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Friends of girl, 18, with leukemia sign her casket with loving messages in a final goodbye after she died waiting for a hospital bed during a shortage in Canada

  • Laura Hillier, 18, died after waiting for a bone marrow transplant during a hospital bed shortage in Canada, despite having willing donors available 
  • An Ontario hospital said it could only do five transplants a month and there were about 30 people who were waiting to have the procedure done
  • At her funeral, friends and family signed her casket with loving messages 
  • The Hillier family is now fighting in Laura's memory to end 'deadly' wait times for hospital beds in Canada

By KALHAN ROSENBLATT FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 14:24 EST, 6 February 2016 | UPDATED: 19:10 EST, 6 February 2016

 

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Laura Hillier (pictured), who had leukemia, died after waiting for a bed to become available in a Canadian hospital for a bone marrow transplant 
 
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Laura Hillier (pictured), who had leukemia, died after waiting for a bed to become available in a Canadian hospital for a bone marrow transplant 

A girl who died of leukemia was given a final send off after her friends signed her casket with loving messages on January 30.

Laura Hillier got to experience a few normal childhood milestones like graduating high school and getting her senior year book signed before she died on January 20.

Laura might have experienced a few more milestones if a Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, hospital had been able to accommodate a bone marrow transplant for the young woman.

Numerous donors were a match with Laura and ready to donate, but Hamilton's Juravinski Hospital didn't have enough beds in high-air-pressure rooms for the procedure.

Hospital staff told her they had about 30 patients with potential donors, but the means to only do about five transplants a month.

Laura was first diagnosed with acute myeloid leukemia at age 13. 

She had been completely cancer-free for approximately four years after her first battle with AML, and relapsed this past May. 

Though Laura was able to achieve remission for a second time, she relapsed again in November 2015.

Dr. Ralph Meyer, Juravinski's vice-president of oncology and palliative care, told Ontario's TheStar.com there are plenty of others facing the same situation as Laura in Canada.

He said donor registries are growing in size, and technological advances allow transplants to safely happen between people who are less of a match for each other are becoming more and more common.

Laura's friends signed her casket in a final good bye at her funeral ten days after she died on January 20 
 
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Laura's friends signed her casket in a final good bye at her funeral ten days after she died on January 20 

In loving memory: Friends gathered around Laura's signed casket to speak about their experiences with her
 
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In loving memory: Friends gathered around Laura's signed casket to speak about their experiences with her

'It is crazy to have to be on a wait-list when you have a donor and you are ready to go,' Laura told TheStar.com in July of 2015.

Putting off the surgery meant Laura had to endure her fifth round of painstaking chemotherapy.

After her death in January, her obituary slammed Canada's bed shortage as having 'deadly wait times':

'In Laura's last year with us, she was determined to bring public attention to the problem of deadly wait times for bone marrow transplants in Ontario and across Canada.

'In July 2015, Laura achieved remission for the second time from acute myeloid leukemia and was blessed to have a perfect donor match.

'However, she found out that she would not be able to receive her life-saving transplant for months as there were many waiting ahead of her and not enough resources to handle the demand.'

After her death, the outpouring of love was so great for Laura, her family asked some people to only attend the visitation, rather than the funeral, because they were worried about running out of room.

Friends of the musical theater-loving teen came out in droves, signing the casket in marker, talking about her life and singing songs. 

'Though Laura's casket was a beautiful sentiment from her friends and family, Laura's fight, and now our fight, is to change the medical system to end the deadly wait times for patients requiring a bone marrow transplant,' a post on the Hope for Laura Hillier Facebook page said.

'Life is a song...Sing 'til your heart's content': Laura's funeral touched on her love for music and singing 
 
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'Life is a song...Sing 'til your heart's content': Laura's funeral touched on her love for music and singing 

 

Laura (pictured), who loved musical theater, was first diagnosed with leukemia at age 13 and died at age 18
 
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Laura (pictured), who loved musical theater, was first diagnosed with leukemia at age 13 and died at age 18

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Government in inaction.

 

Since there is a clear need for positive pressure rooms, why haven't they been built?

Maybe this publicity will spur some lawmakers to address this. blankstare

 



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Government in inaction.

 

Since there is a clear need for positive pressure rooms, why haven't they been built?

