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huskerbb · Guru

RE: Dear Abby: Brother Donating Sperm to Brother

Mary Zombie · Guru

Just because you don't think it's a lot to ask doesn't mean it's not in fact a lot to ask. And the brother asking should be willing to compromise and agree to Counseling and some of their terms if it's that important to him. So he should get his way all of the time?

huskerbb · Guru

Mary Zombie wrote:
Just because you don't think it's a lot to ask doesn't mean it's not in fact a lot to ask. And the brother asking should be willing to compromise and agree to Counseling and some of their terms if it's that important to him. So he should get his way all of the time?

The donating brother in this case must agree with me, apparently.

should he get his way all the time? No. Should he get his way on an issue that IN NO WAY affects his wife--yes.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Mary Zombie wrote:
Just because you don't think it's a lot to ask doesn't mean it's not in fact a lot to ask. And the brother asking should be willing to compromise and agree to Counseling and some of their terms if it's that important to him. So he should get his way all of the time?
The donating brother in this case must agree with me, apparently.

should he get his way all the time? No. Should he get his way on an issue that IN NO WAY affects his wife--yes.

No where does it say that. It actually reads quite the opposite. That's he's afraid of his brother's reaction.

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Mary Zombie wrote:
Just because you don't think it's a lot to ask doesn't mean it's not in fact a lot to ask. And the brother asking should be willing to compromise and agree to Counseling and some of their terms if it's that important to him. So he should get his way all of the time?
The donating brother in this case must agree with me, apparently.

should he get his way all the time? No. Should he get his way on an issue that IN NO WAY affects his wife--yes.
No where does it say that. It actually reads quite the opposite. That's he's afraid of his brother's reaction.

Then he can man up and say so. He doesn't need his wife to get in the middle of it.

If that's her only issue, then she's doubly wrong. I don't get between my wife and her sisters. She can handle that on her own.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Monday 21st of March 2016 05:10:07 PM

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Mary Zombie wrote:
Just because you don't think it's a lot to ask doesn't mean it's not in fact a lot to ask. And the brother asking should be willing to compromise and agree to Counseling and some of their terms if it's that important to him. So he should get his way all of the time?
The donating brother in this case must agree with me, apparently.

should he get his way all the time? No. Should he get his way on an issue that IN NO WAY affects his wife--yes.

But it does. She may always see the child as her husband's. I would do anything for my husband's children. I love them unconditionally. I would see this child just as I do his other children.

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Mary Zombie wrote:
Just because you don't think it's a lot to ask doesn't mean it's not in fact a lot to ask. And the brother asking should be willing to compromise and agree to Counseling and some of their terms if it's that important to him. So he should get his way all of the time?
The donating brother in this case must agree with me, apparently.

should he get his way all the time? No. Should he get his way on an issue that IN NO WAY affects his wife--yes.
But it does. She may always see the child as her husband's. I would do anything for my husband's children. I love them unconditionally. I would see this child just as I do his other children.

That's her problem in her deluded mind.

I would do anything for my brothers' children, so what's the difference? How is it a problem if she loves a niece or nephew?

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Mary Zombie wrote:
Just because you don't think it's a lot to ask doesn't mean it's not in fact a lot to ask. And the brother asking should be willing to compromise and agree to Counseling and some of their terms if it's that important to him. So he should get his way all of the time?
The donating brother in this case must agree with me, apparently.

should he get his way all the time? No. Should he get his way on an issue that IN NO WAY affects his wife--yes.
But it does. She may always see the child as her husband's. I would do anything for my husband's children. I love them unconditionally. I would see this child just as I do his other children.
That's her problem in her deluded mind.
I would do anything for my brothers' children, so what's the difference? How is it a problem if she loves a niece or nephew?

So I shouldn't love my husband's children as my own? I would do FAR more for his children than I would do for my niece and nephew. And I do. This child would be just as much his as the ones he has now...

