A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
It wasn't a nasty question. People read into it. Oh4's answer was perfectly acceptable & true. She has said many times that G does the cooking. Weltz's response to Oh4 was uncalled for.
Lily's response to Weltz's question was uncalled for.
It wasn't a nasty question. People read into it. Oh4's answer was perfectly acceptable & true. She has said many times that G does the cooking. Weltz's response to Oh4 was uncalled for.
Lily's response to Weltz's question was uncalled for.
Why? What did what anyone's husbands do have to do with the topic at hand?
And "uncalled for"?? Well, that is going to be a matter of opinion, isn't it? And how exactly do you know that people "read into it" and it wasn't meant exactly how it was taken?
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
We know you don't cook or clean or go to the store.
So Lexxy and jlbear - this wasn't a nasty comment to a what is a benign response to the question asked?
So, we know ohFour does not usually cook, that NJN is a SAH, some people work full time, some work part time. Some have families, some are just poster/SO and some are single. O4 was holding her own when she responded. And IDKWTD calling her a troll is not a nasty comment? Lily is clearly stirring the pot just as much and yet, no reprimand. That is a double standard especially if it is coming from you the moderator, not you the poster. It seem that the three of you were continuing in making this as contention as possible especially by bringing in comments about other posts.
Maybe her reputation does precede her, so what. Ignore her. Yet the three of you tend to stir the pot a little more instead of letting things settle. Especially with lily baiting Weltz.
At least, that is how it appears. And this is not the only thread that this has happened on.
Weltz started the nasty comments, people are allowed to call her out on it.
Weltz said only one thing that would be considered out of line. And that was in response to ohFour's comment. "I was addressing the gals on this thread". And it looked like ohFour countered pretty well. Then LGS started the stirring the pot again with her comments that basically Wetlz should not have even read the thread since she started it. Then you stirred a little more and chimed in about drama free posts and warning about trolling the post. Then it just went downhill from there with lily and weltz bickering back and forth. If weltz is trolling on this thread, then so is lily.
We know you don't cook or clean or go to the store.
So Lexxy and jlbear - this wasn't a nasty comment to a what is a benign response to the question asked?
So, we know ohFour does not usually cook, that NJN is a SAH, some people work full time, some work part time. Some have families, some are just poster/SO and some are single. O4 was holding her own when she responded. And IDKWTD calling her a troll is not a nasty comment? Lily is clearly stirring the pot just as much and yet, no reprimand. That is a double standard especially if it is coming from you the moderator, not you the poster. It seem that the three of you were continuing in making this as contention as possible especially by bringing in comments about other posts.
Maybe her reputation does precede her, so what. Ignore her. Yet the three of you tend to stir the pot a little more instead of letting things settle. Especially with lily baiting Weltz.
At least, that is how it appears. And this is not the only thread that this has happened on.
Weltz started the nasty comments, people are allowed to call her out on it.
Weltz said only one thing that would be considered out of line. And that was in response to ohFour's comment. "I was addressing the gals on this thread". And it looked like ohFour countered pretty well. Then LGS started the stirring the pot again with her comments that basically Wetlz should not have even read the thread since she started it. Then you stirred a little more and chimed in about drama free posts and warning about trolling the post. Then it just went downhill from there with lily and weltz bickering back and forth. If weltz is trolling on this thread, then so is lily.
Actually, I'm quite certain the "we know you don't cook, or clean, or go to the store" was the intended dig. But go ahead and ignore that part.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
7. Crock pot roast with root vegetables Green beans Strawberry pie
8. Steamed tilapia over rice pilaf Broccoli slaw Frozen banana
9. Knock off Chic-fil-a sandwiches Waffle fries Ice cream
10. Taco soup Cornbread Jello
11. Individual meatloaf Mashed potatoes Green peas Baked apples
12. Roast chicken Glazed carrots Mac and cheese Brownies
This was my first post on this thread.
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Don`t any husbands cook? Seems like it's all falling on the wives' shoulders. Working wives.
This is weltz's first post.
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Now you look at the definition of a troll and see which one fits it.
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We know you don't cook or clean or go to the store.
Weltz's second post.
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Isn't stirring the pot of a post that is considered a troll continuing the trolling? It certainly was stirring the pot. You knew you were baiting weltz.
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
G cooks...he does most of the housework.
I was addressing the gals posting on this thread.
We know you don't cook or clean or go to the store.
Well la ti da.
