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ed11563 · Guru

RE: Former Abortionist Uses Medical Animations To Show What Happens To Baby and Mother During Abortion

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

ed11563 wrote:
just Czech wrote:

If you can't watch a depiction of an abortion, you need to rethink your reasons why.
No, I don't.

IMHO, you can no longer justify abortion if you can not observe the (animated) death of a preborn human being.

(not meant to be snarky)

Science suxz.

ed11563 · Guru

just Czech wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
just Czech wrote:

If you can't watch a depiction of an abortion, you need to rethink your reasons why.
No, I don't.
IMHO, you can no longer justify abortion if you can not observe the (animated) death of a preborn human being.
(not meant to be snarky)
Science suxz.

The Jewish religious belief is that humans become babies when they take their first breath.

My personal belief is that, prior to that, I don't care what the girls do to their bodies. Not my circus, not my monkey.

Girls living in the ghettos (housing projects) in New York, know that there is a 20% chance that if they have a male baby, he will die a violent death before he reaches 25.

And female babies have a high risk of having violence in their lives. their whole lives.

If they have abortions so THEY and any children they have later, have a better chance of survival, a better chance to thrive ...

not my circus, not my monkey, not my decision to make for them.

And not yours -- anyone's -- either.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

ed11563 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
just Czech wrote:

If you can't watch a depiction of an abortion, you need to rethink your reasons why.
No, I don't.
IMHO, you can no longer justify abortion if you can not observe the (animated) death of a preborn human being.
(not meant to be snarky)
Science suxz.
The Jewish religious belief is that humans become babies when they take their first breath. I thought you didn't practice your religion, but Jeremiah 1:5 says, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart". Old Testament, I guess I believe God on this one.
My personal belief is that, prior to that, I don't care what the girls do to their bodies. Not my circus, not my monkey.

Girls living in the ghettos (housing projects) in New York, know that there is a 20% chance that if they have a male baby, he will die a violent death before he reaches 25.
And female babies have a high risk of having violence in their lives. their whole lives.

If they have abortions so THEY and any children they have later, have a better chance of survival, a better chance to thrive ...

not my circus, not my monkey, not my decision to make for them.
And not yours -- anyone's -- either.

Science proves they are killing a living human being. Abortionists and supporter's can no longer say "it's just a blob of tissue."

Are you supportive of ghetto programs to end the violence? Do you give such groups money?

IMHO, it is everyone's circus and everyone's monkey.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

What about getting birth control in those "ghettos"?

ed11563 · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
What about getting birth control in those "ghettos"?

Wonderful idea. When the city proposed giving away condoms in the schools, the Church raised Hell .

And The Believers also fight tooth and nail to shut down Planned Parenthood, which for many is the ONLY source they have for accurate information about birth control.

The Believers and The Church teach "Abstinence Only" then The Rhythm Method, both of which lead to a constant supply of unintended pregnancies, and the next generation of people to fill the pews in church.

And in the Ghetto, an ongoing supply of gang-bangers and girls for them to rape.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
What about getting birth control in those "ghettos"?

Wonderful idea. When the city proposed giving away condoms in the schools, the Church raised Hell .
And The Believers also fight tooth and nail to shut down Planned Parenthood, which for many is the ONLY source they have for accurate information about birth control.
The Believers and The Church teach "Abstinence Only" then The Rhythm Method, both of which lead to a constant supply of unintended pregnancies, and the next generation of people to fill the pews in church.
And in the Ghetto, an ongoing supply of gang-bangers and girls for them to rape.

PP is not the only resource for birth control or condoms. Stop using that excuse when we know it is false.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

What's the excuse for the other 70% of abortions? The ones not from the ghettos?

ed11563 · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
What's the excuse for the other 70% of abortions? The ones not from the ghettos?

Again,

not my circus, not my monkey,

don't care.

Is it YOUR circus? Your monkey?

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
What's the excuse for the other 70% of abortions? The ones not from the ghettos?
Again,
not my circus, not my monkey,
don't care.

Is it YOUR circus? Your monkey?

Ed, it is everyone's circus and everyone's monkey. Science proves it's a human baby, not a blob. Someone has to be the voice of the preborn.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
What's the excuse for the other 70% of abortions? The ones not from the ghettos?
Again,
not my circus, not my monkey,
don't care.

Is it YOUR circus? Your monkey?

