DEAR ABBY: Every December my wife virtually buries our home in Christmas decorations. It's not just the tree and stockings in the living room; she's not happy until there are Christmas towels and Christmas soap in the bathroom and another tree and knicky-knacky stuff downstairs. Not even a doorknob is safe from decoration.
It drives me nuts; I feel so claustrophobic. I bump into these decorations everywhere I turn. I was raised differently, more simply. There was a tree in the living room and stockings hung from the mantel. That was it.
For the last 20 years of our marriage, I have suggested -- unsuccessfully -- that we compromise and alternate every other year. One year her way, the next mine. When I do, she tearfully accuses me of being Scrooge. I admit I'm not big on the commercialized Christmas season, but is my request unreasonable? -- NOT FOND OF CHRISTMAS IN NORTH OGDEN, UTAH
DEAR NOT FOND: No, it's not. You are suggesting meeting each other halfway. Your wife is unwilling to do that even though she knows what she's doing is making you uncomfortable. And that's regrettable because Christmas is supposed to be about what's in the heart, not what's all over the house.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
I can't imagine being married to a man who rained on my Christmas parade. Actually I can. It was the worst. He had a fit when I wanted a tree one year because he didn't want to spend $30.00 at Home Depot for a fresh cut. Said we couldn't afford it. Then went out and bought a new laser printer, back when laser printers were new technology and cost around $1000.00. RB
I think the compromise should be a couple of off limits rooms. The bedroom and bathroom don't need to be done. But asking to skip EVERYTHING every other year is a bit much.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I think the compromise should be a couple of off limits rooms. The bedroom and bathroom don't need to be done. But asking to skip EVERYTHING every other year is a bit much.
He never said skip "everything"--he said tree and stockings on the mantle is what he wanted, not nothing.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I think the compromise should be a couple of off limits rooms. The bedroom and bathroom don't need to be done. But asking to skip EVERYTHING every other year is a bit much.
He never said skip "everything"--he said tree and stockings on the mantle is what he wanted, not nothing.
No, he actually didn't say what he wanted - he said what he used to have growing up. We have no idea what he presented as "my way" to his wife.
But, it just seems dumb. If it makes her happy, it's only for a month each year. Ask for a couple of rooms to be decoration free so he can have those, and get over it.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
She doensnt have to take over the WHOLE house with crap. They can compromise. She could put all her crap up from Dec 1 to Jan 1 and then take it down or something like that. Or, only decorate certain rooms or whatever. It's his house too and he has a right to say what he does or doesn't like. It doesn't sound like a control freak who only wants things his way. But, sounds like he is willing to at least talk and come up with some compromise.
I think the compromise should be a couple of off limits rooms. The bedroom and bathroom don't need to be done. But asking to skip EVERYTHING every other year is a bit much.
He never said skip "everything"--he said tree and stockings on the mantle is what he wanted, not nothing.
No, he actually didn't say what he wanted - he said what he used to have growing up. We have no idea what he presented as "my way" to his wife.
But, it just seems dumb. If it makes her happy, it's only for a month each year. Ask for a couple of rooms to be decoration free so he can have those, and get over it.
We can assume since he brought that up he would be happy with that and it is highly likely that is what he presented as his compromise--which is more than reasonable.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Towels and soap in the bathroom? Isn't there always towels and soap in the bathroom?
Two trees? He doesn't say how big either of them are. One could an 8 foot massive behemoth of a tree, and the other could be a 2 foot tabletop tree.
Knick-knacks? Is there stuff on every surface or does a table have some candless?
Door knobs? Is it a door hanger or a leather band of bells?
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I know people who turn their house into Santa's workshop and say it isn't enough.
What is too much for one, may be just right for another.
Still, the towels and soap in the bathroom comment makes me think he is exaggerating.
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I know people who turn their house into Santa's workshop and say it isn't enough.
What is too much for one, may be just right for another.
Still, the towels and soap in the bathroom comment makes me think he is exaggerating.
Me, too. What difference does it make if the towels have Christmas decorations on them or are plain or if the soap smells like cranberries? If he's really complaining about that when it makes his wife happy, he is a scrooge.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I'm wondering if he would flip out if there were other seasonal soaps and towels.
Nothing is more annoying than those dang bunny soaps.
Or flag soaps.
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He says not even a doorknob is safe from decorations. So, it's probably annoying when you are opening closet doors or other doors and have some cutesy chinese crap hanging off it. So, why does that make HIM unreasonable. It's his house too. Doesn't he get a say?
He says not even a doorknob is safe from decorations. So, it's probably annoying when you are opening closet doors or other doors and have some cutesy chinese crap hanging off it. So, why does that make HIM unreasonable. It's his house too. Doesn't he get a say?
It's a very short time out of the year. As long as he's not the one having to put it out or put it away - it's really not a big deal.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
He says not even a doorknob is safe from decorations. So, it's probably annoying when you are opening closet doors or other doors and have some cutesy chinese crap hanging off it. So, why does that make HIM unreasonable. It's his house too. Doesn't he get a say?
It's a very short time out of the year. As long as he's not the one having to put it out or put it away - it's really not a big deal.
You don't know that. I know people who have decorations up for Months and months. She very likely could start putting them out in Oct and not taking them down to till Feb. You are making the assumption based on what you do. It doesn't say one way or the other.
