Dear Carolyn: When finished with his dinner at home my husband will immediately have dessert. Regardless of whether others are done eating. This has never bothered me until now. Now, our 2-year-old will stop eating and say he is all done in an attempt to get some sweets.
I don’t mind him having the sweets, but I’d prefer it be after he finishes his main meal. I also can’t stand the whining and sometimes tears when I say “no.” (I’m seven-plus months pregnant with our second, so my “just put up with it” limit is very low.) My husband doesn’t seem to care if our 2-year-old is upset.
I finally said to my husband last night (when he went for a cookie and the 2-year-old started to lose it), “It upsets me when you have dessert while (our 2-year-old) is still eating. I can’t stand the reaction we are seeing from him right now.” Hubby seemed put off.
I later apologized for snapping. He said he isn’t wild about having his eating habits dictated by a 2-year-old. What do I do/say at this point?
— Desserted During Dinner
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Dear Desserted: Oh for flop’s sake.
I’m all for making sure the keepers are running the zoo, but a refusal on principle to bend at all to the forces of utter obviousness spells a long next decade or two for all of you.
Longer, possibly, since having stared someone’s self-absorption in the eye usually makes it hard to go back to not being bothered by it.
If it helps you to make the case for leaving the cookie in the stinkin’ jar for an extra five minutes, please say that, OK, a 2-year-old shouldn’t dictate an adult’s eating habits, but good manners certainly should, and it’s ill-mannered of him to hop to dessert while his fellow diners are still working on their entrees.
I also suggest breaking the dessert-after-every-meal routine because you will be deeply grateful for that later — but, one battle at a time.
Unless this is your husband’s one area of rigid weirdness, I also suggest you start the process of finding a good parenting class and/or good family therapist to have in your quiver for when tougher problems come along. Someone who all but announces he’s not interested in making your life easier, in the simplest way possible, is an excellent bet to make it harder than it needs to be.
Oh please. He's a grown ass man. If he wants to eat dessert then eat dessert. And, you say No, finish your dinner first to your 2 yr old. Dad most likely finished his meal. But, i suppose if you want to pick a lot of stupid battles with your husband, then have at it.
Oh please. He's a grown ass man. If he wants to eat dessert then eat dessert. And, you say No, finish your dinner first to your 2 yr old. Dad most likely finished his meal. But, i suppose if you want to pick a lot of stupid battles with your husband, then have at it.
Really? So, teaching your kids basic manners is no longer a priority? He should not be getting dessert while others are still eating dinner. He's a grown ass man - he can wait 5 flippin' minutes.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
It never bothered her until now. She knew that he did it before. As for manners, it depends on your family rules. Some people give dessert when they finished their meal. If you finish your meal, you get dessert. That doesn't mean everyone else has to wait while a 2 yr old is having a tantrum about eating a carrot before dessert.
Yes. This father needs to be the example and wait.
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Rule 1, is no one eats until everyone is seated and ready to eat. Rule 2, no one leaves the table while others are eating with out first saying, "excuse me". Rule 3, no one goes for dessert until everyone is thru eating their meal. The rules applied to all ages that are old enough to sit at the table for meals.
These are rules apply to immediate family only. If you come to my house for dinner and start eating before the food is on the table, put your elbows on the table, eat with your mouth open, and gobble dessert before I've had a chance to swallow my first bite, not one word will be said. You may be silently judge, but not a single word will be said.
Rule 1, is no one eats until everyone is seated and ready to eat. Rule 2, no one leaves the table while others are eating with out first saying, "excuse me". Rule 3, no one goes for dessert until everyone is thru eating their meal. The rules applied to all ages that are old enough to sit at the table for meals.
These are rules apply to immediate family only. If you come to my house for dinner and start eating before the food is on the table, put your elbows on the table, eat with your mouth open, and gobble dessert before I've had a chance to swallow my first bite, not one word will be said. You may be silently judge, but not a single word will be said.
LOL!
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I probably wouldn't have minded before having kids at the table but once we did, things would need to change. I want my kids to have good table manners, hard to do when dad isn't modeling them.
Sadly, DH and I had this conversation when our first baby was about a year old. When it was just the two of us, I didn't have a problem with him eating dessert before I was finished. Habits are hard to break, but DH shaped up immediately. Which is exactly what the LW's DH should have done.
The LW's DH needs to grow up and realize he is not the center of the universe.
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Rule 1, is no one eats until everyone is seated and ready to eat. Rule 2, no one leaves the table while others are eating with out first saying, "excuse me". Rule 3, no one goes for dessert until everyone is thru eating their meal. The rules applied to all ages that are old enough to sit at the table for meals.
This was our house too. We didn't usually have dessert on weeknights. My mom worked full time. But there were always cookies or fig newtons or something sweet to grab. We had to take our plate & scrape it into the garbage & put it in the sink then we could grab a treat.
I probably wouldn't have minded before having kids at the table but once we did, things would need to change. I want my kids to have good table manners, hard to do when dad isn't modeling them.
A lot of things change when you have kids. Grown-ups realize this.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
The LW would die in our home. Meals get served to everyone at the same time but everyone eats at their own pace. DH and I are often done before DS bothers to pick up his fork because he'd rather play than eat. Sometimes, DS will plow through his meal and ask for seconds before DH and I get done. If we're having dessert that night, it's put on DS' table next to his dinner if he hasn't finished yet. Sometimes, he'll ignore the dessert. Other times, he'll abandon dinner, eat the dessert, then go back to his dinner.
I have never understood people who dessert after every meal. I mean, there is nothing wrong with it but I just don't get it. I was raised that dessert was for a special occasion.
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I make dessert every night for the next day. My DH loves dessert so I make it mostly for him. I usually am not hungry right after dinner so I have mine later. My mom made dessert every night so I guess I just carried on the tradition.
