TOTALLY GEEKED!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

RE: Ok, so I was in line behind...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Walmart provides education programs and opportunities to go to college.

They have retirement, insurance and a lot have on site clinics now in which the employee can have access to medical care at a dramatic discount.

There is an employee discount on everything. From groceries to gas to pharmacy.

Paid holidays and vacations after being employed by them for 90 days.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yes and they pay property taxes and contribute to local charities.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The point is that you should not be able to buy cigarettes or alcohol with ANY kind of welfare card - the fact that it is possible is what pisses people off. None. NADA. And your cash withdrawal ability should be almost non-existent. Nobody really NEEDS cash, anymore.
Again, you are angry at the wrong people. They are allowed cash so they can pay bills or buy diapers or whatever. The government needs to set up a system where they can pay their bills or whatever directly with the card. Or make them get a bank account. Or something. They system is broken. As long as people can legally play the system they will. It's the laws that need to be changed.

Uh, no. I can't be mad at people who commit fraud and are lazy and spend taxpayer money b/c the government sucks and let's them? That's dumb. And trust me, I can be mad at both.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

weltschmerz wrote:
About $59 billion is spent on traditional social welfare programs. $92 billion is spent on corporate subsidies. So, the government spent 50% more on corporate welfare than it did on food stamps and housing assistance in 2006.

Before we look at the details, a heartfelt plea from the Save the CEO’s Charitable Trust:

There’s so much suffering in the world. It can all get pretty overwhelming sometimes. Consider, for a moment the sorrow in the eyes of a CEO who’s just found out that his end-of-year bonus is only going to be a paltry $2.3 million.

“It felt like a slap in the face. Imagine what it would feel like just before Christmas to find out that you’re going to be forced to scrape by on your standard $8.4 million compensation package alone. Imagine what is was like to have to look into my daughter’s face and tell her that I couldn’t afford to both buy her a dollar sign shaped island and hire someone to chew her food from now on, too. To put her in that situation of having to choose… She’s only a child for God’s sake.”

It doesn’t have to be this way. Thanks to federal subsidies from taxpayers like you, CEO’s like G. Allen Andreas of Archer Daniels Midland was able to take home almost $14 million in executive compensation last year. But he’s one of the lucky ones. There are still corporations out there that actually have to provide goods and services to their consumers in order to survive. They need your help.

For just $93 billion a year the federal government is able to provide a better life for these CEO’s and their families. That’s less than the cost of 240 million cups of coffee a day. Won’t you help a needy corporation today?

thinkbynumbers.org/government-spending/corporate-welfare/corporate-welfare-statistics-vs-social-welfare-statistics/

So what? CEO's that run successful companies WORK for their money. Welfare recipients don't. No one is ENTITLED to be given handouts just b/c someone else makes a lot of money.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The point is that you should not be able to buy cigarettes or alcohol with ANY kind of welfare card - the fact that it is possible is what pisses people off. None. NADA. And your cash withdrawal ability should be almost non-existent. Nobody really NEEDS cash, anymore.
Again, you are angry at the wrong people. They are allowed cash so they can pay bills or buy diapers or whatever. The government needs to set up a system where they can pay their bills or whatever directly with the card. Or make them get a bank account. Or something. They system is broken. As long as people can legally play the system they will. It's the laws that need to be changed.
Uh, no. I can't be mad at people who commit fraud and are lazy and spend taxpayer money b/c the government sucks and let's them? That's dumb. And trust me, I can be mad at both.

But they're not committing fraud. Not if they're buying it with their cash. There are no stipulations on what you buy with your cash. Of course, illegal things would be illegal obviously. Now, if they're buying cigarettes with their food stamps then they're committing fraud and both they and the people who sell them need to be turned in and face jail time IMO. But the government doesn't care. So unless the government makes it illegal to buy cigarettes or alcohol with their cash they're technically not committing fraud.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The point is that you should not be able to buy cigarettes or alcohol with ANY kind of welfare card - the fact that it is possible is what pisses people off. None. NADA. And your cash withdrawal ability should be almost non-existent. Nobody really NEEDS cash, anymore.
Again, you are angry at the wrong people. They are allowed cash so they can pay bills or buy diapers or whatever. The government needs to set up a system where they can pay their bills or whatever directly with the card. Or make them get a bank account. Or something. They system is broken. As long as people can legally play the system they will. It's the laws that need to be changed.
Uh, no. I can't be mad at people who commit fraud and are lazy and spend taxpayer money b/c the government sucks and let's them? That's dumb. And trust me, I can be mad at both.
But they're not committing fraud. Not if they're buying it with their cash. There are no stipulations on what you buy with your cash. Of course, illegal things would be illegal obviously. Now, if they're buying cigarettes with their food stamps then they're committing fraud and both they and the people who sell them need to be turned in and face jail time IMO. But the government doesn't care. So unless the government makes it illegal to buy cigarettes or alcohol with their cash they're technically not committing fraud.

