TOTALLY GEEKED!

huskerbb · Guru

RE: Baseball star, 36, walks away from $13MILLION and retires because the Sox said his son, 14, had to stop hanging arou

Ohfour · Hooker

Until it's confirmed that EVERY DAY was in the contract, I'm going to doubt it. If he did indeed have a contract that said that, then he could have VERY easily fought this.

FNW · Guru

Where is the boy's mother?

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Until it's confirmed that EVERY DAY was in the contract, I'm going to doubt it. If he did indeed have a contract that said that, then he could have VERY easily fought this.

That's what the article said. You are more than welcome to find information to refute that if such exists.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I must be weird, but I still think it's neat that a teen WANTED to be with his Dad that much.

flan

msrock · Guru

flan327 wrote:
I must be weird, but I still think it's neat that a teen WANTED to be with his Dad that much.

flan

Maybe he wants to be a major league player and this serves as a good opportunity for him.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
I must be weird, but I still think it's neat that a teen WANTED to be with his Dad that much.

flan

He is homeschooled. So, what other choice does he have but to go where his parents take him?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You don't have any right to bring your kid to work if you don't OWN the business. If you own the business, fine. But, if you are employed by the business, you don't have the right to make that presumption. And, other players aren't necessarily going to complain. I mean who wants to be the big meanie and say i really don't want your kid here? This is a business. The other players were hired to conduct business. The kid wasn't hired. He had no business whatsoever to be there, to take up the time of his dad or other players and potentially interfere. He may have been a quiet presence, but that doesn't mean he didn't distract others from their jobs either. It's just very entitled in my opinion.
So, I don't think this is some heroic thing. It's nice. But, i think that i see heros around me. Men going into the coal mines and leaving their kids to support their families. Not quite the same thing to quit your multimillion job on "principal" after your bank account is full.
I mean, i don't mean to slam him. I am sure he is very sincere. He is probably a very good father with a very nice son. But, I just think he is trying to make them out as being unfair to him when that is not true at all in my opinion.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I must be weird, but I still think it's neat that a teen WANTED to be with his Dad that much.

flan
He is homeschooled. So, what other choice does he have but to go where his parents take him?

At 14, he could find other things to do.

flan

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Where does it say he was homeschooled?
And there seems to be ZERO hard feelings or a fight of any kind about this. They asled, he thought about it, decided to retire early. It sounds like his season was struggling anyways.
Silly to make a fuss.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You don't have any right to bring your kid to work if you don't OWN the business. If you own the business, fine. But, if you are employed by the business, you don't have the right to make that presumption. And, other players aren't necessarily going to complain. I mean who wants to be the big meanie and say i really don't want your kid here? This is a business. The other players were hired to conduct business. The kid wasn't hired. He had no business whatsoever to be there, to take up the time of his dad or other players and potentially interfere. He may have been a quiet presence, but that doesn't mean he didn't distract others from their jobs either. It's just very entitled in my opinion.
So, I don't think this is some heroic thing. It's nice. But, i think that i see heros around me. Men going into the coal mines and leaving their kids to support their families. Not quite the same thing to quit your multimillion job on "principal" after your bank account is full.
I mean, i don't mean to slam him. I am sure he is very sincere. He is probably a very good father with a very nice son. But, I just think he is trying to make them out as being unfair to him when that is not true at all in my opinion.

If your employment contract stipulates that you have that right--then you most certainly do.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Thanks, husker. I'm guessing he wanted his son to know that HE was more important.

flan

Um it's not an either/or. Did u work when your kids were growing up? Guess we should all quit our jobs.

msrock · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You don't have any right to bring your kid to work if you don't OWN the business. If you own the business, fine. But, if you are employed by the business, you don't have the right to make that presumption. And, other players aren't necessarily going to complain. I mean who wants to be the big meanie and say i really don't want your kid here? This is a business. The other players were hired to conduct business. The kid wasn't hired. He had no business whatsoever to be there, to take up the time of his dad or other players and potentially interfere. He may have been a quiet presence, but that doesn't mean he didn't distract others from their jobs either. It's just very entitled in my opinion.
So, I don't think this is some heroic thing. It's nice. But, i think that i see heros around me. Men going into the coal mines and leaving their kids to support their families. Not quite the same thing to quit your multimillion job on "principal" after your bank account is full.
I mean, i don't mean to slam him. I am sure he is very sincere. He is probably a very good father with a very nice son. But, I just think he is trying to make them out as being unfair to him when that is not true at all in my opinion.

