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ed11563 · Guru

Help! The Nanny Told Us She’s HIV-Positive. Should She Still Care for Our Kids

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I wouldn't keep her.

weltschmerz · Guru

I would.
Ignorance is no reason to get rid of a perfectly good nanny. She's not having sex with the children.
It's safe.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Your kid.

I wouldn't play Russian roulette with kid's health like that.

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Your kid.

I wouldn't play Russian roulette with kid's health like that.

I'd be fine with it because I know it can't be spread through casual contact. She's been their nanny for the last year.

Are the kids at death's door?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I would have a problem with the fact that she didn't disclose it to begin with.

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Your kid.

I wouldn't play Russian roulette with kid's health like that.

I'd be fine with it because I know it can't be spread through casual contact. She's been their nanny for the last year.
Are the kids at death's door?

But what's "casual" contact. No, she isn't going to have sex with them--but she's going to do a LOT more than shake hands or brush up against them in a crowded room.

Where's there are kids--there is blood. The risk may be low--it may be VERY low--but it isn't non-existent.

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Your kid.

I wouldn't play Russian roulette with kid's health like that.

I'd be fine with it because I know it can't be spread through casual contact. She's been their nanny for the last year.
Are the kids at death's door?
But what's "casual" contact. No, she isn't going to have sex with them--but she's going to do a LOT more than shake hands or brush up against them in a crowded room.
Where's there are kids--there is blood. The risk may be low--it may be VERY low--but it isn't non-existent.

OK. You'll do what's right for you and I'll do what's right for me.

She has more to worry about, catching something from the kids than the kids catching something from her.

I'd keep her, especially if she's a great nanny and the kids adore her.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

People want flip out over chicken pox but have no issue with HIV.

Crazy.

Bonny22Pye · Guru

I don't think she has to tell her employer her medical history period. Their is nothing wrong or dangerous about interacting with someone who is HIV positive in normal daily activities.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Would you fire a nanny if you found out she was an anti-vaccer and never got vaccinated?

Bonny22Pye · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Would you fire a nanny if you found out she was an anti-vaccer and never got vaccinated?

Luckily its a non issue for me since Gordito goes to a daycare the mandates vaccines. But if California law prohibited me from requiring vaccinations as part of employing a nanny I wouldn't use one to start.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Bonny22Pye wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Would you fire a nanny if you found out she was an anti-vaccer and never got vaccinated?
Luckily its a non issue for me since Gordito goes to a daycare the mandates vaccines. But if California law prohibited me from requiring vaccinations as part of employing a nanny I wouldn't use one to start.

But that's part of her medical history.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And it doesn't really answer the question either.

Bonny22Pye · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Would you fire a nanny if you found out she was an anti-vaccer and never got vaccinated?
Luckily its a non issue for me since Gordito goes to a daycare the mandates vaccines. But if California law prohibited me from requiring vaccinations as part of employing a nanny I wouldn't use one to start.
But that's part of her medical history.

Some jobs require some medical stuff. HIV disclosure is not on the list.

Also, you can't get HIV from being in the same room with someone or sharing a cup of coffee with them like you can with Chicken Pox.

If she legally could ask her to disclose of certain medical things I may be ok with it.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

You never had your baby raise up into your chin? Making you bite your tongue or lip?

Never stepped on something and cut yourself?

Never broken a glass or done anything else that causes you to bleed?

Cause all that happened at one time or another to me.

And kids don't always stop when tell them to.

I would not knowingly expose my kids to that threat.

Bonny22Pye · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
You never had your baby raise up into your chin? Making you bite your tongue or lip?

Never stepped on something and cut yourself?

Never broken a glass or done anything else that causes you to bleed?

Cause all that happened at one time or another to me.

And kids don't always stop when tell them to.

I would not knowingly expose my kids to that threat.

I've never bled on my kid and he's two unless you count birth.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Bonny22Pye wrote:
I don't think she has to tell her employer her medical history period. Their is nothing wrong or dangerous about interacting with someone who is HIV positive in normal daily activities.

