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flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

R.I.P. Harper Lee

FNW · Guru

Who?

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

FNW wrote:
Who?

The author of To Kill a Mockingbird, one of the greatest pieces of literature in all of American history.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Mellow Momma wrote:
FNW wrote:
Who?
The author of To Kill a Mockingbird, one of the greatest pieces of literature in all of American history.

Google is your friend.

flan

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

flan327 wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
FNW wrote:
Who?
The author of To Kill a Mockingbird, one of the greatest pieces of literature in all of American history.
Google is your friend.
flan

So is the 8th grade.

Tinydancer · Guru

You weren't friends with Google when lily posted about the long time Atlanta coach that died. You really do have no idea how you come across do you?

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

I did not realize she was still alive. I thought Go Set a Watchman was released posthumously. To Kill A Mockingbird was a fabulous book. I did not really like the other one.

RIP Harper Lee.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Her book is taught in every school across the country. The basketball coach you referenced is not.

Do YOU have any idea how YOU come across ?

Ohfour · Hooker

Mellow Momma wrote:
Her book is taught in every school across the country. The basketball coach you referenced is not.

Do YOU have any idea how YOU come across ?

No, its not. In fact, many schools have banned it...ah, the liberal agenda...

Tinydancer · Guru

I don't call people on things I do myself. flan rags on people for doing EXACTLY what she does. See the difference?

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

FFS can we have ONE DAMN THREAD where people aren't snarking at each other over stupid piddling ****?!? It is flat out annoying as hell. This is a RIP thread. Pretend you are at a damned funeral & behave.

NAOW · Vette's SS

Lexxy wrote:
FFS can we have ONE DAMN THREAD where people aren't snarking at each other over stupid piddling ****?!? It is flat out annoying as hell. This is a RIP thread. Pretend you are at a damned funeral & behave.

chef · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
FNW wrote:
Who?
The author of To Kill a Mockingbird, one of the greatest pieces of literature in all of American history.
Google is your friend.
flan
So is the 8th grade.

Not everyone remembers everything they learned. Nor does a person remember the author of every book they've read. Flan is a librarian. She SHOULD have an above average knowledge of who wrote what.

I love The Great Gatsby. No clue who wrote it. Want to tell me which grade I should've learned that in? Or how about telling me Google is my friend?

Tinydancer · Guru

Lexxy wrote:
FFS can we have ONE DAMN THREAD where people aren't snarking at each other over stupid piddling ****?!? It is flat out annoying as hell. This is a RIP thread. Pretend you are at a damned funeral & behave.

I don't remember you all getting on flan for doing that on lilys RIP thread. I know she's saintly and all but I can't take you seriously when it's only me you call out. If you don't like my post then don't read them.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Tinydancer wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
FFS can we have ONE DAMN THREAD where people aren't snarking at each other over stupid piddling ****?!? It is flat out annoying as hell. This is a RIP thread. Pretend you are at a damned funeral & behave.
I don't remember you all getting on flan for doing that on lilys RIP thread. I know she's saintly and all but I can't take you seriously when it's only me you call out. If you don't like my post then don't read them.

First of all, that was for any & all posters being snarky, not just you. Flan was actually snarky to FNW first so it applies to her as well. I don't even remember Lily's thread about a coach. I wouldn't know who he was anyway.

And "don't read my post" arguments are so bloody lame when the snark is on every damn thread on the board. That again goes for everyone who engages in that crap.

I have nothing more to add. Just be respectful of others & the dead.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Mellow Momma wrote:
Her book is taught in every school across the country. The basketball coach you referenced is not.

Do YOU have any idea how YOU come across ?

It was never taught here & I was in AP English in HS. I didn't read it until I was in my 20s. It was in fact much more enjoyable than the crap we were forced to read in HS.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Mellow Momma wrote:
Her book is taught in every school across the country. The basketball coach you referenced is not.

Do YOU have any idea how YOU come across ?

No. It isnt. Wasn't in the 80s, isn't now.

We had Grapes of Wrath, Of Mice and Men, Macbeth, The Great Gatsby.

And the coach was Baseball, major leagues, 3rd base.