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Oh please. He's a grown ass man. If he wants to eat dessert then eat dessert. And, you say No, finish your dinner first to your 2 yr old. Dad most likely finished his meal. But, i suppose if you want to pick a lot of stupid battles with your husband, then have at it.
Really? So, teaching your kids basic manners is no longer a priority? He should not be getting dessert while others are still eating dinner. He's a grown ass man - he can wait 5 flippin' minutes.
Yup. Let the food digest before you stuff more in!
I make dessert every night for the next day. My DH loves dessert so I make it mostly for him. I usually am not hungry right after dinner so I have mine later. My mom made dessert every night so I guess I just carried on the tradition.
I'm not criticizing. I was just raised differently is all. I make a big dinner every night and wouldn't feel like cooking dessert too. But that is me. I guess my only thought process is that with so many overweight kids these days it might be a bad habit to start. JMO! Not a judgment.
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My husband would be devastated if I stop cooking dessert. I think it's his favorite part of the day. No kids still at home but even when they were they didn't care much for sweets.
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I make dessert every night for the next day. My DH loves dessert so I make it mostly for him. I usually am not hungry right after dinner so I have mine later. My mom made dessert every night so I guess I just carried on the tradition.
I'm not criticizing. I was just raised differently is all. I make a big dinner every night and wouldn't feel like cooking dessert too. But that is me. I guess my only thought process is that with so many overweight kids these days it might be a bad habit to start. JMO! Not a judgment.
For us, the chefette of the house doesn't have much of a sweet tooth so dessert simply isn't thought of most nights. The typical dessert here is a piece of candy.
I buy the Hershey's dark chocolate bars and eat 1 row (4 squares) about once a week, if that.
Sometimes I want brownies and I make them. DH wasn't aware that brownies could be made without using a box mix the first time I made them.
My husband would be devastated if I stop cooking dessert. I think it's his favorite part of the day. No kids still at home but even when they were they didn't care much for sweets.
My DH loves his sweets too. He's in heaven right now with all the Peeps. I can't stand those things. The smell alone makes me nauseated.
I'm not so concerned about the "manners" as I am the fact that the kid no longer wants to eat his peas after the cookies come out, and so mom has to fight that battle herself while dad is busy shoving Oreos into his cake hole.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Sometimes I make dessert for no reason but usually the real reason is that I found a recipe I want to try out!
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I'm not so concerned about the "manners" as I am the fact that the kid no longer wants to eat his peas after the cookies come out, and so mom has to fight that battle herself while dad is busy shoving Oreos into his cake hole.
Because dad is an overgrown child with no sense of self control. Wait till there's two kids screaming for cookies.
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I have never understood people who dessert after every meal. I mean, there is nothing wrong with it but I just don't get it. I was raised that dessert was for a special occasion.
My mom rarely made dessert, except when we had company. If we wanted something sweet, there was fruit.
I don't make dessert, either. My son doesn't care for it and neither do I.
Sometimes I buy cake or pastries when I'm expecting visitors, but the rest inevitably gets tossed to the critters.
I made a lemon chess pie the other day. We still have a bunch left. We just don't eat a lot of it.
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I'm not so concerned about the "manners" as I am the fact that the kid no longer wants to eat his peas after the cookies come out, and so mom has to fight that battle herself while dad is busy shoving Oreos into his cake hole.
Because dad is an overgrown child with no sense of self control. Wait till there's two kids screaming for cookies.
What a piece of work. Mister, your child is learning from YOUR behavior - man up and start setting a good example, you selfish idiot.
I have never understood people who dessert after every meal. I mean, there is nothing wrong with it but I just don't get it. I was raised that dessert was for a special occasion.
My mom rarely made dessert, except when we had company. If we wanted something sweet, there was fruit.
I don't make dessert, either. My son doesn't care for it and neither do I.
Sometimes I buy cake or pastries when I'm expecting visitors, but the rest inevitably gets tossed to the critters.
Raccoons and skunks LOVE sweets.
I'm not into sweets, either - dessert just doesn't motivate me.
I'm not so concerned about the "manners" as I am the fact that the kid no longer wants to eat his peas after the cookies come out, and so mom has to fight that battle herself while dad is busy shoving Oreos into his cake hole.
Because dad is an overgrown child with no sense of self control. Wait till there's two kids screaming for cookies.
What a piece of work. Mister, your child is learning from YOUR behavior - man up and start setting a good example, you selfish idiot.
OMG, I'm starting to sound like Husker LOL
It's ok. When Husker thinks the man is the idiot - people should pay attention.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Or he could do what my pawpaw did, have dessert first.
And at his house, that was perfectly acceptable.
I try to make something a couple times a week.
It may be a bowl of fruit or it may be a cake.
I'm planning on making a strawberry cobbler tomorrow night.
A lot of times our dessert can easily be a little cup of dry cereal.
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Or he could do what my pawpaw did, have dessert first.
And at his house, that was perfectly acceptable.
I try to make something a couple times a week.
It may be a bowl of fruit or it may be a cake.
I'm planning on making a strawberry cobbler tomorrow night.
A lot of times our dessert can easily be a little cup of dry cereal.
I think thats a bad idea when you are trying to get a child to eat their vegetables.
Well, at pawpaws house, the rules were different.
If you missed it, in my first post on this thread, I said parents teach by being the example.
And that this father needs to be the example and wait.
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Mom was a SAHM for the most part so she had time to make desert. Desert was served every night. She had the time to bake, Dad insisted on desert, and it was the thing to do in those days. Sometimes we had a bundt cake, sometimes pie, sometimes cookies. I loved in the summer when strawberries were in season, she would go strawberry picking while we were in school and come home and make an angel food cake. That was the best.
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