TOTALLY GEEKED!

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

#racisthatefulhashtag

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Wow. You really have a bug up your butt about that. This isn't a "vote". There are board rules which i follow. Just because you complain and don't like something, then everyone is supposed to cave to that? So much for freedom of speech.
Obviously you want to start a war over this for some reason when you could simply just scroll on by.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Yup. I have a 'bug up my butt' about racism and hate speech. I don't apologize for that. Keep defending yourself though. Interesting that you see my request as a 'war'. Way to escalate. All I request is adherence to board rules and a respectful community.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I don't see the hate or racism at all.

And the "board members take offense" could become a real problem.

I've never been a supporter of censorship.

If we truly are voting, then I vote

NAY.

Ohfour · Hooker

Good to see you Tig! But I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. There is nothing at all racist about that.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

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Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Hi Ohfour! Good to see you too!

I wonder if that is because it is my country that is being ridiculed by the hashtag? Would you feel differently if it was a hashtag designed to highlight your state/city/religion/political affiliation or other aspect of your identity?

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

I was not terribly fond of the hashtag either, Tig.
It is nasty, and directed at one person in particular. I think that yws, it ought to be taken down.
Where are the mods? I am curious for one to weigh in. . .

huskerbb · Guru

Tignanello wrote:
I vote that member tagline and signatures that violate the racism and hate speech rules of the board be removed at the request of (1) board members who take offense at the racist undertones or implied hate speech or (2) mods when that racism or hate speech is brought to their attention.
While I am sure that there are backstories and inside jokes that result in the anti-Canadian hashtag currently being used by Gaga to a board member coming in and seeing it out of context it is very offensive. I also wonder how it would be interpreted by new board members.
The rules of this board clearly state that racism and hate speech (defined as attacking a group of people for who they are) will not be tolerated by the mods. I have already respectfully asked Gaga to remove this post and she has declined. I now respectfully request that the board mods and participants invoke their own rules and bylaws.
Thank you.
(ps - Canada is not predominantly White. What part have you been to??!)

WTF??? Canadas population is more than 76% white.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

The graph backs up my hashtag. Not really sure what your problem is, but that is YOUR problem.

huskerbb · Guru

Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
I was not terribly fond of the hashtag either, Tig.
It is nasty, and directed at one person in particular. I think that yws, it ought to be taken down.
Where are the mods? I am curious for one to weigh in. . .

well, Gaga herself admits that it is a spinoff of the Oscars So White campaign which was designed to bring attention to rampant racism in the Oscars electoral board. So it's hard to say that #Canadasowhite isn't a racist accusation about Canadians. Also, the graphs are from 2006. Here's a current one from my city. English speakers are less than 50%. Of that, a good chunk are First Nations or Metis. Not White. So keep trying.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.

If you (general you) can't take her comments, either:

1. Grow a thicker skin

~or~

2. Leave

WHY is Tig hypocritical?

Imagine being a member of an Uber-Liberal board, husker. I welcome the company.

flan

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.

#Canadasowhite isn't about 1 poster. It's about an entire Nation.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.
If you (general you) can't take her comments, either:
1. Grow a thicker skin
~or~
2. Leave
WHY is Tig hypocritical?
Imagine being a member of an Uber-Liberal board, husker. I welcome the company.
flan

LOL!!! I never said that I couldn't take them--but why is the reverse not applicable? People should be able to "take" the subject of this thread.

huskerbb · Guru

Tignanello wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.
#Canadasowhite isn't about 1 poster. It's about an entire Nation.

And so are her comments more often than not.

