TOTALLY GEEKED!

huskerbb · Guru

In Defense Of Trump's Mean Tweet

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

He doesn't pander to the weak of society. If he doesn't think you are pulling your weight, he's going to tell you - man, woman, or whatever.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Quotes from the article:

The presence of striking women has played a key role in Trump’s relentless quest to boost his brand — in real estate, in entertainment and now in politics.

After she joined Donald Trump’s real estate business, Louise Sunshine struggled to maintain a steady weight while managing her new career alongside the busy schedules of three young children.

Trump must have noticed, Sunshine said. She recalled that he kept an unflattering photograph of her in a drawer — a “fat picture,” as she called it — that he would pull out when she did something he didn’t like.

Would YOU work for a boss who based your ACTIONS on your WEIGHT?

flan
I knew you would pull this out. Except you ignore the part where she laughs about it and calls it a great idea! You don't get to determine what someone else should be offended about when you weren't there.

Yes, at the very end...kind of like a postscript.

And actually I CAN be offended at a man who uses fat-shaming in business.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
LL,

You asked: So, what matters more - what you say or what you actually DO?

Do you honestly think that he insults women publicly, but actually respects them?

flan
He doesn't insult ALL women. Some of them don't deserve respect. Sorry, but just being a woman doesn't mean you get special treatment. Trump likes smart, capable women.

Only if they are also beautiful. He is not ashamed of feeling that way, either.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
LL,

You asked: So, what matters more - what you say or what you actually DO?

Do you honestly think that he insults women publicly, but actually respects them?

flan
He doesn't insult ALL women. Some of them don't deserve respect. Sorry, but just being a woman doesn't mean you get special treatment. Trump likes smart, capable women.
Only if they are also beautiful. He is not ashamed of feeling that way, either.
flan

Those women in that picture are average looking and they are still working for him over 20 years later.

cadiver · Senior Member

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Trump does need to learn not to say everything that pops into his head.

He's like the amazingly talented doctor with no bedside manner.
Except making himself filthy rich, what's his "talent?"
flan
What "talent" does Hilary have? She's mooched off of the government nearly her entire "career".

What about Sanders? He hasn't done anything meaningful in his entire life. He hasn't even been a good Senator. In 26 years in the Senate, there has not been ONE bill that he has sponsored that has passed.

Trump is FAR more talented than either of those two bozos. If you don't think it takes talent to make money--you are daft.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Sunday 27th of March 2016 09:42:05 AM

He been in the Senate 9 years and the House 16 years.

2014 Report card has that 3 bills he sponsored were enacted.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357/report-card/2014

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

cadiver wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Trump does need to learn not to say everything that pops into his head.

He's like the amazingly talented doctor with no bedside manner.
Except making himself filthy rich, what's his "talent?"
flan
What "talent" does Hilary have? She's mooched off of the government nearly her entire "career".

What about Sanders? He hasn't done anything meaningful in his entire life. He hasn't even been a good Senator. In 26 years in the Senate, there has not been ONE bill that he has sponsored that has passed.

Trump is FAR more talented than either of those two bozos. If you don't think it takes talent to make money--you are daft.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Sunday 27th of March 2016 09:42:05 AM
He been in the Senate 9 years and the House 16 years.

2014 Report card has that 3 bills he sponsored were enacted.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357/report-card/2014

How did I miss husker's dig at Sanders?

I must be slipping.

flan

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Me too, Flan. Thanks for the save, Cadiver.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

S. 885 (113th): A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the “Thaddeus Stevens Post Office”.

Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]

Introduced: May 7, 2013

Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 26, 2014

S. 2782 (113th): A bill to amend title 36, United States Code, to improve the Federal charter for the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, and for other purposes.

Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]

Introduced: Sep 9, 2014

Referred to Committee: Sep 9, 2014

Enacted As: H.R. 5441 (113th): To amend the Federal charter of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States to reflect the service of women in the Armed Forces of the United States.