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Mary Zombie wrote:
Just because you don't think it's a lot to ask doesn't mean it's not in fact a lot to ask. And the brother asking should be willing to compromise and agree to Counseling and some of their terms if it's that important to him. So he should get his way all of the time?
The donating brother in this case must agree with me, apparently.

should he get his way all the time? No. Should he get his way on an issue that IN NO WAY affects his wife--yes.
But it does. She may always see the child as her husband's. I would do anything for my husband's children. I love them unconditionally. I would see this child just as I do his other children.
That's her problem in her deluded mind.
I would do anything for my brothers' children, so what's the difference? How is it a problem if she loves a niece or nephew?
So I shouldn't love my husband's children as my own? I would do FAR more for his children than I would do for my niece and nephew. And I do. This child would be just as much his as the ones he has now...

It wouldn't be his child.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Mary Zombie wrote:
Just because you don't think it's a lot to ask doesn't mean it's not in fact a lot to ask. And the brother asking should be willing to compromise and agree to Counseling and some of their terms if it's that important to him. So he should get his way all of the time?
The donating brother in this case must agree with me, apparently.

should he get his way all the time? No. Should he get his way on an issue that IN NO WAY affects his wife--yes.
But it does. She may always see the child as her husband's. I would do anything for my husband's children. I love them unconditionally. I would see this child just as I do his other children.
That's her problem in her deluded mind.
I would do anything for my brothers' children, so what's the difference? How is it a problem if she loves a niece or nephew?
So I shouldn't love my husband's children as my own? I would do FAR more for his children than I would do for my niece and nephew. And I do. This child would be just as much his as the ones he has now...
It wouldn't be his child.

It would be as much his child as his other children...

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Mary Zombie wrote:
Just because you don't think it's a lot to ask doesn't mean it's not in fact a lot to ask. And the brother asking should be willing to compromise and agree to Counseling and some of their terms if it's that important to him. So he should get his way all of the time?
The donating brother in this case must agree with me, apparently.

should he get his way all the time? No. Should he get his way on an issue that IN NO WAY affects his wife--yes.
But it does. She may always see the child as her husband's. I would do anything for my husband's children. I love them unconditionally. I would see this child just as I do his other children.
That's her problem in her deluded mind.
I would do anything for my brothers' children, so what's the difference? How is it a problem if she loves a niece or nephew?
So I shouldn't love my husband's children as my own? I would do FAR more for his children than I would do for my niece and nephew. And I do. This child would be just as much his as the ones he has now...
It wouldn't be his child.
It would be as much his child as his other children...

That's bull and you know it. So every sperm donor's biological children are just as much his as any he raises?? Complete BS.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Mary Zombie wrote:
Just because you don't think it's a lot to ask doesn't mean it's not in fact a lot to ask. And the brother asking should be willing to compromise and agree to Counseling and some of their terms if it's that important to him. So he should get his way all of the time?
The donating brother in this case must agree with me, apparently.

should he get his way all the time? No. Should he get his way on an issue that IN NO WAY affects his wife--yes.
But it does. She may always see the child as her husband's. I would do anything for my husband's children. I love them unconditionally. I would see this child just as I do his other children.
That's her problem in her deluded mind.
I would do anything for my brothers' children, so what's the difference? How is it a problem if she loves a niece or nephew?
So I shouldn't love my husband's children as my own? I would do FAR more for his children than I would do for my niece and nephew. And I do. This child would be just as much his as the ones he has now...
It wouldn't be his child.
It would be as much his child as his other children...
That's bull and you know it. So every sperm donor's biological children are just as much his as any he raises?? Complete BS.

When they are part of the family and my kids think he is their cousin instead of their brother. And I have to see them all the time...

Tinydancer · Guru

I couldn't look at a child fathered by my husband as anything other than his child. I don't think my husband could look at any child he fathered as anything but his child. You might be fine with that husker but you really seem to be the only one. I call BS on you. I bet your wife would have a lot to say about something like this.

