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No kidding.

And it was fun!

My cousins and I went all the way to Pigeon Forge in the bed of pawpaws pick up.

It's at least 4 hours from here.

And we went crooked back roads with lots of lumps and bumps and ate McDonald's as we went.




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There is always some risk in life. Without any risk--there is no fun.

I don't want to live like that--and I don't want my kids and grandkids to live that way, either.

My grandpa had a 1917 Model T Touring. One time, he drove all the way to the county seat and back in it with all us grandkids for a parade. There were THIRTEEN of us kids in that old Model T.



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There is always some risk in life. Without any risk--there is no fun.

I don't want to live like that--and I don't want my kids and grandkids to live that way, either.

My grandpa had a 1917 Model T Touring. One time, he drove all the way to the county seat and back in it with all us grandkids for a parade. There were THIRTEEN of us kids in that old Model T.


 But a child is not qualified to decide about motor vehicle safety.

You are the one who keeps telling us how many kids are killed in auto accidents.

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There is always some risk in life. Without any risk--there is no fun.

I don't want to live like that--and I don't want my kids and grandkids to live that way, either.

My grandpa had a 1917 Model T Touring. One time, he drove all the way to the county seat and back in it with all us grandkids for a parade. There were THIRTEEN of us kids in that old Model T.


 But a child is not qualified to decide about motor vehicle safety.

You are the one who keeps telling us how many kids are killed in auto accidents.

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 And they are not making the decisions.  

 

As to your second point--see, all the car seats and seatbelts don't do squat, anyway.  Kids still die.  



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Husker, I'm trying to picture 13 kids!  Some on laps I imagine...



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I guess it's better if the pick-up gets into an accident and the kids are ejected from the truck bed, smashing their skulls open.
That will show those politically correct dweebs!

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I guess it's better if the pick-up gets into an accident and the kids are ejected from the truck bed, smashing their skulls open.
That will show those politically correct dweebs!


 Kids still get killed in car accidents--even if they have all the safety features on.  



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Husker, I'm trying to picture 13 kids!  Some on laps I imagine...


 Oh yeah.  We were at least two deep.  A Model T isn't that wide, either.  

I was the oldest, so at the time I would have been 9 or so.  There were three babies that probably weren't even a year old, less than two, for sure.  



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weltschmerz wrote:

I guess it's better if the pick-up gets into an accident and the kids are ejected from the truck bed, smashing their skulls open.
That will show those politically correct dweebs!


 Did you have ANY fun growing up? 



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One time we crawled out the back window to the boat we were pulling and back. While the car was moving. Good times.

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When we were teenagers, there wasn't any such thing at the time as an extended cab or crew cab pickup (they had them, but they were rare and no one around us had one).

When you wanted to go somewhere, you piled 3 or 4 in the front--and the rest in back.

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When we were teenagers, there wasn't any such thing at the time as an extended cab or crew cab pickup (they had them, but they were rare and no one around us had one).

When you wanted to go somewhere, you piled 3 or 4 in the front--and the rest in back.


 Yep. And no one wore helmets when riding their bicycles!



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My first car was a cavalier station wagon. With no air. We PACKED into it. About smothered to death, but hey, a car was a car, right?

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My first car was a cavalier station wagon. With no air. We PACKED into it. About smothered to death, but hey, a car was a car, right?


 My mom and dad had a station wagon.  We'd always sneak someone into the drive-in theatre in the back. 



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I guess it's better if the pick-up gets into an accident and the kids are ejected from the truck bed, smashing their skulls open.
That will show those politically correct dweebs!


 Did you have ANY fun growing up? 


I had lots of fun growing up, thank you. 



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I guess it's better if the pick-up gets into an accident and the kids are ejected from the truck bed, smashing their skulls open.
That will show those politically correct dweebs!


 Did you have ANY fun growing up? 


I had lots of fun growing up, thank you. 


 Of course she had fun--she just doesn't want anyone to have any NOW.  

ZERO FUN.  



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weltschmerz wrote:
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I guess it's better if the pick-up gets into an accident and the kids are ejected from the truck bed, smashing their skulls open.
That will show those politically correct dweebs!


 Did you have ANY fun growing up? 


I had lots of fun growing up, thank you. 


Not if 04 says differently.