Yes.

Because I believe murder is wrong.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

But, Lily, how can you kill something that isn't alive?

Sorry, I just had to interject that old myth.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
What's the excuse for the other 70% of abortions? The ones not from the ghettos?
Again,
not my circus, not my monkey,
don't care.

Is it YOUR circus? Your monkey?

So if someone wants to beat and kill and abuse their 9 yr old then you are good with that?

Ohfour · Hooker

ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
What's the excuse for the other 70% of abortions? The ones not from the ghettos?
Again,
not my circus, not my monkey,
don't care.

Is it YOUR circus? Your monkey?

By that way of thinking, only the Jews should have been concerned about the Holocaust. I dont see you telling the people that saved your ancestors asses that...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Good point.

ed11563 · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
What's the excuse for the other 70% of abortions? The ones not from the ghettos?
Again,
not my circus, not my monkey,
don't care.

Is it YOUR circus? Your monkey?

By that way of thinking, only the Jews should have been concerned about the Holocaust. I dont see you telling the people that saved your ancestors asses that...

No one who KNEW about the Holocaust did anything about it.

Israel was cut out of Palestine in 1947 with the clear understanding that the surrounding Arab nations would immediately finish the job Hitler had started, by wiping the Jews off the face of the Earth.

Those Jews happened to be much better fighters though, and won.

In 1963, when the Arabs attacked again, the Jews were again much better fighters, and were winning, but were running out of ammunition. The United States government again didn't give a damn, until it came out that the Israelis had NUKES, and would, as a last resort, turn all the oil fields into a big nuclear wasteland if they had to.

With that threat, the U.S. resupplied the Israelis with arms and ammunition.

What has NOT changed since 1935, is that the Jews in the Middle East, are the only ones there who do NOT want to wipe all the Infidels off the face of the Earth.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Funny.

My grandfather had nightmares for the rest of his life after witnessing the carnage of war trying to liberate the Jewish prisoners of WWII.

Glad to know his lifelong suffering and the deaths and suffering of his fellow soldiers mean so very little to you.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Funny.

My grandfather had nightmares for the rest of his life after witnessing the carnage of war trying to liberate the Jewish prisoners of WWII.

Glad to know his lifelong suffering and the deaths and suffering of his fellow soldiers mean so very little to you.

Somehow, I don't find that funny at all.

The implication that Americans gave their lives to free the Jews only so they could be killed by someone else is disgusting. It's as bad as Holocaust deniers.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

What? He is saying no one helped the Jews during WWII.

That's not true.

ed11563 · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Funny.

My grandfather had nightmares for the rest of his life after witnessing the carnage of war trying to liberate the Jewish prisoners of WWII.

Glad to know his lifelong suffering and the deaths and suffering of his fellow soldiers mean so very little to you.

Somehow, I don't find that funny at all.
The implication that Americans gave their lives to free the Jews only so they could be killed by someone else is disgusting. It's as bad as Holocaust deniers.

If you believe that the United States joined WWII for the specific purpose of saving European Jews, you've been seriously misled.

Remember Pearl Harbor?

Remember that Hitler was making a valiant effort to take over all of Europe?

The Allied soldiers who stumbled on the Death Camps had no idea they would find what they found.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
What? He is saying no one helped the Jews during WWII.

That's not true.

I know. I was agreeing with you.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

ed11563 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Funny.

My grandfather had nightmares for the rest of his life after witnessing the carnage of war trying to liberate the Jewish prisoners of WWII.

Glad to know his lifelong suffering and the deaths and suffering of his fellow soldiers mean so very little to you.

Somehow, I don't find that funny at all.
The implication that Americans gave their lives to free the Jews only so they could be killed by someone else is disgusting. It's as bad as Holocaust deniers.
If you believe that the United States joined WWII for the specific purpose of saving European Jews, you've been seriously misled.
Remember Pearl Harbor?
Remember that Hitler was making a valiant effort to take over all of Europe?
The Allied soldiers who stumbled on the Death Camps had no idea they would find what they found.

No. It wasn't the sole reason.

But I don't remember the US stopping once it blew Hiroshima and Nagasaki off the map either.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
What? He is saying no one helped the Jews during WWII.

That's not true.

I know. I was agreeing with you.

Oh. Sorry.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

ed11563 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Funny.