S. 893 (113th): Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013

Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]

Introduced: May 8, 2013

Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 21, 2013

That's the three bills he got enacted in all those years.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Jobs created by Donald Trump.

U.S. +

How many jobs has Donald Trump actually created?

September 03

NEW YORK

Donald Trump vows that if he's elected president, he would "be the greatest jobs president that God ever created."

One of the main reasons Trump cites is that he's a businessman. He has already created jobs, he argues, so he'll do it on an even bigger scale as president.

So how many jobs has Trump created as a businessman?

U.S. +

How many jobs has Donald Trump actually created?

September 03

NEW YORK

Donald Trump vows that if he's elected president, he would "be the greatest jobs president that God ever created."

One of the main reasons Trump cites is that he's a businessman. He has already created jobs, he argues, so he'll do it on an even bigger scale as president.

So how many jobs has Trump created as a businessman?

A CNNMoney analysis calculates at least 34,000 jobs attributable to the Donald.

It's not the most straightforward calculation. His company, The Trump Organization, is private, so it does not have to disclose information publicly about how much money it makes or how many people it employs. His campaign didn't give a specific figure either.

CNNMoney turned to PrivCo, which researches and tracks privately-held companies.

According to PrivCo, the Trump Organization has 22,450 employees and brought in $9.5 billion in annual revenue last year.

Related: Donald Trump says tax the rich more

But that's not the whole picture. There are likely other jobs that might not exist without Trump. Economists call this the "multiplier effect."

New York's Broadway shows are a good example. Visitors who come to see shows, may stay at least a night or two at New York City hotels and spend money at restaurants and stores. So any analysis on the economic and job impact of Broadway takes into account more than just ticket sales and employment of actors, singers and stage hands.

The same holds true for Trump's resorts and hotels.

Consider Ricardo Ara, the 24-year-old who works in the Koi Soho restaurant in the Trump SoHo Hotel. His story made news last month because Ara is an illegal immigrant from Mexico who has the right to work at the restaurant in Trump's hotel because of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, a program Trump wants to end.

Ara is technically employed by the restaurant, not the Trump Organization, but his job probably wouldn't exist if the hotel weren't there.

The state of New York says that "leisure and hospitality" companies like Trump's typically have a 1.5 multiplier effect.

Using that multiplier, the Trump Organization is responsible for about 34,000 jobs.

Related: Everything you want to know about Donald Trump's bankruptcies

This is a rough estimate. There are arguments to be made that it should be higher or lower.

Trump has acquired some existing properties, so one could argue he didn't create those jobs. He has also filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy four times for some of his properties, mostly in Atlantic City.

The hotels were still able to operate in bankruptcy, but Trump Plaza in Atlantic City did close in 2014, costing about 1,000 jobs. By that time, Trump was no longer running the company, although he retained a small stake in it.

On the plus side for Trump, his name appears on many businesses he doesn't fully own, and he's been part of a successful television franchise with "The Apprentice" on NBC. It's possible to argue that he should get credit for some jobs in those ventures as well, even if they weren't part of the Trump Organization.

A more generous estimate would be to view the Trump Organization as a financial services or management company. Then the employment multiplier would be 3. That would bring jobs attributable to Trump to 67,000.

For comparison, a similar company Wynn Resorts (WYNN) has about 17,000 employees and $5.4 billion in revenue, and MGM Resorts (MGM)has 62,000 employees and took in $10 billion in revenue last year, according to FactSet.

Trump claims his personal wealth is $10 billion, although Bloombergcalculates it at $2.9 billion.

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flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Still not voting for Trump.

No way, no how.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

Luckily I don't think he'll need your vote.

cadiver · Senior Member

lilyofcourse wrote:
S. 885 (113th): A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the “Thaddeus Stevens Post Office”.
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: May 7, 2013
Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 26, 2014
S. 2782 (113th): A bill to amend title 36, United States Code, to improve the Federal charter for the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: Sep 9, 2014
Referred to Committee: Sep 9, 2014
Enacted As: H.R. 5441 (113th): To amend the Federal charter of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States to reflect the service of women in the Armed Forces of the United States.
S. 893 (113th): Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: May 8, 2013
Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 21, 2013

That's the three bills he got enacted in all those years.