Just making sure you knew that men cook too.
G cooks. He cooks well!
She's trying to stir the pot on the thread I started. You would think she would avoid me when she can clearly see who started the thread since she constantly CLAIMS she doens't want to talk to us. Go figure.
Yeah, I got one of those, too.
It's like having your own little twisted groupie!
Maybe not your first, but starting with this one.
lilyofcourse wrote:
Weltz, honey, I'm going to type slowly so maybe you can grasp the concept.
When
You
Asked
About
The
Husband's
That
Was
The
Hissy
Fit
-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Monday 21st of March 2016 02:44:30 PM
Continued more with this one
lilyofcourse wrote:
Tell me Weltzie, do you ever get tired of dragging that baggage around?
Lugging issues from one thread to another.
Carrying all that insecurity must be exhausting.
And then there is you continuing to bait and keep the contention going.
Or do I have you confused with another poster? Most of this back and forth is between you and weltz. You would think that at least one of you would ignore the other. Yet neither of you leave it alone. You both end up baiting each other. Yet you try to act all innocent.
Isn't stirring the pot of a post that is considered a troll continuing the trolling? It certainly was stirring the pot. You knew you were baiting weltz.
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
G cooks...he does most of the housework.
I was addressing the gals posting on this thread.
We know you don't cook or clean or go to the store.
Well la ti da.
Just making sure you knew that men cook too.
G cooks. He cooks well!
She's trying to stir the pot on the thread I started. You would think she would avoid me when she can clearly see who started the thread since she constantly CLAIMS she doens't want to talk to us. Go figure.
Yeah, I got one of those, too.
It's like having your own little twisted groupie!
Maybe not your first, but starting with this one.
lilyofcourse wrote:
Weltz, honey, I'm going to type slowly so maybe you can grasp the concept.
When
You
Asked
About
The
Husband's
That
Was
The
Hissy
Fit
-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Monday 21st of March 2016 02:44:30 PM
Continued more with this one
lilyofcourse wrote:
Tell me Weltzie, do you ever get tired of dragging that baggage around?
Lugging issues from one thread to another.
Carrying all that insecurity must be exhausting.
And then there is you continuing to bait and keep the contention going.
Or do I have you confused with another poster? Most of this back and forth is between you and weltz. You would think that at least one of you would ignore the other. Yet neither of you leave it alone. You both end up baiting each other. Yet you try to act all innocent.
And I love how this quote chain pretty much ignores all of Weltz's responses.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Isn't stirring the pot of a post that is considered a troll continuing the trolling? It certainly was stirring the pot. You knew you were baiting weltz.
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
G cooks...he does most of the housework.
I was addressing the gals posting on this thread.
We know you don't cook or clean or go to the store.
Well la ti da.
Just making sure you knew that men cook too.
G cooks. He cooks well!
She's trying to stir the pot on the thread I started. You would think she would avoid me when she can clearly see who started the thread since she constantly CLAIMS she doens't want to talk to us. Go figure.
Yeah, I got one of those, too.
It's like having your own little twisted groupie!
Maybe not your first, but starting with this one.
lilyofcourse wrote:
Weltz, honey, I'm going to type slowly so maybe you can grasp the concept.
When
You
Asked
About
The
Husband's
That
Was
The
Hissy
Fit
-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Monday 21st of March 2016 02:44:30 PM
Continued more with this one
lilyofcourse wrote:
Tell me Weltzie, do you ever get tired of dragging that baggage around?
Lugging issues from one thread to another.
Carrying all that insecurity must be exhausting.
And then there is you continuing to bait and keep the contention going.
Or do I have you confused with another poster? Most of this back and forth is between you and weltz. You would think that at least one of you would ignore the other. Yet neither of you leave it alone. You both end up baiting each other. Yet you try to act all innocent.
Oh. I'm not innocent. I don't pretend to be.
But I have been ignoring a poster for well over 6 months now and they keep on after me.
So where is your attempt to discipline of that poster?
I still fail to see how asking a question is trolling on my part when it was in direct response to a question that had absolutely nothing to do with the thread.
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We know you don't cook or clean or go to the store.
Well la ti da.
Just making sure you knew that men cook too.
G cooks. He cooks well!
I believe that Ohfour remarked back pretty well here. And it is nothing that Ohfour never admitted herself in the past.
Was it rude? Maybe. Could it have been sarcastic? Possible. Did it need to go to Defcon Three levels? No.
