TOTALLY GEEKED!

Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Domestic Engineer wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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OK - who voted yes that schools are not the ones to teach about sex ed? Because I want to make sure it isn't someone trying to LIE to make a false point.

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 That would be me.  Some topics need to be taught by the parents and I feel sex education is one of those topics.   The sex education taught in schools does not mirror my moral beliefs.  We did not sit our children down and have the talk, sex education was an ongoing open discussions from toddler to teen.  

 

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 I strongly disagree.

Many parents are just like my parents. It was never, ever discussed. In any way, shape or form.

I got all the information from my friends. The wrong information.

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And you are a couple of generations removed from today's kids.  Things are different now. 

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 Youd be surprised. I work in the schools with a lot of immigrant kids. Their parents don't speak to them about it.

 

And, as a parent, if you don't want it you can opt out. So, I dont' see a problem with the school teaching this. I am amazed how stupid people are about their own bodies.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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I think the title is what throws people off.

They are not learning how to have sex.

They are learning about the mechanics of the body, how birth control works, and how to prevent STDs.

To me, it's just health.

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 Who in the world thought that? Maybe we need another poll...

flan

Lawyerlady wrote:

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Ok, Lily - that's right up there with adults not knowing they shouldn't crap on the floor.

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 Yeah, well, apparently that's a thing.

 

 

I don't understand the "if they know about it, it encourages it" mentality.

My health teacher was VERY direct. She went over every disease until we could recite them and their process in our sleep.

It made having sex very unappealing.

I could teach some stuff.  

I don't remember getting the "your changing body" lesson in school. My mom covered that with me, thankfully.
I did have sex Ed in seventh and tenth grades. Keep in mind that I was an army brat, so my education was a little disjointed from all the moving around.
What I remember from sex Ed is that they explained fully how all the parts work, how pregnancy happens and progresses and they mentioned briefly various forms of birth control while making sure that we knew the only 100% effective way to prevent pregnancy and disease was abstinence.
I remember being fascinated with the way human bodies worked when I learned all this in Arizona. I also remember being confused that other kids didn't seem to absorb this vital information and went around repeating dumb rumors and falsehoods.

There was some weird presentation involving fire and other things about how sex ruins you and another about how your spouse will love you more if you wait for them to have sex. Those were both in Texas schools.

I support sex ed in schools mainly because so many parents don't or won't teach their kids things they need to know to survive in adulthood. I wish that weren't true, but if wishes were fishes we'd all be well fed.

WYSIWYG wrote:

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Really. If kids are still having sex after sex ed - the teacher wasn't scary enough.
- Lawyerlady

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I disagree. If kids are still having UNPROTECTED sex after sex ed, then I would agree that the teacher didn't instill the proper respect for diseases and pregnancy.

On the other hand if they are having protected sex then I think the teacher was completely successful.

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 Seriously.

I don't want my kids scared to ever have sex.

flan

Define the details of what exactly is being taught first please.
drrichswier.com/2014/06/22/dr-duke-pesta-shocking-k-12-common-core-sexual-education-standards/

Tangerine wrote:

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I don't remember getting the "your changing body" lesson in school. My mom covered that with me, thankfully.
I did have sex Ed in seventh and tenth grades. Keep in mind that I was an army brat, so my education was a little disjointed from all the moving around.
What I remember from sex Ed is that they explained fully how all the parts work, how pregnancy happens and progresses and they mentioned briefly various forms of birth control while making sure that we knew the only 100% effective way to prevent pregnancy and disease was abstinence.
I remember being fascinated with the way human bodies worked when I learned all this in Arizona. I also remember being confused that other kids didn't seem to absorb this vital information and went around repeating dumb rumors and falsehoods.

There was some weird presentation involving fire and other things about how sex ruins you and another about how your spouse will love you more if you wait for them to have sex. Those were both in Texas schools.

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 Love you more? Maybe less threatened because you have nothing to compare them to.

flan327 wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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WYSIWYG wrote:

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Really. If kids are still having sex after sex ed - the teacher wasn't scary enough.
- Lawyerlady

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I disagree. If kids are still having UNPROTECTED sex after sex ed, then I would agree that the teacher didn't instill the proper respect for diseases and pregnancy.

On the other hand if they are having protected sex then I think the teacher was completely successful.

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 Seriously.

I don't want my kids scared to ever have sex.

flan

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 Why would you wish that on them?

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 Beats me, but that's what LL implied.

flan

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 They should have a healthy fear of unwanted pregnancy and STDs.  As should EVERYONE.

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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The fact is--whether it's as teenagers or later--most people are going to have sex, at least try it.

Ideally, that would be during marriage--but--people used to get married a lot younger, too. Waiting until you are 20 to have sex is a VASTLY different prospect than waiting until you are the 40 year old virgin.

I think many people, Christian groups included, send VERY mixed messages and are unrealistic about this.

They say "wait until you are married to have sex".

But when the 20 year olds come and say "we're getting married"--what is the normal response? Everyone says they are too young.

That's BS. You can't have it both ways.

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 THANK YOU. 

I had a friend whose mother was insistent she wait until marriage. She got married at 18. 

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 Then she did what her mother educated her to do.  So what?  I had a kid get married at 18, also.   Although, I doubt if he waited.  

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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The fact is--whether it's as teenagers or later--most people are going to have sex, at least try it.

Ideally, that would be during marriage--but--people used to get married a lot younger, too. Waiting until you are 20 to have sex is a VASTLY different prospect than waiting until you are the 40 year old virgin.

I think many people, Christian groups included, send VERY mixed messages and are unrealistic about this.

They say "wait until you are married to have sex".

But when the 20 year olds come and say "we're getting married"--what is the normal response? Everyone says they are too young.

That's BS. You can't have it both ways.

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 THANK YOU. 

I had a friend whose mother was insistent she wait until marriage. She got married at 18. 

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 Then she did what her mother educated her to do.  So what?  I had a kid get married at 18, also.   Although, I doubt if he waited.  

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 And you said it was your worst nightmare.  Sooo. . .

Her mother might have tried to talk her out of it, but she eloped two days after her 18th birthday,  had a baby ten months later, has had three more since. 

We still talk, but it is hard to find things in common. I used to offer to visit, but she always said it wasn't a good time, and eventually I let it go. She stays at home with the kids, he works in town, changing tires.  I can never tell if she is happy or not. She used to want to be an accountant,  she was always brilliant at math and numbers, she was planning to go to school for it. I can't tell if she is happy being a stay at home mom, or if she wishes she had followed her education. 

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 ????  Where do yiu come up with your nonsense?  I never said anything of the sort.

 

As to your friend--she made her choices.  

I can't find it. Is it in the break room? I did a search for nightmare, too, and it didn't come up.

Just goes to show that stuff works out, I guess.

How long ago did this happen. It might have been on GT.