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Dear Prudence,
My younger sister confided in me that she is pregnant. She wants me to take her in for an abortion, without telling our parents. In our state, minors don’t need parental consent, but I love my parents and would rather not betray them like this. They are Republicans (so am I, but I don’t think that anyone should be forced to have a baby). If we did this, and then our parents somehow found out, I’m not sure they’d ever forgive me. Should I go behind their backs on this?

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Take your sister. If you were reluctant to take your sister due to a strong personal stance against abortion, or if she were asking you to do something illegal, I might have a different answer. But the only thing keeping you from supporting her is the fear that your parents would be angry if they knew about it. That’s not a good reason not to help her. Her decision to get an abortion is not a betrayal of your mother and father, and it isn’t something she is doing to or at them. It may be a choice they dislike, but it was never theirs to begin with. Take your sister. Honor her confidence in you.



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I don't like this new Prudie.

And I do not think minors should be able to get abortions without their parents knowing unless a judge oks it for reasons like abuse.

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Wow! No way.

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The new Prudie is a moron. She's the everyone gets a trophy type, lol.

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I don't think a minor should have ANY procedure without parental consent.

Including abortion.



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She was old enough to get herself pregnant.

She can figure out how to deal with it, without dragging her sister into it.

She might try asking the guy who got her pregnant for a ride.

(I don't care for the new Prudie much, either.)



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I don't like this new Prudie.

And I do not think minors should be able to get abortions without their parents knowing unless a judge oks it for reasons like abuse.


 I don't dislike her generally, but every time there is a thread about children, she thinks like a kid because she is one, and not like a parent because she isn't one.  

Her political views sometimes really cloud her judgment, too. 



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First of all, how did she get pregnant? There is possibly a crime here. Who knows? And, no, you can't take a pill without a parent's consent so surgery and anesthesia? Um no. ANd, sorry, some things in life are difficult issues to deal with. The sisters dont' KNOW how the parents will respond. And, the younger sister is scared out of her mind so how can big sis think abortion is the best thing for her? She isn't her parent. Sorry you got in this situation but now you need to man up and go tell your parents and deal with it in the real world.

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I don't think a minor should have ANY procedure without parental consent.

Including abortion.


 Kids can't even decide for themselves to take an aspirin in school, and yet invasive surgery they can decide on without ant parental involvement?  Stupid.



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Yep.

I'd be pissed and seeing red if my under age child was allowed to go through any medical procedure without my permission.

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Well, how do people ever expect to live life for real? Some issues in life are difficult. So what? You stand together and face them. Geez.

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Well, how do people ever expect to live life for real? Some issues in life are difficult. So what? You stand together and face them. Geez.


 Sure.  NO teenager ever wants to tell their parents they are pregnant.  Usually, however, it works out ok after some initial shock and probably some anger.

 

the fact is, we don't know what they would say.  More than a few people's moral resolve crumbled when they were faced with a given situation.



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Age of medical consent is 14 where I live.

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weltschmerz wrote:

Age of medical consent is 14 where I live.


 It's not in the U.S.



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weltschmerz wrote:

Age of medical consent is 14 where I live.


 Doesn't really matter here, does it?

 



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If the sister was comfortable, then yes. But she's not.

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I would actually help my sister if this happened. Shoot, I'd help a niece. And we'd be having a long talk, too. My siblings know their kids come to cool auntie trude.

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TrudyML wrote:

I would actually help my sister if this happened. Shoot, I'd help a niece. And we'd be having a long talk, too. My siblings know their kids come to cool auntie trude.


 That's VERY important.

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Oh, it wouldn't be pleasant. Trust me. I had one niece I had to given a stern chat too. It wasn't on this subject, but driving. My brother knew it happened. And was happy.

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Oh, it wouldn't be pleasant. Trust me. I had one niece I had to given a stern chat too. It wasn't on this subject, but driving. My brother knew it happened. And was happy.


 Good for you!

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She knew it is worse to get my yelling at.

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Hell, clients sent their kids to me. Just had one about an hour ago. "Go in and see Trudy" This kid got quite the yelling after flipping a car. Mom knew he'd hate the talk. He squirmed and looked down. I said put the pot down and stop driving. Yep, young man I know pot exists! I could smell it on him.

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There is a VAST difference between "helping" and deliberately going behind a parents back on a big issue. That is decidedly NOT helping.

If you mean you would talk to them and get them to tell their parents, then fine.

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If I found out anyone helped my underage child have a medical procedure without my knowledge or permission, excluding life saving needs, I'd probably be their worst nightmare.



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lilyofcourse wrote:

If I found out anyone helped my underage child have a medical procedure without my knowledge or permission, excluding life saving needs, I'd probably be their worst nightmare.


 They'd be needing a procedure or two, themselves.



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lilyofcourse wrote:

If I found out anyone helped my underage child have a medical procedure without my knowledge or permission, excluding life saving needs, I'd probably be their worst nightmare.


 They'd be needing a procedure or two, themselves.


Absolutely... 



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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Age of medical consent is 14 where I live.


 Doesn't really matter here, does it?

 


 Of course it does because Canada obviously is smarter and better about their laws than we are.  confuse



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:

Age of medical consent is 14 where I live.


 Doesn't really matter here, does it?

 


 Of course it does because Canada obviously is smarter and better about their laws than we are.  confuse


All I did was state a fact, but you have to get your nasty little digs in. 

Carry on.



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weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:

Age of medical consent is 14 where I live.


 Doesn't really matter here, does it?

