I rode in the back of a pick up and without a seat belt plenty of times as a kid. I don't remember it as being anything special, so I have no issues with denying my children that adventure. Children are a lot safer in an accident if they are properly restrained.
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I did, too. It was windy, uncomfortable, and tossed you around. Not really an adventure so much as something to endure.
I never understood why anyone wanted to ride in the back of the truck. It's rather unpleasant in my opinion; windy, no cushioning, and bugs get all over you.
Had to ride in the cab with mom and dad coming home.
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I would have to say that it was a time of innocence and freedom but that doesn't mean that I would do away with seatbelts. One of my dd's classmates was killed in a accident, wasn't wearing a seatbelt, two high school sisters were killed, not wearing a seatbelt, a young man and his friend was killed, not wearing a seat belt. I could go on.
But there weren't in the pickup bed, either.
I'm not saying to do away with seat belts. I know people who weren't wearing seat belts that were killed, and I know people who WERE wearing seat belts that were killed--heck I came up on an accident on the highway and she was fully buckled in with an airbag that had deployed--and she was dead
However, I think as a society we need to leave the determination of acceptable risk to either those willing to take them, or the parents (in the case of children). Will some of them make bad decisions? Probably--but they are likely to make them with or without a bunch of laws, anyway.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I rode in the back of a pick up and without a seat belt plenty of times as a kid. I don't remember it as being anything special, so I have no issues with denying my children that adventure. Children are a lot safer in an accident if they are properly restrained.
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I did, too. It was windy, uncomfortable, and tossed you around. Not really an adventure so much as something to endure.
I never understood why anyone wanted to ride in the back of the truck. It's rather unpleasant in my opinion; windy, no cushioning, and bugs get all over you.
Well, when there's already 5 in the cab and you don't want to be the one to stay in the hayfield and miss lunch, it's what you do.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I guess it's better if the pick-up gets into an accident and the kids are ejected from the truck bed, smashing their skulls open. That will show those politically correct dweebs!
I rode in the back of a pick up and without a seat belt plenty of times as a kid. I don't remember it as being anything special, so I have no issues with denying my children that adventure. Children are a lot safer in an accident if they are properly restrained.
-- Edited by NAOW on Thursday 3rd of March 2016 11:12:47 PM
I did, too. It was windy, uncomfortable, and tossed you around. Not really an adventure so much as something to endure.
I never understood why anyone wanted to ride in the back of the truck. It's rather unpleasant in my opinion; windy, no cushioning, and bugs get all over you.
Cuz when you are a kid, it's a freaking blast! That's why.
I rode in the back of a pick up and without a seat belt plenty of times as a kid. I don't remember it as being anything special, so I have no issues with denying my children that adventure. Children are a lot safer in an accident if they are properly restrained.
-- Edited by NAOW on Thursday 3rd of March 2016 11:12:47 PM
But your children will never get to find out for themselves. You've taken that away.
They are a lot safer if they never get into a vehicle--but you let them do it, anyway.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I rode in the back of a pick up and without a seat belt plenty of times as a kid. I don't remember it as being anything special, so I have no issues with denying my children that adventure. Children are a lot safer in an accident if they are properly restrained.
-- Edited by NAOW on Thursday 3rd of March 2016 11:12:47 PM
But your children will never get to find out for themselves. You've taken that away.
They are a lot safer if they never get into a vehicle--but you let them do it, anyway.
My older brother (have 4) was a wild man and always toted me along. At 5 I learned how to make a torch by a can of Lysol and a candle. We took care of those dreaded gypsy moths. Until I lit the corner of the house on fire. Ooops! He got it out and painted the area. No one ever knew!
Ah, this same older brother built unbelievable go carts. Steering, brakes, everything. He is an Engineer now. He comes over once a year now. We drink beers and just laugh. Ah, when he found a dog and made a home for it in the cellar.
