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How about everyone is entitle to their opinions and not be attacked for them if they disagree with you. You have the freedom to feel the way you do and publicly express those feeling. Just because someone does not agree, does not mean that the others opinion is wrong and they do not deserve to be attacked.

Animals may not have abortion but many certainly let their young die when they are unwanted or deformed in any way.


Shouldn't that go both ways? 



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Absolutely it should go both ways. I did not pick either side and I don't believe that I have voiced my opinion for either side. I did not single out a post except about the animals.

I know that the topic of abortion is a hot button on this board which is part of the reason I have not fully expressed my own views. And don't assume from that answer that you know my views because they are not that simple. It is a very individual choice.

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It's interesting that some members think that the pro-life people are the ones that keep bringing it up, when it's almost always the pro-killing people. There are more pro-life here, so it may seem that we harp on it, but it's RARELY brought up by us. We are usually the ones responding to a comment...

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Not sure why animals are always brought up? We are more than animals. We are made in the Image of God. We have a spiritual/moral component and obligation and responsibility as MORAL creatures that we do not expect of animals. Dogs eat their own poop sometimes too, that doesn't then mean that is something we should model. Sheesh.

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We're not supposed to eat poop? Thanks for letting me know. Sometimes I feel chit is constantly being shoved down my throat!

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We're not supposed to eat poop? Thanks for letting me know. Sometimes I feel chit is constantly being shoved down my throat!


 Open wide!!  



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We're not supposed to eat poop? Thanks for letting me know. Sometimes I feel chit is constantly being shoved down my throat!


 Open wide!!  


   That's the best emoticon I have for that!  biggrin



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As sentient beings, we should not kill our young because they are inconvenient. We should be on a higher plain of thought and compassion.
I truly wish adoption was as cheap as abortion. All unwanted babies would get a home.

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just Czech wrote:

As sentient beings, we should not kill our young because they are inconvenient. We should be on a higher plain of thought and compassion.
I truly wish adoption was as cheap as abortion. All unwanted babies would get a home.


 Serious question Czech.  Do you think if there were more children available to adopt that adoption would go down price wise?



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just Czech wrote:

As sentient beings, we should not kill our young because they are inconvenient. We should be on a higher plain of thought and compassion.
I truly wish adoption was as cheap as abortion. All unwanted babies would get a home.


 Serious question Czech.  Do you think if there were more children available to adopt that adoption would go down price wise?


 I will answer  this...

 

Absolutely.  To adopt from one of our girls is less than $1000. Often much less, depending on the circumstances. ..



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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
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As sentient beings, we should not kill our young because they are inconvenient. We should be on a higher plain of thought and compassion.
I truly wish adoption was as cheap as abortion. All unwanted babies would get a home.


 Serious question Czech.  Do you think if there were more children available to adopt that adoption would go down price wise?


 Our tax dollars pay for a a abortion now, put that money toward adoption instead.



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just Czech wrote:
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just Czech wrote:

As sentient beings, we should not kill our young because they are inconvenient. We should be on a higher plain of thought and compassion.
I truly wish adoption was as cheap as abortion. All unwanted babies would get a home.


 Serious question Czech.  Do you think if there were more children available to adopt that adoption would go down price wise?


 Our tax dollars pay for a a abortion now, put that money toward adoption instead.


 To adopt a child is such a difficult process, it's ridiculous.  Mine, which was supposed to be an easy, close family adoption took years and about $2,500.  That doesn't seem like a lot, but it's about 10 times the cost of an abortion.



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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
just Czech wrote:

As sentient beings, we should not kill our young because they are inconvenient. We should be on a higher plain of thought and compassion.
I truly wish adoption was as cheap as abortion. All unwanted babies would get a home.


 Serious question Czech.  Do you think if there were more children available to adopt that adoption would go down price wise?


 Let's say for simplicity's sake that there are one million adoptive couples out there and one million unwanted babies. First year, it works out fine.