Thank you! I mean seriously??? lol.

msrock · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You don't have any right to bring your kid to work if you don't OWN the business. If you own the business, fine. But, if you are employed by the business, you don't have the right to make that presumption. And, other players aren't necessarily going to complain. I mean who wants to be the big meanie and say i really don't want your kid here? This is a business. The other players were hired to conduct business. The kid wasn't hired. He had no business whatsoever to be there, to take up the time of his dad or other players and potentially interfere. He may have been a quiet presence, but that doesn't mean he didn't distract others from their jobs either. It's just very entitled in my opinion.
So, I don't think this is some heroic thing. It's nice. But, i think that i see heros around me. Men going into the coal mines and leaving their kids to support their families. Not quite the same thing to quit your multimillion job on "principal" after your bank account is full.
I mean, i don't mean to slam him. I am sure he is very sincere. He is probably a very good father with a very nice son. But, I just think he is trying to make them out as being unfair to him when that is not true at all in my opinion.
If your employment contract stipulates that you have that right--then you most certainly do.

Sure. But here is another example of how the point just went right over your head. Because you are obstinate. lol! He didn't give a crap about his teammates. Until now. He retired. Bye!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Thanks, husker. I'm guessing he wanted his son to know that HE was more important.

flan
Um it's not an either/or. Did u work when your kids were growing up? Guess we should all quit our jobs.

BASEBALL is different, and his son was participating.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

No it's not. It's his job. I don't let siblings or parents into my basketball practices. We are there to focus. Sheesh.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

And the other players are there to earn their livings. They shouldn't have to put up with that.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

From Sports Illustrated:

LaRoche, the son of longtime major league reliever Dave LaRoche (whose last game, incidentally, was also with those ’83 Yankees) and the older brother of fringe major leaguer Andy LaRoche, spent considerable time in clubhouses himself while growing up, and he wanted his son to share that experience. When LaRoche re-signed with the Nationals following the 2012 season, after Drake and his sister Montana begged him to stay home, Adam and his wife, Jenn, instead made arrangements with the team and with Drake's school that allowed the teenager to join his dad at the ballpark. Drake kept busy by scrubbing players’ cleats, shagging fly balls, gathering baseballs and fetching water and sunflower seeds—all while also getting to hone his baseball skills under the eyes of major league players and coaches.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Ok. So?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

BTW there are also child labor laws as well. Other businesses could not get away with that.

msrock · Guru

Apparently... the other players didn't share his zeal. It's all good now.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
BTW there are also child labor laws as well. Other businesses could not get away with that.

that does not apply. He isn't working for the team.

huskerbb · Guru

msrock wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You don't have any right to bring your kid to work if you don't OWN the business. If you own the business, fine. But, if you are employed by the business, you don't have the right to make that presumption. And, other players aren't necessarily going to complain. I mean who wants to be the big meanie and say i really don't want your kid here? This is a business. The other players were hired to conduct business. The kid wasn't hired. He had no business whatsoever to be there, to take up the time of his dad or other players and potentially interfere. He may have been a quiet presence, but that doesn't mean he didn't distract others from their jobs either. It's just very entitled in my opinion.
So, I don't think this is some heroic thing. It's nice. But, i think that i see heros around me. Men going into the coal mines and leaving their kids to support their families. Not quite the same thing to quit your multimillion job on "principal" after your bank account is full.
I mean, i don't mean to slam him. I am sure he is very sincere. He is probably a very good father with a very nice son. But, I just think he is trying to make them out as being unfair to him when that is not true at all in my opinion.
If your employment contract stipulates that you have that right--then you most certainly do.
Sure. But here is another example of how the point just went right over your head. Because you are obstinate. lol! He didn't give a crap about his teammates. Until now. He retired. Bye!

So, if yiur contract specifies you get three weeks paid vacation, and the the company says we need Yiu here so you only get one, you'd be happy with that?

TrudyML · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I must be weird, but I still think it's neat that a teen WANTED to be with his Dad that much.

flan
He is homeschooled. So, what other choice does he have but to go where his parents take him?
At 14, he could find other things to do.
flan

Smoke pot!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

It's pretty easy to make some "statement" when you are at the end of your multimillion dollar career with your padded bank account. Kind of like Sheryl Crow telling us how many squares of toilet paper to use.

