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Ohfour · Hooker

RE: Healthcare Options

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
I would die without sex.
If it meant your wife would die, wouldn't be man enough to abstain?
I would like to think so.
Getting pregnant and sex are two different things. It's RIDICULOUS to assume that you shouldn't have sex because you shouldn't get pregnant--especially when you are married. Get sterilized.
And that could take time. How long are you willing to wait Husker? A week? 2 weeks? A month?

He did have kids. I'm assuming he abstained the requisite 6 weeks after.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Does anyone really wait the whole 6 weeks?

FNW · Guru

We did.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

You should really listen to your DOCTOR. -- Fat Amy

Cheerios4606 · Guru

I dont know bout anyone else, but I was totally not back in the groove at 6 weeks.

FNW · Guru

Me either. I remember at my 6 week check up my doctor told me I could ease into exercise. (Clearly, she didn't know me.) Anyway, one day I thought, what the heck, I'll give it a go, and laid on my back and tried to do leg lifts. Nothing moved. Tried to do a sit up. Nope, not happening. Even a few months later when I returned to work, I was in the cafe and dropped something. I went down to pick it up, but couldn't get back up. My legs were that weak. It was scary.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Didn't you have a C-section? I hear those are really hard to bounce back from.

FNW · Guru

Yes, I did.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I thought I remembered that.

Gosh. Seems like a lifetime ago but yesterday at the same time.

The babies ain't babies no more!

weltschmerz · Guru

I also had a C section. It took FOREVER to heal. So much pain.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I didn't have feeling back in my abdomen for two years. I mean I healed but I still had complete numbness.

TrudyML · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
I thought I remembered that.

Gosh. Seems like a lifetime ago but yesterday at the same time.

The babies ain't babies no more!

Seriously! Next we'll be hearing about them driving!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Gosh. I'm glad I didn't have to do that.

3 babies born the old fashioned way.

After a week, maybe two, I was all but fine.

The bruised feeling about day 3 was bad and the stitches were horrid. But I was good about 4-5 weeks after.

FNW · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
I thought I remembered that.

Gosh. Seems like a lifetime ago but yesterday at the same time.

The babies ain't babies no more!

I know! Seems like yesterday, but soooo long ago at the same time.

I still have numbness where the incision was made. Generally, healing wasn't bad for me. I got up after 24 hours on the mag sulfate drip and was walking around. Home after 4 days and was able to go up and down stairs with no problem. I didn't take any pain meds either. It was the overall weakness that lasted a long time.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

The last was the hardest for me to get over.

The other 2 had issues, with Caitlyn I developed an infection. With Jesse my blood count got dangerously low and I was basically mainlining iron.

But with Aaron, I decided to have an epidural. I was progressing so fast and the contractions were so close and intense, I wasn't able to maintain an oxygen level and was hyperventilating with the breathing techniques.

The candy man just got the test bag hooked up and running and I was just getting relaxed when my body practically ejected Aaron.

It was scary and funny at the same time.

But it seemed like it took forever to get over the side effects of the epidural.

FNW · Guru

I'm not sure whether I had an epidural or spinal, but there was a really long needle they put in my back. Afterwards, I was cold and shaking uncontrollably.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Aren't spinal and epidural the same thing?

They insert a needle into your spin, thread the tiny tube in, remove the needle and send in the Jesus juice.

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Aren't spinal and epidural the same thing?

They insert a needle into your spin, thread the tiny tube in, remove the needle and send in the Jesus juice.

No.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I thought they were.

What's the difference?

weltschmerz · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
Or do you have to wait and see if they will pay it? How do they determine if they will pay your bill or not? What do you do if they don't? You are up the creek then.

I was reading about a gentleman with acute Myeloid leukemia who needs a stem cell transplant in Texas.

The cost is 1.3 million dollars.

Most people don't have that kind of money in their couch cushions while they wait to see if the church will pay them back.

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
I thought they were.

What's the difference?

http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/epidural-and-spinal-anesthesia-topic-overview

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

weltschmerz wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Or do you have to wait and see if they will pay it? How do they determine if they will pay your bill or not? What do you do if they don't? You are up the creek then.
I was reading about a gentleman with acute Myeloid leukemia who needs a stem cell transplant in Texas.
The cost is 1.3 million dollars.
Most people don't have that kind of money in their couch cushions while they wait to see if the church will pay them back.

And a preemie baby can easily be that expensive. Are you supposed to pay the full bill and then wait for the church to decide if your baby is worth it and get reimbursed? What if the church doesn't have the 1.3 mill or what if that's all they have and they don't want to spend it all on one person?

FNW · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Aren't spinal and epidural the same thing?

They insert a needle into your spin, thread the tiny tube in, remove the needle and send in the Jesus juice.

No.

For which? I don't think a tiny tube was put in, just the long needle. The surgeon, a big, strapping man with whom I flirted, held me so he could lay me down once the needle was out. They laid me down and strapped my arms to boards, outstretched. I had two anesthesiologists present. One by my head talking to me, and the other monitoring my vitals. I had eaten before surgery so there was concern I would vomit. They told me the two times I would be more likely to feel nausea. I felt it the second time but took deep breaths and it went away quickly. It was when they started stitching me back up.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

FNW wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Aren't spinal and epidural the same thing?

