  



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Oh, and my cast iron grill pans can't go in the dishwasher, either.


 you know that is odd about dishwashers ruining cast iron pans.  I can wash my cast iron stove grates in the dishwasher and they are fine, of course they don't need to be seasoned to use.  Maybe its the seasoned issue that wrecks the pans.



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The overall problem in the original post isn't that he was leaving dishes out, or that she has unreasonable expectations. The problem is that she told him many times that x was important to her, and he neglected to make it important to do for her. This goes both ways tho. Women do the same thing.

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I got up about 6:00 this morning & guess what I found...a sink FULL of dirty dishes.

Should I divorce my DH?

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Yeah, dump him, flan. You deserve better.

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Yeah, dump him, flan. You deserve better.

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 Yup, that's the obvious solution according to this article and those who agree with it.  



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In all seriousness, there has to be more to the story. After I left my abusive husband, someone asked me, "Okay, what really happened. There had to be more than the fact that he liked football and you didn't."

The leavee usually leaves out a lot.

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