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Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

RE: Should she take her minor sister for an abortion?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

And yes, we can EXPECT things of others. We expect people to follow the rules of the road when they drive. We expect people not to rob banks. We expect people to work for a living (well, we SHOULD).

Get rid of the expectation, and you remove most of the incentive.
Yet very few people observe the speed limit, use their turn signals, or their lights on a dark morning, which is different from robbing a bank.
flan
"Very few"? I call BS. Especially since most cars now have automatic lights.

You can call whatever you want. It happened yesterday & twice last week. (I'm due in at 8:30.) I have a 30-minute commute, half on interstate & half on a two-lane road. I would estimate I saw at least 20 cars with NO lights on.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???

You...with your logic!!!

Are you new here?!

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

And yes, we can EXPECT things of others. We expect people to follow the rules of the road when they drive. We expect people not to rob banks. We expect people to work for a living (well, we SHOULD).

Get rid of the expectation, and you remove most of the incentive.
Yet very few people observe the speed limit, use their turn signals, or their lights on a dark morning, which is different from robbing a bank.
flan
"Very few"? I call BS. Especially since most cars now have automatic lights.
And there are penalties for those things if you get caught. But yes, let's compare failing to signal with making a baby. The ridiculous logic boggles the mind.

Except you were the one who used the analogy.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Look.

The continuous arguing over abortion would stop if women would take their reproductive rights and health seriously BEFORE they pregnant.

Ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Does anyone expect that to happen?

Not if there is no expectation of it. You have to actually EXPECT it to happen and make it a priority.
Dream on.
Well, attitudes like yours certainly aren't working.
His attitude is realistic. No one can control how another person parents.
flan
You can give people reasonable options for BC and expect that they use it or abstain if they are not ready to be a parent. And you can expect people to be responsible for their choices. You talk about choice? The first choice people make that leads to unwanted pregnancy is to have sex without proper precations.
Yet how many people think: "It won't happen to me?"
flan
The hopelessly ignorant ones...The very ones that should not be having sex because they are so stupid.

And how does one stop them from having sex?

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
You...with your logic!!!
Are you new here?!
flan

It's not the responsibility of the schools. It's the responsibility of the parents. And if my child cannot take an aspirin without a friggin act of congress, they sure as hell better not be taking birth control without my permission.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

And yes, we can EXPECT things of others. We expect people to follow the rules of the road when they drive. We expect people not to rob banks. We expect people to work for a living (well, we SHOULD).

Get rid of the expectation, and you remove most of the incentive.
Yet very few people observe the speed limit, use their turn signals, or their lights on a dark morning, which is different from robbing a bank.
flan
"Very few"? I call BS. Especially since most cars now have automatic lights.
You can call whatever you want. It happened yesterday & twice last week. (I'm due in at 8:30.) I have a 30-minute commute, half on interstate & half on a two-lane road. I would estimate I saw at least 20 cars with NO lights on.
flan

20 cars out of MILLIONS of cars in the U.S. Is the "very few", not the other way around.

huskerbb · Guru

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???

Birth control is available at every gas station and drug store in the U.S.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

And yes, we can EXPECT things of others. We expect people to follow the rules of the road when they drive. We expect people not to rob banks. We expect people to work for a living (well, we SHOULD).

Get rid of the expectation, and you remove most of the incentive.
Yet very few people observe the speed limit, use their turn signals, or their lights on a dark morning, which is different from robbing a bank.
flan
"Very few"? I call BS. Especially since most cars now have automatic lights.
You can call whatever you want. It happened yesterday & twice last week. (I'm due in at 8:30.) I have a 30-minute commute, half on interstate & half on a two-lane road. I would estimate I saw at least 20 cars with NO lights on.
flan
20 cars out of MILLIONS of cars in the U.S. Is the "very few", not the other way around.

Okay, show me the stats. Indy is not exactly the backwoods...