 


 Of course it does because Canada obviously is smarter and better about their laws than we are.  confuse


All I did was state a fact, but you have to get your nasty little digs in. 

Carry on.


 OK?  See what i mean about playing Victim that you claim you don't do?  Sure.  confuse



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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Age of medical consent is 14 where I live.


 Doesn't really matter here, does it?

 


 Of course it does because Canada obviously is smarter and better about their laws than we are.  confuse


All I did was state a fact, but you have to get your nasty little digs in. 

Carry on.


 OK?  See what i mean about playing Victim that you claim you don't do?  Sure.  confuse


No. I stated a FACT, and you had to get nasty and snarky. 

Nothing to do with being a victim.  



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Um, yeah. Ok. 

 

  But, letting a 14 yr old consent to surgery without a parent is assinine.



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You spelled asinine wrong. Another fact.

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You spelled asinine wrong. Another fact.


 You are being MEAN TO ME!!!!!  Wah!!

 So correcting someone's spelling isn't snark?  I see.  I guess you get to define it.

 



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She probably spelled it like she meant to spell it....

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You spelled asinine wrong. Another fact.


 You are being MEAN TO ME!!!!!  Wah!!

 So correcting someone's spelling isn't snark?  I see.  I guess you get to define it.

 



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I don't like this new Prudence at all. To young, to immature, not enough life experiences and woefully ignorant, IMHO.

If my DD took her younger sister without our knowledge, there would be hell to pay.

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huskerbb wrote:

She probably spelled it like she meant to spell it....


 That's what I was thinking.



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I think if you (general) you aren't mature enough to face your parents with this (barring abuse obviously) then you probably aren't mature enough to handle this procedure on your own. She is asking her sister because she needs that kind of family support, so she would probably much rather have her parents support but she just doesn't know how to tell them. I think the sister should encourage her to tell the parents and help her do that.

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lilyofcourse wrote:
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She probably spelled it like she meant to spell it....


 That's what I was thinking.


 Jeez, some people just do not understand sarcasm...



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But, her parents are not going to support her intm the decision she has made.
And I know if my sister came to me with any sort of dilema, including this one, I would do it, and not rat her out to my parents, and I would not think twice about it. She is my SISTER. Shame on LW for even needing to ask this question.

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That's the difference between a child and a parent.

Once you become a parent, you no longer think like a child.

And I don't mean a little kid.

I mean you understand better what it means to be fully responsible for another.



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huskerbb wrote:
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I don't think a minor should have ANY procedure without parental consent.

Including abortion.


 Kids can't even decide for themselves to take an aspirin in school, and yet invasive surgery they can decide on without ant parental involvement?  Stupid.


 An abortion isn't surgery, it's a procedure and minor at that.  But I understand and agree with your point.



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But, her parents are not going to support her intm the decision she has made.
And I know if my sister came to me with any sort of dilema, including this one, I would do it, and not rat her out to my parents, and I would not think twice about it. She is my SISTER. Shame on LW for even needing to ask this question.


 I would tell our parents immediately.  And I would tell her you're welcome when she thanked me for not letting her slaughter her child.



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Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:

But, her parents are not going to support her intm the decision she has made.
And I know if my sister came to me with any sort of dilema, including this one, I would do it, and not rat her out to my parents, and I would not think twice about it. She is my SISTER. Shame on LW for even needing to ask this question.


Sorry, Dona. I disagree.

Shame on the little sister, for putting Big sister, on the spot.

Asking Big sister, to help her do something against her morals.

And, against her parents morals.

Little sister should ask Big sister for help, telling her parents about this.

And figure it out, from there.

Not ask Big Sister to help, to kill her future niece/nephew.

That's just sad.cry

JMHO.

 

 



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I don't think a minor should have ANY procedure without parental consent.

Including abortion.


 Kids can't even decide for themselves to take an aspirin in school, and yet invasive surgery they can decide on without ant parental involvement?  Stupid.


 An abortion isn't surgery, it's a procedure and minor at that.  But I understand and agree with your point.


 Any time you are put to sleep is surgery to me....



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But, her parents are not going to support her intm the decision she has made.
And I know if my sister came to me with any sort of dilema, including this one, I would do it, and not rat her out to my parents, and I would not think twice about it. She is my SISTER. Shame on LW for even needing to ask this question.


 And you would do this because you are young and do not think the consequences through.  most of had those same tendencies when we were very young and didn't know life well but thought we did.  It is NOT your place, you are NOT the parent.  You have to understand that, you will one day and you will remember this thread and your statement and think to yourself "oh how wrong was I?".



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I don't think a minor should have ANY procedure without parental consent.

Including abortion.


 Kids can't even decide for themselves to take an aspirin in school, and yet invasive surgery they can decide on without ant parental involvement?  Stupid.


 An abortion isn't surgery, it's a procedure and minor at that.  But I understand and agree with your point.


 Any time you are put to sleep is surgery to me....


 You aren't put to sleep during a D&C and that is the same procedure as an abortion.



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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
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lilyofcourse wrote:

I don't think a minor should have ANY procedure without parental consent.

Including abortion.


 Kids can't even decide for themselves to take an aspirin in school, and yet invasive surgery they can decide on without ant parental involvement?  Stupid.


 An abortion isn't surgery, it's a procedure and minor at that.  But I understand and agree with your point.


 Any time you are put to sleep is surgery to me....


 You aren't put to sleep during a D&C and that is the same procedure as an abortion.


 Bunk. I was put to sleep for a D&C after a miscarriage.

Out like a light.



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you all had better doctors then I did!

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