Defcon Three? Really? If it has reached that, then I'd have to say you've had a hand in that.
-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Monday 21st of March 2016 04:54:06 PM
The thread that has everyone bickering back and forth? Ohfours response was fine. Kept it level headed and nothing nasty about it.
It was the following threads that have people riled up. I had a hand it that? Really? By staying neutral and pointing out how others were being nasty and baiting? I believed I pointed out flaws from both sides.
And all this mostly over a perceived slight about husbands not cooking! Even you admitted that because it came from weltz, that it struck you the wrong way. If it had come from someone else, this probably would not be an issue at all.
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
I don't see how asking if any husbands cook is a hissy fit. It was a legitimate question.
It wasn't the question - it was the way the question was thrown out there. As if our husbands are somehow lacking b/c they don't cook when our wives work.
Admittedly, if it was anyone else, I'd probably have taken the question as concern rather than a slam. But, well, her reputation precedes her.
The thread that has everyone bickering back and forth? Ohfours response was fine. Kept it level headed and nothing nasty about it.
It was the following threads that have people riled up. I had a hand it that? Really? By staying neutral and pointing out how others were being nasty and baiting? I believed I pointed out flaws from both sides.
And all this mostly over a perceived slight about husbands not cooking! Even you admitted that because it came from weltz, that it struck you the wrong way. If it had come from someone else, this probably would not be an issue at all.
The immediate nasty response to ohfour show's the attitude she entered the thread with. It's pretty much the same attitude she enters just about every thread. Would you like to go read some of them? She especially likes to go on Gaga's threads and derail them before anyone has said so much as boo to her. It is an obvious pattern. Pretending it doesn't exist is laughable.
There is none so blind as those that do not see.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Oh, I've read them. And my comment in my head is that this is just so junior high mean girls, why can't people grow the heck up? Notice I don't usually respond. I ignore it 99% of the time.
I do understand that it can be frustrating. Hell, the bitching is what made me respond to this thread when I usually ignore it. I like talking about food and menu planning and such.
But if you know it's a pattern, responding to it will only inflame the situation. You know what is happening and yet, it continues. Both sides end up with dirt on them. You cannot claim that one side is not just as inflammatory when it is happening. It may be in response, but both sides are just as guilty. It takes two sides for the nastiness to continue.
I've read those posts and more. I have also seen where the attacks on weltz start even before her sarcastic attitude comes in, especially when religion is involved (not often but it happens). There is a lot of posts that could be considered controversial and baiting. Some of the stuff that gets posted seems like it is posted for intentional baiting. LGS starts a lot of threads, some that are considered humorous and some serious. Out of 27 threads on the first page, 13 were started by LGS. I am not trying to single anyone out but the facts speak for themselves. "Boaty McBoatface" and weltz saying "Your opinion is irrelevant. You don't live there" is one example where that same phrase that weltz expressed has been told to her from US posters many times. Or that she is not religious/agnostic so she has no say. So her saying it back is controversial?
There are threads on which I have posted an opposing opinion, not controversial, and have been just this side of being slammed for having a different opinion from the popular view. I have gotten PMs warning me about having different views from popular opinion.
You people give as good as you get but some of you can't handle it when you get.
-- Edited by jlbear71 on Monday 21st of March 2016 05:48:28 PM
The thread that has everyone bickering back and forth? Ohfours response was fine. Kept it level headed and nothing nasty about it.
It was the following threads that have people riled up. I had a hand it that? Really? By staying neutral and pointing out how others were being nasty and baiting? I believed I pointed out flaws from both sides.
And all this mostly over a perceived slight about husbands not cooking! Even you admitted that because it came from weltz, that it struck you the wrong way. If it had come from someone else, this probably would not be an issue at all.
The immediate nasty response to ohfour show's the attitude she entered the thread with. It's pretty much the same attitude she enters just about every thread. Would you like to go read some of them? She especially likes to go on Gaga's threads and derail them before anyone has said so much as boo to her. It is an obvious pattern. Pretending it doesn't exist is laughable.
I ignored her for months. I'm done with that. If she's going to continue, I'm calling her out on it.
And while I appreciate and understand your comments, they would be better received if perhaps you did on occasion call out the people who start the nastiness rather than those that simply respond to it.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I ignored her for months. I'm done with that. If she's going to continue, I'm calling her out on it.