And we ALL speak from our experience. I'm not the one claiming to know everything about all cars in the country.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
Birth control is available at every gas station and drug store in the U.S.

Here we go again...You have personally been to EVERY gas station and drug store in the U.S.?

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
Birth control is available at every gas station and drug store in the U.S.
Here we go again...You have personally been to EVERY gas station and drug store in the U.S.?
flan

This might, quite possibly, be one of the silliest responses I've ever seen.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???

No. They absolutely DO NOT. What they say is that ALL forms of birth control need to be taught, including abstinence. I'm not aware of ONE SINGLE PERSON that doesn't believe in sex ed.

And FREE birth control is not a right. If you can't afford it, you certainly can't afford a child - so DON'T HAVE SEX.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
Birth control is available at every gas station and drug store in the U.S.
Here we go again...You have personally been to EVERY gas station and drug store in the U.S.?
flan

I've never been to one that hasn't had birth control. Most bars, too.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
Birth control is available at every gas station and drug store in the U.S.
Here we go again...You have personally been to EVERY gas station and drug store in the U.S.?
flan
This might, quite possibly, be one of the silliest responses I've ever seen.

Yeah. she sees 20 cars without their lights on and "very few" do. She goes in to one gas station that doesn't have condoms and none of them do. Absurd.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
Birth control is available at every gas station and drug store in the U.S.
Here we go again...You have personally been to EVERY gas station and drug store in the U.S.?
flan
I've never been to one that hasn't had birth control. Most bars, too.

Nobody has. This isn't 1910.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
Birth control is available at every gas station and drug store in the U.S.
Here we go again...You have personally been to EVERY gas station and drug store in the U.S.?
flan
This might, quite possibly, be one of the silliest responses I've ever seen.
Yeah. she sees 20 cars without their lights on and "very few" do. She goes in to one gas station that doesn't have condoms and none of them do. Absurd.

I'm willing to bet she's never been in a gas station that doesn't have condoms, either. She likely just didn't look.

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
No. They absolutely DO NOT. What they say is that ALL forms of birth control need to be taught, including abstinence. I'm not aware of ONE SINGLE PERSON that doesn't believe in sex ed.

And FREE birth control is not a right. If you can't afford it, you certainly can't afford a child - so DON'T HAVE SEX.

Whenever sex ed is brought up, people generally snipe about how kids need to be taught not to have sex. Which DOES NOT WORK.

And free birth control would be MUCH cheaper than single mothers--or whole families-- on welfare. It is a more realistic option than telling people not to have sex because THAT DOES NOT WORK.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
No. They absolutely DO NOT. What they say is that ALL forms of birth control need to be taught, including abstinence. I'm not aware of ONE SINGLE PERSON that doesn't believe in sex ed.

And FREE birth control is not a right. If you can't afford it, you certainly can't afford a child - so DON'T HAVE SEX.
Whenever sex ed is brought up, people generally snipe about how kids need to be taught not to have sex. Which DOES NOT WORK.
And free birth control would be MUCH cheaper than single mothers--or whole families-- on welfare. It is a more realistic option than telling people not to have sex because THAT DOES NOT WORK.

Yes, it actually does. I realize it did not for you. But, based upon polls of high school students, the majority of kids under 18 ARE NOT HAVING SEX. And teaching abstinence is the most valid form of birth control, but endorsing that does NOT mean not teaching them about the others. It's not either/or.

Ohfour · Hooker

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
No. They absolutely DO NOT. What they say is that ALL forms of birth control need to be taught, including abstinence. I'm not aware of ONE SINGLE PERSON that doesn't believe in sex ed.

And FREE birth control is not a right. If you can't afford it, you certainly can't afford a child - so DON'T HAVE SEX.
Whenever sex ed is brought up, people generally snipe about how kids need to be taught not to have sex. Which DOES NOT WORK.
And free birth control would be MUCH cheaper than single mothers--or whole families-- on welfare. It is a more realistic option than telling people not to have sex because THAT DOES NOT WORK.