Maybe this publicity will spur some lawmakers to address this. blankstare

 

 Because govt operates at a snail's pace.  Govt has no sense of urgency or incentives to every do anything beyond the status quo.  Govt cannot move mountains to save a young girl's life like the private sector can.



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I thought Universal Healthcare solved all the problems? Hmm.....

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Government in inaction.

 

Since there is a clear need for positive pressure rooms, why haven't they been built?

Maybe this publicity will spur some lawmakers to address this. blankstare

 

 And, you can't just add rooms as you know.  Everything has to be inspected, in compliance with code, certified, blah, blah.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
ed11563 wrote:

Government in inaction.

 

Since there is a clear need for positive pressure rooms, why haven't they been built?

Maybe this publicity will spur some lawmakers to address this. blankstare

 

 And, you can't just add rooms as you know.  Everything has to be inspected, in compliance with code, certified, blah, blah.

Yes, it takes money and planning to convert additional rooms for special use. They seem to have known about this problem for YEARS. 



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Universal healthcare kills off the young in Canada, and the elderly in the U.S. Fewer people means fewer costs.

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Universal healthcare kills off the young in Canada, and the elderly in the U.S. Fewer people means fewer costs.

 A wealthier family would have brought her to the US for the surgery.



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Universal healthcare kills off the young in Canada, and the elderly in the U.S. Fewer people means fewer costs.

 A wealthier family would have brought her to the US for the surgery.

Yes, money can still buy care in America. What a sad commentary on universal health care. 



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How awful that they can't make space for an 18 yr old. Sorry, but age should absolutely be a factor in these decisions. If you are 75, then you should be down further on the list.

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How awful that they can't make space for an 18 yr old. Sorry, but age should absolutely be a factor in these decisions. If you are 75, then you should be down further on the list.

 So now you are the death panel?  You get to decide whose life is more worth saving?  Before ACA we didn't have that here in the US.



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How awful that they can't make space for an 18 yr old. Sorry, but age should absolutely be a factor in these decisions. If you are 75, then you should be down further on the list.

 So now you are the death panel?  You get to decide whose life is more worth saving?  Before ACA we didn't have that here in the US.

That was my thought too. Plus age discrimination. 



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How awful that they can't make space for an 18 yr old. Sorry, but age should absolutely be a factor in these decisions. If you are 75, then you should be down further on the list.

 So now you are the death panel?  You get to decide whose life is more worth saving?  Before ACA we didn't have that here in the US.

 An 18 yr  old should have priority.  Yes.



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Well might as well get use to it.

That's going to be the new norm.

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How awful that they can't make space for an 18 yr old. Sorry, but age should absolutely be a factor in these decisions. If you are 75, then you should be down further on the list.

 So now you are the death panel?  You get to decide whose life is more worth saving?  Before ACA we didn't have that here in the US.

That was my thought too. Plus age discrimination. 

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I have a cousin that died yesterday.

22.

2 years ago, he was right at 180, working, dating and enjoying his life.

He started getting sick a lot.

Went to the doctor. Went to another. Then another.

They couldn't tell him what was wrong.

He lost his insurance cause he lost his job being out sick so much.

He qualified for help through the ACA but it wouldn't pay for anything.

He weighed 86 pounds whend he died.

The family is hoping the autopsy gives them some answers.

Private insurance covered testing, medicine for symptoms, hospital stays.

ACA covered hospice.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

I thought Universal Healthcare solved all the problems? Hmm.....

Why would you think that?

It's not perfect and nobody ever claimed it was. 

You really are prone to hyperbole.



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Because u are always telling us about Canadian Utopia and criticizing Anerica.

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Oh, FFS.
Show me one post where I claimed our health care is perfect.
Show me one post where I claimed it's a utopia.
Exaggerate much?
I have to go shopping now, but that will give you plenty of time to dig up these old posts of mine. Which don't exist.
Good luck.

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Oh, FFS.
Show me one post where I claimed our health care is perfect.
Show me one post where I claimed it's a utopia.
Exaggerate much?
I have to go shopping now, but that will give you plenty of time to dig up these old posts of mine. Which don't exist.
Good luck.

 Wow...this is RIPE. You are always tooting about how much better Canada is. I literally laughed out loud, (scaring my cats) with this post. You are too funny!!!!