And while I appreciate and understand your comments, they would be better received if perhaps you did on occasion call out the people who start the nastiness rather than those that simply respond to it.
Are you saying her comments are "nasty" in every thread?
There is a HUGE difference between stating a differing opinion & kissing butt.
I ignored her for months. I'm done with that. If she's going to continue, I'm calling her out on it.
And while I appreciate and understand your comments, they would be better received if perhaps you did on occasion call out the people who start the nastiness rather than those that simply respond to it.
Are you saying her comments are "nasty" in every thread?
There is a HUGE difference between stating a differing opinion & kissing butt.
flan
???? Where did I say that?
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
My husband cooked quite a bit. He was a great cook. My son does all the cooking in his relationship.
Asking if husbands do any of the cooking is not trolling, no matter how you slice it.
We know you don't cook or clean or go to the store.
So Lexxy and jlbear - this wasn't a nasty comment to a what is a benign response to the question asked?
So, we know ohFour does not usually cook, that NJN is a SAH, some people work full time, some work part time. Some have families, some are just poster/SO and some are single. O4 was holding her own when she responded. And IDKWTD calling her a troll is not a nasty comment? Lily is clearly stirring the pot just as much and yet, no reprimand. That is a double standard especially if it is coming from you the moderator, not you the poster. It seem that the three of you were continuing in making this as contention as possible especially by bringing in comments about other posts.
Maybe her reputation does precede her, so what. Ignore her. Yet the three of you tend to stir the pot a little more instead of letting things settle. Especially with lily baiting Weltz.
At least, that is how it appears. And this is not the only thread that this has happened on.
I posted a definition of an internet troll, interestingly enough those wanting to defend Weltz immediately assumed it was about her (with good reason) but my point is you all felt similar or you wouldn't equate my internet definition with Welts' posts. And I haven't said anything, until now, about Weltz on this thread.
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Oh, no! You don't disappoint! You did exactly what was expected. Excuse a poster when you called out another for doing the same thing. Nothing unusual there!
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We know you don't cook or clean or go to the store.
So Lexxy and jlbear - this wasn't a nasty comment to a what is a benign response to the question asked?
So, we know ohFour does not usually cook, that NJN is a SAH, some people work full time, some work part time. Some have families, some are just poster/SO and some are single. O4 was holding her own when she responded. And IDKWTD calling her a troll is not a nasty comment? Lily is clearly stirring the pot just as much and yet, no reprimand. That is a double standard especially if it is coming from you the moderator, not you the poster. It seem that the three of you were continuing in making this as contention as possible especially by bringing in comments about other posts.
Maybe her reputation does precede her, so what. Ignore her. Yet the three of you tend to stir the pot a little more instead of letting things settle. Especially with lily baiting Weltz.
At least, that is how it appears. And this is not the only thread that this has happened on.
I posted a definition of an internet troll, interestingly enough those wanting to defend Weltz immediately assumed it was about her (with good reason) but my point is you all felt similar or you wouldn't equate my internet definition with Welts' posts. And I haven't said anything, until now, about Weltz on this thread.
You are right. I assumed that you were talking about weltz considering the rest of the threads that you quoted were talking about her.
In general, I am tired of the attacks on this board and it does not matter who started it.
I don't see how asking if any husbands cook is a hissy fit. It was a legitimate question.
I thought the same thing. But since everyone else seemed offended I figured it was just me.
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Um I don't think this thread is about me. I wasn't offended by weltz asking who cooked. Not sure how that implies I made it about me.
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We know you don't cook or clean or go to the store.
So Lexxy and jlbear - this wasn't a nasty comment to a what is a benign response to the question asked?
So, we know ohFour does not usually cook, that NJN is a SAH, some people work full time, some work part time. Some have families, some are just poster/SO and some are single. O4 was holding her own when she responded. And IDKWTD calling her a troll is not a nasty comment? Lily is clearly stirring the pot just as much and yet, no reprimand. That is a double standard especially if it is coming from you the moderator, not you the poster. It seem that the three of you were continuing in making this as contention as possible especially by bringing in comments about other posts.
Maybe her reputation does precede her, so what. Ignore her. Yet the three of you tend to stir the pot a little more instead of letting things settle. Especially with lily baiting Weltz.
At least, that is how it appears. And this is not the only thread that this has happened on.
I posted a definition of an internet troll, interestingly enough those wanting to defend Weltz immediately assumed it was about her (with good reason) but my point is you all felt similar or you wouldn't equate my internet definition with Welts' posts. And I haven't said anything, until now, about Weltz on this thread.