They insert a needle into your spin, thread the tiny tube in, remove the needle and send in the Jesus juice.

No.
For which? I don't think a tiny tube was put in, just the long needle. The surgeon, a big, strapping man with whom I flirted, held me so he could lay me down once the needle was out. They laid me down and strapped my arms to boards, outstretched. I had two anesthesiologists present. One by my head talking to me, and the other monitoring my vitals. I had eaten before surgery so there was concern I would vomit. They told me the two times I would be more likely to feel nausea. I felt it the second time but took deep breaths and it went away quickly. It was when they started stitching me back up.

That's how they did my epidural.

I didn't think the actual needle would be left in at all no matter what anymore.

As for being strapped down, that would make me lose my chickens.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

To me - and I begrudge no woman her methods of getting through child birth - to me, an epidural sounds worse than the damn child birth.

I had 2 the "au natural" way. Not by choice the second time, it was back labor and it hurt worse than anything but she was coming too fast for them to give me a darn thing. No drugs, no stitches, but one hellacious retained placenta the second time that almost killed me. I had emergency surgery right after birth and missed almost all of the bonding afterwards. I got 5 minutes and that was it. I was bleeding out.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Mellow Momma wrote:
To me - and I begrudge no woman her methods of getting through child birth - to me, an epidural sounds worse than the damn child birth.

I had 2 the "au natural" way. Not by choice the second time, it was back labor and it hurt worse than anything but she was coming too fast for them to give me a darn thing. No drugs, no stitches, but one hellacious retained placenta the second time that almost killed me. I had emergency surgery right after birth and missed almost all of the bonding afterwards. I got 5 minutes and that was it. I was bleeding out.

The thought of putting a needle in my spine freaked me out.

I was lucky that both labors were reasonably short.

How frightening, MM.

flan

FNW · Guru

I knew about the long needles so when I turned my head and saw it I looked up at Dr. McDreamy and said, "oh, boy, the big needle. Hold me." LOL I had no choice in the matter either.

I didn't have any bonding time either. They showed each one to me briefly. I don't know any different so I don't feel I missed out on anything. I've had plenty of time to bond ever since...

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I had back labor with my first. Slept through it. My mom got mad at me and told me to wake up because I was having a baby. The second I had c-sect. I don't remember what I had but I remember the nurse saying to put my forehead on her shoulder and roll my back out as much as I could. To this day I remember her horrible BO. My third I had VBAC.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Mellow Momma wrote:
To me - and I begrudge no woman her methods of getting through child birth - to me, an epidural sounds worse than the damn child birth.

I had 2 the "au natural" way. Not by choice the second time, it was back labor and it hurt worse than anything but she was coming too fast for them to give me a darn thing. No drugs, no stitches, but one hellacious retained placenta the second time that almost killed me. I had emergency surgery right after birth and missed almost all of the bonding afterwards. I got 5 minutes and that was it. I was bleeding out.

If I hadn't beensuffocating both me and Aaron because the contractions were so close and so intense, I would not have had mine.

I had two without anything.

Aaron was born almost 3 hours after the first contraction.

My body expelled him. I didn't really push.

Tangerine · Guru

Shoot. I wouldn't have made it without the epidural. Pitocin is a bitch.
In the class they said it would hurt, then you get a break. Not with an induction. It hurts really bad then it hurts incredibly bad then it goes bad to hurting really bad. And it just kept getting worse.
Until I had an episiotomy, I had no idea that one sits directly on the taint. Couldn't sit for a week.
But I did feel much better after about a week. So glad I didn't need sectioning.

weltschmerz · Guru

Tangerine wrote:
Shoot. I wouldn't have made it without the epidural. Pitocin is a bitch.
In the class they said it would hurt, then you get a break. Not with an induction. It hurts really bad then it hurts incredibly bad then it goes bad to hurting really bad. And it just kept getting worse.
Until I had an episiotomy, I had no idea that one sits directly on the taint. Couldn't sit for a week.
But I did feel much better after about a week. So glad I didn't need sectioning.

Lol! Where did you think your taint was?

Tangerine · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Tangerine wrote:
Shoot. I wouldn't have made it without the epidural. Pitocin is a bitch.
In the class they said it would hurt, then you get a break. Not with an induction. It hurts really bad then it hurts incredibly bad then it goes bad to hurting really bad. And it just kept getting worse.
Until I had an episiotomy, I had no idea that one sits directly on the taint. Couldn't sit for a week.
But I did feel much better after about a week. So glad I didn't need sectioning.
Lol! Where did you think your taint was?