Those are just for the 113th Congress.

7 bills matched your search for sponsor: Sanders, Bernard “Bernie” (Sen.) [I-VT]; Enacted — Including via Companion Bills: on.

S. 885 (113th): A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the “Thaddeus Stevens Post Office”.

Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]

Introduced: May 7, 2013

Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 26, 2014

S. 2782 (113th): A bill to amend title 36, United States Code, to improve the Federal charter for the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, and for other purposes.

Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]

Introduced: Sep 9, 2014

Referred to Committee: Sep 9, 2014

Enacted As: H.R. 5441 (113th): To amend the Federal charter of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States to reflect the service of women in the Armed Forces of the United States.

H.R. 5245 (109th): To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the “Matthew Lyon Post Office Building”.

Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]

Introduced: Apr 27, 2006

Enacted — Signed by the President: Aug 2, 2006

H.J.Res. 129 (104th): Granting the consent of Congress to the Vermont-New Hampshire Interstate Public Water Supply Compact.

Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]

Introduced: Nov 30, 1995

Passed House: Mar 19, 1996

Enacted As: S.J.Res. 38 (104th): A joint resolution granting the consent of Congress to the Vermont-New Hampshire Interstate Public Water Supply Compact.

S. 893 (113th): Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013

Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]

Introduced: May 8, 2013

Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 21, 2013

H.R. 1353 (102nd): Entitled the “Taconic Mountains Protection Act of 1991”.

Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]

Introduced: Mar 7, 1991

Referred to Committee: Mar 7, 1991

Enacted As: S. 483 (102nd): A bill entitled the “Taconic Mountains Protection Act of 1991”.

H.J.Res. 132 (102nd): To designate March 4, 1991, as “Vermont Bicentennial Day”.

Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]

Introduced: Feb 19, 1991

Referred to Committee: Feb 19, 1991

Enacted As: S.J.Res. 58 (102nd): A joint resolution to designate March 4, 1991, as “Vermont Bicentennial Day”.

The list does not include amendments or cosponsored bills where not the primary author.

by comparison, choose who you want.

Boehner 1991-2015 12 bills

Ryan 1999-2015 2 bills

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Didn't see those.

Thanks.

But looking at the content, other than a couple, they really don't do much.

cadiver · Senior Member

lilyofcourse wrote:
Didn't see those.

Thanks.

But looking at the content, other than a couple, they really don't do much.

I was surprised at the number of bills actually enacted each year. Anywhere from 300-1000, I hope most of them do nothing.

This session seems to be a push to name Post Offices. Out of the 150 or so bills enacted by the 113th Congress it looks like 50 were to rename a post office.

cadiver · Senior Member

Why is the author attacking Bush's wife:

Indeed Melania isn’t just a great beauty: she’s proven herself to be eloquent and willing to speak up about immigration, and she is the only non-dwarf (sorry Jeb) spouse to have gone through legal immigration, unless you count Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)

huskerbb · Guru

cadiver wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
S. 885 (113th): A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the “Thaddeus Stevens Post Office”.
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: May 7, 2013
Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 26, 2014
S. 2782 (113th): A bill to amend title 36, United States Code, to improve the Federal charter for the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: Sep 9, 2014
Referred to Committee: Sep 9, 2014
Enacted As: H.R. 5441 (113th): To amend the Federal charter of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States to reflect the service of women in the Armed Forces of the United States.
S. 893 (113th): Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: May 8, 2013
Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 21, 2013