Second year, there are a million more babies, but not a million more couples. It's math.

By year five, there will be such surfeit of bahies you won't be able to give them away. Then it's orphanages or something equally distubing.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Not sure why animals are always brought up? We are more than animals. We are made in the Image of God. We have a spiritual/moral component and obligation and responsibility as MORAL creatures that we do not expect of animals. Dogs eat their own poop sometimes too, that doesn't then mean that is something we should model. Sheesh.


 And all those baby souls will float heavenward, straight into the loving arms of Jesus. No earthly strife.

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OR

Women could start being responsible with birth control or even, I don't know, not have sex until they are 100% ready to accept ALL the consequences of their actions.


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If abortion couldnt be used for birth control, women would be MUCH more careful. Far fewer unplanned pregnancies. They wouldnt have a "get out of jail free" card...

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jlbear71 wrote:

Absolutely it should go both ways. I did not pick either side and I don't believe that I have voiced my opinion for either side. I did not single out a post except about the animals.

I know that the topic of abortion is a hot button on this board which is part of the reason I have not fully expressed my own views. And don't assume from that answer that you know my views because they are not that simple. It is a very individual choice.


 Yes, thank you.

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Yep.

In response to O4.



-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Tuesday 2nd of February 2016 06:44:22 PM

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flan327 wrote:
jlbear71 wrote:

Absolutely it should go both ways. I did not pick either side and I don't believe that I have voiced my opinion for either side. I did not single out a post except about the animals.

I know that the topic of abortion is a hot button on this board which is part of the reason I have not fully expressed my own views. And don't assume from that answer that you know my views because they are not that simple. It is a very individual choice.


 Yes, thank you.

flan


 So is spreading your legs (or not) for every Tom, Dick, and Harry that wants you to get them off..

 



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You should send him a singing telegram to tell him.

Or a strip-o-gram.

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Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
jlbear71 wrote:

Absolutely it should go both ways. I did not pick either side and I don't believe that I have voiced my opinion for either side. I did not single out a post except about the animals.

I know that the topic of abortion is a hot button on this board which is part of the reason I have not fully expressed my own views. And don't assume from that answer that you know my views because they are not that simple. It is a very individual choice.


 Yes, thank you.

flan


 So is spreading your legs (or not) for every Tom, Dick, and Harry that wants you to get them off..

 


 That's a typical comment...Hope it made you feel better to type those words.

flan



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Not everyone that has an unplanned pregnancy is a slut. I'm not saying that women don't need to take responsibility for their reproductive health but honestly, I had an unplanned pregnancy and was married.

And before you start screaming about abortion, no, I didn't abort. It wasn't the right choice for me. My only point is that saying that unplanned pregnancies only happen to sluts is not truthful.

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Not everyone that has an unplanned pregnancy is a slut. I'm not saying that women don't need to take responsibility for their reproductive health but honestly, I had an unplanned pregnancy and was married.

And before you start screaming about abortion, no, I didn't abort. It wasn't the right choice for me. My only point is that saying that unplanned pregnancies only happen to sluts is not truthful.


 But it makes Conservatives feel righteous to think that, apparently.

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flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
jlbear71 wrote:

Absolutely it should go both ways. I did not pick either side and I don't believe that I have voiced my opinion for either side. I did not single out a post except about the animals.

I know that the topic of abortion is a hot button on this board which is part of the reason I have not fully expressed my own views. And don't assume from that answer that you know my views because they are not that simple. It is a very individual choice.


 Yes, thank you.

flan


 So is spreading your legs (or not) for every Tom, Dick, and Harry that wants you to get them off..

 


 That's a typical comment...Hope it made you feel better to type those words.

flan


 Its the truth. Dont fvck guys that just use you to get off. Its an undeniable truth...



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Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
jlbear71 wrote:

Absolutely it should go both ways. I did not pick either side and I don't believe that I have voiced my opinion for either side. I did not single out a post except about the animals.

