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ed11563 · Guru

Runaway?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Ummm, how do they know she ran away vs. being taken? Did she leave a note?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Ok, this really bothers me. Why do they need to assume up front one way or the other? If a minor is missing, it should be ASSUMED that this child is in danger and resources need to be mobilized to find her. Even if she is a runaway, that doesn't mean she is in any less danger than if she was abducted. What matters is that she is in missing and is potentially in grave danger so she needs to be found. It it is later found that she just went and hid for a few days at a friend's house, then fine. But, as a society, we need to be very concerned with the welfare of children.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Here's another missing 16 yr old girl:

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/missing-teens-mom-believes-someone-snatched-her_us_56bde915e4b0c3c55050d45b

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

One of the largest criminal activities in the world is sex trafficking young girls. And it happens right here, not just across the ocean.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, runaway, missing, abducted, road trip, whatever. A minor female is in danger until we know otherwise.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Ok, this really bothers me. Why do they need to assume up front one way or the other? If a minor is missing, it should be ASSUMED that this child is in danger and resources need to be mobilized to find her. Even if she is a runaway, that doesn't mean she is in any less danger than if she was abducted. What matters is that she is in missing and is potentially in grave danger so she needs to be found. It it is later found that she just went and hid for a few days at a friend's house, then fine. But, as a society, we need to be very concerned with the welfare of children.

What aren't they doing that they should be? The police are looking for her. They have information that indicates this was NOT foul play.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

They look at if they have done this before. If it's a problem kid. If there are things missing, clothes, money, things the kid values.

Yes, it should be taken serious, and it looks like the police are doing all they can within the law.

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huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Ok, this really bothers me. Why do they need to assume up front one way or the other? If a minor is missing, it should be ASSUMED that this child is in danger and resources need to be mobilized to find her. Even if she is a runaway, that doesn't mean she is in any less danger than if she was abducted. What matters is that she is in missing and is potentially in grave danger so she needs to be found. It it is later found that she just went and hid for a few days at a friend's house, then fine. But, as a society, we need to be very concerned with the welfare of children.
What aren't they doing that they should be? The police are looking for her. They have information that indicates this was NOT foul play.

She's still only 13. And there are actually worse things than death.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Ok, this really bothers me. Why do they need to assume up front one way or the other? If a minor is missing, it should be ASSUMED that this child is in danger and resources need to be mobilized to find her. Even if she is a runaway, that doesn't mean she is in any less danger than if she was abducted. What matters is that she is in missing and is potentially in grave danger so she needs to be found. It it is later found that she just went and hid for a few days at a friend's house, then fine. But, as a society, we need to be very concerned with the welfare of children.
What aren't they doing that they should be? The police are looking for her. They have information that indicates this was NOT foul play.
She's still only 13. And there are actually worse things than death.

Huh? So, it is better to be raped and killed and die then not die? Not sure i understand your point?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Ok, this really bothers me. Why do they need to assume up front one way or the other? If a minor is missing, it should be ASSUMED that this child is in danger and resources need to be mobilized to find her. Even if she is a runaway, that doesn't mean she is in any less danger than if she was abducted. What matters is that she is in missing and is potentially in grave danger so she needs to be found. It it is later found that she just went and hid for a few days at a friend's house, then fine. But, as a society, we need to be very concerned with the welfare of children.
What aren't they doing that they should be? The police are looking for her. They have information that indicates this was NOT foul play.

I don't know. But, it seems over the years, that we have heard that some police depts don't mobilize their resouces in the same way as they do for an abduction.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Ok, this really bothers me. Why do they need to assume up front one way or the other? If a minor is missing, it should be ASSUMED that this child is in danger and resources need to be mobilized to find her. Even if she is a runaway, that doesn't mean she is in any less danger than if she was abducted. What matters is that she is in missing and is potentially in grave danger so she needs to be found. It it is later found that she just went and hid for a few days at a friend's house, then fine. But, as a society, we need to be very concerned with the welfare of children.
What aren't they doing that they should be? The police are looking for her. They have information that indicates this was NOT foul play.
She's still only 13. And there are actually worse things than death.
Huh? So, it is better to be raped and killed and die then not die? Not sure i understand your point?

Young girls are worthless dead. They may never be killed. They may be trafficked and raped on a daily basis, turned into junkies, and made into slaves.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yes, that's true. But most of them end up dead.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Yes, that's true. But most of them end up dead.

Not until they have been used up for years.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

That's true. But, most abductions, the child is raped, tortured and killed within the first 24 hrs.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
That's true. But, most abductions, the child is raped, tortured and killed within the first 24 hrs.

Up to 20% of missing runaways become victims of sex trafficking. That's a lot.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
That's true. But, most abductions, the child is raped, tortured and killed within the first 24 hrs.
Up to 20% of missing runaways become victims of sex trafficking. That's a lot.