You are totally disregarding that the babysitter is unreliable due to her medical condition, As the disease progresses she will be calling in sick more and more ofter.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Would you fire a nanny if you found out she was an anti-vaccer and never got vaccinated?
Luckily its a non issue for me since Gordito goes to a daycare the mandates vaccines. But if California law prohibited me from requiring vaccinations as part of employing a nanny I wouldn't use one to start.
But that's part of her medical history.

Yeah. Exactly. You want the medical history when it suits you--but think it should be secret when you think it doesn't? That's bull.

huskerbb · Guru

Bonny22Pye wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Would you fire a nanny if you found out she was an anti-vaccer and never got vaccinated?
Luckily its a non issue for me since Gordito goes to a daycare the mandates vaccines. But if California law prohibited me from requiring vaccinations as part of employing a nanny I wouldn't use one to start.
But that's part of her medical history.
Some jobs require some medical stuff. HIV disclosure is not on the list.
Also, you can't get HIV from being in the same room with someone or sharing a cup of coffee with them like you can with Chicken Pox.
If she legally could ask her to disclose of certain medical things I may be ok with it.

Chicken Pox is almost never fatal. It is also cheaper to treat since, well, you don't really treat it other than letting the kid stay in bed a few days and eat soup.

FNW · Guru

I cook. And that involves using knives and sharp objects. Sometimes I get cut. If I hired a nanny, she would be doing some of these things. Including kitchen work, fixing lunches, etc. No way in hell I would want someone inadvertently bleeding HIV on my kids. Sure, it would need to come in contact with an open wound, but you know what, kids have open wounds. Usually every day there is a cut or scrape somewhere on the boys' bodies. Whether it be a papercut, a scraped knee, a torn cuticle, or a split lip. I'd rather not take the risk with my children's lives.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You can employ whomever u want to employ.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You can employ whomever u want to employ.

And fire whomever you don't want to employ any longer.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

There has been no problem in the year that she's worked for them.

I can't remember ever bleeding on either of my kids.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

There are a lot of things that are not a problem until they are. But what about when an accident does occur? Then it could be too late.

Bonny22Pye · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Would you fire a nanny if you found out she was an anti-vaccer and never got vaccinated?
Luckily its a non issue for me since Gordito goes to a daycare the mandates vaccines. But if California law prohibited me from requiring vaccinations as part of employing a nanny I wouldn't use one to start.
But that's part of her medical history.
Some jobs require some medical stuff. HIV disclosure is not on the list.
Also, you can't get HIV from being in the same room with someone or sharing a cup of coffee with them like you can with Chicken Pox.
If she legally could ask her to disclose of certain medical things I may be ok with it.
Chicken Pox is almost never fatal. It is also cheaper to treat since, well, you don't really treat it other than letting the kid stay in bed a few days and eat soup.

I was hospitalized over chicken pox. I had it 3 times as a child. It can be very serious for some people.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, again if you give out this information, then do you expect people to react to it or not? What do you think will happen if you run around broadcasting that you have HIV or whatever? So, she had no obligation to reveal this and there is likely very little risk in reality. But, she decided to announce it so now what would she expect mom to do?

huskerbb · Guru

Bonny22Pye wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Would you fire a nanny if you found out she was an anti-vaccer and never got vaccinated?
Luckily its a non issue for me since Gordito goes to a daycare the mandates vaccines. But if California law prohibited me from requiring vaccinations as part of employing a nanny I wouldn't use one to start.
But that's part of her medical history.
Some jobs require some medical stuff. HIV disclosure is not on the list.
Also, you can't get HIV from being in the same room with someone or sharing a cup of coffee with them like you can with Chicken Pox.
If she legally could ask her to disclose of certain medical things I may be ok with it.
Chicken Pox is almost never fatal. It is also cheaper to treat since, well, you don't really treat it other than letting the kid stay in bed a few days and eat soup.
I was hospitalized over chicken pox. I had it 3 times as a child. It can be very serious for some people.

Very serious is not common. Fatal is very uncommon. Hospitalization is not common.

For HIV--serious is always. Fatal is eventually a guarantee. Hospitalization is frequent. Treatment is expensive.