I rode in the back of a pick up and without a seat belt plenty of times as a kid. I don't remember it as being anything special, so I have no issues with denying my children that adventure. Children are a lot safer in an accident if they are properly restrained.
-- Edited by NAOW on Thursday 3rd of March 2016 11:12:47 PM
But your children will never get to find out for themselves. You've taken that away.
They are a lot safer if they never get into a vehicle--but you let them do it, anyway.
LOL! There are actually lots and lots of kids that never rode in the back of pick up trucks because......gasp.....their families didn't own one.
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Wow. IMHO, kids should have fun experiences while growing up. I rode in the back of a pickup, on an open flat bed while being pulled by a tractor, rode in cars without seat belts, drank water from a garden hose and lots of other things. I had a great childhood.
I really wish there was a Motocross Association near by. The grand's would love to ride motorcycles and race. Even a 4-wheeler club for kids would be nice.
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Wow. IMHO, kids should have fun experiences while growing up. I rode in the back of a pickup, on an open flat bed while being pulled by a tractor, rode in cars without seat belts, drank water from a garden hose and lots of other things. I had a great childhood.
I really wish there was a Motocross Association near by. The grand's would love to ride motorcycles and race. Even a 4-wheeler club for kids would be nice.
I believe so as well, but that doesn't necessarily mean riding in the back of a pickup truck. There are lots of other fun things to do - ride 4 wheelers, golf carts, dirt bikes, tractors, hay rides, skateboarding, etc.
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Hell, I grew up in the city. Doesn't mean you can't leave the city once in awhile and do "different" things! We shouldn't be limited by our surroundings.
My brother had motorcycles & 4 wheelers growing up. I tried to learn to ride but couldn't get the hang of shifting with my foot. The last time he let me ride alone I pushed the handle bar out of the way so I could look down at my foot & ran smack into a tree. After that I just had to ride on the back. We had a track in our field that had one jump. So much fun getting air borne. We had to wear helmets.
I used to ride quads with the ex. We spent a week at Pismo Beach with 8 other guys. I was the only girl, but we met up with the parents of one of the riders one night for dinner. They were at a campground with a camper, where we just slept in tents on the beach. Anyway, it was lots of fun. I also rode motorcycles at my uncle's ranch. Just dirt bikes. The ex had a sandrail, too, but I didn't care much for it.
If riding in the back of a pickup was the highlight of your youth, you need to reevaluate your childhood.
Sure, I did lots of dangerous things. Still do. Riding in the back of the truck is usually less fun than riding in the cab. Hair blows in your face, your butt gets sore, and bugs fly into your eyes. Drinking water out of a hose usually means you are thirsty. It is not very fun. Driving tractors is monotonous. Riding without seatbelts is no different of an experience than riding with them. And riding on anything pulled by a tractor was slow, and usually meant that hard work was imminent. Not fun.
I had more fun building elaborate swings from the rafters in the hay barn, training cows to ride out to pasture on, building hay forts, and teaching my pet rooster to do tricks.
teaching my pet rooster to do tricks.
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I taught my pet goat to do tricks.
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If riding in the back of a pickup was the highlight of your youth, you need to reevaluate your childhood. Sure, I did lots of dangerous things. Still do. Riding in the back of the truck is usually less fun than riding in the cab. Hair blows in your face, your butt gets sore, and bugs fly into your eyes. Drinking water out of a hose usually means you are thirsty. It is not very fun. Driving tractors is monotonous. Riding without seatbelts is no different of an experience than riding with them. And riding on anything pulled by a tractor was slow, and usually meant that hard work was imminent. Not fun. I had more fun building elaborate swings from the rafters in the hay barn, training cows to ride out to pasture on, building hay forts, and teaching my pet rooster to do tricks.
Wow. IMHO, kids should have fun experiences while growing up. I rode in the back of a pickup, on an open flat bed while being pulled by a tractor, rode in cars without seat belts, drank water from a garden hose and lots of other things. I had a great childhood.
I really wish there was a Motocross Association near by. The grand's would love to ride motorcycles and race. Even a 4-wheeler club for kids would be nice.