Not that we should have to take a popularity poll before we post something like this.

Most people, with any kind of real upbringing, will act like they are somebody and be respectful of an obituary thread.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Her book is taught in every school across the country. The basketball coach you referenced is not.

Do YOU have any idea how YOU come across ?
No, its not. In fact, many schools have banned it...ah, the liberal agenda...

CONSERVATIVES are the ones responsible for banning books.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Her book is taught in every school across the country. The basketball coach you referenced is not.

Do YOU have any idea how YOU come across ?
No. It isnt. Wasn't in the 80s, isn't now.
We had Grapes of Wrath, Of Mice and Men, Macbeth, The Great Gatsby.
And the coach was Baseball, major leagues, 3rd base.

Not that we should have to take a popularity poll before we post something like this.
Most people, with any kind of real upbringing, will act like they are somebody and be respectful of an obituary thread.

BOTH of my sons read it.

Comparing Harper Lee to a "3rd base coach?"

Carry on.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Her book is taught in every school across the country. The basketball coach you referenced is not.

Do YOU have any idea how YOU come across ?
No, its not. In fact, many schools have banned it...ah, the liberal agenda...
CONSERVATIVES are the ones responsible for banning books.
flan

Not this one.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Yes, this one too.

flan

FNW · Guru

Yes, I saw that she was the author of To Kill after I posted. Geeez. BTW, who decides whether a book is one of the "greatest pieces of literature?" Some of the so-called greatest pieces are boring to me. Isn't it all subjective? I have a copy of the Catcher in the Rye and can't get past the first chapter. Too boring to me. Same with Moby Dick.

Personally, I never read the book. It wasn't required. It wasn't discussed or studied when I grew up in the 70's/80's. I heard of it, because it was made into a movie. But I never saw the movie until I was in law school and my trial advocacy professor recommended it for it's acting and trial tactics. Good movie.

Ohfour · Hooker

Flan, Are you even able to comprehend how petty you sound? When even "Sweden Lexxy" comments about it, you should realize how ridiculous it is. But i guess that goes right over your head. Just stop. You just keep making yourself look worse...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 19th of February 2016 12:05:58 PM

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Yes, this one too.

flan

As a librarian, shouldn't you be better informed?

The second onslaught of attack came from new groups of censors, and it came during the late seventies and early eighties. Private sectors in the Midwest and suburban East began to demand the book's removal from school libraries. Groups, such as the Eden Valley School Committee in Minnesota, claimed that the book was too laden with profanity (Newsletter 1978). In Vernon, New York, Reverend Carl Hadley threatened to establish a private Christian school because public school libraries contained such "filthy, trashy sex novels" as A Separate Peace and To Kill a Mockingbird (Newsletter 1980). And finally, blacks began to censor the book. In Warren, Indiana, three black parents resigned from the township Human Relations Advisory Council when the Warren County school administration refused to remove the book from Warren junior high school classes. They contended that the book "does psychological damage to the positive integration process and represents institutionalized racism" (Newsletter 1982). Thus, censorship of To Kill a Mockingbird swung from the conservative right to the liberal left. Factions representing racists, religious sects, concerned parents, and minority groups vocally demanded the book's removal from public schools. With this kind of offense, what makesTo Kill a Mockingbird worth defending and keeping?

The entire essay: http://ic.galegroup.com/ic/suic/CriticalEssayDetailsPage/CriticalEssayDetailsWindow?zid=7d6ff762c015c06f22406d479b43b107&action=2&catId=&documentId=GALE%7CEJ2111200618&userGroupName=dove10524&jsid=09d2bcaf178358634b27046a14f20ae

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

FNW wrote:
Yes, I saw that she was the author of To Kill after I posted. Geeez. BTW, who decides whether a book is one of the "greatest pieces of literature?" Some of the so-called greatest pieces are boring to me. Isn't it all subjective? I have a copy of the Catcher in the Rye and can't get past the first chapter. Too boring to me. Same with Moby Dick.

