TOTALLY GEEKED!

huskerbb · Guru

RE: Well, I'm annoyed at sons girlfriends parents again

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
My wife hasn't had much of a relationship with her parents for quite some time. Since we moved back to town, she's having a bit of a rapprochement, but it remains to be seen if that is a positive thing.
She's the one who lost her job right? Sorry if that was too long ago to matter.
flan

My wife or her mom? You must have it confused with some other drama. confuse

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I think it is nice of Husker to be willing to help her learn. Kids don't just automatically download the answer to life at 18 - they still have lots to learn, and taxes is one of those things.

huskerbb · Guru

I'm going to have her file if I can talk her into it. Then she can call dad and inform him it's already done.

NAOW · Vette's SS

I'm pretty sure that even if they file before her she can still file herself, but only by paper- not efile, and then they will review it. She definitely should.

ed11563 · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
The n husker should stay out of it and let her figure it out on her own.

No, she needs adult guidance and moral support, and he's probably the best one to provide that.

Maybe Czech can too.

Ohfour · Hooker

Lawyerlady wrote:
I think it is nice of Husker to be willing to help her learn. Kids don't just automatically download the answer to life at 18 - they still have lots to learn, and taxes is one of those things.

I agree. And it looks like she didn't and won't get the proper training from her parents...

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Ohfour wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I think it is nice of Husker to be willing to help her learn. Kids don't just automatically download the answer to life at 18 - they still have lots to learn, and taxes is one of those things.
I agree. And it looks like she didn't and won't get the proper training from her parents...

She's lucky her boyfriend's parents are willing to help her.

Tinydancer · Guru

It is nice that he wants to help but in my opinion trying to pit her against her parents isn't right.

ed11563 · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
It is nice that he wants to help but in my opinion trying to pit her against her parents isn't right.

Should I have allowed Spouse's parents to continue to verbally abuse and torment her?

Tinydancer · Guru

ed11563 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
It is nice that he wants to help but in my opinion trying to pit her against her parents isn't right.
Should I have allowed Spouse's parents to continue to verbally abuse and torment her?

I wasn't talking about you. These parents may have made some mistakes but I didn't see anything about verbal abuse and torment. These are her parents and it's wrong (in my opinion) to try to put trouble between them.

Ohfour · Hooker

Tinydancer wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
It is nice that he wants to help but in my opinion trying to pit her against her parents isn't right.
Should I have allowed Spouse's parents to continue to verbally abuse and torment her?

I wasn't talking about you. These parents may have made some mistakes but I didn't see anything about verbal abuse and torment. These are her parents and it's wrong (in my opinion) to try to put trouble between them.

Her parents are criminals and are taking her money. She has the right to stand up for herself...

NAOW · Vette's SS

Tinydancer wrote:
It is nice that he wants to help but in my opinion trying to pit her against her parents isn't right.

I don't think showing her that they are illegally claiming her and advising her how to fix that is pitting her against them. They are pitting themselves against her by using her this way and putting her in this position.

Tinydancer · Guru

I didn't say she didn't but turning her parents into the IRS won't make for a closer family either.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Tinydancer wrote:
I didn't say she didn't but turning her parents into the IRS won't make for a closer family either.

Her parents have no intention of being "close" to their daughter. They are not emotionally or financial supportive of her. They wanted her out of their house as soon as possible, but still want her tax status. That, IMHO, is abuse.

Tinydancer · Guru

Trying to pit family members against each other helps that how?

Ohfour · Hooker

Tinydancer wrote:
I didn't say she didn't but turning her parents into the IRS won't make for a closer family either.

I don't believe Husker was the one that said to turn them in. He wants her to file before they do and their return will be rejected. Then when they ask, she can tell them. Or she can tell them when she files...

She's not doing one thing wrong.

NAOW · Vette's SS

Tinydancer wrote:
I didn't say she didn't but turning her parents into the IRS won't make for a closer family either.

I don't think she should.

She should file and if they file too let the chips fall where they may.