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.
If you (general you) can't take her comments, either:
1. Grow a thicker skin
~or~
2. Leave
WHY is Tig hypocritical?
Imagine being a member of an Uber-Liberal board, husker. I welcome the company.
flan

We're not the ones complaining. Our skin is just fine. And I was a part of a liberal board. The stupidity was astounding...

huskerbb · Guru

Tignanello wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
I was not terribly fond of the hashtag either, Tig.
It is nasty, and directed at one person in particular. I think that yws, it ought to be taken down.
Where are the mods? I am curious for one to weigh in. . .
well, Gaga herself admits that it is a spinoff of the Oscars So White campaign which was designed to bring attention to rampant racism in the Oscars electoral board. So it's hard to say that #Canadasowhite isn't a racist accusation about Canadians. Also, the graphs are from 2006. Here's a current one from my city. English speakers are less than 50%. Of that, a good chunk are First Nations or Metis. Not White. So keep trying.

Who cares? She didn't say vancouversowhite. The entire country is more than THREE FOURTHS white. That is a FACT. It's not racist to state a fact.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Tignanello wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.
#Canadasowhite isn't about 1 poster. It's about an entire Nation.

So what? We are allowed to make comments about entire nations.

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.
If you (general you) can't take her comments, either:
1. Grow a thicker skin
~or~
2. Leave
WHY is Tig hypocritical?
Imagine being a member of an Uber-Liberal board, husker. I welcome the company.
flan
We're not the ones complaining. Our skin is just fine. And I was a part of a liberal board. The stupidity was astounding...

Good point. Gaga didn't start the b!tchfest.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.
If you (general you) can't take her comments, either:
1. Grow a thicker skin
~or~
2. Leave
WHY is Tig hypocritical?
Imagine being a member of an Uber-Liberal board, husker. I welcome the company.
flan
We're not the ones complaining. Our skin is just fine. And I was a part of a liberal board. The stupidity was astounding...

What was husker doing then?

Right back atcha...

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

How is it racist?

It's more a statement of fact.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.
#Canadasowhite isn't about 1 poster. It's about an entire Nation.
So what? We are allowed to make comments about entire nations.

The mods will make a determination as to whether or not you can make (allegedly) racially charged and/or (allegedly) hate-based tag lines. Comments you can make and opinions you can have. Just not when they cross into racism and hate speech. That's my point. The mods will determine if this crosses a line.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.
If you (general you) can't take her comments, either:
1. Grow a thicker skin
~or~
2. Leave
WHY is Tig hypocritical?
Imagine being a member of an Uber-Liberal board, husker. I welcome the company.
flan
We're not the ones complaining. Our skin is just fine. And I was a part of a liberal board. The stupidity was astounding...
What was husker doing then?
Right back atcha...
flan

I didn't start the thread.

Lindley · Guru

Tig, doesn't bash the United States. What I read from her posts she sounds like a very sweet person.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.
If you (general you) can't take her comments, either:
1. Grow a thicker skin
~or~
2. Leave
WHY is Tig hypocritical?
Imagine being a member of an Uber-Liberal board, husker. I welcome the company.
flan
We're not the ones complaining. Our skin is just fine. And I was a part of a liberal board. The stupidity was astounding...
Good point. Gaga didn't start the b!tchfest.

Oh, please. Gaga loves a good fight, even if she has to engineer one.

flan

FNW · Guru

I don't see anything hateful about it either. I cast the "who cares" vote.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lindley wrote:
Tig, doesn't bash the United States. What I read from her posts she sounds like a very sweet person.

She is amazing...a counselor who works her butt off to help those in need.

flan

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

lilyofcourse wrote:
How is it racist?

It's more a statement of fact.

On the tipping thread, Gaga stated that this hashtag is a spin off of the Oscars So White campaign which was designed to bring awareness to huge amounts of racism in the Oscars Awards. To change Oscars to Canada suggests that - by her own logic - she is accusing Canada as a whole of being racist, which is untrue. It is the classification of an entire nation as racist that makes it hate speech. And offensive to me as a Canadian. And as an individual I have to stand up against hate speech and racism. Especially when it is disguised as a joke.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

On GT, I was asked to remove a Bible verse because it was considered "hateful".