I know that the topic of abortion is a hot button on this board which is part of the reason I have not fully expressed my own views. And don't assume from that answer that you know my views because they are not that simple. It is a very individual choice.


 Yes, thank you.

flan


 So is spreading your legs (or not) for every Tom, Dick, and Harry that wants you to get them off..

 


 That's a typical comment...Hope it made you feel better to type those words.

flan


 Its the truth. Dont fvck guys that just use you to get off. Its an undeniable truth...


 Classy.



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flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

Not everyone that has an unplanned pregnancy is a slut. I'm not saying that women don't need to take responsibility for their reproductive health but honestly, I had an unplanned pregnancy and was married.

And before you start screaming about abortion, no, I didn't abort. It wasn't the right choice for me. My only point is that saying that unplanned pregnancies only happen to sluts is not truthful.


 But it makes Conservatives feel righteous to think that, apparently.

flan


 I had an unplanned pregnancy. I didnt kill my child. I took responsibility.  

Normal people dont kill their kids...



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weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
jlbear71 wrote:

Absolutely it should go both ways. I did not pick either side and I don't believe that I have voiced my opinion for either side. I did not single out a post except about the animals.

I know that the topic of abortion is a hot button on this board which is part of the reason I have not fully expressed my own views. And don't assume from that answer that you know my views because they are not that simple. It is a very individual choice.


 Yes, thank you.

flan


 So is spreading your legs (or not) for every Tom, Dick, and Harry that wants you to get them off..

 


 That's a typical comment...Hope it made you feel better to type those words.

flan


 Its the truth. Dont fvck guys that just use you to get off. Its an undeniable truth...


 Classy.


 True.



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If I found out I was pregnant and carrying a microcephalic fetus due to the zeta virus, I wouldn't go to term. I would abort.
My choice. It has nothing to do with sluts fvcking.

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No. Unplanned pregnancy can happen.

But with the Birth control options we have now, they should be few and very far between.

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weltschmerz wrote:
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just Czech wrote:

As sentient beings, we should not kill our young because they are inconvenient. We should be on a higher plain of thought and compassion.
I truly wish adoption was as cheap as abortion. All unwanted babies would get a home.


 Serious question Czech.  Do you think if there were more children available to adopt that adoption would go down price wise?


 Let's say for simplicity's sake that there are one million adoptive couples out there and one million unwanted babies. First year, it works out fine.

Second year, there are a million more babies, but not a million more couples. It's math.

By year five, there will be such surfeit of bahies you won't be able to give them away. Then it's orphanages or something equally distubing.


 Most adoptive families want more then one child. We adopted three, so let's just use two for a number. That would be two million families per year after the first year, so there would still be a shortage of available infants.

infertility is also on the rise, so I don't see a shortage of adoptive families anytime soon.



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Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

Not everyone that has an unplanned pregnancy is a slut. I'm not saying that women don't need to take responsibility for their reproductive health but honestly, I had an unplanned pregnancy and was married.

And before you start screaming about abortion, no, I didn't abort. It wasn't the right choice for me. My only point is that saying that unplanned pregnancies only happen to sluts is not truthful.


 But it makes Conservatives feel righteous to think that, apparently.

flan


 I had an unplanned pregnancy. I didnt kill my child. I took responsibility.  

Normal people dont kill their kids...


 I had my child too.  But to say I was a slut because I had an unplanned pregnancy is just not true.  I was married at the time.  Unplanned pregnancies happen to a lot of people.



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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

Not everyone that has an unplanned pregnancy is a slut. I'm not saying that women don't need to take responsibility for their reproductive health but honestly, I had an unplanned pregnancy and was married.

And before you start screaming about abortion, no, I didn't abort. It wasn't the right choice for me. My only point is that saying that unplanned pregnancies only happen to sluts is not truthful.


