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weltschmerz · Guru

RE: Dear Miss Manners: Incorrect Change

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Actually not Lily. I've stayed quite consistent. I've said it's your money to do with whatever you please. I've always maintained that you claim to eat so healthy and then eat out all the time. That opinion has always been consistent and you can even ask LL. It's your money and you can spend it how you want. But ohfour is judging flan and how she spends her money. I would think if I were on a budget I would be a lot more careful with my money. And that goes for anyone. So you can call me whatever you want but I've been consistent and "laughing" at me is just weird and dumb.

No, no, no.

I'm talking about the "you buy your kid a fancy bike" and "how do you take so many trips" type comments you make.

But I've come to expect the sideways comments.

I just consider the source.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I'm stingy. I want my change.

That's not being stingy, it's standing up for what's right.

And again, I TOTALLY AGREE. You have the right to get your change back.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I'm stingy. I want my change.

That's not being stingy, it's standing up for what's right.

Nah.

It's more about saving for trips, gifts, eating out.

I save my change.

It adds up.

That's one way we can go and do things other than just getting by.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I've only had this happen the other way - for example, the waitress give me $4 and short herself the 32 cents.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
You're so funny when your own words get turned back on you.

She's echoing your words, though.

flan

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

I want my change. Even if I plan to leave it. It's mine until I say so.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

lilyofcourse wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Actually not Lily. I've stayed quite consistent. I've said it's your money to do with whatever you please. I've always maintained that you claim to eat so healthy and then eat out all the time. That opinion has always been consistent and you can even ask LL. It's your money and you can spend it how you want. But ohfour is judging flan and how she spends her money. I would think if I were on a budget I would be a lot more careful with my money. And that goes for anyone. So you can call me whatever you want but I've been consistent and "laughing" at me is just weird and dumb.
No, no, no.
I'm talking about the "you buy your kid a fancy bike" and "how do you take so many trips" type comments you make.
But I've come to expect the sideways comments.
I just consider the source.

Okay Lily, I thought about this. I'm calling you on this. You say you never start trouble, you never stir the pot, and you never attack anyone. You say you are always innocent in it. It is comments like these that stir the pot. You are not innocent. You take just as many jabs on this board as does anyone else.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Southern_Belle wrote:
I want my change. Even if I plan to leave it. It's mine until I say so.

Exactly. I've never had it happen to me but I have had friends where the wait staff just took their tip off when they rang up the bill on their card. Again, you don't get to decide what tip you get, if any. It's not your money until I give it to you.

weltschmerz · Guru

Southern_Belle wrote:
I want my change. Even if I plan to leave it. It's mine until I say so.

Evidently, if you want your change, you can't afford to be eating in a restaurant.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Actually not Lily. I've stayed quite consistent. I've said it's your money to do with whatever you please. I've always maintained that you claim to eat so healthy and then eat out all the time. That opinion has always been consistent and you can even ask LL. It's your money and you can spend it how you want. But ohfour is judging flan and how she spends her money. I would think if I were on a budget I would be a lot more careful with my money. And that goes for anyone. So you can call me whatever you want but I've been consistent and "laughing" at me is just weird and dumb.
No, no, no.
I'm talking about the "you buy your kid a fancy bike" and "how do you take so many trips" type comments you make.
But I've come to expect the sideways comments.
I just consider the source.
Okay Lily, I thought about this. I'm calling you on this. You say you never start trouble, you never stir the pot, and you never attack anyone. You say you are always innocent in it. It is comments like these that stir the pot. You are not innocent. You take just as many jabs on this board as does anyone else.

Oh no. I never claimed to be anything.

I don't pretend to be something I'm not.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

weltschmerz wrote:
Southern_Belle wrote:
I want my change. Even if I plan to leave it. It's mine until I say so.
Evidently, if you want your change, you can't afford to be eating in a restaurant.

Well shucks!

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

huskerbb wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
If .68 is going to break you, you probably should be eating out...
Yup. Not saying they should shortchange you--but really.