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Starting a thread to complain about another poster would seem to violate board rules. Just saying.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
How is it racist?

It's more a statement of fact.
On the tipping thread, Gaga stated that this hashtag is a spin off of the Oscars So White campaign which was designed to bring awareness to huge amounts of racism in the Oscars Awards. To change Oscars to Canada suggests that - by her own logic - she is accusing Canada as a whole of being racist, which is untrue. It is the classification of an entire nation as racist that makes it hate speech. And offensive to me as a Canadian. And as an individual I have to stand up against hate speech and racism. Especially when it is disguised as a joke.

Ok. But you took offense before she said that.

So, before she said that, what made it racist instead of a statement of fact?

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.
If you (general you) can't take her comments, either:
1. Grow a thicker skin
~or~
2. Leave
WHY is Tig hypocritical?
Imagine being a member of an Uber-Liberal board, husker. I welcome the company.
flan
We're not the ones complaining. Our skin is just fine. And I was a part of a liberal board. The stupidity was astounding...
Good point. Gaga didn't start the b!tchfest.
Oh, please. Gaga loves a good fight, even if she has to engineer one.
flan

I'm not b!tching. Just explaining my perspective from a calm perspective. Backed up with the rules of the board. I'm not attacking anyone personally or passive aggressively. I also asked nicely that the hashtag be removed on a different thread and was responded to in an extremely rude way - to which I did not respond in kind.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I'm not trying to fight.

I'm trying to understand.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
How is it racist?

It's more a statement of fact.
On the tipping thread, Gaga stated that this hashtag is a spin off of the Oscars So White campaign which was designed to bring awareness to huge amounts of racism in the Oscars Awards. To change Oscars to Canada suggests that - by her own logic - she is accusing Canada as a whole of being racist, which is untrue. It is the classification of an entire nation as racist that makes it hate speech. And offensive to me as a Canadian. And as an individual I have to stand up against hate speech and racism. Especially when it is disguised as a joke.

Tig,

You have explained your position logically & politely. I hope the Mods listen.

flan

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

lilyofcourse wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
How is it racist?

It's more a statement of fact.
On the tipping thread, Gaga stated that this hashtag is a spin off of the Oscars So White campaign which was designed to bring awareness to huge amounts of racism in the Oscars Awards. To change Oscars to Canada suggests that - by her own logic - she is accusing Canada as a whole of being racist, which is untrue. It is the classification of an entire nation as racist that makes it hate speech. And offensive to me as a Canadian. And as an individual I have to stand up against hate speech and racism. Especially when it is disguised as a joke.
Ok. But you took offense before she said that.
So, before she said that, what made it racist instead of a statement of fact?

The hashtag was recognizable before she admitted it. :D

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Tignanello wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.
If you (general you) can't take her comments, either:
1. Grow a thicker skin
~or~
2. Leave
WHY is Tig hypocritical?
Imagine being a member of an Uber-Liberal board, husker. I welcome the company.
flan
We're not the ones complaining. Our skin is just fine. And I was a part of a liberal board. The stupidity was astounding...
Good point. Gaga didn't start the b!tchfest.
Oh, please. Gaga loves a good fight, even if she has to engineer one.
flan
I'm not b!tching. Just explaining my perspective from a calm perspective. Backed up with the rules of the board. I'm not attacking anyone personally or passive aggressively. I also asked nicely that the hashtag be removed on a different thread and was responded to in an extremely rude way - to which I did not respond in kind.

And, board rules don't allow you to start threads about individual posters and question mod rules. MY signature line was not in violation in any way. Just because YOU find offense in something doesnt' mean everyone has to rush out to remove whatever your perceived offense is.

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

I'm going to talk to the other Mods about this.

We'll get back to you ASAP.

(Good to see you, Tig!)

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
How is it racist?