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I PREFER Canada.
But utopia? The only one who ever claimed I said that was Lady Gaga.
If I did, show me the post.

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Then THIS is what you "prefer". 18 year olds dying. Great preference.

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Then THIS is what you "prefer". 18 year olds dying. Great preference.

 And you prefer not having Obamacare.

Where this 18 year old couldn't get insured in the first place, before the ACA.



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Then THIS is what you "prefer". 18 year olds dying. Great preference.

 And you prefer not having Obamacare.

Where this 18 year old couldn't get insured in the first place, before the ACA.

 You know that HOW?  Please explain.



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Pre-existing conditions. You may have heard of them.

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What about it? Are u gonna claim she wouldn't receive care in the US? Prove it!

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Maybe, maybe not.

New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage.

 

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

 

 

 

 



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Uh huh. Maybe you ought to focus on your Own country.

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But guess u just proved the point of how critical u are of America while ignoring the dead bodies in your own backyard!

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Then THIS is what you "prefer". 18 year olds dying. Great preference.

 

You do realize how you sound right now?

That ONE incident sums up the ENTIRE country.

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Yup. Point well made.

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Yup. Point well made.

 If you're delusional, maybe?

Because nothing ever goes wrong in hospitals here...no

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I dont claim that Universal health care is the be all and end all.

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I dont claim that Universal health care is the be all and end all.

Neither do I.

Delusional much? 



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Then quote some links showing how it's failures. Oh yeah u never do.

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As a nurse I've seen nightmares in some hospitals. If anyone here thinks that in America all care is even you're just plain stupid.

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Neither is Canada. Doh!

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How awful that they can't make space for an 18 yr old. Sorry, but age should absolutely be a factor in these decisions. If you are 75, then you should be down further on the list.

 So now you are the death panel?  You get to decide whose life is more worth saving?  Before ACA we didn't have that here in the US.

 An 18 yr  old should have priority.  Yes.

 WTF? 8 years ago that wasn't even a thought. It went by who had the donor with an organ most likely to not be rejected by the host body.



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It should be a thought. Youth should have priority over someone who has already hit their life expectancy.

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Then THIS is what you "prefer". 18 year olds dying. Great preference.

 And you prefer not having Obamacare.

Where this 18 year old couldn't get insured in the first place, before the ACA.

 ?????

 

18'year olds were covered under their parents insurance before Obama came along.

 

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Then THIS is what you "prefer". 18 year olds dying. Great preference.

 And you prefer not having Obamacare.

Where this 18 year old couldn't get insured in the first place, before the ACA.

 ?????

 

18'year olds were covered under their parents insurance before Obama came along.

 

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-- Edited by huskerbb on Monday 8th of February 2016 11:57:50 AM

 Welts only has one narrative.  That US health care isn't "as good" and that people were dropping dead before the Messiah took office.  Funny but i have managed to live my life quite nicely with Obama.  



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I haven't.

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I meant without Obama!! lol. I ate before he got elected and i will eat after he's out of office.

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Well, several policies he's made have significantly affected our family in a devastating way. I'm not going to call him names but I can't wait for him to be gone. I'm terrified for the future of this country. The middle class has all but been forgotten and neglected. The rich get richer and the poor get more and more help. Those trying to make a good honest living are suffering.

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Well, several policies he's made have significantly affected our family in a devastating way. I'm not going to call him names but I can't wait for him to be gone. I'm terrified for the future of this country. The middle class has all but been forgotten and neglected. The rich get richer and the poor get more and more help. Those trying to make a good honest living are suffering.

 See? It IS possible to criticize the POTUS without resorting to name calling.

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Oh brother? Liberals laid down the ground rules of how to treat the Potus with Reagan and Bush. So, wah, wah, wah.

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Oh brother? Liberals laid down the ground rules of how to treat the Potus with Reagan and Bush. So, wah, wah, wah.

 NOPE, I NEVER CALLED EITHER ONE OF THOSE MEN NAMES.

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That's nice but flan but the rest of us listened to Bush being called the most vile names for 8 yrs. So, carry on.

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Oh, and BTW, Obama hasn't ceased calling Americans names. Bitter clingers, etc. And, he certainly acts like the petulant manchild with all the names he calls Repos, so yeah.

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