I believe so as well, but that doesn't necessarily mean riding in the back of a pickup truck. There are lots of other fun things to do - ride 4 wheelers, golf carts, dirt bikes, tractors, hay rides, skateboarding, etc.
But it doesn't have to exclude it, either.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
If riding in the back of a pickup was the highlight of your youth, you need to reevaluate your childhood. Sure, I did lots of dangerous things. Still do. Riding in the back of the truck is usually less fun than riding in the cab. Hair blows in your face, your butt gets sore, and bugs fly into your eyes. Drinking water out of a hose usually means you are thirsty. It is not very fun. Driving tractors is monotonous. Riding without seatbelts is no different of an experience than riding with them. And riding on anything pulled by a tractor was slow, and usually meant that hard work was imminent. Not fun. I had more fun building elaborate swings from the rafters in the hay barn, training cows to ride out to pasture on, building hay forts, and teaching my pet rooster to do tricks.
BS. It was fun. Riding with my brothers and sister, or maybe our cousins, or friends. Was it THEE highlight? No, but those are some great memories.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
If riding in the back of a pickup was the highlight of your youth, you need to reevaluate your childhood. Sure, I did lots of dangerous things. Still do. Riding in the back of the truck is usually less fun than riding in the cab. Hair blows in your face, your butt gets sore, and bugs fly into your eyes. Drinking water out of a hose usually means you are thirsty. It is not very fun. Driving tractors is monotonous. Riding without seatbelts is no different of an experience than riding with them. And riding on anything pulled by a tractor was slow, and usually meant that hard work was imminent. Not fun. I had more fun building elaborate swings from the rafters in the hay barn, training cows to ride out to pasture on, building hay forts, and teaching my pet rooster to do tricks.
BS. It was fun. Riding with my brothers and sister, or maybe our cousins, or friends. Was it THEE highlight? No, but those are some great memories.
To you. I did it - I didn't think it was that fun. I preferred riding my bike in summer or going sledding in winter. Riding in the back of the truck was something I tolerated.
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If riding in the back of a pickup was the highlight of your youth, you need to reevaluate your childhood. Sure, I did lots of dangerous things. Still do. Riding in the back of the truck is usually less fun than riding in the cab. Hair blows in your face, your butt gets sore, and bugs fly into your eyes. Drinking water out of a hose usually means you are thirsty. It is not very fun. Driving tractors is monotonous. Riding without seatbelts is no different of an experience than riding with them. And riding on anything pulled by a tractor was slow, and usually meant that hard work was imminent. Not fun. I had more fun building elaborate swings from the rafters in the hay barn, training cows to ride out to pasture on, building hay forts, and teaching my pet rooster to do tricks.
BS. It was fun. Riding with my brothers and sister, or maybe our cousins, or friends. Was it THEE highlight? No, but those are some great memories.
To you. I did it - I didn't think it was that fun. I preferred riding my bike in summer or going sledding in winter. Riding in the back of the truck was something I tolerated.
They aren't mutually exclusive. What do you think we pulled the sled with?
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
You miss the point that you don't get to tell others what they should or should have considered "fun".
You, Dona, and others are doing EXACTLY that.
No, we're not. So you had fun - we just don't agree that was fun. We have the right to state that opinion. You are the one saying it is integral to a fun childhood when it is not.
I'm sure you like football. I'd rather clean my bathroom than sit and watch it. What is fun is an OPINION.
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I guess it's better if the pick-up gets into an accident and the kids are ejected from the truck bed, smashing their skulls open. That will show those politically correct dweebs!
Kids still get killed in car accidents--even if they have all the safety features on.
And this is just dumb. A child is much more likely to survive a car accident if properly restrained in a carseat than if riding loose in the back of a pickup truck.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
You miss the point that you don't get to tell others what they should or should have considered "fun".
You, Dona, and others are doing EXACTLY that.
