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Tinydancer · Guru

S/O on abortion thread

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
There is absolutely no reason that I would abort a child.
Isn't it great that you could make that decision FOR YOU, and I can make a different decision FOR ME?

You have spoken of your disabled son before. Would you have aborted him if you had known of the problems he has?

weltschmerz · Guru

Nope. He's high-functioning autistic, but I don't really consider him disabled.
He's doing very well now.

weltschmerz · Guru

So, one more time with feeling....isn't it great we could make the choices that are right for us?

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
So, one more time with feeling....isn't it great we could make the choices that are right for us?

Sure, if you are selfish and soulless, I guess it is great. Thankfully, there are people that don't embrace murdering their children.

FNW · Guru

The most my doctor would put in were 2.

Tinydancer · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
So, one more time with feeling....isn't it great we could make the choices that are right for us?

Just can't admit what those choices really are though can you. Have a baby (even if put up for adoption) or kill it. Is there a third choice that I haven't heard of?

weltschmerz · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
So, one more time with feeling....isn't it great we could make the choices that are right for us?
Just can't admit what those choices really are though can you. Have a baby (even if put up for adoption) or kill it. Is there a third choice that I haven't heard of?

I have no idea what you're babbling about.

Every woman should have the choice that's right FOR HER.

Tangerine · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
So, one more time with feeling....isn't it great we could make the choices that are right for us?
Sure, if you are selfish and soulless, I guess it is great. Thankfully, there are people that don't embrace murdering their children.

So you are saying that I am soulless and I murdered my child?

i suppose you are entitled to think whatever you wish. Please keep in mind that it is possible that you are wrong.

Thank god you don't get to decide what others do with their bodies.

Tinydancer · Guru

That didn't answer the question. What are those choices you think are ok for a woman to make? Is it have the baby or kill it or is there some other choice? You're all worried about animals being killed but killing humans seems to be alright with you.

Ohfour · Hooker

Tangerine wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
So, one more time with feeling....isn't it great we could make the choices that are right for us?
Sure, if you are selfish and soulless, I guess it is great. Thankfully, there are people that don't embrace murdering their children.
So you are saying that I am soulless and I murdered my child?
i suppose you are entitled to think whatever you wish. Please keep in mind that it is possible that you are wrong.
Thank god you don't get to decide what others do with their bodies.

In your situation, I would not have chosen your path, but I can understand your decision, even though I disagree.

Welts has said she would gladly assist in a late term abortion just because a woman decided she didnt want to have a child after all.

That is soulless...

weltschmerz · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
That didn't answer the question. What are those choices you think are ok for a woman to make? Is it have the baby or kill it or is there some other choice? You're all worried about animals being killed but killing humans seems to be alright with you.

I feel that humans should have control over their own lives and deaths, and not leave it up to some church.

Yes, a woman should have the choice to carry to term, to keep it, to give it up for adoption, to hand it over at a police station or to abort it.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Domestic Engineer wrote:
We were told by the NICU nurses that the majority of marriages of special needs children end in divorce. We were determined not to let that happen. Raising DS was challenging, I'd hate to think I had to do it day-to-day without DH.
Unfortunately, this is a very true statistic. A huge amount of them end in divorce. Having a special needs child puts a strain on a marriage no one but another couple with a special needs child can understand.
That is true. And, a good point. Very hard to do alone, no question.

flan is right. The siblings are affected too. My DH and I don't think about college for our son. We think about who will care for him when we die. He will never live on his own. It does put stress on our marriage because we know we'll never be at the point where we can just pick up and take off on vacation. We'll always have to have someone to watch our son. And truly, no one wants that job. If you want to see who your true friends are have a special needs child. You will learn quickly.

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Tangerine wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
So, one more time with feeling....isn't it great we could make the choices that are right for us?
Sure, if you are selfish and soulless, I guess it is great. Thankfully, there are people that don't embrace murdering their children.
So you are saying that I am soulless and I murdered my child?
i suppose you are entitled to think whatever you wish. Please keep in mind that it is possible that you are wrong.
Thank god you don't get to decide what others do with their bodies.
In your situation, I would not have chosen your path, but I can understand your decision, even though I disagree.
Welts has said she would gladly assist in a late term abortion just because a woman decided she didnt want to have a child after all.
That is soulless...