Tinydancer · Guru

She should get her own taxes but turning her parents in as ed suggested is wrong to me.

NAOW · Vette's SS

Tinydancer wrote:
She should get her own taxes but turning her parents in as ed suggested is wrong to me.

I agree.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

NAOW wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
She should get her own taxes but turning her parents in as ed suggested is wrong to me.
I agree.

I agree as well, just file her taxes first and let the chips fall where they may.

TrudyML · Guru

I agree. Get them filed. Let the parents deal if a fall out with the IRS occurs.

Mary Zombie · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
How much support comes from her family? 51% they can claim her.

"Choose better" ringing in anyone else's ears?

0%
The IRS will pay her a 10% bounty, and audit them for the next 7 years, and probably back over the last 3 years.
They won't be pleased.
So you think she should do this to her parents? That seems awfully crappy to me.
A LOT less crappy than calling the insurance company to have them deny a legitimate medical claim and then trying to illegally claim her as a dependent so she then won't have the money to pay the bill, herself.
So you think driving a wedge between this girl and her parents is a good idea?

Um ....her parents are being sh.itty. any wedge is their fault.

Tinydancer · Guru

So she should be like them?

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
So she should be like them?

So....what?

She should let the claim her--which will almost take her tax refund to zero when they spent ZERO on supporting her, not to mention that it's ILLEGAL for them to claim her.

Is that your solution here?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Trudy, tell me if I'm right here? Doesn't almost every single car policy have that rider where if someone who doesn't live with you drives your car they are covered? I know ours does. If you list your child as living at home they are covered but you will pay more for your insurance. But let's say they're visiting from out of town and want to run to the Dairy Queen for a blizzard. If they have an accident they're still covered from what I understand. If that's true then your son's g/f should be able to submit her medical bill to the insurance. If she can submit her bill to the insurance I think I'd leave the tax thing alone because it may wind up biting both parties in the proverbial ass later on.

Tinydancer · Guru

That's not what I said if you'd read my posts. What I did say is that it's a bad idea to turn her parents into the IRS as ed suggested. She can claim her own taxes without trying to get her parents in trouble. If she files first they just won't be able to claim her.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Trudy, tell me if I'm right here? Doesn't almost every single car policy have that rider where if someone who doesn't live with you drives your car they are covered? I know ours does. If you list your child as living at home they are covered but you will pay more for your insurance. But let's say they're visiting from out of town and want to run to the Dairy Queen for a blizzard. If they have an accident they're still covered from what I understand. If that's true then your son's g/f should be able to submit her medical bill to the insurance. If she can submit her bill to the insurance I think I'd leave the tax thing alone because it may wind up biting both parties in the proverbial ass later on.

What??? Who's car? She sure as heck isn't driving her parents' car.

They are doing ZERO to support her in any way--financially or emotionally or in any other conceivable way.

TrudyML · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Trudy, tell me if I'm right here? Doesn't almost every single car policy have that rider where if someone who doesn't live with you drives your car they are covered? I know ours does. If you list your child as living at home they are covered but you will pay more for your insurance. But let's say they're visiting from out of town and want to run to the Dairy Queen for a blizzard. If they have an accident they're still covered from what I understand. If that's true then your son's g/f should be able to submit her medical bill to the insurance. If she can submit her bill to the insurance I think I'd leave the tax thing alone because it may wind up biting both parties in the proverbial ass later on.

Yes, like if cousin Jim moves your car and hits a pole they'll be coverage. In my state you can 'exclude' a driver but the driver must sign the form. I'd submit it. I bet the claim is still open on their books. An injured party? Its open.

I'd file the taxes and let them deal with any fallout. They are lying. She isn't.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
That's not what I said if you'd read my posts. What I did say is that it's a bad idea to turn her parents into the IRS as ed suggested. She can claim her own taxes without trying to get her parents in trouble. If she files first they just won't be able to claim her.

Which is what I said. Not sure what ed has to do with the situation.