It's more a statement of fact.
On the tipping thread, Gaga stated that this hashtag is a spin off of the Oscars So White campaign which was designed to bring awareness to huge amounts of racism in the Oscars Awards. To change Oscars to Canada suggests that - by her own logic - she is accusing Canada as a whole of being racist, which is untrue. It is the classification of an entire nation as racist that makes it hate speech. And offensive to me as a Canadian. And as an individual I have to stand up against hate speech and racism. Especially when it is disguised as a joke.
Tig,
You have explained your position logically & politely. I hope the Mods listen.
flan

And, using the main board to debate the mods and attack a poster is not something that is usually done on any board.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.
If you (general you) can't take her comments, either:
1. Grow a thicker skin
~or~
2. Leave
WHY is Tig hypocritical?
Imagine being a member of an Uber-Liberal board, husker. I welcome the company.
flan
We're not the ones complaining. Our skin is just fine. And I was a part of a liberal board. The stupidity was astounding...
Good point. Gaga didn't start the b!tchfest.
Oh, please. Gaga loves a good fight, even if she has to engineer one.
flan
I'm not b!tching. Just explaining my perspective from a calm perspective. Backed up with the rules of the board. I'm not attacking anyone personally or passive aggressively. I also asked nicely that the hashtag be removed on a different thread and was responded to in an extremely rude way - to which I did not respond in kind.
And, board rules don't allow you to start threads about individual posters and question mod rules. MY signature line was not in violation in any way. Just because YOU find offense in something doesnt' mean everyone has to rush out to remove whatever your perceived offense is.

I believe your signature line IS in violation. I asked you to remove it and you declined. So I've asked the mods. I haven't asked anyone to rush out and do anything.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Fort Worth Mom wrote:
I'm going to talk to the other Mods about this.
We'll get back to you ASAP.
(Good to see you, Tig!)

Hi FWM! Good to see you! It's been a while. I should have brought popcorn . . .

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

But, i guess if you stomp and kick up enough fuss then you just expect everyone will cave to your opinion? Oh ok. I wrote nothing wrong. Canada is predominantly white. Period. If that is somehow "racist" to say that a predominantly white country is predominantly white, then that is some convoluted logic.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Tignanello wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tig, I realize it isn't you--but there is a certain poster on here from Canada who consistently and constantly bashes the U.S. and everything about it.

It's a little hypocritical to be all butt hurt about this.
If you (general you) can't take her comments, either:
1. Grow a thicker skin
~or~
2. Leave
WHY is Tig hypocritical?
Imagine being a member of an Uber-Liberal board, husker. I welcome the company.
flan
We're not the ones complaining. Our skin is just fine. And I was a part of a liberal board. The stupidity was astounding...
Good point. Gaga didn't start the b!tchfest.
Oh, please. Gaga loves a good fight, even if she has to engineer one.
flan
I'm not b!tching. Just explaining my perspective from a calm perspective. Backed up with the rules of the board. I'm not attacking anyone personally or passive aggressively. I also asked nicely that the hashtag be removed on a different thread and was responded to in an extremely rude way - to which I did not respond in kind.
And, board rules don't allow you to start threads about individual posters and question mod rules. MY signature line was not in violation in any way. Just because YOU find offense in something doesnt' mean everyone has to rush out to remove whatever your perceived offense is.
I believe your signature line IS in violation. I asked you to remove it and you declined. So I've asked the mods. I haven't asked anyone to rush out and do anything.

It is not in violation of anything. And, just because you don't like certain speech or comments doesnt' mean that the board runs according to your whims. You can scroll on by. There is nothing profane about it in any way, shape or form.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
How is it racist?