I can still be mad at them b/c they are stupid enough to spend that money on that schitt.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The point is that you should not be able to buy cigarettes or alcohol with ANY kind of welfare card - the fact that it is possible is what pisses people off. None. NADA. And your cash withdrawal ability should be almost non-existent. Nobody really NEEDS cash, anymore.
Again, you are angry at the wrong people. They are allowed cash so they can pay bills or buy diapers or whatever. The government needs to set up a system where they can pay their bills or whatever directly with the card. Or make them get a bank account. Or something. They system is broken. As long as people can legally play the system they will. It's the laws that need to be changed.
Uh, no. I can't be mad at people who commit fraud and are lazy and spend taxpayer money b/c the government sucks and let's them? That's dumb. And trust me, I can be mad at both.
But they're not committing fraud. Not if they're buying it with their cash. There are no stipulations on what you buy with your cash. Of course, illegal things would be illegal obviously. Now, if they're buying cigarettes with their food stamps then they're committing fraud and both they and the people who sell them need to be turned in and face jail time IMO. But the government doesn't care. So unless the government makes it illegal to buy cigarettes or alcohol with their cash they're technically not committing fraud.
I can still be mad at them b/c they are stupid enough to spend that money on that schitt.

And I'm fine with that. I have no issue with that. If someone wants to say you shouldn't be buying cigarettes if you can't pay your bills then fine. No problem. But to say it's illegal is wrong. And yeah, you can be mad at stupid. But you're going to end up being mad 24/7 because there's a whole lot of stupid in this world.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The point is that you should not be able to buy cigarettes or alcohol with ANY kind of welfare card - the fact that it is possible is what pisses people off. None. NADA. And your cash withdrawal ability should be almost non-existent. Nobody really NEEDS cash, anymore.
Again, you are angry at the wrong people. They are allowed cash so they can pay bills or buy diapers or whatever. The government needs to set up a system where they can pay their bills or whatever directly with the card. Or make them get a bank account. Or something. They system is broken. As long as people can legally play the system they will. It's the laws that need to be changed.
Uh, no. I can't be mad at people who commit fraud and are lazy and spend taxpayer money b/c the government sucks and let's them? That's dumb. And trust me, I can be mad at both.
But they're not committing fraud. Not if they're buying it with their cash. There are no stipulations on what you buy with your cash. Of course, illegal things would be illegal obviously. Now, if they're buying cigarettes with their food stamps then they're committing fraud and both they and the people who sell them need to be turned in and face jail time IMO. But the government doesn't care. So unless the government makes it illegal to buy cigarettes or alcohol with their cash they're technically not committing fraud.
I can still be mad at them b/c they are stupid enough to spend that money on that schitt.
And I'm fine with that. I have no issue with that. If someone wants to say you shouldn't be buying cigarettes if you can't pay your bills then fine. No problem. But to say it's illegal is wrong. And yeah, you can be mad at stupid. But you're going to end up being mad 24/7 because there's a whole lot of stupid in this world.