Ohfour · Hooker

He had a contract. Bringing his son every day was part of that contract. That's one of the reasons he signed with them, that that would be guaranteed and contracted. The club reneged. If I were him, I would sue for the remaining 13 million. He did nothing wrong...

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
He had a contract. Bringing his son every day was part of that contract. That's one of the reasons he signed with them, that that would be guaranteed and contracted. The club reneged. If I were him, I would sue for the remaining 13 million. He did nothing wrong...

I think he could. I just think he doesn't want the hassle.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Where does it say that in the contract? And, does it say the kid can be there every day for the entire day and PARTICIPATING in the training and practicing ?

Ohfour · Hooker

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Where does it say that in the contract? And, does it say the kid can be there every day for the entire day and PARTICIPATING in the training and practicing ?

I've read several places that his contract stated that. The last team he played for, he was given the same contract, to bring his son with him every day...

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Where does it say that in the contract? And, does it say the kid can be there every day for the entire day and PARTICIPATING in the training and practicing ?

In some whereas clause in the fine print, I would suppose.

huskerbb · Guru

It sounds like the players are backing Laroche, and not management. Laroche is also likely to file a grievance through the players association due to the contract issue.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well if it is in the contract then it might cost them some money.

huskerbb · Guru

But it also shows that the alleged player complaints were nonsense. One player is calling the team president a liar.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
But it also shows that the alleged player complaints were nonsense. One player is calling the team president a liar.

Thanks for the update, husker. I'm intrigued by the story.

flan

weltschmerz · Guru

flan327 wrote:
From Sports Illustrated:

LaRoche, the son of longtime major league reliever Dave LaRoche (whose last game, incidentally, was also with those ’83 Yankees) and the older brother of fringe major leaguer Andy LaRoche, spent considerable time in clubhouses himself while growing up, and he wanted his son to share that experience. When LaRoche re-signed with the Nationals following the 2012 season, after Drake and his sister Montana begged him to stay home, Adam and his wife, Jenn, instead made arrangements with the team and with Drake's school that allowed the teenager to join his dad at the ballpark. Drake kept busy by scrubbing players’ cleats, shagging fly balls, gathering baseballs and fetching water and sunflower seeds—all while also getting to hone his baseball skills under the eyes of major league players and coaches.

flan

And what about the sister, Montana?

She gets left out in the cold?

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
flan327 wrote:
From Sports Illustrated:

LaRoche, the son of longtime major league reliever Dave LaRoche (whose last game, incidentally, was also with those ’83 Yankees) and the older brother of fringe major leaguer Andy LaRoche, spent considerable time in clubhouses himself while growing up, and he wanted his son to share that experience. When LaRoche re-signed with the Nationals following the 2012 season, after Drake and his sister Montana begged him to stay home, Adam and his wife, Jenn, instead made arrangements with the team and with Drake's school that allowed the teenager to join his dad at the ballpark. Drake kept busy by scrubbing players’ cleats, shagging fly balls, gathering baseballs and fetching water and sunflower seeds—all while also getting to hone his baseball skills under the eyes of major league players and coaches.

flan
And what about the sister, Montana?
She gets left out in the cold?

She probably doesn't care for baseball. She hangs with mom. No biggie...

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
flan327 wrote:
From Sports Illustrated:

LaRoche, the son of longtime major league reliever Dave LaRoche (whose last game, incidentally, was also with those ’83 Yankees) and the older brother of fringe major leaguer Andy LaRoche, spent considerable time in clubhouses himself while growing up, and he wanted his son to share that experience. When LaRoche re-signed with the Nationals following the 2012 season, after Drake and his sister Montana begged him to stay home, Adam and his wife, Jenn, instead made arrangements with the team and with Drake's school that allowed the teenager to join his dad at the ballpark. Drake kept busy by scrubbing players’ cleats, shagging fly balls, gathering baseballs and fetching water and sunflower seeds—all while also getting to hone his baseball skills under the eyes of major league players and coaches.

flan
And what about the sister, Montana?
She gets left out in the cold?
She probably doesn't care for baseball. She hangs with mom.
No biggie...

She wants to hang out with Dad more. It's right there in the post. Clearly, she wants to spend more time with her father.