Personally, I never read the book. It wasn't required. It wasn't discussed or studied when I grew up in the 70's/80's. I heard of it, because it was made into a movie. But I never saw the movie until I was in law school and my trial advocacy professor recommended it for it's acting and trial tactics. Good movie.

It's been banned in many schools and areas for decades. It's completely normal that you never read it.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

FNW wrote:
Yes, I saw that she was the author of To Kill after I posted. Geeez. BTW, who decides whether a book is one of the "greatest pieces of literature?" Some of the so-called greatest pieces are boring to me. Isn't it all subjective? I have a copy of the Catcher in the Rye and can't get past the first chapter. Too boring to me. Same with Moby Dick.

Personally, I never read the book. It wasn't required. It wasn't discussed or studied when I grew up in the 70's/80's. I heard of it, because it was made into a movie. But I never saw the movie until I was in law school and my trial advocacy professor recommended it for it's acting and trial tactics. Good movie.

I agree that it is subjective. I am about a third of the way through The Fountainhead & just cannot force myself to finish it. The conversational small talk is just mind numbing.

I read about 5 pages of For Whom the Bell Tolls & just had to stop.

I like authors like Lee Childs or Vince Flynn where there is action. Will they ever be considered great literature? Doubtful but they are entertaining & that is all I care about.

burns07 · Guru

the film was brilliant--for its time, rather difficult themes to address--peck's performance ( like tom hanks' in philadelphia, another film with difficult themes ) was understated, genuine, sincere--so many iconic scenes in the film--one of the few films ever made that did justice to the book, that didn't lose the message

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Ohfour wrote:
Flan, Are you even able to comprehend how petty you sound? When even "Sweden Lexxy" comments about it, you should realize how ridiculous it is. But i guess that goes right over your head. Just stop. You just keep making yourself look worse...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 19th of February 2016 12:05:58 PM

LOL, I think it's Switzerland biggrin But I'll give you a pass since you are on pain pills. And thanks for the sweet endorsement.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I don't like censorship like that. It's a book. It should be available to read.

There are lots of books that I don't agree with, but I think they should be available to read.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

From the American Library Association the challenges to this book have been:

To Kill a Mockingbird, by Harper Lee

Challenged in Eden Valley, MN (1977) and temporarily banned due to words "damn" and "whore lady" used in the novel.
Challenged in the Vernon Verona Sherill, NY School District (1980) as a "filthy, trashy novel."
Challenged at the Warren, IN Township schools (1981) because the book does "psychological damage to the positive integration process" and "represents institutionalized racism under the guise of good literature." After unsuccessfully trying to ban Lee's novel, three black parents resigned from the township human relations advisory council.
Challenged in the Waukegan, IL School District (1984) because the novel uses the word "******."
Challenged in the Kansas City, MO junior high schools (1985). Challenged at the Park Hill, MO Junior High School (1985) because the novel "contains profanity and racial slurs." Retained on a supplemental eighth grade reading list in the Casa Grande, AZ Elementary School District (1985), despite the protests by black parents and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People who charged the book was unfit for junior high use.
Challenged at the Santa Cruz, CA Schools (1995) because of its racial themes. Removed from the Southwood High School Library in Caddo Parish, LA (1995) because the book's language and content were objectionable.
Challenged at the Moss Point, MS School District (1996) because the novel contains a racial epithet. Banned from the Lindale, TX advanced placement English reading list (1996) because the book "conflicted with the values of the community."
Challenged by a Glynn County, GA (2001) School Board member because of profanity. The novel was retained. Returned to the freshman reading list at Muskogee, OK High School (2001) despite complaints over the years from black students and parents about racial slurs in the text.
Challenged in the Normal, IL Community High School's sophomore literature class (2003) as being degrading to African Americans.
Challenged at the Stanford Middle School in Durham, NC (2004) because the 1961 Pulitzer Prize-winning novel uses the word "******."
Challenged at the Brentwood, TN Middle School (2006) because the book contains “profanity” and “contains adult themes such as sexual intercourse, rape, and incest.” The complainants also contend that the book’s use of racial slurs promotes “racial hatred, racial division, racial separation, and promotes white supremacy.”
Retained in the English curriculum by the Cherry Hill, NJ Board of Education (2007). A resident had objected to the novel’s depiction of how blacks are treated by members of a racist white community in an Alabama town during the Depression. The resident feared the book would upset black children reading it.
Removed (2009) from the St. Edmund Campion Secondary School classrooms in Brampton Ontario, Canada because a parent objected to language used in the novel, including the word “******."