It's more a statement of fact.
On the tipping thread, Gaga stated that this hashtag is a spin off of the Oscars So White campaign which was designed to bring awareness to huge amounts of racism in the Oscars Awards. To change Oscars to Canada suggests that - by her own logic - she is accusing Canada as a whole of being racist, which is untrue. It is the classification of an entire nation as racist that makes it hate speech. And offensive to me as a Canadian. And as an individual I have to stand up against hate speech and racism. Especially when it is disguised as a joke.
Tig,
You have explained your position logically & politely. I hope the Mods listen.
flan
And, using the main board to debate the mods and attack a poster is not something that is usually done on any board.

Mods are not being debated. Racism and hate speech is. Are you feeling attacked? I don't see anyone attacking you - I'm not doing it. I don't see anyone attacking me either. In fact, this thread is quite civil. I did say you responded in a rude manner on the other thread. But that's a fact that others can see for themselves. (and actual fact - not a racist or hate speech based one . . . )

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
How is it racist?

It's more a statement of fact.
On the tipping thread, Gaga stated that this hashtag is a spin off of the Oscars So White campaign which was designed to bring awareness to huge amounts of racism in the Oscars Awards. To change Oscars to Canada suggests that - by her own logic - she is accusing Canada as a whole of being racist, which is untrue. It is the classification of an entire nation as racist that makes it hate speech. And offensive to me as a Canadian. And as an individual I have to stand up against hate speech and racism. Especially when it is disguised as a joke.
Ok. But you took offense before she said that.
So, before she said that, what made it racist instead of a statement of fact?
The hashtag was recognizable before she admitted it. :D

Well, I just don't see it.

I will agree to disagree.

I still love ya!

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
But, i guess if you stomp and kick up enough fuss then you just expect everyone will cave to your opinion? Oh ok. I wrote nothing wrong. Canada is predominantly white. Period. If that is somehow "racist" to say that a predominantly white country is predominantly white, then that is some convoluted logic.

Do you need to go read your other posts on the tipping thread where you - yourself - equated the hashtag to racism?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

And, then you won't like the next comment, and the next and the next and conservatives won't be allowed to have their opinions. I have been very civil. I didn't respond to you rudely at all. You just merely attacked me out of the blue.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

lilyofcourse wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
How is it racist?

It's more a statement of fact.
On the tipping thread, Gaga stated that this hashtag is a spin off of the Oscars So White campaign which was designed to bring awareness to huge amounts of racism in the Oscars Awards. To change Oscars to Canada suggests that - by her own logic - she is accusing Canada as a whole of being racist, which is untrue. It is the classification of an entire nation as racist that makes it hate speech. And offensive to me as a Canadian. And as an individual I have to stand up against hate speech and racism. Especially when it is disguised as a joke.
Ok. But you took offense before she said that.
So, before she said that, what made it racist instead of a statement of fact?
The hashtag was recognizable before she admitted it. :D
Well, I just don't see it.
I will agree to disagree.
I still love ya!

Missed you Lily! Thank you for helping me keep this thread civil!

Honeys_Mom · Mod & Permanent Board Sweetheart

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
And, then you won't like the next comment, and the next and the next and conservatives won't be allowed to have their opinions. I have been very civil. I didn't respond to you rudely at all. You just merely attacked me out of the blue.

I'm not seeing any attack here, LGS. Did I miss a post somewhere?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
How is it racist?

It's more a statement of fact.
On the tipping thread, Gaga stated that this hashtag is a spin off of the Oscars So White campaign which was designed to bring awareness to huge amounts of racism in the Oscars Awards. To change Oscars to Canada suggests that - by her own logic - she is accusing Canada as a whole of being racist, which is untrue. It is the classification of an entire nation as racist that makes it hate speech. And offensive to me as a Canadian. And as an individual I have to stand up against hate speech and racism. Especially when it is disguised as a joke.
Ok. But you took offense before she said that.
So, before she said that, what made it racist instead of a statement of fact?
The hashtag was recognizable before she admitted it. :D
Well, I just don't see it.
I will agree to disagree.
I still love ya!
Missed you Lily! Thank you for helping me keep this thread civil!

That's me, Captain Civility!