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
That's not what I said if you'd read my posts. What I did say is that it's a bad idea to turn her parents into the IRS as ed suggested. She can claim her own taxes without trying to get her parents in trouble. If she files first they just won't be able to claim her.
Which is what I said. Not sure what ed has to do with the situation.

ed said she should claim herself and let her parents claim her too, then report them and collect the reward. It's her taxes but turning her parents in is a bad idea.

huskerbb · Guru

So, you accuse me of trying to drive a "wedge" between her and her parents based on a post ed made. Got it. Dumb.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Trudy, tell me if I'm right here? Doesn't almost every single car policy have that rider where if someone who doesn't live with you drives your car they are covered? I know ours does. If you list your child as living at home they are covered but you will pay more for your insurance. But let's say they're visiting from out of town and want to run to the Dairy Queen for a blizzard. If they have an accident they're still covered from what I understand. If that's true then your son's g/f should be able to submit her medical bill to the insurance. If she can submit her bill to the insurance I think I'd leave the tax thing alone because it may wind up biting both parties in the proverbial ass later on.
What??? Who's car? She sure as heck isn't driving her parents' car.

They are doing ZERO to support her in any way--financially or emotionally or in any other conceivable way.

Sorry, I guess I thought the car was in their name or something. Just based on the insurance thing. I don't know what to tell you about the taxes. If she files her own I would probably tell her to get something notarized saying she hadn't lived with them and that they hadn't supported her in any way over the last year. Sorry. Best help I can give. Take it or leave it

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

TrudyML wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Trudy, tell me if I'm right here? Doesn't almost every single car policy have that rider where if someone who doesn't live with you drives your car they are covered? I know ours does. If you list your child as living at home they are covered but you will pay more for your insurance. But let's say they're visiting from out of town and want to run to the Dairy Queen for a blizzard. If they have an accident they're still covered from what I understand. If that's true then your son's g/f should be able to submit her medical bill to the insurance. If she can submit her bill to the insurance I think I'd leave the tax thing alone because it may wind up biting both parties in the proverbial ass later on.
Yes, like if cousin Jim moves your car and hits a pole they'll be coverage. In my state you can 'exclude' a driver but the driver must sign the form. I'd submit it. I bet the claim is still open on their books. An injured party? Its open.

I'd file the taxes and let them deal with any fallout. They are lying. She isn't.

That's what I thought. Thanks.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Trudy, tell me if I'm right here? Doesn't almost every single car policy have that rider where if someone who doesn't live with you drives your car they are covered? I know ours does. If you list your child as living at home they are covered but you will pay more for your insurance. But let's say they're visiting from out of town and want to run to the Dairy Queen for a blizzard. If they have an accident they're still covered from what I understand. If that's true then your son's g/f should be able to submit her medical bill to the insurance. If she can submit her bill to the insurance I think I'd leave the tax thing alone because it may wind up biting both parties in the proverbial ass later on.
What??? Who's car? She sure as heck isn't driving her parents' car.

They are doing ZERO to support her in any way--financially or emotionally or in any other conceivable way.
Sorry, I guess I thought the car was in their name or something. Just based on the insurance thing. I don't know what to tell you about the taxes. If she files her own I would probably tell her to get something notarized saying she hadn't lived with them and that they hadn't supported her in any way over the last year. Sorry. Best help I can give. Take it or leave it

Oh. No, it's not the car insurance--it's health insurance.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

So they dropped her off their health insurance without telling her? I'm trying to get things straight before I comment.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
So they dropped her off their health insurance without telling her? I'm trying to get things straight before I comment.

No, they told her. They didn't have to do it, though. It wasn't costing them a dime. They also didn't have to call the company and tell them to deny her claim.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
So they dropped her off their health insurance without telling her? I'm trying to get things straight before I comment.
No, they told her. They didn't have to do it, though. It wasn't costing them a dime. They also didn't have to call the company and tell them to deny her claim.