I said that?? Where did I say that?

Proof, please. You just LOVE to make crap up, don't you?

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 27th of March 2016 03:15:54 PM

weltschmerz · Guru

Tangerine wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
So, one more time with feeling....isn't it great we could make the choices that are right for us?
Sure, if you are selfish and soulless, I guess it is great. Thankfully, there are people that don't embrace murdering their children.
So you are saying that I am soulless and I murdered my child?
i suppose you are entitled to think whatever you wish. Please keep in mind that it is possible that you are wrong.
Thank god you don't get to decide what others do with their bodies.

You're clearly soulless, angry and bitter, because you did what was right FOR YOU.

You didn't know?

Tinydancer · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
That didn't answer the question. What are those choices you think are ok for a woman to make? Is it have the baby or kill it or is there some other choice? You're all worried about animals being killed but killing humans seems to be alright with you.
I feel that humans should have control over their own lives and deaths, and not leave it up to some church.
Yes, a woman should have the choice to carry to term, to keep it, to give it up for adoption, to hand it over at a police station or to abort it.

Just can't answer that question can you? What specifically are a woman's choices?

weltschmerz · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
That didn't answer the question. What are those choices you think are ok for a woman to make? Is it have the baby or kill it or is there some other choice? You're all worried about animals being killed but killing humans seems to be alright with you.
I feel that humans should have control over their own lives and deaths, and not leave it up to some church.
Yes, a woman should have the choice to carry to term, to keep it, to give it up for adoption, to hand it over at a police station or to abort it.
Just can't answer that question can you? What specifically are a woman's choices?

I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you blind?

I just gave you a bunch of choices. You even quoted them.

Tinydancer · Guru

No. What I said was there were only two choices. Give birth or kill it. My question was what do you call the second option to make it ok in your mind.

weltschmerz · Guru

"My body, my choice" makes it OK.
Besides, all those innocent little baby souls will float heavenward straight into the loving arms of Jesus.
Problem?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

So murder is fine with you? Oh ok.

weltschmerz · Guru

Abortion isn't murder. Pity you don't know the difference.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Abortion isn't murder?

Are you insane?

Oh. Wait. Nevermind.

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Abortion isn't murder?

Are you insane?

Oh. Wait. Nevermind.

Are you calling me insane? Looking for a vacation?

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
Abortion isn't murder. Pity you don't know the difference.

Except when it is. Some abortions are indeed considered murder. Just a couple of months ago, a woman was charged with murder because she tried to self abort.

So, sometimes, yes, it IS murder.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Abortion isn't murder?

Are you insane?

Oh. Wait. Nevermind.
Are you calling me insane? Looking for a vacation?

Aww....

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tangerine wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
So, one more time with feeling....isn't it great we could make the choices that are right for us?
Sure, if you are selfish and soulless, I guess it is great. Thankfully, there are people that don't embrace murdering their children.
So you are saying that I am soulless and I murdered my child?
i suppose you are entitled to think whatever you wish. Please keep in mind that it is possible that you are wrong.
Thank god you don't get to decide what others do with their bodies.

But they think they have the RIGHT to decide.

They don't.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Abortion isn't murder?

Are you insane?

Oh. Wait. Nevermind.
Are you calling me insane? Looking for a vacation?

She needs one BADLY.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Tangerine wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
So, one more time with feeling....isn't it great we could make the choices that are right for us?
Sure, if you are selfish and soulless, I guess it is great. Thankfully, there are people that don't embrace murdering their children.
So you are saying that I am soulless and I murdered my child?
i suppose you are entitled to think whatever you wish. Please keep in mind that it is possible that you are wrong.
Thank god you don't get to decide what others do with their bodies.
But they think they have the RIGHT to decide.
They don't.
flan

Of course we do...to an extent. There are restrictions. Abortion isnt a free for all. If it truly was up.yo the mother, there would be no restrictions. And those are getting tighter every day....