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
I don't like censorship like that. It's a book. It should be available to read.

There are lots of books that I don't agree with, but I think they should be available to read.

Me, too.

However, there are some books I don't want my child ASSIGNED to read, either. But there is a difference between choosing not to assign a book and outright banning it.

Ohfour · Hooker

Lexxy wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Flan, Are you even able to comprehend how petty you sound? When even "Sweden Lexxy" comments about it, you should realize how ridiculous it is. But i guess that goes right over your head. Just stop. You just keep making yourself look worse...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 19th of February 2016 12:05:58 PM
LOL, I think it's Switzerland But I'll give you a pass since you are on pain pills. And thanks for the sweet endorsement.

Yes! Yes!!!!! Thats it!!!! One of those SW countries! Lol!

chef · Guru

Gonna blow Flan's mind here ...

I thought Harper Lee was a man. Oops.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Tinydancer wrote:
You weren't friends with Google when lily posted about the long time Atlanta coach that died. You really do have no idea how you come across do you?

Short term memory is not part of everyone's persona.

Anyway, I have always lover her name. So exotic, yet not outlandish.

Ohfour · Hooker

If Bruiser had been a girl, he would have been Harper Lee. Both are family names and had nothing to do with the author...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I don't like censorship like that. It's a book. It should be available to read.

There are lots of books that I don't agree with, but I think they should be available to read.

Me, too.

However, there are some books I don't want my child ASSIGNED to read, either. But there is a difference between choosing not to assign a book and outright banning it.

Yes, some would say the Scarlett Letter or the Crucible shouldn't be assigned.

Mein Kampf is available in the high school library.

I have heard 50 Shades is in the high library.

Don't know.

I do believe age appropriate books and materials should be available.

I don't think a 3rd grader should have access to the same books a Senior does.

When Jesse was in the 4th grade, he was reading on an 8th grade level.

It was hard finding age appropriate books him.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

I'm sure those of you in my age bracket remember when VC Andrews wrote her Flowers in the Attic series. Every girl in my middle school ate them up. They of course were not assigned reading but looking back I'm not so sure they were age appropriate reading. I don't think any of us were scarred for life by reading them but it was some pretty heavy material for 12 yo girls.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lexxy wrote:
I'm sure those of you in my age bracket remember when VC Andrews wrote her Flowers in the Attic series. Every girl in my middle school ate them up. They of course were not assigned reading but looking back I'm not so sure they were age appropriate reading. I don't think any of us were scarred for life by reading them but it was some pretty heavy material for 12 yo girls.

I love the fact that "she" is still writing long after she died!

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

Lexxy wrote:
I'm sure those of you in my age bracket remember when VC Andrews wrote her Flowers in the Attic series. Every girl in my middle school ate them up. They of course were not assigned reading but looking back I'm not so sure they were age appropriate reading. I don't think any of us were scarred for life by reading them but it was some pretty heavy material for 12 yo girls.

Absolutely. I soaked them up. Those and the Heavenly books. Seeing that we were separated at birth, Lex, it doesnt surprise me that we were into the same stuff....

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lexxy wrote:
I'm sure those of you in my age bracket remember when VC Andrews wrote her Flowers in the Attic series. Every girl in my middle school ate them up. They of course were not assigned reading but looking back I'm not so sure they were age appropriate reading. I don't think any of us were scarred for life by reading them but it was some pretty heavy material for 12 yo girls.

I remember those books. And no, I don't think those were inappropriate for 12 yr olds.

But I don't think 12 yr olds should be reading 50 Shades either.

I remember the first erotica book I read. I think I was 12 or 13. Don't remember the name of it but I do remember thinking my mom would flip out if she knew what I was reading.

But then again, we had a hefty Harlequin Romance books.