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Mary Zombie wrote:
Just because you don't think it's a lot to ask doesn't mean it's not in fact a lot to ask. And the brother asking should be willing to compromise and agree to Counseling and some of their terms if it's that important to him. So he should get his way all of the time?
The donating brother in this case must agree with me, apparently.

should he get his way all the time? No. Should he get his way on an issue that IN NO WAY affects his wife--yes.
But it does. She may always see the child as her husband's. I would do anything for my husband's children. I love them unconditionally. I would see this child just as I do his other children.
That's her problem in her deluded mind.
I would do anything for my brothers' children, so what's the difference? How is it a problem if she loves a niece or nephew?
So I shouldn't love my husband's children as my own? I would do FAR more for his children than I would do for my niece and nephew. And I do. This child would be just as much his as the ones he has now...
It wouldn't be his child.
It would be as much his child as his other children...
That's bull and you know it. So every sperm donor's biological children are just as much his as any he raises?? Complete BS.
When they are part of the family and my kids think he is their cousin instead of their brother. And I have to see them all the time...

He would be their cousin. I'm very close to my cousins. We grew up together. NOT A BIG DEAL.

Ohfour · Hooker

No, he would be their biological brother. You cant dispute DNA, right?

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
No, he would be their biological brother. You cant dispute DNA, right?

So it's only DNA that makes a father, now?

huskerbb · Guru

Plus, any child would share DNA with the LW's kids, anyway--even if the brother was fertile.

Non-identical siblings have 99.95% similar DNA, actually.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Monday 21st of March 2016 09:22:29 PM

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
No, he would be their biological brother. You cant dispute DNA, right?
So it's only DNA that makes a father, now?

Yep. You either are the father or youre not. You can be an adoptive father, but you have only one biological father. Period.

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
No, he would be their biological brother. You cant dispute DNA, right?
So it's only DNA that makes a father, now?
Yep. You either are the father or youre not. You can be an adoptive father, but you have only one biological father. Period.

Oh, so all the adoptive fathers and step fathers aren't "real" fathers. I see.

Ohfour · Hooker

You can have an unlimited amount of adopted fathers or step fathers. You only have one biological father. Ever.

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
You can have an unlimited amount of adopted fathers or step fathers. You only have one biological father. Ever.

So what? DNA alone doesn't make a father. We've said that over and over.

All the adoptive fathers and good step fathers out there appreciate how little regard you have for their roles.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
You can have an unlimited amount of adopted fathers or step fathers. You only have one biological father. Ever.
So what? DNA alone doesn't make a father. We've said that over and over.

All the adoptive fathers and good step fathers out there appreciate how little regard you have for their roles.

Then the brother doesn't need the sperm - he can adopt. His wife can go to a sperm bank. If the DNA doesn't matter - then it doesn't matter.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
You can have an unlimited amount of adopted fathers or step fathers. You only have one biological father. Ever.
So what? DNA alone doesn't make a father. We've said that over and over.

All the adoptive fathers and good step fathers out there appreciate how little regard you have for their roles.
Then the brother doesn't need the sperm - he can adopt. His wife can go to a sperm bank. If the DNA doesn't matter - then it doesn't matter.

He could--or his brother could give him the sperm.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
You can have an unlimited amount of adopted fathers or step fathers. You only have one biological father. Ever.
So what? DNA alone doesn't make a father. We've said that over and over.

All the adoptive fathers and good step fathers out there appreciate how little regard you have for their roles.

Yeah right. Im not talking emotion, I'm talking biology. If you cant grasp that, then you are just as cray cray as the ones that say gender is in the head. DNA is DNA, except when it doesn't suit your agenda, huh?

DNA DOES make a father. Every single time. Adoption or marrying a mother does not every time...

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
You can have an unlimited amount of adopted fathers or step fathers. You only have one biological father. Ever.
So what? DNA alone doesn't make a father. We've said that over and over.

All the adoptive fathers and good step fathers out there appreciate how little regard you have for their roles.
Yeah right. Im not talking emotion, I'm talking biology. If you cant grasp that, then you are just as cray cray as the ones that say gender is in the head. DNA is DNA, except when it doesn't suit your agenda, huh?
DNA DOES make a father. Every single time. Adoption or marrying a mother does not every time...