I know a LOT of people that waited until they were married to have sex. So, um, yeah, it DOES work...

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

How does teaching responsibility not work?

How about teaching kids NOT to have sex before they graduate from high school. I don't buy the cRap about "oh, I couldn't help myself" BS. Yes, you can control yourself. Only stupid people can't control themselves. It's called being responsible for your own behavior, so stop with the victim cRap.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???

I have never "howled" against sex ed and was in fact instrumental in reinstating it in my school. Soooo, nice try. confuse

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Free birth control is like free anything. When we give people FREE stuff do they respect it? Do they work harder? Does free stuff make for better people? Hell no. Free govt freebies promotes the WORST in people. Free birth control will do the same thing. It will promote sexual promiscuity and irresponsibility and lack of respect for sexual morality. So, nice try.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
No. They absolutely DO NOT. What they say is that ALL forms of birth control need to be taught, including abstinence. I'm not aware of ONE SINGLE PERSON that doesn't believe in sex ed.

And FREE birth control is not a right. If you can't afford it, you certainly can't afford a child - so DON'T HAVE SEX.
Whenever sex ed is brought up, people generally snipe about how kids need to be taught not to have sex. Which DOES NOT WORK.
And free birth control would be MUCH cheaper than single mothers--or whole families-- on welfare. It is a more realistic option than telling people not to have sex because THAT DOES NOT WORK.
I know a LOT of people that waited until they were married to have sex. So, um, yeah, it DOES work...

I don't. So what?

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
Birth control is available at every gas station and drug store in the U.S.
Here we go again...You have personally been to EVERY gas station and drug store in the U.S.?
flan
This might, quite possibly, be one of the silliest responses I've ever seen.

husker gave his opinion and presented it as a FACT.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Free birth control is like free anything. When we give people FREE stuff do they respect it? Do they work harder? Does free stuff make for better people? Hell no. Free govt freebies promotes the WORST in people. Free birth control will do the same thing. It will promote sexual promiscuity and irresponsibility and lack of respect for sexual morality. So, nice try.

Free BC = less babies.

Makes sense to me.

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
Birth control is available at every gas station and drug store in the U.S.
Here we go again...You have personally been to EVERY gas station and drug store in the U.S.?
flan
This might, quite possibly, be one of the silliest responses I've ever seen.
husker gave his opinion and presented it as a FACT.
flan

Oh FFS. Gas stations have condoms. Just because you can find one that may not--doesn't mean it's not generally a true statement. An infinitesimally small number of exceptions doesn't mean that gas stations don't have condoms. They do.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Free birth control is like free anything. When we give people FREE stuff do they respect it? Do they work harder? Does free stuff make for better people? Hell no. Free govt freebies promotes the WORST in people. Free birth control will do the same thing. It will promote sexual promiscuity and irresponsibility and lack of respect for sexual morality. So, nice try.
Free BC = less babies.
Makes sense to me.
flan

No it doesn't flan. It encourages more sexual activity. And, teens are stupid and they "forget" or they dont' bother or whatever. Promiscous people are going to have more STDs, abortions, accidental pregnancies and whatever. Get REAL and try re reading the point i just made.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Free birth control is like free anything. When we give people FREE stuff do they respect it? Do they work harder? Does free stuff make for better people? Hell no. Free govt freebies promotes the WORST in people. Free birth control will do the same thing. It will promote sexual promiscuity and irresponsibility and lack of respect for sexual morality. So, nice try.
Free BC = less babies.
Makes sense to me.
flan

Not to me. Our birth rates are already getting to be below replacement levels.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, we have aborted 57 MILLION Americans, which is why we all of the sudden "need" to import illegals. And, why Europe is no longer self sustaining. We have slit our own throats and soon our cultures will be extinct.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

China has eliminated the "One Child" policy, that should tell us something. The men are forced to find wives out of country, due to the shortage of available Chinese women.