You are right. I assumed that you were talking about weltz considering the rest of the threads that you quoted were talking about her.
In general, I am tired of the attacks on this board and it does not matter who started it.
So, you talking about LGS when she isn't even a part of this discussion with the disclaimer, "I'm not trying to single anyone out" isn't an attack on her or baiting with that topic? It's just as much of one as anything else.
"There is a lot of posts that could be considered controversial and baiting. Some of the stuff that gets posted seems like it is posted for intentional baiting. LGS starts a lot of threads, some that are considered humorous and some serious. Out of 27 threads on the first page, 13 were started by LGS. I am not trying to single anyone out but the facts speak for themselves."
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I don't see how asking if any husbands cook is a hissy fit. It was a legitimate question.
I thought the same thing. But since everyone else seemed offended I figured it was just me.
Trust your judgment.
flan
Please. The tone was there. But you can sit there and infer entire things I did not say, while trying to say my inferring tone in something that was actually said is wrong.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I don't see how asking if any husbands cook is a hissy fit. It was a legitimate question.
I thought the same thing. But since everyone else seemed offended I figured it was just me.
My husband cooks, cleans, puts the toilet seat down and took care of his own child. So did my father. There are very few gendered roles in my life. If a job needs to be done, it gets done.
The question was legitimate. The delivery was a bit off. The response was definitely questionable.
I don't give a rip if you liked my response or not.
It had nothing to do with you at all.
So really, you have kept this going just as much as anyone else and it renders your admonishing of others hollow.
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We know you don't cook or clean or go to the store.
So Lexxy and jlbear - this wasn't a nasty comment to a what is a benign response to the question asked?
So, we know ohFour does not usually cook, that NJN is a SAH, some people work full time, some work part time. Some have families, some are just poster/SO and some are single. O4 was holding her own when she responded. And IDKWTD calling her a troll is not a nasty comment? Lily is clearly stirring the pot just as much and yet, no reprimand. That is a double standard especially if it is coming from you the moderator, not you the poster. It seem that the three of you were continuing in making this as contention as possible especially by bringing in comments about other posts.
Maybe her reputation does precede her, so what. Ignore her. Yet the three of you tend to stir the pot a little more instead of letting things settle. Especially with lily baiting Weltz.
At least, that is how it appears. And this is not the only thread that this has happened on.
I posted a definition of an internet troll, interestingly enough those wanting to defend Weltz immediately assumed it was about her (with good reason) but my point is you all felt similar or you wouldn't equate my internet definition with Welts' posts. And I haven't said anything, until now, about Weltz on this thread.
You are right. I assumed that you were talking about weltz considering the rest of the threads that you quoted were talking about her.
In general, I am tired of the attacks on this board and it does not matter who started it.
So, you talking about LGS when she isn't even a part of this discussion with the disclaimer, "I'm not trying to single anyone out" isn't an attack on her or baiting with that topic? It's just as much of one as anything else.
"There is a lot of posts that could be considered controversial and baiting. Some of the stuff that gets posted seems like it is posted for intentional baiting. LGS starts a lot of threads, some that are considered humorous and some serious. Out of 27 threads on the first page, 13 were started by LGS. I am not trying to single anyone out but the facts speak for themselves."
LGS certainly is part of this conversation. She is the one who commented first that weltz was stirring the pot. She's trying to stir the pot on the thread I started. You would think she would avoid me when she can clearly see who started the thread since she constantly CLAIMS she doens't want to talk to us. Go figure.
It is to be expected that any posted can and will comment on her posts. Whether that post be nice or snarky, people will post. Yet people seem so surprised when it happens.
There is a difference between posting and discussing the topic, and just coming in to snipe at people.
You may even vehemently disagree, but if you are still discussing the topic, that is different than making it personal. Gaga may make unpopular statements, but they are usually about the TOPIC unless and until someone else makes it personal.
-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Monday 21st of March 2016 08:07:44 PM
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I don't see how asking if any husbands cook is a hissy fit. It was a legitimate question.
I thought the same thing. But since everyone else seemed offended I figured it was just me.
Trust your judgment.
flan
Please. The tone was there. But you can sit there and infer entire things I did not say, while trying to say my inferring tone in something that was actually said is wrong.
NJN was not offended by welts' post and she spoke up.
"Tone" on a message board is often up for interpretation.