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jlbear71 wrote:
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MILITARY COMPENSATION: ARMY BENEFITS

IT’S MORE THAN JUST A SALARY

The Congressional Budget Office recently estimated that the average active duty







service member receives an Army benefits and pay compensation package worth $99,000. Noncash compensation represents almost 60 percent of this package. Noncash compensation includes health care, retirement pay, child care and free or subsidized food, housing and education. Coupled with regular cash compensation, this adds up to attractive military compensation for Soldiers.


 That is simply a foolish post.  If they don't put in their 20 years--then they get ZERO retirement.  There are many other factors that go into some of the benefits, as well--especially the GI bill. 

 

 


Gosh. Silly me. Do they also have to put in twenty years to get food and housing and health care and education and daycare?

Take it up with the US Army. I got it from their site.

 

The Congressional Budget Office recently estimated that the average active duty

X
Active Duty is similar to working at a full-time civilian job.
 
 

service member receives an Army benefits and pay compensation package worth $99,000. Noncash compensation represents almost 60 percent of this package. Noncash compensation includes health care, retirement pay, child care and free or subsidized food, housing and education. Coupled with regular cash compensation, this a

 


 Yes, silly you.  Most servicemen do not get all those benefits.  

Unless you put in 20 years, the retirement is zero.

College help has many restrictions, so many do not get that.

They don't all get child care or food. 

 


 I'm going to have agree that the benefits don't always include retirement and college tuition, it depends on your contract. 

However, every person in the military is entitled to free food and housing- provided that they choose to eat in the mess hall and live in the barracks. 


 Which many do not do, especially if they have families.


That is very true, but that is a choice they have made to forgo a benefit.  


 They do not forgo a benefit.  Military member who choose (for whatever reason) to not live in the barracks receive BAH.

Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH)

The Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH) is a U.S. based allowance prescribed by geographic duty location, pay grade, and dependency status. It provides uniformed Service members equitable housing compensation based on housing costs in local civilian housing markets within the United States when government quarters are not provided. A uniformed service member stationed outside the U.S., including U.S. territories and possessions, not furnished government housing, is eligible for Overseas Housing Allowance (OHA).

BAH Rates

For a complete listing of BAH rates, see BAH Rates for All Locations. Service members can calculate their individual BAH rates using the BAH Calculator.

Beginning with the 2012 BAH rates, the Department is publishing the average percentage breakdown between rent, utilities and renters insurance for each Military Housing Area. This additional information will assist Service members with making informed housing choices when relocating to a new area.

BAH Component Breakdown for All Locations


 Yes. But depending on where you are stationed that may not go far. You will end up spending more most of the time. 

Enlisted soldiers with dependants living off post usually qualify for food stamps. The allowence doesn't cover nearly enough. 

 



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My point is that the success of a business used to trickle down to the employees. Now, it doesn't. McD's has made bazillions. So have a lot of other companies, yet they make no effort to better the lot of their employees. It used to be that upper management was paid well, but now the difference between upper management and the workers is astronomical.

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What will happen is that they will hire less people and use more computers to take orders and money. The McDonalds here has one and I expect others as well. Pretty soon you would not have a hard working teenager trying to earn money for a car, dates, or college but will be replaced by a computer. Fast food joints are not design to be a career but more like a high school, college kid jobs. The companies will not lose money.

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My point is that the success of a business used to trickle down to the employees. Now, it doesn't. McD's has made bazillions. So have a lot of other companies, yet they make no effort to better the lot of their employees. It used to be that upper management was paid well, but now the difference between upper management and the workers is astronomical.


  I do agree the managers should be paid well.



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What will happen is that they will hire less people and use more computers to take orders and money. The McDonalds here has one and I expect others as well. Pretty soon you would not have a hard working teenager trying to earn money for a car, dates, or college but will be replaced by a computer. Fast food joints are not design to be a career but more like a high school, college kid jobs. The companies will not lose money.


 Yep.  You've gotten rid of teenager jobs and some senior jobs as well.  Paying that much money, businesses are going to want better, more experienced people, and seniors who were trying to supplement their SS income won't be able to work enough hours to be worthwhile to keep if they want to keep their annual income under $15K.



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jlbear71 wrote:
Tangerine wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tangerine wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:

MILITARY COMPENSATION: ARMY BENEFITS

IT’S MORE THAN JUST A SALARY

The Congressional Budget Office recently estimated that the average active duty







service member receives an Army benefits and pay compensation package worth $99,000. Noncash compensation represents almost 60 percent of this package. Noncash compensation includes health care, retirement pay, child care and free or subsidized food, housing and education. Coupled with regular cash compensation, this adds up to attractive military compensation for Soldiers.


 That is simply a foolish post.  If they don't put in their 20 years--then they get ZERO retirement.  There are many other factors that go into some of the benefits, as well--especially the GI bill. 

 

 


Gosh. Silly me. Do they also have to put in twenty years to get food and housing and health care and education and daycare?

Take it up with the US Army. I got it from their site.

 

The Congressional Budget Office recently estimated that the average active duty

X
Active Duty is similar to working at a full-time civilian job.
 
 

service member receives an Army benefits and pay compensation package worth $99,000. Noncash compensation represents almost 60 percent of this package. Noncash compensation includes health care, retirement pay, child care and free or subsidized food, housing and education. Coupled with regular cash compensation, this a

 


 Yes, silly you.  Most servicemen do not get all those benefits.  

Unless you put in 20 years, the retirement is zero.

College help has many restrictions, so many do not get that.

They don't all get child care or food. 

 


 I'm going to have agree that the benefits don't always include retirement and college tuition, it depends on your contract. 

However, every person in the military is entitled to free food and housing- provided that they choose to eat in the mess hall and live in the barracks. 


 Which many do not do, especially if they have families.


That is very true, but that is a choice they have made to forgo a benefit.  


 They do not forgo a benefit.  Military member who choose (for whatever reason) to not live in the barracks receive BAH.

Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH)

The Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH) is a U.S. based allowance prescribed by geographic duty location, pay grade, and dependency status. It provides uniformed Service members equitable housing compensation based on housing costs in local civilian housing markets within the United States when government quarters are not provided. A uniformed service member stationed outside the U.S., including U.S. territories and possessions, not furnished government housing, is eligible for Overseas Housing Allowance (OHA).

BAH Rates

For a complete listing of BAH rates, see BAH Rates for All Locations. Service members can calculate their individual BAH rates using the BAH Calculator.

Beginning with the 2012 BAH rates, the Department is publishing the average percentage breakdown between rent, utilities and renters insurance for each Military Housing Area. This additional information will assist Service members with making informed housing choices when relocating to a new area.

BAH Component Breakdown for All Locations


 They don't get free meals.  



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