Well, at least for them there is still hope to find them and bring them home.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
That's true. But, most abductions, the child is raped, tortured and killed within the first 24 hrs.
Up to 20% of missing runaways become victims of sex trafficking. That's a lot.
Well, at least for them there is still hope to find them and bring them home.

And a lot of kids that go missing are never reported. That's really sad.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Ok, this really bothers me. Why do they need to assume up front one way or the other? If a minor is missing, it should be ASSUMED that this child is in danger and resources need to be mobilized to find her. Even if she is a runaway, that doesn't mean she is in any less danger than if she was abducted. What matters is that she is in missing and is potentially in grave danger so she needs to be found. It it is later found that she just went and hid for a few days at a friend's house, then fine. But, as a society, we need to be very concerned with the welfare of children.
What aren't they doing that they should be? The police are looking for her. They have information that indicates this was NOT foul play.
She's still only 13. And there are actually worse things than death.

That makes no sense.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Ok, this really bothers me. Why do they need to assume up front one way or the other? If a minor is missing, it should be ASSUMED that this child is in danger and resources need to be mobilized to find her. Even if she is a runaway, that doesn't mean she is in any less danger than if she was abducted. What matters is that she is in missing and is potentially in grave danger so she needs to be found. It it is later found that she just went and hid for a few days at a friend's house, then fine. But, as a society, we need to be very concerned with the welfare of children.
What aren't they doing that they should be? The police are looking for her. They have information that indicates this was NOT foul play.
She's still only 13. And there are actually worse things than death.
That makes no sense.

Really? Would you prefer to live in slavery - raped, beaten and drugged on a daily basis for years? Or would you rather die and go to heaven?

I know what my choice would be.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Ok, this really bothers me. Why do they need to assume up front one way or the other? If a minor is missing, it should be ASSUMED that this child is in danger and resources need to be mobilized to find her. Even if she is a runaway, that doesn't mean she is in any less danger than if she was abducted. What matters is that she is in missing and is potentially in grave danger so she needs to be found. It it is later found that she just went and hid for a few days at a friend's house, then fine. But, as a society, we need to be very concerned with the welfare of children.
What aren't they doing that they should be? The police are looking for her. They have information that indicates this was NOT foul play.
She's still only 13. And there are actually worse things than death.
That makes no sense.
Really? Would you prefer to live in slavery - raped, beaten and drugged on a daily basis for years? Or would you rather die and go to heaven?
I know what my choice would be.

That's absurd. it's not an either/or.

Tinydancer · Guru

I agree, if you're dead they can't do all that other stuff to you. I'd still rather be dead.

huskerbb · Guru

But it's not some choice.

Plus, we don't know that any of those things are going to happen here.

ed11563 · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Really? Would you prefer to live in slavery - raped, beaten and drugged on a daily basis for years? Or would you rather die and go to heaven?
I know what my choice would be.

Sometimes girls escape, sometimes girls are rescued.

Sometimes they choose to live on the street because it's safer than living with mommy and daddy and daddy's friends who visit.

Tinydancer · Guru

That's just weird.

ed11563 · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
That's just weird.

What? That some kids run away from being battered or sexually abused at home?

Do you really not know that those things happen?

And some kids run away because their parents are seriously homophobic, and the kid is gay?

Do people really not know that abusive homes exist?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
But it's not some choice.

Plus, we don't know that any of those things are going to happen here.

In 1 out of 5 cases it does. Those are the times we are talking about.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
But it's not some choice.

Plus, we don't know that any of those things are going to happen here.
In 1 out of 5 cases it does. Those are the times we are talking about.

Then no, we arent since it's only 20%.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
But it's not some choice.

Plus, we don't know that any of those things are going to happen here.
In 1 out of 5 cases it does. Those are the times we are talking about.
Then no, we arent since it's only 20%.

Well, Husker, that's what I'M talking about. You can talk about whatever you wish, but so will I.

huskerbb · Guru

But either way, it's not some either or choice they make.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
But either way, it's not some either or choice they make.

????? Who said it was?

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
But either way, it's not some either or choice they make.
????? Who said it was?

You said you'd rather be dead than have this or this or this happen--implying a choice.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
But either way, it's not some either or choice they make.
????? Who said it was?
You said you'd rather be dead than have this or this or this happen--implying a choice.

I first said there were worse things than death. And yes, I would rather one over the other. That would be my preference - it doesn't mean choice.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
But either way, it's not some either or choice they make.
????? Who said it was?
You said you'd rather be dead than have this or this or this happen--implying a choice.
I first said there were worse things than death. And yes, I would rather one over the other. That would be my preference - it doesn't mean choice.

Preference means choice.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
But either way, it's not some either or choice they make.
????? Who said it was?
You said you'd rather be dead than have this or this or this happen--implying a choice.
I first said there were worse things than death. And yes, I would rather one over the other. That would be my preference - it doesn't mean choice.
Preference means choice.

No, it doesn't.

TOTALLY GEEKED!

Samantha Leli, 13, missing from Centereach since Wednesday, cops say