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huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:

I guess it's better if the pick-up gets into an accident and the kids are ejected from the truck bed, smashing their skulls open.
That will show those politically correct dweebs!


 Kids still get killed in car accidents--even if they have all the safety features on.  


 Oh, FFS.

Let's MINIMIZE the number of deaths because we have the KNOWLEDGE.

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I'm not OK with kids dying or living the rest of their lives as vegetables.


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huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:

I guess it's better if the pick-up gets into an accident and the kids are ejected from the truck bed, smashing their skulls open.
That will show those politically correct dweebs!


 Kids still get killed in car accidents--even if they have all the safety features on.  


 Oh, FFS.

Let's MINIMIZE the number of deaths because we have the KNOWLEDGE.

flan


 Let's put all kids in a bubble and make deaths ZERO.

 

No swimming--pool, oceans, rivers, or lakes, even unsupervised baths are out for children under 12.

No riding in automobiles--EVER.  This includes anything with a motor such as go-carts and 4-wheelers, as well.

No riding bikes.

No riding skateboards.

No riding horses.

No playing sports.

No mowing the lawn.

 

 



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I'm not OK with kids dying or living the rest of their lives as vegetables.


 It happened then, it happens now. Yet, its never happened to anyone I know. I dont think its as big a problem as the libs would like us to believe. ..



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I'm not OK with kids dying or living the rest of their lives as vegetables.


 No one is--but EVERYTHING carries some risk.

Are you going to outlaw riding bikes?  Kids get hurt on those even if they are wearing a helmet.

Outlaw sports?  Despite all our safety equipment, kids still get hurt playing them.  

Outlaw swimming?  Drowning is a leading cause of child deaths.  



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My first car was a cavalier station wagon. With no air. We PACKED into it. About smothered to death, but hey, a car was a car, right?


 My mom and dad had a station wagon.  We'd always sneak someone into the drive-in theatre in the back. 


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huskerbb wrote:
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I'm not OK with kids dying or living the rest of their lives as vegetables.


 No one is--but EVERYTHING carries some risk.

Are you going to outlaw riding bikes?  Kids get hurt on those even if they are wearing a helmet.

Outlaw sports?  Despite all our safety equipment, kids still get hurt playing them.  

Outlaw swimming?  Drowning is a leading cause of child deaths.  


 Cant wait for the response to this one...



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Ohfour wrote:
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I'm not OK with kids dying or living the rest of their lives as vegetables.


 It happened then, it happens now. Yet, its never happened to anyone I know. I dont think its as big a problem as the libs would like us to believe. ..


As usual, if it never happened to anyone you know, or never happened in your town, it doesn't exist.

It happened to someone I know. 



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Why should anyone deign to give husker's BS a response?

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Why should anyone deign to give husker's BS a response?

flan


Husker is all about extremes, all about black or white.

There's no grey in his world. 



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So, no response. Just what I thought.

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weltschmerz wrote:
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I'm not OK with kids dying or living the rest of their lives as vegetables.


 It happened then, it happens now. Yet, its never happened to anyone I know. I dont think its as big a problem as the libs would like us to believe. ..


As usual, if it never happened to anyone you know, or never happened in your town, it doesn't exist.

It happened to someone I know. 


 Having a hard time reading tonight? I said it happens.

 



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Why should anyone deign to give husker's BS a response?

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 Which means you know you have nothing but nonsense to contribute.  Per usual.  



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huskerbb wrote:
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Why should anyone deign to give husker's BS a response?

flan


 Which means you know you have nothing but nonsense to contribute.  Per usual.  


 Put your grandkids at risk. I don't care.

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Ohfour wrote:

So, no response. Just what I thought.


 Oh, FFS.

Yes, we must outlaw everything.

Feel better now?

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I'm not OK with kids dying or living the rest of their lives as vegetables.


 No one is--but EVERYTHING carries some risk.

Are you going to outlaw riding bikes?  Kids get hurt on those even if they are wearing a helmet.

Outlaw sports?  Despite all our safety equipment, kids still get hurt playing them.  

Outlaw swimming?  Drowning is a leading cause of child deaths.  


Yeah, but you could mitigate those risks....like watching your kid when he's swimming. 



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Why should anyone deign to give husker's BS a response?

flan


 Which means you know you have nothing but nonsense to contribute.  Per usual.  