*after Drake and his sister Montana begged him to stay home*

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
flan327 wrote:
From Sports Illustrated:

LaRoche, the son of longtime major league reliever Dave LaRoche (whose last game, incidentally, was also with those ’83 Yankees) and the older brother of fringe major leaguer Andy LaRoche, spent considerable time in clubhouses himself while growing up, and he wanted his son to share that experience. When LaRoche re-signed with the Nationals following the 2012 season, after Drake and his sister Montana begged him to stay home, Adam and his wife, Jenn, instead made arrangements with the team and with Drake's school that allowed the teenager to join his dad at the ballpark. Drake kept busy by scrubbing players’ cleats, shagging fly balls, gathering baseballs and fetching water and sunflower seeds—all while also getting to hone his baseball skills under the eyes of major league players and coaches.

flan
And what about the sister, Montana?
She gets left out in the cold?
She probably doesn't care for baseball. She hangs with mom.
No biggie...
She wants to hang out with Dad more. It's right there in the post. Clearly, she wants to spend more time with her father.
*after Drake and his sister Montana begged him to stay home*

So what? That has nothing to do with anything. He will be spending more time with her now, undoubtedly.

Ohfour · Hooker

Meh, a clubhouse is no place for a girl. They would not have allowed that. I'm sure she gets special treatment in other places.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
flan327 wrote:
From Sports Illustrated:

LaRoche, the son of longtime major league reliever Dave LaRoche (whose last game, incidentally, was also with those ’83 Yankees) and the older brother of fringe major leaguer Andy LaRoche, spent considerable time in clubhouses himself while growing up, and he wanted his son to share that experience. When LaRoche re-signed with the Nationals following the 2012 season, after Drake and his sister Montana begged him to stay home, Adam and his wife, Jenn, instead made arrangements with the team and with Drake's school that allowed the teenager to join his dad at the ballpark. Drake kept busy by scrubbing players’ cleats, shagging fly balls, gathering baseballs and fetching water and sunflower seeds—all while also getting to hone his baseball skills under the eyes of major league players and coaches.

flan
And what about the sister, Montana?
She gets left out in the cold?
She probably doesn't care for baseball. She hangs with mom.
No biggie...
She wants to hang out with Dad more. It's right there in the post. Clearly, she wants to spend more time with her father.
*after Drake and his sister Montana begged him to stay home*

I ..have.....to.......ag....ag.....agre......agree.......with.......Welts....

Ohfour · Hooker

The girl was not an option. Even if she wanted to. But i doubt she did. Shes hangin with mom.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
The girl was not an option. Even if she wanted to. But i doubt she did. Shes hangin with mom.

How do you know she wasn't an option? Why didn't he make her an option as well?

Ohfour · Hooker

Because there is a rule (that i think is an MLB rule), that no women can be in the locker room. There was a big to do about this a few years ago. Even women reporters are not allowed into the lock room.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

So what? They don't practice in the locker room. What does that have to do with anything?

Ohfour · Hooker

Huh? There is a no women rule. That means no women. His son had a locker and hung out there. They spend quite a bit of time there. And she would have to go somewhere else...

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Huh? There is a no women rule. That means no women. His son had a locker and hung out there. They spend quite a bit of time there. And she would have to go somewhere else...

So what? He is a millionaire. The nanny could have watched her when they had locker room time.

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
The girl was not an option. Even if she wanted to. But i doubt she did. Shes hangin with mom.

She WANTS to spend more time with Dad. Mom has nothing to do with it, and the girl shouldn't be treated like chopped liver.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
The girl was not an option. Even if she wanted to. But i doubt she did. Shes hangin with mom.
She WANTS to spend more time with Dad. Mom has nothing to do with it, and the girl shouldn't be treated like chopped liver.

Shes not allowed....thems the rules...

Ohfour · Hooker

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Huh? There is a no women rule. That means no women. His son had a locker and hung out there. They spend quite a bit of time there. And she would have to go somewhere else...
So what? He is a millionaire. The nanny could have watched her when they had locker room time.

Meh, she probably happier with mom than with a nanny...

Different rules for girls. Suck it up, buttercup.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
The girl was not an option. Even if she wanted to. But i doubt she did. Shes hangin with mom.
She WANTS to spend more time with Dad. Mom has nothing to do with it, and the girl shouldn't be treated like chopped liver.
Shes not allowed....thems the rules...

And thems rules is that they don't want kids there. Suck it up buttercup.