 But it makes Conservatives feel righteous to think that, apparently.

flan


 I had an unplanned pregnancy. I didnt kill my child. I took responsibility.  

Normal people dont kill their kids...


 I had my child too.  But to say I was a slut because I had an unplanned pregnancy is just not true.  I was married at the time.  Unplanned pregnancies happen to a lot of people.


 Agree. But most the ones that are aborting are sluts using it as birth control. Thats why women that have abortions usually have multiple abortions...



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Well, I'm not going to call anyone a slut. I will say some people make poor choices but I am not going to go down the slut road.

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Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

Not everyone that has an unplanned pregnancy is a slut. I'm not saying that women don't need to take responsibility for their reproductive health but honestly, I had an unplanned pregnancy and was married.

And before you start screaming about abortion, no, I didn't abort. It wasn't the right choice for me. My only point is that saying that unplanned pregnancies only happen to sluts is not truthful.


 But it makes Conservatives feel righteous to think that, apparently.

flan


 I had an unplanned pregnancy. I didnt kill my child. I took responsibility.  

Normal people dont kill their kids...


 I had my child too.  But to say I was a slut because I had an unplanned pregnancy is just not true.  I was married at the time.  Unplanned pregnancies happen to a lot of people.


 Agree. But most the ones that are aborting are sluts using it as birth control. Thats why women that have abortions usually have multiple abortions...


 Wow. Judgemental much?



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weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

Not everyone that has an unplanned pregnancy is a slut. I'm not saying that women don't need to take responsibility for their reproductive health but honestly, I had an unplanned pregnancy and was married.

And before you start screaming about abortion, no, I didn't abort. It wasn't the right choice for me. My only point is that saying that unplanned pregnancies only happen to sluts is not truthful.


 But it makes Conservatives feel righteous to think that, apparently.

flan


 I had an unplanned pregnancy. I didnt kill my child. I took responsibility.  

Normal people dont kill their kids...


 I had my child too.  But to say I was a slut because I had an unplanned pregnancy is just not true.  I was married at the time.  Unplanned pregnancies happen to a lot of people.


 Agree. But most the ones that are aborting are sluts using it as birth control. Thats why women that have abortions usually have multiple abortions...


 Wow. Judgemental much?


 Yep. When you kill your children as a form of BC, you should be judged. And you should be sterilized...



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Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

Not everyone that has an unplanned pregnancy is a slut. I'm not saying that women don't need to take responsibility for their reproductive health but honestly, I had an unplanned pregnancy and was married.

And before you start screaming about abortion, no, I didn't abort. It wasn't the right choice for me. My only point is that saying that unplanned pregnancies only happen to sluts is not truthful.


 But it makes Conservatives feel righteous to think that, apparently.

flan


 I had an unplanned pregnancy. I didnt kill my child. I took responsibility.  

Normal people dont kill their kids...


 I had my child too.  But to say I was a slut because I had an unplanned pregnancy is just not true.  I was married at the time.  Unplanned pregnancies happen to a lot of people.


 Agree. But most the ones that are aborting are sluts using it as birth control. Thats why women that have abortions usually have multiple abortions...


 Wow. Judgemental much?


 Yep. When you kill your children as a form of BC, you should be judged. And you should be sterilized...


 Again....judgemental much?



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weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
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Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

Not everyone that has an unplanned pregnancy is a slut. I'm not saying that women don't need to take responsibility for their reproductive health but honestly, I had an unplanned pregnancy and was married.

And before you start screaming about abortion, no, I didn't abort. It wasn't the right choice for me. My only point is that saying that unplanned pregnancies only happen to sluts is not truthful.


 But it makes Conservatives feel righteous to think that, apparently.

flan


 I had an unplanned pregnancy. I didnt kill my child. I took responsibility.  

Normal people dont kill their kids...


 I had my child too.  But to say I was a slut because I had an unplanned pregnancy is just not true.  I was married at the time.  Unplanned pregnancies happen to a lot of people.