Sorry, that's pretty sh!itty of the parents. I know a lot of people disagree with me but the new law reads that you can keep them on your insurance until they are 26. So it's not breaking the law to keep them on. I know people who say it just runs up health care but it runs it up more when you have uninsured kids running around going to the ER. When our DN moved home we put her on our insurance. She got to be on it a little over a year. It cost us nothing because of the other kids. It was the least we could do. I can't believe her parents would do that to her. You have to be really callous to do that to your own kid.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
So they dropped her off their health insurance without telling her? I'm trying to get things straight before I comment.
No, they told her. They didn't have to do it, though. It wasn't costing them a dime. They also didn't have to call the company and tell them to deny her claim.
Sorry, that's pretty sh!itty of the parents. I know a lot of people disagree with me but the new law reads that you can keep them on your insurance until they are 26. So it's not breaking the law to keep them on. I know people who say it just runs up health care but it runs it up more when you have uninsured kids running around going to the ER. When our DN moved home we put her on our insurance. She got to be on it a little over a year. It cost us nothing because of the other kids. It was the least we could do. I can't believe her parents would do that to her. You have to be really callous to do that to your own kid.

We kept ours on until they go their own insurance. One son joined the army, so at 18, he was done. My older son was 21 before he got his current job which has full benefits.

She just works at a Subway, so of course they don't have benefits.

It wouldn't cost her parents a dime. They are on his work insurance--which is either individual, or family plan. He has the family plan, anyway, since he still has one kid at home.

huskerbb · Guru

One issue has now been solved.

They are coming over tonight with her W-2 and we are going to file her return.

Domestic Engineer · Guru

Maybe gf's parents dropped her from their health insurance because she moved in with a man. You know the whole if your going to play grown up, you can be responsible for all of your own bills.

huskerbb · Guru

One thing we found out is that she actually made too much money last year for her parents to claim her, but since she didn't file, anyway, apparently nothing was ever said.

I think I asked my son last year about it, but since she lived with them for part of the year, I didn't raise a stink--but they shouldn't have claimed her then, either.

huskerbb · Guru

Domestic Engineer wrote:
Maybe gf's parents dropped her from their health insurance because she moved in with a man. You know the whole if your going to play grown up, you can be responsible for all of your own bills.

But then don't claim her on your taxes.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Domestic Engineer wrote:
Maybe gf's parents dropped her from their health insurance because she moved in with a man. You know the whole if your going to play grown up, you can be responsible for all of your own bills.

And if that is how they feel that is perfectly fine. I can even support their feelings on this. Although it sounds more like they were doing it out of spite. But the least they could have done was informed her they were dropping her off their insurance so she could find her own. Or at least be aware that she no longer had insurance. Generally when you make decisions that have a major impact on other people's life you let them know.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

huskerbb wrote:
Domestic Engineer wrote:
Maybe gf's parents dropped her from their health insurance because she moved in with a man. You know the whole if your going to play grown up, you can be responsible for all of your own bills.
But then don't claim her on your taxes.

I have to agree with this. You can't play both sides of a coin.

huskerbb · Guru

If I really wanted to be a dick, I could make her bring last year's W-2, file a return for last year, and then her dad would have to amend his return.

She wouldn't have to "prove" a damn thing since her W-2 would show she was above the income guidelines.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
One issue has now been solved.

They are coming over tonight with her W-2 and we are going to file her return.

One problem solved! TG

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
If I really wanted to be a dick, I could make her bring last year's W-2, file a return for last year, and then her dad would have to amend his return.

She wouldn't have to "prove" a damn thing since her W-2 would show she was above the income guidelines.

Oh come on, be THE dick. lol

Mary Zombie · Guru

I think you should be a Dick too.

ed11563 · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
If I really wanted to be a dick, I could make her bring last year's W-2, file a return for last year, and then her dad would have to amend his return.

She wouldn't have to "prove" a damn thing since her W-2 would show she was above the income guidelines.

So why didn't she file last year? If she's over the guideline, didn't she have to file?