And that is why we need to elect people who don't perpetuate this type of crap.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The point is that you should not be able to buy cigarettes or alcohol with ANY kind of welfare card - the fact that it is possible is what pisses people off. None. NADA. And your cash withdrawal ability should be almost non-existent. Nobody really NEEDS cash, anymore.
Again, you are angry at the wrong people. They are allowed cash so they can pay bills or buy diapers or whatever. The government needs to set up a system where they can pay their bills or whatever directly with the card. Or make them get a bank account. Or something. They system is broken. As long as people can legally play the system they will. It's the laws that need to be changed.
Uh, no. I can't be mad at people who commit fraud and are lazy and spend taxpayer money b/c the government sucks and let's them? That's dumb. And trust me, I can be mad at both.
But they're not committing fraud. Not if they're buying it with their cash. There are no stipulations on what you buy with your cash. Of course, illegal things would be illegal obviously. Now, if they're buying cigarettes with their food stamps then they're committing fraud and both they and the people who sell them need to be turned in and face jail time IMO. But the government doesn't care. So unless the government makes it illegal to buy cigarettes or alcohol with their cash they're technically not committing fraud.

You say that like it matters. It doesn't. I don't give a rat's ass. Losers on welfare should not be buying ciggies, booze, drugs, or even mountain dew.

The taxpayers are paying for you to LIVE--not live a lifestyle.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I understand that buying booze and cigarettes is morally wrong. I have no issue with that. What about condoms and birth control? If a woman is single and she is spending her money on condoms and birth control should she be allowed to do that? She shouldn't even be having sex if she can't afford the ones she has.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I understand that buying booze and cigarettes is morally wrong. I have no issue with that. What about condoms and birth control? If a woman is single and she is spending her money on condoms and birth control should she be allowed to do that? She shouldn't even be having sex if she can't afford the ones she has.

Better that than having more kids to feed. I have no issues with that.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

I've seen people pay people to use their food stamp card. They give them $50 cash and get to spend $100 on it. It's happened right in front of the cashier. I'm not sure what their responsibility is. One of my church friends works at an elementary school and she comes to bible study in tears because these little kids are so neglected. The families just work the system to live their lavish lifestyle and the kids go hungry while mom drives a suburban and has 4 inch nails and hair that costs $100 a week to maintain. We need MASSIVE welfare reform but it needs to start in Washington. These politicians like keeping voters on welfare. Do you think anyone would get elected if they said they wanted make big changes to welfare? Make people get food from a state run food bank. Make them live in regulated housing. Make them work for everything they get. No cash for anything. Get it from Uncle Sam. I bet the numbers would drop dramatically.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Southern_Belle wrote:
I've seen people pay people to use their food stamp card. They give them $50 cash and get to spend $100 on it. It's happened right in front of the cashier. I'm not sure what their responsibility is. One of my church friends works at an elementary school and she comes to bible study in tears because these little kids are so neglected. The families just work the system to live their lavish lifestyle and the kids go hungry while mom drives a suburban and has 4 inch nails and hair that costs $100 a week to maintain. We need MASSIVE welfare reform but it needs to start in Washington. These politicians like keeping voters on welfare. Do you think anyone would get elected if they said they wanted make big changes to welfare? Make people get food from a state run food bank. Make them live in regulated housing. Make them work for everything they get. No cash for anything. Get it from Uncle Sam. I bet the numbers would drop dramatically.

ITA. Put them in housing where stuff is paid for and give them food and what they need. But I've heard people saying we need to lock them in jail and feed them gruel because they are poor. All you will do is create a wave of crime. Welfare reform is so badly needed. And yes, people sell their cards or stamps. The store is supposed to report them.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Southern_Belle wrote:
I've seen people pay people to use their food stamp card. They give them $50 cash and get to spend $100 on it. It's happened right in front of the cashier. I'm not sure what their responsibility is. One of my church friends works at an elementary school and she comes to bible study in tears because these little kids are so neglected. The families just work the system to live their lavish lifestyle and the kids go hungry while mom drives a suburban and has 4 inch nails and hair that costs $100 a week to maintain. We need MASSIVE welfare reform but it needs to start in Washington. These politicians like keeping voters on welfare. Do you think anyone would get elected if they said they wanted make big changes to welfare? Make people get food from a state run food bank. Make them live in regulated housing. Make them work for everything they get. No cash for anything. Get it from Uncle Sam. I bet the numbers would drop dramatically.
ITA. Put them in housing where stuff is paid for and give them food and what they need. But I've heard people saying we need to lock them in jail and feed them gruel because they are poor. All you will do is create a wave of crime. Welfare reform is so badly needed. And yes, people sell their cards or stamps. The store is supposed to report them.

Not everyone abuses the system, but I hear you.

flan