If the meal was .68 more expensive are you saying you wouldn't order it based on that?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Saturday 30th of January 2016 02:46:26 PM
Unsurprisingly you are missing the point. It isn't about if I will go broke from not getting my change. It's about the server taking something that doesn't belong to them. The change isn't theirs to take. It belongs to me and if I want you to have it I will give it to you. Taking something without asking, regardless of how small that thing is, is theft.

BS. I didn't miss the point at all--flan directly stated that she wasn't "rich" and needed her change. Therefore, it is apparently about going broke from not getting her change. Try to follow the thread.

It isn't about going broke from not getting the change. 68 cents isn't going to send flan to skid row. It's about being careful with your money and knowing what you spend and where it is instead of letting it rain change just because you are too lazy to say something.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

weltschmerz wrote:
Southern_Belle wrote:
I want my change. Even if I plan to leave it. It's mine until I say so.
Evidently, if you want your change, you can't afford to be eating in a restaurant.

Exactly. You should apparently just throw money away.

Honeys_Mom · Mod & Permanent Board Sweetheart

What about "gratuity added to total"? It's on a management-level instead of server-level, but isn't it much the same thing? Your right to give or withhold your own money is taken away.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Southern_Belle wrote:
I want my change. Even if I plan to leave it. It's mine until I say so.
Evidently, if you want your change, you can't afford to be eating in a restaurant.
Exactly. You should apparently just throw money away.

If a waitress has to pocket the coins from each check maybe SHE can't afford to work in that restaurant! Go work someplace more expensive which will net larger tips.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Southern_Belle wrote:
I want my change. Even if I plan to leave it. It's mine until I say so.
Evidently, if you want your change, you can't afford to be eating in a restaurant.
Exactly. You should apparently just throw money away.

Because you just can't be bothered with those silly coins.

flan

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Honeys_Mom wrote:
What about "gratuity added to total"? It's on a management-level instead of server-level, but isn't it much the same thing? Your right to give or withhold your own money is taken away.

It depends. Here, not sure how it is at other places, if your party is over 20 people they automatically take a tip out. Otherwise, you get to decide. Or should.

weltschmerz · Guru

Honeys_Mom wrote:
What about "gratuity added to total"? It's on a management-level instead of server-level, but isn't it much the same thing? Your right to give or withhold your own money is taken away.

I know which restaurants have a "gratuitity added to total." It's my choice to eat there.

Quite different from waters pocketing my change on top of their tip.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Honeys_Mom wrote:
What about "gratuity added to total"? It's on a management-level instead of server-level, but isn't it much the same thing? Your right to give or withhold your own money is taken away.

I tip better than the standard "gratuity added". But if they want to add 15% that's what they get instead.

-- Edited by Southern_Belle on Saturday 30th of January 2016 05:14:11 PM

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Honeys_Mom wrote:
What about "gratuity added to total"? It's on a management-level instead of server-level, but isn't it much the same thing? Your right to give or withhold your own money is taken away.

Yeah, I ignore those 'added" tips.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Boston Market was delicious. I didn't eat much, though. Lots of leftovers for tomorrow.

flan

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Southern_Belle wrote:
Honeys_Mom wrote:
What about "gratuity added to total"? It's on a management-level instead of server-level, but isn't it much the same thing? Your right to give or withhold your own money is taken away.
I tip better than the standard "gratuity added". But if they want to add 15% that's what they get instead.

-- Edited by Southern_Belle on Saturday 30th of January 2016 05:14:11 PM

Yep, we threw a party a steak house once. There were about 25 people there. They added in the gratuity. We always pay more but we didn't then.