I knew it was down there. I just thought that the butt and thighs took more of the brunt of sitting. I was wrong.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I didn't have stitches either. I weighed 130 lbs 9months pregnant and probably looked like I would rip to shreds. I told the doc no episiotomy, let me tear naturally where I needed to. Never happened. 8lb baby came out without a stitch. Not sure how. DH said it all just wiggles and does what it has to do! Lol

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Tangerine wrote:
Shoot. I wouldn't have made it without the epidural. Pitocin is a bitch.
In the class they said it would hurt, then you get a break. Not with an induction. It hurts really bad then it hurts incredibly bad then it goes bad to hurting really bad. And it just kept getting worse.
Until I had an episiotomy, I had no idea that one sits directly on the taint. Couldn't sit for a week.
But I did feel much better after about a week. So glad I didn't need sectioning.

The pitocin does hurt more. I was induced with Jesse.

I had an episiotomy with all three and still tore really badly.

Aren't sitz baths the best thing ever?

FNW · Guru

I didn't get any stretch marks. I'm proud of that.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

FNW wrote:
I didn't get any stretch marks. I'm proud of that.

Wow! With twins that's quite an accomplishment!! I had stretch marks by the 3rd month.

FNW · Guru

Yeah, my mother kept telling me they'd show up after the weight came off. I even had her check for me in case I just wasn't seeing them. Nope.

I used palmer's every day after I showered. Even after I had them, because I still had some and wanted to use it up.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Mine are far less noticeable now than they were at the time. I had one that was almost bleeding it was so deep. Now I can't even find that one. It bothered me for about a day or two. Then you get into mommy mode and realize that stuff doesn't matter anymore. All that matters is that beautiful baby!

FNW · Guru

Right. When I was prego I was planning my tummy tucks, etc., even asked the doctors if they could do it while I was on the table but no, my insides needed to return to their proper places first. Then as time when on those things don't matter anymore.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
To me - and I begrudge no woman her methods of getting through child birth - to me, an epidural sounds worse than the damn child birth.

I had 2 the "au natural" way. Not by choice the second time, it was back labor and it hurt worse than anything but she was coming too fast for them to give me a darn thing. No drugs, no stitches, but one hellacious retained placenta the second time that almost killed me. I had emergency surgery right after birth and missed almost all of the bonding afterwards. I got 5 minutes and that was it. I was bleeding out.

I agree - there was no way in hell. DH didn't believe me until he saw the video of the needle in parenting class and then he was all on board the "no way" train.

I had pitocin and staydol. No epidural. Needed one stitch.

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
I would die without sex.
If it meant your wife would die, wouldn't be man enough to abstain?
I would like to think so.
Getting pregnant and sex are two different things. It's RIDICULOUS to assume that you shouldn't have sex because you shouldn't get pregnant--especially when you are married. Get sterilized.
And that could take time. How long are you willing to wait Husker? A week? 2 weeks? A month?

???? It doesn't take long, at all. A month would be the very most.

Ohfour · Hooker

So you forced your wife to have sex against doctors orders? You are a gem...NOT...

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
So you forced your wife to have sex against doctors orders? You are a gem...NOT...

What in God's name are you babbling about?

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
So you forced your wife to have sex against doctors orders? You are a gem...NOT...
What in God's name are you babbling about?

Every doctor says no sex for 6 weeks after birth. EVERY. Did you go against drs orders and have sex with your wife sooner?

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Both kids were au natural. No time for anything. I was lucky to make it to a doctor in both cases.

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
So you forced your wife to have sex against doctors orders? You are a gem...NOT...
What in God's name are you babbling about?
Every doctor says no sex for 6 weeks after birth. EVERY. Did you go against drs orders and have sex with your wife sooner?

Again, WTF are you talking about???? No one said anything about birthing babies or any other nonsense you are now making up.

The conversation was about being pregnant being a LIFE THREATENING SITUATION and the answer to that being permanent celibacy--which is what I was responding to.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
So you forced your wife to have sex against doctors orders? You are a gem...NOT...
What in God's name are you babbling about?
Every doctor says no sex for 6 weeks after birth. EVERY. Did you go against drs orders and have sex with your wife sooner?
Again, WTF are you talking about???? No one said anything about birthing babies or any other nonsense you are now making up.
The conversation was about being pregnant being a LIFE THREATENING SITUATION and the answer to that being permanent celibacy--which is what I was responding to.

Several posters commented on the post birth limitation. Are you being dense again?

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
So you forced your wife to have sex against doctors orders? You are a gem...NOT...
What in God's name are you babbling about?
Every doctor says no sex for 6 weeks after birth. EVERY. Did you go against drs orders and have sex with your wife sooner?
Again, WTF are you talking about???? No one said anything about birthing babies or any other nonsense you are now making up.
The conversation was about being pregnant being a LIFE THREATENING SITUATION and the answer to that being permanent celibacy--which is what I was responding to.

Several posters commented on the post birth limitation. Are you being dense again?

Which is NOT what I was commenting on, or what the conversation was. READ the post I responded to--NOTHING was said about that.

huskerbb · Guru

Also, the post birth limitation--if you want to bring that up--is NOT life or death, and therefore not relevant to the conversation in any way.

The topic was permanent celibacy--not six weeks or any other such nonsense.