Hated that drivel.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Ohfour wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
I'm sure those of you in my age bracket remember when VC Andrews wrote her Flowers in the Attic series. Every girl in my middle school ate them up. They of course were not assigned reading but looking back I'm not so sure they were age appropriate reading. I don't think any of us were scarred for life by reading them but it was some pretty heavy material for 12 yo girls.
Absolutely. I soaked them up. Those and the Heavenly books. Seeing that we were separated at birth, Lex, it doesnt surprise me that we were into the same stuff....

I never finished the Heavenly ones. I didn't know the Flowers series were made into movies. I caught the last half of a marathon a few months ago.

LOL Flan I think it is her daughter who took over ghost writing. I haven't read anything of hers since the 90s.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Ahhhh, V.C. Andrews. Yep, devoured those books.

The Scarlett Letter is a fabulous book.

huskerbb · Guru

Lexxy wrote:
FFS can we have ONE DAMN THREAD where people aren't snarking at each other over stupid piddling ****?!? It is flat out annoying as hell. This is a RIP thread. Pretend you are at a damned funeral & behave.

No, we can't.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

huskerbb wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
FFS can we have ONE DAMN THREAD where people aren't snarking at each other over stupid piddling ****?!? It is flat out annoying as hell. This is a RIP thread. Pretend you are at a damned funeral & behave.
No, we can't.

Well I think this one got back on track!

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
I'm sure those of you in my age bracket remember when VC Andrews wrote her Flowers in the Attic series. Every girl in my middle school ate them up. They of course were not assigned reading but looking back I'm not so sure they were age appropriate reading. I don't think any of us were scarred for life by reading them but it was some pretty heavy material for 12 yo girls.
I remember those books. And no, I don't think those were inappropriate for 12 yr olds.
But I don't think 12 yr olds should be reading 50 Shades either.

I remember the first erotica book I read. I think I was 12 or 13. Don't remember the name of it but I do remember thinking my mom would flip out if she knew what I was reading.
But then again, we had a hefty Harlequin Romance books.
Hated that drivel.

I don't think 12 yr olds should read it, either! It was probably the most badly written book I've ever read.

What the hell were the author and the editor THINKING!?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
I'm sure those of you in my age bracket remember when VC Andrews wrote her Flowers in the Attic series. Every girl in my middle school ate them up. They of course were not assigned reading but looking back I'm not so sure they were age appropriate reading. I don't think any of us were scarred for life by reading them but it was some pretty heavy material for 12 yo girls.
I remember those books. And no, I don't think those were inappropriate for 12 yr olds.
But I don't think 12 yr olds should be reading 50 Shades either.

I remember the first erotica book I read. I think I was 12 or 13. Don't remember the name of it but I do remember thinking my mom would flip out if she knew what I was reading.
But then again, we had a hefty Harlequin Romance books.
Hated that drivel.

I don't think 12 yr olds should read it, either! It was probably the most badly written book I've ever read.
What the hell were the author and the editor THINKING!?

I remember when it came out & people acted like it was unbelievable.

Erotic fiction is nothing new...and no, I didn't waste my time reading it.

flan

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Ohfour wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Her book is taught in every school across the country. The basketball coach you referenced is not.

Do YOU have any idea how YOU come across ?
No, its not. In fact, many schools have banned it...ah, the liberal agenda...

Who bans To Kill a Mockingbird???

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Her book is taught in every school across the country. The basketball coach you referenced is not.

Do YOU have any idea how YOU come across ?
No, its not. In fact, many schools have banned it...ah, the liberal agenda...
Who bans To Kill a Mockingbird???

Half the country.

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Her book is taught in every school across the country. The basketball coach you referenced is not.

Do YOU have any idea how YOU come across ?
No, its not. In fact, many schools have banned it...ah, the liberal agenda...
Who bans To Kill a Mockingbird???
Half the country.

I HATE BANNING BOOKS.

There is a beautiful quote from Neil Gaimen about how any book a child reads willingly is appropriate for him kr her because anything that fosters a love for reading is doing more good than harm.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

It is the most widely taught book in the country according to a survey of librarians and teachers.