My grandfather had nightmares for the rest of his life after witnessing the carnage of war trying to liberate the Jewish prisoners of WWII.

Glad to know his lifelong suffering and the deaths and suffering of his fellow soldiers mean so very little to you.

Somehow, I don't find that funny at all.
The implication that Americans gave their lives to free the Jews only so they could be killed by someone else is disgusting. It's as bad as Holocaust deniers.
If you believe that the United States joined WWII for the specific purpose of saving European Jews, you've been seriously misled.
Remember Pearl Harbor?
Remember that Hitler was making a valiant effort to take over all of Europe?
The Allied soldiers who stumbled on the Death Camps had no idea they would find what they found.

The American government was aware of what was happening - if you think no one knew, you have not studied enough. And yes, I remember Pearl Harbor. I also remember Japan surrendered after the bombs were dropped - we could have done the same thing in Germany.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

ed11563 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Funny.

My grandfather had nightmares for the rest of his life after witnessing the carnage of war trying to liberate the Jewish prisoners of WWII.

Glad to know his lifelong suffering and the deaths and suffering of his fellow soldiers mean so very little to you.

Somehow, I don't find that funny at all.
The implication that Americans gave their lives to free the Jews only so they could be killed by someone else is disgusting. It's as bad as Holocaust deniers.
If you believe that the United States joined WWII for the specific purpose of saving European Jews, you've been seriously misled.
Remember Pearl Harbor?
Remember that Hitler was making a valiant effort to take over all of Europe?
The Allied soldiers who stumbled on the Death Camps had no idea they would find what they found.

Oh and Hitler didn't just roll in with a tank and take over in one day.

He was ELECTED. Put into power. He rose through the ranks and began taking over one little right at a time.

Tinydancer · Guru

No one remembers the sacrifices we have made for them. ed if you don't believe America is Israels staunches ally then you are denying history. But guess what? We'll still defend those who deny us because that's what we do. What this has to do with women killing their unborn children is beyond me. You pretend to be a man of medicine. One who knows the miracle of medicine yet you'll deny a baby is a baby. Deny it all you want you're part of the problem.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

You need to start thinking about abortion as the new holocaust on the preborn. 54 million have died so far.

Should we not have stopped Hitler?

And that is why we have to stop abortion today.

It's just a different form of war.

It is not a war on women, it is a war on humanity.

Lindley · Guru

just Czech wrote:
You need to start thinking about abortion as the new holocaust on the preborn. 54 million have died so far.

Should we not have stopped Hitler?

And that is why we have to stop abortion today.

It's just a different form of war.

It is not a war on women, it is a war on humanity.

You are so right.

weltschmerz · Guru

Let's not forget that the US helped the Nazis.

Backing Nazis

Large American banks – and George W. Bush’s grandfather – financed the Nazis.

American manufacturing companies were big supporters of the Nazis. here are 6 historical examples

www.globalresearch.ca/secret-history-the-u-s-supported-and-inspired-the-nazis/5439236

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

W did it! Bush derangement syndrome! Wah!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

So are you gonna answer the part about Abortion being the new Holocaust or are you just gonna pretend you don't understand reproductive science and pretend it's not a human being?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

just Czech wrote:
You need to start thinking about abortion as the new holocaust on the preborn. 54 million have died so far.

Should we not have stopped Hitler?

And that is why we have to stop abortion today.

It's just a different form of war.

It is not a war on women, it is a war on humanity.

Yes, we've all heard the comparisons.

The difference is CHOICE.

And how in the world do 54 million UNWANTED babies make the world a better place?

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Did those 54 unwanted babies CHOOSE to die? How would the world be better with 6 million more Jews? Wow.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
What's the excuse for the other 70% of abortions? The ones not from the ghettos?
Again,
not my circus, not my monkey,
don't care.

Is it YOUR circus? Your monkey?

So if someone wants to beat and kill and abuse their 9 yr old then you are good with that?

You're more intelligent than that.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

It's a fair comparison. Abortion is the ultimate child abuse.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
It's a fair comparison. Abortion is the ultimate child abuse.

Yeah, I've never heard THAT before...Another cliche!

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Funny how you can turn a dead child into a 'cliche". But, carry on with your scoffing, mocking and minimizing the gravity of what abortion truly is.

Lindley · Guru

flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
You need to start thinking about abortion as the new holocaust on the preborn. 54 million have died so far.

