TOTALLY GEEKED!

Nope. No typo. That's what wait people make in the US.

Unless the service was abominable, the MINIMUM tip should be 10%. Adequate/good service deserves 15%. Outstanding service rates 20%.

At $2.13, you might as well not pay them at all.
What if it's a slow day, with few customers? They make $20 for the day?

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 13th of March 2016 12:05:12 AM

I didn't realize you have to tip your waitress for good service AND pay her salary.

weltschmerz wrote:

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I didn't realize you have to tip your waitress for good service AND pay her salary.

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 If you tip properly the waitress will make a decent paycheck.  Of course, you shouldn't tip if the service is horrible.  But you also have to remember that sometimes it's not the waitresses fault.  Example, the kitchen screws up or is shorthanded.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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At $2.13, you might as well not pay them at all.
What if it's a slow day, with few customers? They make $20 for the day?

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 13th of March 2016 12:05:12 AM

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 Well, technically if they don't make minimum wage the employer is supposed to make up the difference.  But that doesn't always happen. 

And I don't know where you live LGS but where I live I rarely ever see wait staff that isn't white.  Every once in awhile at the IHOP we get a black server who is super nice.  They're Americans and they do the jobs they need to do to not be on welfare or to make money.  DN was a waitress for many years.  She's very American.  So I don't understand the whole they're doing jobs Americans won't do thing.

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 My point is that Americans will do jobs even for $2.13 an hour and that we don't need to pump this country full of illegals.

What you make depends on if douche bags tip correctly or not.

It's a hard job.

Federal minimum wage is $7.25

Current and Projected Minimum Wage by State (in U.S. Dollars)

 

State	2015	2016	2017	2018
Alabama	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Alaska †	$8.75	$9.75	$9.75	$9.75
Arizona *	$8.05	$8.20	$8.45	$8.65
Arkansas	$7.50	$8.00	$8.50	$8.50
California	$9.00	$10.00	$10.00	$10.00
Colorado *	$8.14	$8.30	$8.41	$8.60
Connecticut	$9.15	$9.60	$10.10	$10.10
Delaware	$8.25	$8.25	$8.25	$8.25
District of Columbia †	$10.50	$11.50	$11.50	$11.50
Florida *	$8.05	$8.22	$8.42	$8.61
Georgia	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Hawaii	$7.75	$8.50	$9.25	$10.10
Idaho	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Illinois	$8.25	$8.25	$8.25	$8.25
Indiana	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Iowa	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Kansas	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Kentucky	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Louisiana	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Maine	$7.50	$7.50	$7.50	$7.50
Maryland	$8.25	$8.75	$9.25	$10.10
Massacusetts	$9.00	$10.00	$11.00	$11.00
Michigan †	$8.15	$8.50	$8.90	$9.25
Minnesota †	$9.00	$9.50	$9.50	$9.71
Mississippi	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Missouri *	$7.65	$7.65	$7.80	$7.90
Montana *	$8.05	$8.20	$8.45	$8.65
Nebraska	$8.00	$9.00	$9.00	$9.00
Nevada *	$8.25	$8.25	$8.25	$8.25
New Hampshire	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
New Jersey *	$8.38	$8.59	$8.78	$8.97
New Mexico	$7.50	$7.50	$7.50	$7.50
New York	$8.75	$9.00	$9.00	$9.00
North Carolina	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
North Dakota	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Ohio *	$8.15	$8.30	$8.50	$8.70
Oklahoma	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Oregon *	$9.25	$9.45	$9.65	$9.86
Pennsylvania	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Rhode Island	$9.00	$9.00	$9.00	$9.00
South Carolina	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
South Dakota †	$8.50	$8.50	$8.50	$8.50
Tennessee	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Texas	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Utah	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Vermont †	$9.15	$9.60	$10.00	$10.50
Virginia	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Washington *	$9.47	$9.67	$9.87	$10.09
West Virginia	$8.00	$8.75	$8.75	$8.75
Wisconsin	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25
Wyoming	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25	$7.25

 

If the waiter doesn't make enough to meet the required amount for that pay period, hours worked, the employer must kick in the remaining amount.

Tips are counted and taxed.

I think, instead of relying on tips, the employer needs to just go on and pay minimum wage.

And yes, the guy paying has every right to leave as much or as little tip as he sees fit.

 

flan327 wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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It's a hard job.

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 And thankless all too often!

flan

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 Yes, I know people who do it.  And SOME customers definitely are petty and rude.  And not all employers will pay the difference in salary.  Sorry, that just doesn't always work.  And some restaurants the waitress makes a good tip but she also has to share her tip with the bus boy, hostess, and cooks.  So in perfect world yes, the waitress gets her due amount.  In the real world that doesn't always happen.