You would think the west would learn from that problem.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Look.

The continuous arguing over abortion would stop if women would take their reproductive rights and health seriously BEFORE they pregnant.

Ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
- lilyofcourse

______________________________

Many more would if Planned Parenthood centers wouldn't keep getting closed.

WYSIWYG · Guru

It's not the responsibility of the schools. It's the responsibility of the parents. And if my child cannot take an aspirin without a friggin act of congress, they sure as hell better not be taking birth control without my permission.
- Ohfour

_____________________________

And it's a responsibility that, unfortunately, too many parents fail at.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Yes, it actually does. I realize it did not for you. But, based upon polls of high school students, the majority of kids under 18 ARE NOT HAVING SEX. And teaching abstinence is the most valid form of birth control, but endorsing that does NOT mean not teaching them about the others. It's not either/or.
- Lawyerlady

_______________________________

To a great many, it does. Remember the "Abstinence Only" Executive Order by President Bush?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

WYSIWYG wrote:
Look.

The continuous arguing over abortion would stop if women would take their reproductive rights and health seriously BEFORE they pregnant.

Ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
- lilyofcourse

______________________________

Many more would if Planned Parenthood centers wouldn't keep getting closed.

My experience with PP, is abort first, ask questions later.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

You went to ONE PP center, I presume?

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
Birth control is available at every gas station and drug store in the U.S.
Here we go again...You have personally been to EVERY gas station and drug store in the U.S.?
flan
This might, quite possibly, be one of the silliest responses I've ever seen.
husker gave his opinion and presented it as a FACT.
flan

It is a fact, flan. I challenge you to find ONE gas station that doesn't sell condoms or have a condom machine. And drug stores? Really? Find ONE drug store that doesn't sell birth control.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Why should I? I'm NOT the one who made the initial statement.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Why should I? I'm NOT the one who made the initial statement.

flan

The initial statement makes sense. Your denial and statement that he is wrong do not.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Why should I? I'm NOT the one who made the initial statement.

flan
The initial statement makes sense. Your denial and statement that he is wrong do not.

Obviously we have differing opinions...

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Why should I? I'm NOT the one who made the initial statement.

flan
The initial statement makes sense. Your denial and statement that he is wrong do not.
Obviously we have differing opinions...
flan

The problem is that you have trouble differentiating between opinion and fact. You try to claim facts are simply opinions when you don't like them or just want to be argumentative. It's childish.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Why should I? I'm NOT the one who made the initial statement.

flan
The initial statement makes sense. Your denial and statement that he is wrong do not.
Obviously we have differing opinions...
flan
The problem is that you have trouble differentiating between opinion and fact. You try to claim facts are simply opinions when you don't like them or just want to be argumentative. It's childish.

Thank you ever so much...

Facts can be proven.

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Why should I? I'm NOT the one who made the initial statement.

flan

The initial statement is correct. Your denials of it are absurd.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Why should I? I'm NOT the one who made the initial statement.

flan
The initial statement is correct. Your denials of it are absurd.

Because you said so?

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Why should I? I'm NOT the one who made the initial statement.

flan
The initial statement is correct. Your denials of it are absurd.
Because you said so?
flan

Because it's a FACT.

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
No. They absolutely DO NOT. What they say is that ALL forms of birth control need to be taught, including abstinence. I'm not aware of ONE SINGLE PERSON that doesn't believe in sex ed.

And FREE birth control is not a right. If you can't afford it, you certainly can't afford a child - so DON'T HAVE SEX.
Whenever sex ed is brought up, people generally snipe about how kids need to be taught not to have sex. Which DOES NOT WORK.
And free birth control would be MUCH cheaper than single mothers--or whole families-- on welfare. It is a more realistic option than telling people not to have sex because THAT DOES NOT WORK.
I know a LOT of people that waited until they were married to have sex. So, um, yeah, it DOES work...