Ohfour · Hooker

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Lets say you eat out 10 times a week. That would be about $7 in lost change. If $7 a week makes that much of a difference, you really should just stay home and eat ramen noodles. You definitely shouldnt be going out.
Really? I don't know anyone who eats out that often that is broke. The only people that I know that eat out that much have the money for it. But yes, I've been "forced", not really forced but you get tired of people bugging the crap out of you, to go out to dinner when you can't really afford it. Eventually you give in. So while you have plenty of money to give away others might not.
Obviously, Flan does and is...
That's kind of taking a little shot at flan but oh well. Lily says she's stingy and wants her change back. Why don't you chastise her? I have money when I go out to eat but it's MY DAMN MONEY. You don't get to make the decision to keep it or not keep it. And I don't really care if flan goes out to eat. This is something that bugs me. People will judge someone and say they spend too much money on xyz. We all have things we spend too much money on. Some people buy hundreds of pairs of shoes. I go to Starbucks. I don't have to go to Starbucks and it would save money if I didn't but I go. We all use our discretionary income in our own way.
And using your own theory if you are willing to give away $7 a week on eating out where else are you willing to give away money on? I've found that people who willingly leave money behind leave hundreds of dollars behind at the end of the year. It's not JUST eating out. It's leaving your change when you get coffee or leaving your change when you go to the dry cleaners. It adds up. It's a mentality that people have. Most people want to account for their money. Some don't care.

I ALWAYS leave the coins. Every single time. At Starbucks, at the gas station, hell, even in vending machines.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

flan327 wrote:
Boston Market was delicious. I didn't eat much, though. Lots of leftovers for tomorrow.

flan

Did you leave your coins?

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Lets say you eat out 10 times a week. That would be about $7 in lost change. If $7 a week makes that much of a difference, you really should just stay home and eat ramen noodles. You definitely shouldnt be going out.
Really? I don't know anyone who eats out that often that is broke. The only people that I know that eat out that much have the money for it. But yes, I've been "forced", not really forced but you get tired of people bugging the crap out of you, to go out to dinner when you can't really afford it. Eventually you give in. So while you have plenty of money to give away others might not.
Obviously, Flan does and is...
That's kind of taking a little shot at flan but oh well. Lily says she's stingy and wants her change back. Why don't you chastise her? I have money when I go out to eat but it's MY DAMN MONEY. You don't get to make the decision to keep it or not keep it. And I don't really care if flan goes out to eat. This is something that bugs me. People will judge someone and say they spend too much money on xyz. We all have things we spend too much money on. Some people buy hundreds of pairs of shoes. I go to Starbucks. I don't have to go to Starbucks and it would save money if I didn't but I go. We all use our discretionary income in our own way.
And using your own theory if you are willing to give away $7 a week on eating out where else are you willing to give away money on? I've found that people who willingly leave money behind leave hundreds of dollars behind at the end of the year. It's not JUST eating out. It's leaving your change when you get coffee or leaving your change when you go to the dry cleaners. It adds up. It's a mentality that people have. Most people want to account for their money. Some don't care.
I ALWAYS leave the coins. Every single time. At Starbucks, at the gas station, hell, even in vending machines.

DD loves when people do that! She takes the coins. We have a jar we put our coins into. It supplements our vacation mad money!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Honeys_Mom wrote:
What about "gratuity added to total"? It's on a management-level instead of server-level, but isn't it much the same thing? Your right to give or withhold your own money is taken away.

I don't like that either.

But I know it is.

1. Because, again, people can't do simple math.

2. To make sure it is counted toward the servers pay.

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Lets say you eat out 10 times a week. That would be about $7 in lost change. If $7 a week makes that much of a difference, you really should just stay home and eat ramen noodles. You definitely shouldnt be going out.
Really? I don't know anyone who eats out that often that is broke. The only people that I know that eat out that much have the money for it. But yes, I've been "forced", not really forced but you get tired of people bugging the crap out of you, to go out to dinner when you can't really afford it. Eventually you give in. So while you have plenty of money to give away others might not.
Obviously, Flan does and is...
That's kind of taking a little shot at flan but oh well. Lily says she's stingy and wants her change back. Why don't you chastise her? I have money when I go out to eat but it's MY DAMN MONEY. You don't get to make the decision to keep it or not keep it. And I don't really care if flan goes out to eat. This is something that bugs me. People will judge someone and say they spend too much money on xyz. We all have things we spend too much money on. Some people buy hundreds of pairs of shoes. I go to Starbucks. I don't have to go to Starbucks and it would save money if I didn't but I go. We all use our discretionary income in our own way.
And using your own theory if you are willing to give away $7 a week on eating out where else are you willing to give away money on? I've found that people who willingly leave money behind leave hundreds of dollars behind at the end of the year. It's not JUST eating out. It's leaving your change when you get coffee or leaving your change when you go to the dry cleaners. It adds up. It's a mentality that people have. Most people want to account for their money. Some don't care.
I ALWAYS leave the coins. Every single time. At Starbucks, at the gas station, hell, even in vending machines.