So what?

Ohfour · Hooker

So, it will always be the husbands son. ALWAYS. You cant sign away DNA.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yup.

Tinydancer · Guru

But but but bros before hos every time. How can you argue with a grown man who thinks like that? Will any logical thing you say make a difference to this kind of thinking. I'd still like to know how calling your wife a ho makes you such a great husband.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Having a child outside of your marriage is a very real issue. And, the LW asked for reasonable consideration of going to counseling or whatever. And, her husband really doesn't sound to excited about this either. So, no and no and no.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Having a child outside of your marriage is a very real issue. And, the LW asked for reasonable consideration of going to counseling or whatever. And, her husband really doesn't sound to excited about this either. So, no and no and no.

Counseling for what? Ridiculous notion. Counseling is worthless, anyway.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Having a child outside of your marriage is a very real issue. And, the LW asked for reasonable consideration of going to counseling or whatever. And, her husband really doesn't sound to excited about this either. So, no and no and no.
Counseling for what? Ridiculous notion. Counseling is worthless, anyway.

That's what most all mentally ill people say...

Tinydancer · Guru

I'd still like to know why you think of your wife as a ho.

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Having a child outside of your marriage is a very real issue. And, the LW asked for reasonable consideration of going to counseling or whatever. And, her husband really doesn't sound to excited about this either. So, no and no and no.
Counseling for what? Ridiculous notion. Counseling is worthless, anyway.
That's what most all mentally ill people say...

Oh, you mean her.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
I'd still like to know why you think of your wife as a ho.

I don't. Only women who would make a big issue out of this would be classified as such.

Tinydancer · Guru

So any woman who disagrees with you is a ho? Got it.

huskerbb · Guru

you said it, not me.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Having a child outside of your marriage is a very real issue. And, the LW asked for reasonable consideration of going to counseling or whatever. And, her husband really doesn't sound to excited about this either. So, no and no and no.
Counseling for what? Ridiculous notion. Counseling is worthless, anyway.
That's what most all mentally ill people say...
Oh, you mean her.

Don't know where in the world you got that I was talking about "her" whoever she may be...

Tinydancer · Guru

husker never recognizes himself.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
you said it, not me.

No, you said it. And you should be very careful. You just called just about every woman here a ho. You better tread lightly...

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
I'd still like to know why you think of your wife as a ho.
I don't. Only women who would make a big issue out of this would be classified as such.

JIC

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
you said it, not me.
No, you said it. And you should be very careful. You just called just about every woman here a ho. You better tread lightly...

I said no such thing.

Tinydancer · Guru

Yes you did...lol

huskerbb · Guru

The only one I used that reference in relation to was the LW of the original post. If you identify with that, that's your problem.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
you said it, not me.
No, you said it. And you should be very careful. You just called just about every woman here a ho. You better tread lightly...
I said no such thing.

Absolutely you did. You will have no one to defend you on this one dude...

Ohfour · Hooker

You said women that would make a big deal out of this are Hos. We've all said it would be a deal breaker for us. You just called us all hos.

Tinydancer · Guru

Wait where's flan. She usually jumps in here to tell me how misunderstood husker is?

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
You said women that would make a big deal out of this are Hos. We've all said it would be a deal breaker for us. You just called us all hos.

if you infer that, that is on you. The only one I used that reference against was the LW in the OP.

Tinydancer · Guru

Sure. That's what you meant. You're so funny...

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
You said women that would make a big deal out of this are Hos. We've all said it would be a deal breaker for us. You just called us all hos.
if you infer that, that is on you. The only one I used that reference against was the LW in the OP.

Nice, backpedal. Nope. You said what you said. You did not say the LW, you said, "women", and that includes the women on this board that have POSTED OVER AND OVER that this would be a bid deal.

Cheerios4606 · Guru

Allow my husband to father someone else's children? Hell no! I would see that kid as his child and I would be reminded of it every time we had family visits.