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

You THINK you do.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
You THINK you do.

flan

So, the FACT that restrictions are tightening doesnt mean that the pro life people are succeeding? How do you function?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You are killing another Body so no it ain't YOUR body.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
You THINK you do.

flan
So, the FACT that restrictions are tightening doesnt mean that the pro life people are succeeding? How do you function?

There are bad laws made all the time.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
You THINK you do.

flan
So, the FACT that restrictions are tightening doesnt mean that the pro life people are succeeding? How do you function?
There are bad laws made all the time.
flan

Um, thats not the point. But nice deflection!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
You THINK you do.

flan
So, the FACT that restrictions are tightening doesnt mean that the pro life people are succeeding? How do you function?
There are bad laws made all the time.
flan
Um, thats not the point. But nice deflection!

Um, that is EXACTLY the point. NO ONE has the right to make the choice for another woman.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
You THINK you do.

flan
So, the FACT that restrictions are tightening doesnt mean that the pro life people are succeeding? How do you function?
There are bad laws made all the time.
flan
Um, thats not the point. But nice deflection!
Um, that is EXACTLY the point. NO ONE has the right to make the choice for another woman.
flan

Well, it sure looks like they do! "Bad" laws not withstanding, thats exactly why abortion laws are on the books. Society as a whole has a responsibility to protect the most vulnerable...unfortunately, from their own "mothers".

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Pretty sad society where women choose to kill their own babies. You cant get any lower than that.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Pretty sad society where women choose to kill their own babies. You cant get any lower than that.

I know you feel strongly about this issue.

flan

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Pretty sad society where women choose to kill their own babies. You cant get any lower than that.

Pretty sad society where women are forced to give birth by the sanctimonious, who then pi$$ and moan about giving the family welfare to put a roof over their heads, keeping them clothed and giving them free hot school lunches.

The whining never stops.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

That same line?

It's old.

Take birth control seriously and then we'll talk.

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
That same line?

It's old.

Take birth control seriously and then we'll talk.

YOU raise the unwanted baby and then we'll talk.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
That same line?

It's old.

Take birth control seriously and then we'll talk.

YOU raise the unwanted baby and then we'll talk.

People do it everyday.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Don't get pregnant.

Pregnancy is 100% preventable.

weltschmerz · Guru

And yes, that same old line.
The right howls about the precious, precious life in utero, but doesn't give a crap what happens to it after it's born.
"Your child is hungry? Too bad, so sad, should have kept your legs closed!"

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
That same line?

It's old.

Take birth control seriously and then we'll talk.

YOU raise the unwanted baby and then we'll talk.

There are no unwanted babies. And while I dont raise them, i am very instrumental in placing children in loving homes.

Oh, and there ARE posters here that have adopted and are raising children...

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
And yes, that same old line.
The right howls about the precious, precious life in utero, but doesn't give a crap what happens to it after it's born.
"Your child is hungry? Too bad, so sad, should have kept your legs closed!"

Wrong again.......

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
And yes, that same old line.
The right howls about the precious, precious life in utero, but doesn't give a crap what happens to it after it's born.
"Your child is hungry? Too bad, so sad, should have kept your legs closed!"
Wrong again.......

yeah - that's the most ridiculous thing. NOBODY has ever said to let a child go hungry.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
And yes, that same old line.
The right howls about the precious, precious life in utero, but doesn't give a crap what happens to it after it's born.
"Your child is hungry? Too bad, so sad, should have kept your legs closed!"

Yep! You got it!

Grow up.

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Don't get pregnant.

Pregnancy is 100% preventable.

But people DO get pregnant. And they always will.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
That same line?

It's old.

Take birth control seriously and then we'll talk.

YOU raise the unwanted baby and then we'll talk.
There are no unwanted babies. And while I dont raise them, i am very instrumental in placing children in loving homes.
Oh, and there ARE posters here that have adopted and are raising children...

You really do live in a fantasy world.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

The kid isn't going to go hungry.

Old argument.

But you want to have sex? Use birth control.

Get pregnant? Be responsible for the life you are carrying.