Are you going to leave your coins behind in Canada?

Our ones are coins. Our twos are coins.

I guess you're too good to carry your coins around.

More for us.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Well I see we have the gang of 3 acting like trolls on this board. Why don't you all just cut it out? Flan, NJN, and Weltz, your bashing of O4 is constant and really brings things down. NJN posted how nice she liked it with O4 gone but the truth is your all are the instigators.

Ohfour · Hooker

Meh, it just makes me realize how wonderful my life is...too be that ill all the time. Must be miserable...something im definitely not.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

flan did NOTHING. Not one thing but say she needed her change. I don't really give a rat's ass what you think of me. But don't lump flan into there when she did nothing.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Well I see we have the gang of 3 acting like trolls on this board. Why don't you all just cut it out? Flan, NJN, and Weltz, your bashing of O4 is constant and really brings things down. NJN posted how nice she liked it with O4 gone but the truth is your all are the instigators.

Now, you're the troll.

O4 most definitely stated she can't be bothered to carry coins around.

We're not allowed to say anything? What WILL she do if she buys something for 39 cents and gives the merchant a five dollar bill in Canada?

Leave behind over $4, because it's all in change? I have every right to ask.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

We're the trifecta of meanness welts. Oh well. I can live with that.

chef · Guru

Honeys_Mom wrote:
What about "gratuity added to total"? It's on a management-level instead of server-level, but isn't it much the same thing? Your right to give or withhold your own money is taken away.

I don't have a problem with 'gratuity added' because I understand why it's done. Larger parties take more time and the server can't flip the table as often. Ideally, everyone would properly tip on their portion of the bill but that doesn't happen. Everyone thinks everyone else is going to tip and they cheap out. Sometimes, if one person is paying the bill, they don't tip properly either so the server sometimes ends up working for free after tip out (i.e. their tip out is more than the tip they received).

I realize that it's the server's choice to have that job but I don't believe a person should ever have to pay to be at work.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Well I see we have the gang of 3 acting like trolls on this board. Why don't you all just cut it out? Flan, NJN, and Weltz, your bashing of O4 is constant and really brings things down. NJN posted how nice she liked it with O4 gone but the truth is your all are the instigators.
Now, you're the troll.
O4 most definitely stated she can't be bothered to carry coins around.
We're not allowed to say anything? What WILL she do if she buys something for 39 cents and gives the merchant a five dollar bill in Canada?
Leave behind over $4, because it's all in change? I have every right to ask.

Well, seeing that I'm not in Canada, it doesnt matter does it? You like to make up asinine situations, dont you now?

Ohfour · Hooker

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
We're the trifecta of meanness welts. Oh well. I can live with that.

Its not as much meanness as much as it seems to be jealousy.

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Well I see we have the gang of 3 acting like trolls on this board. Why don't you all just cut it out? Flan, NJN, and Weltz, your bashing of O4 is constant and really brings things down. NJN posted how nice she liked it with O4 gone but the truth is your all are the instigators.
Now, you're the troll.
O4 most definitely stated she can't be bothered to carry coins around.
We're not allowed to say anything? What WILL she do if she buys something for 39 cents and gives the merchant a five dollar bill in Canada?
Leave behind over $4, because it's all in change? I have every right to ask.

Well, seeing that I'm not in Canada, it doesnt matter does it? You like to make up asinine situations, dont you now?

You said you're going to Canada. On the Canada thread.

Ohfour · Hooker

Doesnt mean that im going to pay for anything. Thats my husbands job. Hell, i dont even go to the grocery store here, im sure as hell not going to in Canada...

weltschmerz · Guru

Here it is!!!