That's the three bills he got enacted in all those years.
Those are just for the 113th Congress.
7 bills matched your search for sponsor: Sanders, Bernard “Bernie” (Sen.) [I-VT]; Enacted — Including via Companion Bills: on.
S. 885 (113th): A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the “Thaddeus Stevens Post Office”.
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: May 7, 2013
Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 26, 2014
S. 2782 (113th): A bill to amend title 36, United States Code, to improve the Federal charter for the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: Sep 9, 2014
Referred to Committee: Sep 9, 2014
Enacted As: H.R. 5441 (113th): To amend the Federal charter of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States to reflect the service of women in the Armed Forces of the United States.
H.R. 5245 (109th): To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the “Matthew Lyon Post Office Building”.
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: Apr 27, 2006
Enacted — Signed by the President: Aug 2, 2006
H.J.Res. 129 (104th): Granting the consent of Congress to the Vermont-New Hampshire Interstate Public Water Supply Compact.
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: Nov 30, 1995
Passed House: Mar 19, 1996
Enacted As: S.J.Res. 38 (104th): A joint resolution granting the consent of Congress to the Vermont-New Hampshire Interstate Public Water Supply Compact.
S. 893 (113th): Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: May 8, 2013
Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 21, 2013
H.R. 1353 (102nd): Entitled the “Taconic Mountains Protection Act of 1991”.
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: Mar 7, 1991
Referred to Committee: Mar 7, 1991
Enacted As: S. 483 (102nd): A bill entitled the “Taconic Mountains Protection Act of 1991”.
H.J.Res. 132 (102nd): To designate March 4, 1991, as “Vermont Bicentennial Day”.
Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: Feb 19, 1991
Referred to Committee: Feb 19, 1991
Enacted As: S.J.Res. 58 (102nd): A joint resolution to designate March 4, 1991, as “Vermont Bicentennial Day”.

The list does not include amendments or cosponsored bills where not the primary author.

by comparison, choose who you want.

Boehner 1991-2015 12 bills
Ryan 1999-2015 2 bills

Boehner and Ryan are worthless, too.

WYSIWYG · Guru

There are many jobs where a woman's looks are more important to the people that will be doing the hiring than any other attributes she could bring to the table, where a man going for the same job has little to no reliance on looks (other than being properly shaved, bathed, and attired for the job being sought). That's not hypocrisy, that's just the way the world is. Newscaster/reporter is one, "face of the company" is another, advertising is yet another, even something like being a waitress it comes into play whereas it wouldn't matter for a waiter. Is it fair? No. Is it how the world works? Yes.

And before anyone accuses this post of being anti-woman, women in positions to hire are equally as guilty of setting this standard as men are.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Well be honest, nobody wants Hatchet face representing their company to the public.

That might sound harsh, but you know it's true.

Tinydancer · Guru

People are hired on their looks all the time and not just women. It may be more prevalent for women but men are also judged on their looks. If you're good looking and qualified you'll go farther and faster than most.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Exactly.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I don't know where y'all work. I was hired for my experience, ability and skills.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Maybe you have pretty eyes.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Looks are part of hiring. I hire people for the School district. You have to come in looking your best. Pretty stupid if you don't. Yeah, doesn't mean you have to be a super model but you have to care enough to make a good presentation.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Maybe you have pretty eyes.

Look into my eyes...

biggrin

flan

huskerbb · Guru

WYSIWYG wrote:
There are many jobs where a woman's looks are more important to the people that will be doing the hiring than any other attributes she could bring to the table, where a man going for the same job has little to no reliance on looks (other than being properly shaved, bathed, and attired for the job being sought). That's not hypocrisy, that's just the way the world is. Newscaster/reporter is one, "face of the company" is another, advertising is yet another, even something like being a waitress it comes into play whereas it wouldn't matter for a waiter. Is it fair? No. Is it how the world works? Yes.

And before anyone accuses this post of being anti-woman, women in positions to hire are equally as guilty of setting this standard as men are.

Now, that isn't to say that these women aren't or can't be very good at their jobs--but take news reporters.