He says not even a doorknob is safe from decorations. So, it's probably annoying when you are opening closet doors or other doors and have some cutesy chinese crap hanging off it. So, why does that make HIM unreasonable. It's his house too. Doesn't he get a say?
It's a very short time out of the year. As long as he's not the one having to put it out or put it away - it's really not a big deal.
You don't know that. I know people who have decorations up for Months and months. She very likely could start putting them out in Oct and not taking them down to till Feb. You are making the assumption based on what you do. It doesn't say one way or the other.
And you don't know that it's not simply for 2 weeks.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
He says not even a doorknob is safe from decorations. So, it's probably annoying when you are opening closet doors or other doors and have some cutesy chinese crap hanging off it. So, why does that make HIM unreasonable. It's his house too. Doesn't he get a say?
It's a very short time out of the year. As long as he's not the one having to put it out or put it away - it's really not a big deal.
You don't know that. I know people who have decorations up for Months and months. She very likely could start putting them out in Oct and not taking them down to till Feb. You are making the assumption based on what you do. It doesn't say one way or the other.
And you don't know that it's not simply for 2 weeks.
I didn't say I did. YOu are the one claiming it's only for a "very short time" when you don't know that to be the case. But, even still, HE doesn't like it. Doesnt' he have any say in his own home?
He says not even a doorknob is safe from decorations. So, it's probably annoying when you are opening closet doors or other doors and have some cutesy chinese crap hanging off it. So, why does that make HIM unreasonable. It's his house too. Doesn't he get a say?
It's a very short time out of the year. As long as he's not the one having to put it out or put it away - it's really not a big deal.
You don't know that. I know people who have decorations up for Months and months. She very likely could start putting them out in Oct and not taking them down to till Feb. You are making the assumption based on what you do. It doesn't say one way or the other.
And you don't know that it's not simply for 2 weeks.
I didn't say I did. YOu are the one claiming it's only for a "very short time" when you don't know that to be the case. But, even still, HE doesn't like it. Doesnt' he have any say in his own home?
Because the NORMAL assumption would be that it would be during the holiday season, which is a month - 6 weeks at most. You are the one having to make ridiculous assumptions that she keeps the decorations up for MONTHS and MONTHS in order to argue a point.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
OK? I said we don't KNOW. Which means you don't know that it is a "very short time" either.
I think one month out of 12 is a short time. That's the normal time for Christmas decorations. For you to argue - you have to make it about NOT normal, when we don't know.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
OK? I said we don't KNOW. Which means you don't know that it is a "very short time" either.
I think one month out of 12 is a short time. That's the normal time for Christmas decorations. For you to argue - you have to make it about NOT normal, when we don't know.
OK? I said we don't KNOW. Which means you don't know that it is a "very short time" either.
I think one month out of 12 is a short time. That's the normal time for Christmas decorations. For you to argue - you have to make it about NOT normal, when we don't know.
One month? Where does it say that?
That is the NORMAL time for Christmas decorations, Gaga. Since it doesn't say how long, that is the normal time frame to allot. In order to make your point, you have to allot a NOT normal time frame. Or are you going to argue that one month is not the normal time frame since it seems your posts are just about arguing with anything and everything today?
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
My points are just as valid as yours. You keep assuming this is a "normal" amount of decorating over a "normal" time frame. Well, you don't know that to be the case one way or the other and neither do I. So, i guess i can 'argue' about one way or the other as that is kind of the point of a "discussion".
Heart shaped soaps at Valentine's must send him over the edge.
Well, that's just nutty.
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"a" does not mean "all". She probably puts one of those bell jinglers on the front door. Big deal. Between that and the poinsetta soap, it's shocking he doesn't break out in hives.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
This is THEIR marriage & if his wife loves him...she should at least listen to him. Maybe this is his "dirty cup left in the sink." He has a right to his feelings.
Not sure what it says about me that I use my Christmas, Halloween, Valentines, and Fourth of July hand towels year round.
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Not sure what it says about me that I use my Christmas, Halloween, Valentines, and Fourth of July hand towels year round.
If you're like me, it means that you bought them on sale after the holiday!
flan
Exactly. Never pay full price. And I just use them. They're hand towels.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
This is THEIR marriage & if his wife loves him...she should at least listen to him. Maybe this is his "dirty cup left in the sink." He has a right to his feelings.
flan
p.s. And Christmas comes even without a tree.
And that goes the other way, too. If decorating the house for Christmas makes her happy and he loves his wife, he should just deal with it.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
This is THEIR marriage & if his wife loves him...she should at least listen to him. Maybe this is his "dirty cup left in the sink." He has a right to his feelings.
flan
p.s. And Christmas comes even without a tree.
And that goes the other way, too. If decorating the house for Christmas makes her happy and he loves his wife, he should just deal with it.
This is THEIR marriage & if his wife loves him...she should at least listen to him. Maybe this is his "dirty cup left in the sink." He has a right to his feelings.
flan
p.s. And Christmas comes even without a tree.
And that goes the other way, too. If decorating the house for Christmas makes her happy and he loves his wife, he should just deal with it.
Again, we don't KNOW how the house is decorated.
flan
That matters not at all when you start using the "if it makes them happy and they love them" mentality.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Monday 8th of February 2016 09:47:06 AM
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