No, we're not. So you had fun - we just don't agree that was fun. We have the right to state that opinion. You are the one saying it is integral to a fun childhood when it is not.
I'm sure you like football. I'd rather clean my bathroom than sit and watch it. What is fun is an OPINION.
Bullish!t. Dona said that anyone who thought it was fun needs to "reexamine" their childhood.
i NEVER said it was integral to anything. Quote me where I said that.
What I said was that all these people freaking the fvck out because some kids ride in the back of a pickup need to calm down and mind their own business, and that laws regulating such things are stupid.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I guess it's better if the pick-up gets into an accident and the kids are ejected from the truck bed, smashing their skulls open. That will show those politically correct dweebs!
Kids still get killed in car accidents--even if they have all the safety features on.
And this is just dumb. A child is much more likely to survive a car accident if properly restrained in a carseat than if riding loose in the back of a pickup truck.
Says you. I'll bet there are more children that die each year that are fully resrrained than die from priding in a pickup back.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I don't think this is even an issue now, because I don't believe it's legal in most states. I can't say it was the highlight of my life, but it was fun, and I have some good memories of my grandparents from it. And the fun, crazy stuff I did with friends.
teaching my pet rooster to do tricks. ---------------------- I taught my pet goat to do tricks.
I ALWAYS WANTED A GOAT.
I had a dog that could dance on her hind legs, climb ladders, go through tunnels, jump over things, play dead, make a figure eight through your legs, shake, high five, roll over, sing, bark, AND herd the cows and pigs.
I had a pig that would sit and shake your hand.
My rooster would fly to your arm, shoulder or head on command, flap his wings, lie down, and sometimes sort of kinda shake.
But I always, ALWAYS wanted a goat. They are so clever and fun! Like a cross between a pig and a dog.
If riding in the back of a pickup was the highlight of your youth, you need to reevaluate your childhood. Sure, I did lots of dangerous things. Still do. Riding in the back of the truck is usually less fun than riding in the cab. Hair blows in your face, your butt gets sore, and bugs fly into your eyes. Drinking water out of a hose usually means you are thirsty. It is not very fun. Driving tractors is monotonous. Riding without seatbelts is no different of an experience than riding with them. And riding on anything pulled by a tractor was slow, and usually meant that hard work was imminent. Not fun. I had more fun building elaborate swings from the rafters in the hay barn, training cows to ride out to pasture on, building hay forts, and teaching my pet rooster to do tricks.
You miss the point that you don't get to tell others what they should or should have considered "fun".
You, Dona, and others are doing EXACTLY that.
No, we're not. So you had fun - we just don't agree that was fun. We have the right to state that opinion. You are the one saying it is integral to a fun childhood when it is not.
I'm sure you like football. I'd rather clean my bathroom than sit and watch it. What is fun is an OPINION.
You are making the blanket statement that it is fun, and heavily implying that without those experiences, a childhood is subpar. Nope, not agreeing here.
None of those things contributed to the amount of fun I had growing up in the slightest. I had fun, but in other ways.
If riding in the back of a pickup was the highlight of your youth, you need to reevaluate your childhood. Sure, I did lots of dangerous things. Still do. Riding in the back of the truck is usually less fun than riding in the cab. Hair blows in your face, your butt gets sore, and bugs fly into your eyes. Drinking water out of a hose usually means you are thirsty. It is not very fun. Driving tractors is monotonous. Riding without seatbelts is no different of an experience than riding with them. And riding on anything pulled by a tractor was slow, and usually meant that hard work was imminent. Not fun. I had more fun building elaborate swings from the rafters in the hay barn, training cows to ride out to pasture on, building hay forts, and teaching my pet rooster to do tricks.
Oh ok. You are gonna mock that but training a cow is somehow better? Oh ok.