Again, how many of them are really trolls? None that I can think of. Most of the ones who aren't, in fact, drop dead gorgeous are older women who darn sure were when they were hired.

You can't tell me that for all the jobs on all the various news outlets there isn't ONE hideous looking woman that had GREAT qualifications and should have beaten out the "pretty women" for the job. NOT. A. SINGLE. ONE.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Looks are part of hiring. I hire people for the School district. You have to come in looking your best. Pretty stupid if you don't. Yeah, doesn't mean you have to be a super model but you have to care enough to make a good presentation.

Exactly. Clean & well-dressed.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

Ray Williams Ray Williams
Wired for Success
Good looks will get you that job, promotion and raise
Beautiful people have the advantage in the workplace
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Despite the sophisticated HR advances in hiring and compensation practices, it appears your appearance, and particularly good looks, still matter.

One expert, Catherine Hakim, a professor of sociology at the London School of Economics, and author of the book, Erotic Capital: The Power of Attraction in the Boardroom and the Bedroom even suggests that professional women should use their "erotic capital" - beauty, sex appeal, charm, dress sense, liveliness, and fitness - to get ahead at work. Hakim is an expert on women's employment and theories of female status in society.

According to Hakim, the ''beauty premium'' is an important economic factor in our careers, citing a U.S. survey that found good-looking lawyers earn between 10 and 12 per cent more than less good-looking colleagues. Moreover, she says, an attractive person is more likely to land a job in the first place, and then be promoted. "Meritocracies are supposed to champion intelligence, qualifications, and experience. But physical and social attractiveness deliver substantial benefits in all social interaction - making a person more persuasive, able to secure the co-operation of colleagues, attract customers and sell products," she writes in a column for a London newspaper (link is external).

Other research (link is external) has shown that individuals tend to find attractive people more intelligent, friendly and competent than less attractive people. A University of British Columbia study found that people identify the personality traits of people who are physically attractive more accurately than others during short encounters. The study conducted by Jeremy Biesanz, Lauren Human and Genevieve Lorenzo, showed a positive bias toward attractive people. "If people think Jane is beautiful, and she is very organized and somewhat generous, people will see her as more organized and generous than she really is," says Biesanz. The researchers say this is because people hare motivated to pay closer attention to beautiful people.

A second study by Duke University researchers John Graham, Campbell Harvey and Manju Puri found CEOs are more likely than non-CEOs to be rated as competent looking. The team found that CEOs rated competent just by their appearance tended to have higher incomes.

A Tufts University study by psychologists Nicholas Rule and Nalini Ambady found a random sample of people could rte the competence, dominance, likeability, maturity and trustworthiness just be examining the facial photographs of CEOs.

Finally, researchers Elaine Wong at the University of Wisconsin and her colleagues at The London Business School examined the faces of CEOs and determined that CEOs with wider faces had better performing companies than CEOs with narrow faces.

So it seems that physical appearance is a significant factor in the hiring, compensation, promotion, and competence of executives, as much as we would like to think it isn't.

Believe whatever you want but looks are very important in all aspects of your career.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Why, thank you for giving me permission to believe what I want.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

Was I specifically speaking to you? Awfully full of yourself flannie.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I'll type slowly:

This is a message board. ANYONE can respond to ANYTHING.

Get help for your obsession, maybe? Or go make dessert...

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

Right back at ya flannie.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Oh, SNAP!

The wit, it's blinding...

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
I'll type slowly:

This is a message board. ANYONE can respond to ANYTHING.

Get help for your obsession, maybe? Or go make dessert...

flan

Oh wait. Am I supposed to bring other stuff into the conversation. Should I bring up your adultery every chance I get? Or maybe bring your family into it like you do?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I'm not a robot. I do have a past and a family.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

I'm not a robot either. I have a husband and make him dessert. Still better than being an adulterist so don't bring up crap for no reason and I'll do the same.

Tinydancer · Guru

You give lame insults by the way. What next? Do you call me a poopy head?