I don't know a single one.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
No. They absolutely DO NOT. What they say is that ALL forms of birth control need to be taught, including abstinence. I'm not aware of ONE SINGLE PERSON that doesn't believe in sex ed.

And FREE birth control is not a right. If you can't afford it, you certainly can't afford a child - so DON'T HAVE SEX.
Whenever sex ed is brought up, people generally snipe about how kids need to be taught not to have sex. Which DOES NOT WORK.
And free birth control would be MUCH cheaper than single mothers--or whole families-- on welfare. It is a more realistic option than telling people not to have sex because THAT DOES NOT WORK.
I know a LOT of people that waited until they were married to have sex. So, um, yeah, it DOES work...
I don't know a single one.

That doesnt surprise me with the circle you run with...

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
No. They absolutely DO NOT. What they say is that ALL forms of birth control need to be taught, including abstinence. I'm not aware of ONE SINGLE PERSON that doesn't believe in sex ed.

And FREE birth control is not a right. If you can't afford it, you certainly can't afford a child - so DON'T HAVE SEX.
Whenever sex ed is brought up, people generally snipe about how kids need to be taught not to have sex. Which DOES NOT WORK.
And free birth control would be MUCH cheaper than single mothers--or whole families-- on welfare. It is a more realistic option than telling people not to have sex because THAT DOES NOT WORK.
I know a LOT of people that waited until they were married to have sex. So, um, yeah, it DOES work...
I don't know a single one.
That doesnt surprise me with the circle you run with...

Was that supposed to be a dig?

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Saturday 6th of February 2016 04:16:53 PM

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
No. They absolutely DO NOT. What they say is that ALL forms of birth control need to be taught, including abstinence. I'm not aware of ONE SINGLE PERSON that doesn't believe in sex ed.

And FREE birth control is not a right. If you can't afford it, you certainly can't afford a child - so DON'T HAVE SEX.
Whenever sex ed is brought up, people generally snipe about how kids need to be taught not to have sex. Which DOES NOT WORK.
And free birth control would be MUCH cheaper than single mothers--or whole families-- on welfare. It is a more realistic option than telling people not to have sex because THAT DOES NOT WORK.
I know a LOT of people that waited until they were married to have sex. So, um, yeah, it DOES work...
I don't know a single one.
That doesnt surprise me with the circle you run with...
Was that supposed to be a dig?

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Saturday 6th of February 2016 04:16:53 PM

Read like an insult to me.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Why should I? I'm NOT the one who made the initial statement.

flan
The initial statement is correct. Your denials of it are absurd.
Because you said so?
flan
Because it's a FACT.

Facts can be proven.

flan

weltschmerz · Guru

flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
This is laughable. Whenever a conversation about better sex ed in schools comes up, people rabidly howl against it. When the possibility of free birth control is discussed, people whine about personal responsibility.
But, ohhh nooo, we can't have abortion either.
WELL. Maybe if there was comprehensive sex ed in schools and birth control was free and available everywhere. . . JUST MAYBE you would get you wish of fewer abortions! How about that???
No. They absolutely DO NOT. What they say is that ALL forms of birth control need to be taught, including abstinence. I'm not aware of ONE SINGLE PERSON that doesn't believe in sex ed.

And FREE birth control is not a right. If you can't afford it, you certainly can't afford a child - so DON'T HAVE SEX.
Whenever sex ed is brought up, people generally snipe about how kids need to be taught not to have sex. Which DOES NOT WORK.
And free birth control would be MUCH cheaper than single mothers--or whole families-- on welfare. It is a more realistic option than telling people not to have sex because THAT DOES NOT WORK.
I know a LOT of people that waited until they were married to have sex. So, um, yeah, it DOES work...
I don't know a single one.
That doesnt surprise me with the circle you run with...
Was that supposed to be a dig?

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Saturday 6th of February 2016 04:16:53 PM
Read like an insult to me.
flan

Of course it was. She didn't learn much from her ban, did she?