If riding in the back of a pickup was the highlight of your youth, you need to reevaluate your childhood. Sure, I did lots of dangerous things. Still do. Riding in the back of the truck is usually less fun than riding in the cab. Hair blows in your face, your butt gets sore, and bugs fly into your eyes. Drinking water out of a hose usually means you are thirsty. It is not very fun. Driving tractors is monotonous. Riding without seatbelts is no different of an experience than riding with them. And riding on anything pulled by a tractor was slow, and usually meant that hard work was imminent. Not fun. I had more fun building elaborate swings from the rafters in the hay barn, training cows to ride out to pasture on, building hay forts, and teaching my pet rooster to do tricks.
Oh ok. You are gonna mock that but training a cow is somehow better? Oh ok.
You are the one making it sound like todays youth are missing out if they don't rattle around the back of a pickup swallowing bugs and bruising their butts. If my kids never ride a cow, they will probably have fun in other ways.
If riding in the back of a pickup was the highlight of your youth, you need to reevaluate your childhood. Sure, I did lots of dangerous things. Still do. Riding in the back of the truck is usually less fun than riding in the cab. Hair blows in your face, your butt gets sore, and bugs fly into your eyes. Drinking water out of a hose usually means you are thirsty. It is not very fun. Driving tractors is monotonous. Riding without seatbelts is no different of an experience than riding with them. And riding on anything pulled by a tractor was slow, and usually meant that hard work was imminent. Not fun. I had more fun building elaborate swings from the rafters in the hay barn, training cows to ride out to pasture on, building hay forts, and teaching my pet rooster to do tricks.
Oh ok. You are gonna mock that but training a cow is somehow better? Oh ok.
You are the one making it sound like todays youth are missing out if they don't rattle around the back of a pickup swallowing bugs and bruising their butts. If my kids never ride a cow, they will probably have fun in other ways.
You miss the point that you don't get to tell others what they should or should have considered "fun".
You, Dona, and others are doing EXACTLY that.
No, we're not. So you had fun - we just don't agree that was fun. We have the right to state that opinion. You are the one saying it is integral to a fun childhood when it is not.
I'm sure you like football. I'd rather clean my bathroom than sit and watch it. What is fun is an OPINION.
You are making the blanket statement that it is fun, and heavily implying that without those experiences, a childhood is subpar. Nope, not agreeing here.
None of those things contributed to the amount of fun I had growing up in the slightest. I had fun, but in other ways.
You stated exactly the opposite, that if anyone did have fun doing it, their childhood must have been subpar.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I think every generation before did things the next generation didn't. In the 50s-60s people went to drive in movies. At least in my area they were no longer around. Previous generations actually danced at dances. My school dances consisted of groups of people dancing as individuals & slow dances were arms around each other going in a circle.
On the other hand our video games consisted of Atari & Pac Man. Now they have incredible lifelike games. Things change.
Well in the example of riding in the back of a p/u the laws have changed.
Yeah, I know. That's what I'm bitching about.
Almost 20 years ago my one roommate had two little boys 4 & 6. My other roommate had a p/u. We took the boys swimming with their mom's permission. On the ride home I road in the back of the p/u with the boys. OMG was their mother pissed. She was livid. We didn't think we had done anything wrong. The boys enjoyed it until their mom went ballistic.
You miss the point that you don't get to tell others what they should or should have considered "fun".
You, Dona, and others are doing EXACTLY that.
No, we're not. So you had fun - we just don't agree that was fun. We have the right to state that opinion. You are the one saying it is integral to a fun childhood when it is not.
I'm sure you like football. I'd rather clean my bathroom than sit and watch it. What is fun is an OPINION.
You are making the blanket statement that it is fun, and heavily implying that without those experiences, a childhood is subpar. Nope, not agreeing here.
None of those things contributed to the amount of fun I had growing up in the slightest. I had fun, but in other ways.
You stated exactly the opposite, that if anyone did have fun doing it, their childhood must have been subpar.
No, she didn't. She said if that was the experience that defined your childhood, then it needed to be re-evaluated. Was riding in the back of a pick up truck the funnest thing you did as a kid? If so, you have my pity.
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