And you can leave whatever tip you want but if you go back and read the OP the guy who didn't leave the tip wrote on the receipt that he didn't leave a tip because he needed to put gas in his car.  If you can't afford to be eating out then stay home and eat ramen noodles.  Or at least pick a place you can afford.

I was being facetious.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I was being facetious.

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 If you can't afford to be eating out then stay home and eat ramen noodles.  Or at least pick a place you can afford.

No you weren't.

I think that tip should be figured in when deciding whether one can afford to eat at a particular restaurant. Same as cost of gas and hotels should be figured in when deciding to take a road trip vs. flying. It's the bottom line cost.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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It's a hard job.

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 And thankless all too often!

flan

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 Yes, I know people who do it.  And SOME customers definitely are petty and rude.  And not all employers will pay the difference in salary.  Sorry, that just doesn't always work.  And some restaurants the waitress makes a good tip but she also has to share her tip with the bus boy, hostess, and cooks.  So in perfect world yes, the waitress gets her due amount.  In the real world that doesn't always happen.

And you can leave whatever tip you want but if you go back and read the OP the guy who didn't leave the tip wrote on the receipt that he didn't leave a tip because he needed to put gas in his car.  If you can't afford to be eating out then stay home and eat ramen noodles.  Or at least pick a place you can afford.

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 Uh, yeah. The employer is required by law to make sure the employee makes what is equal to minimum wage.

That's the law.

Period.

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My question is, if the guy complaining about the tip was unemployed, why is he not getting ripped a new one?

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 If you're referring to the guy on my FB page he was getting ripped a new one.  He was pretty darn angry about it.  He feels like stiffing people is okay.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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My question is, if the guy complaining about the tip was unemployed, why is he not getting ripped a new one?

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 Actually, I think that is the way NJN presented it.  Showing the irony in his posts.  She right, the kid even goes as far as saying why take such a low paying job.

Our wait staff makes about $10 an hour. I tip 15% for adequate service and 20% for good service.

Some unemployed guy has no business eating out like that when he obviously can't afford it.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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FNW wrote:

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I think that tip should be figured in when deciding whether one can afford to eat at a particular restaurant. Same as cost of gas and hotels should be figured in when deciding to take a road trip vs. flying. It's the bottom line cost.

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 I agree.  The man in the OP spent $89 on food and left a $3 tip.  He could have still gone out to eat but at a less expensive place.

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 This agrees with what you said above.  So, if that was being facetious, is this flat out sarcasm?

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I always tip at least 20%. More if the service is good or if I am eating off the special menu late night. Friday I tipped $12 off a $15 bill. My breakfast was on special for $2.99 and he did the same work if I had ordered to $15 meal I was going to. Our servers mostly are paid well above minimum wage. My Ex was a server and made $18/HR. His average tips on a slow night were ?150 and up to $400 on a busy night. My brother makes about $80k as a server in a restaurant/club on the Strip.

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If you can afford to eat--at ANY PLACE--you can afford an extra 15% for the tip.

Unless the service was bad--you should tip that much.

You can cry and p!ss and moan all you want about how they should pay more and not rely on tips--but that isn't the reality we have now.

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 Exactly.  It's one thing to not tip b/c of bad service.  It's a whole different issue to not tip because you chose to order more than you could afford.

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 We rarely go out, but when we do, we always tip at least 15%. DH is often more generous than I am.

flan

Whats with the Canadasowhite hash tag? Am I offended?

We always tip 15 to 20%. Usually 20% because I round up. But, it isn't illegal to be a jerk. It isn't illegal to stiff the wait staff. And, i suppose if enough people did that, the restaurants would have to figure out another way to employ their staff and most likely raise prices.
And, if working for $2 an hour, they must be making some pretty good tips

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Tignanello wrote:

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Whats with the Canadasowhite hash tag? Am I offended?

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 I'm quite certainly it's a result of an argument with the other Canadian on the board. 

 

Good to see you Tig!

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 Hi!  Its good to be seen!  Life has had me by the tiger-tail for the last few months but things seem to be letting up now.  I've been managing a full time job, two practicums, a thesis and school, and it will all come to a screeching halt on April 30th.  I just have to hold on till then!

I think that hashtag should be removed.  Regardless of it's origin, as a standalone hashtag it's in violation of the racial speech rules of this board.  To come in and see it was shocking.  Especially to not have the context.  I figured there was backstory, and I guessed (apparently rather accurately what it was) but that doesn't make it okay for it to be a stand alone thing.  It's icky.