Dear Amy: Our daughter is a bright, talented 19-year-old who has already gotten four small tattoos, several ear piercings, and a nose ring. You know — the usual. She has now told us about her next piece, an elbow-to-shoulder full-color floral arrangement. She says she is planning to start gauging her ears and was considering a dermal implant near her collarbone.
My husband and I pay for her college tuition and housing, and we give her a generous monthly allowance for food and gas. She also has a part-time minimum-wage job. We told her that we felt that someone who could pay for these body modifications was saying that she had no need for extra funds, so if she proceeded, we would stop the allowance. We would still pay for college and housing.
She expressed her hurt that we would withhold that money in an attempt to control her actions. We expressed our frustration with the permanent changes she was considering at a young age. We are asking her to wait till she’s 21 and working so that this doesn’t affect her ability to get a job. I really do hate threatening to stop the extra money, but I felt it was a natural consequence of making adult decisions.
Are we being too harsh? Where does the parental guidance end and the self-expression begin? Six months ago she wanted us to co-sign for an apartment so she could leave student housing and move in with her boyfriend. We refused that too. —Only Slightly Old-Fashioned Mom
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She struggles not to judge niece for growing tattoo collection
Dear Mom: You are not trying to control your daughter’s actions — I hope. You are simply trying to make the best possible investment, as well as introduce her to the concept of natural consequences. You are not docking her pay to punish her. You are saying, “We will pay for this — you can pay for that.” I assume that if your daughter chose to use your subsidy to purchase a video gaming system, you might feel exactly the same way. Imagine how much more meaningful her tat-sleeve will be to her when she has saved up the money for it.
Otherwise, I don’t think you should weigh in at all on her body modification choices. It’s her body.
Um, no. My son wanted to get a tattoo. I said, if you have money to burn on tattoos, then you apparently dont' need my financial help because there is no way i am going to subsidize your life if that is what you are doing. I don't care if he gets them or not. You just aren't going to do it on my nickel when i am paying room, board, and tuition.
And she wanted them to cosign for an apt so she could shack up with the flavor of the month. Time to teach Little Miss Entitled that life doesn't owe you a free ride.
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Caitlyn now has a tattoo. I'm not thrilled with it but it was her money and she is 21.
If the daughter wants something like that, pay for it yourself.
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I agree with everyone. I so hate ear gauges. They really make me want to gag. And there is no going back from that. Ick.
Actually, it depends on how big the gauges are. DS2 started and, somehow, I managed to keep my mouth shut. His lobes look fine now. (I forget how long he had them in...that's probably a factor too.)
I agree with everyone. I so hate ear gauges. They really make me want to gag. And there is no going back from that. Ick.
Actually, it depends on how big the gauges are. DS2 started and, somehow, I managed to keep my mouth shut. His lobes look fine now. (I forget how long he had them in...that's probably a factor too.)
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I'm sure if they stop early it will recover but I'm talking about like the bounty hunter on Survivor. His lobes are all floppy & disgusting.
I agree with everyone. I so hate ear gauges. They really make me want to gag. And there is no going back from that. Ick.
Actually, it depends on how big the gauges are. DS2 started and, somehow, I managed to keep my mouth shut. His lobes look fine now. (I forget how long he had them in...that's probably a factor too.)
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I'm sure if they stop early it will recover but I'm talking about like the bounty hunter on Survivor. His lobes are all floppy & disgusting.
I'm so glad my son wasn't into tattoos or piercings even while he was working show production or in a band.. he said he was the one who was unique and different in the band.
I'm so glad my son wasn't into tattoos or piercings even while he was working show production or in a band.. he said he was the one who was unique and different in the band.
I don't even try to control the behavior of adult children. But I won't support bad decisions either. If you want a tattoo you're not getting one if you live under my roof. DN got one on her wrist when she wasn't living here. It's a small pretty cross. I hate where it is though. She once lost a job because of having a visible tattoo.
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But if that's the worse they do, they have to live with it.
Picking battles is what keeps my sanity.
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If the allowance is for food and gas, exclusively, then I see their point. If it's for whatever you need or want then I wouldn't see their point. According to the letter it's for the first one.
If she wants Tattoo-Mon-Ee, she needs to get a J-O-B.
Even if i didn't specify, I would still expect that money isn't not being used for stupid, frivolous nonsense. Yeah, here's your allowance. I wouldnt necessarily just say food and gas. There are other costs to living. Like buying toilet paper, shampoo, personal care products, etc. I would expect my child to be reasonable about what they are purchasing and I would understand there are things that don't fit in the food and gas category. But a tattoo is just frivolous.
Even if i didn't specify, I would still expect that money isn't not being used for stupid, frivolous nonsense. Yeah, here's your allowance. I wouldnt necessarily just say food and gas. There are other costs to living. Like buying toilet paper, shampoo, personal care products, etc. I would expect my child to be reasonable about what they are purchasing and I would understand there are things that don't fit in the food and gas category. But a tattoo is just frivolous.
And I wouldn't begrudge the occasional trip to the movies, either. But a ten dollar movie ticket is different than a $200 tattoo.
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Sounds like daughter is one of those dippy millennialis that thinks she can do whatever and there aren't any consequences.
Doing that stupid thing with her ears pretty much means her future career will include the phrase "you want fries with that", or "do you want a private dance."
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Sounds like daughter is one of those dippy millennialis that thinks she can do whatever and there aren't any consequences.
Doing that stupid thing with her ears pretty much means her future career will include the phrase "you want fries with that", or "do you want a private dance."
Or perhaps no words just sticking her chest out on the pole!