 Put your grandkids at risk. I don't care.

flan


 Again, they ARE at risk.  LOTS of things are risks.  Are we going to disallow EVERYTHING that poses a "risk"?



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weltschmerz wrote:
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I'm not OK with kids dying or living the rest of their lives as vegetables.


 No one is--but EVERYTHING carries some risk.

Are you going to outlaw riding bikes?  Kids get hurt on those even if they are wearing a helmet.

Outlaw sports?  Despite all our safety equipment, kids still get hurt playing them.  

Outlaw swimming?  Drowning is a leading cause of child deaths.  


Yeah, but you could mitigate those risks....like watching your kid when he's swimming. 


 If you can't swim--that won't do any good.  My mom couldn't.  We still swam in the river.

You can "mitigate" the risks of having kids in the back of a pickup--and most people do.  They aren't driving down the interstate at 80 miles an hour.  Normally, they are going fairly slow on roads that don't see a lot of traffic.  That IS mitigating that risk.  



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My first car was a cavalier station wagon. With no air. We PACKED into it. About smothered to death, but hey, a car was a car, right?


 My mom and dad had a station wagon.  We'd always sneak someone into the drive-in theatre in the back. 


 I miss my 74 dodge dart....good times!


 OMG I has a 72 dodge dart sport!  Loved that car.  MOPAR!



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So what I find Ironic is how the libs want kids in car seats to age 8 or the height of 4'8" I believe, at least in Ma. BUT they want to chastise the owners of SUVs because of gas usage. But if you have three kids you cannot safely buckle in 3 car seats in the back of a prius or other small car. You have to have an SUV of minivan.

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So what I find Ironic is how the libs want kids in car seats to age 8 or the height of 4'8" I believe, at least in Ma. BUT they want to chastise the owners of SUVs because of gas usage. But if you have three kids you cannot safely buckle in 3 car seats in the back of a prius or other small car. You have to have an SUV of minivan.


The Highlander Hybrid I drove for 3 years got better mileage than the Prius. 



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So many things we did that our kids will never enjoy.



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So many things we did that our kids will never enjoy.


 When people reminisce about "the good ol' days," they usually aren't.

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flan327 wrote:
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So many things we did that our kids will never enjoy.


 When people reminisce about "the good ol' days," they usually aren't.

flan


 But riding in the back of a pickup absolutely was.  



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I would have to say that it was a time of innocence and freedom but that doesn't mean that I would do away with seatbelts. One of my dd's classmates was killed in a accident, wasn't wearing a seatbelt, two high school sisters were killed, not wearing a seatbelt, a young man and his friend was killed, not wearing a seat belt. I could go on.


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Wow. Looks like several don't believe kids should have an adventurous childhood. No wonder the world is messed up.

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I always strapped my kids in.

Jesse was able to come out of the car seat but then a law was changed and he had to go back in one. Just because of his age.

We still wear seatbelts.

But I also think there is a lot more distractions now than there use to be.

Cell phones, cars that talk to you, heck, even do a lot of the driving.

People aren't as diligent as they once were.

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Wow. Looks like several don't believe kids should have an adventurous childhood. No wonder the world is messed up.


 I'm not sure how riding in a vehicle without seatbelts is adventurous.  And while you may drive well, it doesn't mean every other idiot on the road does.



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smileI'm not against adventure... my dd traveled to England, France, India and Jordan while she was still in college and my son done things that made my skin crawl. They just better be sure to wear their seatbelt. smile



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I rode in the back of a pick up and without a seat belt plenty of times as a kid. I don't remember it as being anything special, so I have no issues with denying my children that adventure. Children are a lot safer in an accident if they are properly restrained.



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I rode in the back of a pick up and without a seat belt plenty of times as a kid. I don't remember it as being anything special, so I have no issues with denying my children that adventure. Children are a lot safer in an accident if they are properly restrained.



-- Edited by NAOW on Thursday 3rd of March 2016 11:12:47 PM


 I did, too.  It was windy, uncomfortable, and tossed you around.  Not really an adventure so much as something to endure.



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It's a wonder any of use survived our childhoods.

I remember one particularly rough ride in the back of a pickup truck. There were, I think, 10 or 11 of us total. 4 in the cab and the rest in the bed. The driver took this old "washboard" dirt road. I don't know how all of us in the bed didn't end up with chipped teeth, the rough ride was making them chatter so much and so hard.

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