Should we not have stopped Hitler?

And that is why we have to stop abortion today.

It's just a different form of war.

It is not a war on women, it is a war on humanity.
Yes, we've all heard the comparisons.
The difference is CHOICE.
And how in the world do 54 million UNWANTED babies make the world a better place?
flan

We will never know since those precious lives never had a chance or choice to live their lives.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

And how in the world do 54 million UNWANTED babies make the world a better place?
flan

This is literally one of the most disturbing things you have ever posted.

ed11563 · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
And how in the world do 54 million UNWANTED babies make the world a better place?
flan

This is literally one of the most disturbing things you have ever posted.

I suspect that the New York City administration considered that, without free birth control in the middle and high school, and free abortions in the City owned hospitals,

they would have had at least 100,000 additional Welfare babies and Welfare-for-life teenage Moms.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
And how in the world do 54 million UNWANTED babies make the world a better place?
flan

This is literally one of the most disturbing things you have ever posted.

It's a valid question.

Life isn't all sunshine & rainbows.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
And how in the world do 54 million UNWANTED babies make the world a better place?
flan

This is literally one of the most disturbing things you have ever posted.
It's a valid question.
Life isn't all sunshine & rainbows.
flan

By that logic, we should be able to kill anyone "unwanted".

Ohfour · Hooker

Well, how would not killing those 6 million jews make the world a better place? I mean, we still live in a pretty great world right. They really werent needed to carry on humanity...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
And how in the world do 54 million UNWANTED babies make the world a better place?
flan

This is literally one of the most disturbing things you have ever posted.
It's a valid question.
Life isn't all sunshine & rainbows.
flan
By that logic, we should be able to kill anyone "unwanted".

YOU should be able to choose for YOURSELF.

flan

ed11563 · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Well, how would not killing those 6 million jews make the world a better place? I mean, we still live in a pretty great world right. They really werent needed to carry on humanity...

Oh, sure, you're clearly serious here ... blankstare

By the way, in 1930 the world population included about 10 million Jews.

In 1945 it was 4 million.

In 2000, it was back up to about 10 million.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
And how in the world do 54 million UNWANTED babies make the world a better place?
flan

This is literally one of the most disturbing things you have ever posted.
It's a valid question.
Life isn't all sunshine & rainbows.
flan
By that logic, we should be able to kill anyone "unwanted".
YOU should be able to choose for YOURSELF.
flan

What part of Yourself do keep pretending not to understand?

ed11563 · Guru

Why do people support Off Track Betting and State Lotteries, when these clearly siphon money from the poor, and others who can't really afford it?

It's a "voluntary tax", people are choosing to pay.

If abortion in the United States is genocide, since a lot of the babies would have been members of racial minorities,

it's voluntary. Still voluntary.

Ohfour · Hooker

ed11563 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Well, how would not killing those 6 million jews make the world a better place? I mean, we still live in a pretty great world right. They really werent needed to carry on humanity...
Oh, sure, you're clearly serious here ...

By the way, in 1930 the world population included about 10 million Jews.
In 1945 it was 4 million.
In 2000, it was back up to about 10 million.

So it really didnt make a difference in the long run, right? Thats what you are saying...

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

ed11563 wrote:
Why do people support Off Track Betting and State Lotteries, when these clearly siphon money from the poor, and others who can't really afford it?

It's a "voluntary tax", people are choosing to pay.

If abortion in the United States is genocide, since a lot of the babies would have been members of racial minorities,

it's voluntary. Still voluntary.

You are going to compare gambling on a horse to killing a human being? Amazing how ridiculous your position is when you actually have to defend it logically.

ed11563 · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Well, how would not killing those 6 million jews make the world a better place? I mean, we still live in a pretty great world right. They really werent needed to carry on humanity...
Oh, sure, you're clearly serious here ...

By the way, in 1930 the world population included about 10 million Jews.
In 1945 it was 4 million.
In 2000, it was back up to about 10 million.

So it really didn't make a difference in the long run, right? That's what you are saying...

Considering the percentage of Nobel prized awarded to Jews, the number of medical break-throughs achieved by Jewish doctors, the possibility that the Nazis killed the next 6 geniuses who might have cured cancer or diabetes or heart disease,

There's no way to calculate the damage wreaked on Humanity by the Holocaust.

You may now stop putting words in my mouth. Thank you.