 Agree. But most the ones that are aborting are sluts using it as birth control. Thats why women that have abortions usually have multiple abortions...


 Wow. Judgemental much?


 Yep. When you kill your children as a form of BC, you should be judged. And you should be sterilized...


 Again....judgemental much?


 Absolutely. And the laws are tilting in my favor...



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Ohfour wrote:
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Ohfour wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

Not everyone that has an unplanned pregnancy is a slut. I'm not saying that women don't need to take responsibility for their reproductive health but honestly, I had an unplanned pregnancy and was married.

And before you start screaming about abortion, no, I didn't abort. It wasn't the right choice for me. My only point is that saying that unplanned pregnancies only happen to sluts is not truthful.


 But it makes Conservatives feel righteous to think that, apparently.

flan


 I had an unplanned pregnancy. I didnt kill my child. I took responsibility.  

Normal people dont kill their kids...


 I had my child too.  But to say I was a slut because I had an unplanned pregnancy is just not true.  I was married at the time.  Unplanned pregnancies happen to a lot of people.


 Agree. But most the ones that are aborting are sluts using it as birth control. Thats why women that have abortions usually have multiple abortions...


 Wow. Judgemental much?


 Yep. When you kill your children as a form of BC, you should be judged. And you should be sterilized...


 I agree.



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So if you are told your child is only going to live hours or days after birth and you decide to abort them then you need to be sterilized?

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If I found out I was pregnant and carrying a microcephalic fetus due to the zeta virus, I wouldn't go to term. I would abort.
My choice. It has nothing to do with sluts fvcking.


 And that is not what we are talking about.

Although I don't believe in killing a baby for any reason.

We are talking about abortion because the woman wants her reproductive rights but refuses to take responsibility for her reproduction system.

 

 



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Go back and read. I said women that use abortion for BC.

 

This was a response to NJNs post...



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We were talking about the multiple aborters... Good grief.

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just Czech wrote:

We were talking about the multiple aborters... Good grief.


 The posts were running together.  I was trying to clarify the positions.  That's all.



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Ohfour wrote:
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Not everyone that has an unplanned pregnancy is a slut. I'm not saying that women don't need to take responsibility for their reproductive health but honestly, I had an unplanned pregnancy and was married.

And before you start screaming about abortion, no, I didn't abort. It wasn't the right choice for me. My only point is that saying that unplanned pregnancies only happen to sluts is not truthful.


 But it makes Conservatives feel righteous to think that, apparently.

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 I had an unplanned pregnancy. I didnt kill my child. I took responsibility.  

Normal people dont kill their kids...


 I had my child too.  But to say I was a slut because I had an unplanned pregnancy is just not true.  I was married at the time.  Unplanned pregnancies happen to a lot of people.


 Agree. But most the ones that are aborting are sluts using it as birth control. Thats why women that have abortions usually have multiple abortions...


 Wow. Judgemental much?


 Yep. When you kill your children as a form of BC, you should be judged. And you should be sterilized...


 Again....judgemental much?


 Absolutely. And the laws are tilting in my favor...


 Abortion Rates Highest Among Christians According To Groundbreaking Study

http://reverbpress.com/religion/abortion-rates-highest-among-christians-according-stunning-survey-results/

 

 



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Oh dear, look at that.

Look who is using Christianity as a weapon.

You know, just because you say it, doesn't mean you live it.

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Lol! Youre classic Welts. You like to use Christianity when it suits your needs.

I didnt realize religious affiliation was a required answer on an abortion medical form.



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Lol! Youre classic Welts. You like to use Christianity when it suits your needs.

I didnt realize religious affiliation was a required answer on an abortion medical form.


 Seriously - how would they even know that?



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Oh dear, look at that.

Look who is using Christianity as a weapon.

You know, just because you say it, doesn't mean you live it.


 Merely pointing out that good, decent, conservative, church-going women are sluts, according to some.



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