"After G retires in April, hes taking off with the boat and driving to Canada for a few weeks, fishing wherever his little heart desires. I will meet him in June for opening of Bass Season. We really like it up there."

Ohfour · Hooker

Yeah, i wrote that today. Your point?

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Doesnt mean that im going to pay for anything. Thats my husbands job. Hell, i dont even go to the grocery store here, im sure as hell not going to in Canada...

Got it. You immediately went from this.....

"I ALWAYS leave the coins. Every single time. At Starbucks, at the gas station, hell, even in vending machines."

to never buying anything because your husband handles all the money.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
We're the trifecta of meanness welts. Oh well. I can live with that.
Its not as much meanness as much as it seems to be jealousy.

Oh no honey. There's nothing in your life I'm jealous of. Except maybe that you have grand kids but, given time, so will I so no, it's definitely not jealousy. I can say that for sure.

Ohfour · Hooker

Where we go in Canada, there are no vending machines, Starbucks, and i dont go to the gas station. We're in the middle of nowhere. If we needs something, he makes the trek. I sit on the deck...

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
We're the trifecta of meanness welts. Oh well. I can live with that.
Its not as much meanness as much as it seems to be jealousy.
Oh no honey. There's nothing in your life I'm jealous of. Except maybe that you have grand kids but, given time, so will I so no, it's definitely not jealousy. I can say that for sure.

Interesting you used the word "Honey" when it's a name you have not used here. You used it to offend, show your obnoxiousness, and to be snotty. Like a troll would!

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
We're the trifecta of meanness welts. Oh well. I can live with that.
Its not as much meanness as much as it seems to be jealousy.
Oh no honey. There's nothing in your life I'm jealous of. Except maybe that you have grand kids but, given time, so will I so no, it's definitely not jealousy. I can say that for sure.
Interesting you used the word "Honey" when it's a name you have not used here. You used it to offend, show your obnoxiousness, and to be snotty. Like a troll would!

Call me all the names that you wish. Does not bother me. Feel free.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Oh brother.

weltschmerz · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
We're the trifecta of meanness welts. Oh well. I can live with that.
Its not as much meanness as much as it seems to be jealousy.
Oh no honey. There's nothing in your life I'm jealous of. Except maybe that you have grand kids but, given time, so will I so no, it's definitely not jealousy. I can say that for sure.
Interesting you used the word "Honey" when it's a name you have not used here. You used it to offend, show your obnoxiousness, and to be snotty. Like a troll would!

Not nearly as snotty and obnoxious as saying if you can't afford to leave behind all your change, you shouldn't be going out to eat.

ed11563 · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
We're the trifecta of meanness welts. Oh well. I can live with that.
Its not as much meanness as much as it seems to be jealousy.
Oh no honey. There's nothing in your life I'm jealous of. Except maybe that you have grand kids but, given time, so will I so no, it's definitely not jealousy. I can say that for sure.
Interesting you used the word "Honey" when it's a name you have not used here. You used it to offend, show your obnoxiousness, and to be snotty. Like a troll would!
Not nearly as snotty and obnoxious as saying if you can't afford to leave behind all your change, you shouldn't be going out to eat.

IMHO, there's a huge difference between choosing to leave behind change (or all your change) vs. someone else making that decision FOR YOU.

The first one is giving a gift, the second one is being robbed.

weltschmerz · Guru

ed11563 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
We're the trifecta of meanness welts. Oh well. I can live with that.
Its not as much meanness as much as it seems to be jealousy.
Oh no honey. There's nothing in your life I'm jealous of. Except maybe that you have grand kids but, given time, so will I so no, it's definitely not jealousy. I can say that for sure.
Interesting you used the word "Honey" when it's a name you have not used here. You used it to offend, show your obnoxiousness, and to be snotty. Like a troll would!
Not nearly as snotty and obnoxious as saying if you can't afford to leave behind all your change, you shouldn't be going out to eat.
IMHO, there's a huge difference between choosing to leave behind change (or all your change) vs. someone else making that decision FOR YOU.
The first one is giving a gift, the second one is being robbed.

Well, of course it is!