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lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

RE: This wont get ugly: Trump and Abortion

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Tignanello wrote:
your body is your responsibility. You have the sole right and responsibility to care for it, make decisions about your life, and understand any repercussions or consequences were your own to bear

If this is true, why are we fighting about laws? Shouldn't laws be kept out of it and individuals be free to make their own decisions about their own life? (my views on abortion aside - curious about how supporting or fighing for laws = sole right and responsibility)

Just curious what your drag queen obsession is? You used to have a Tigger avatar.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

lilyofcourse wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
your body is your responsibility. You have the sole right and responsibility to care for it, make decisions about your life, and understand any repercussions or consequences were your own to bear

If this is true, why are we fighting about laws? Shouldn't laws be kept out of it and individuals be free to make their own decisions about their own life? (my views on abortion aside - curious about how supporting or fighing for laws = sole right and responsibility)
Tig once you introduce a baby into your body it is no longer just "your" body it is your baby's body as well. Just because having a baby may be inconvenient for you (collective you) does not justify killing another human.
True - but others have other views. By making a law that women cannot choose abortion are we not taking away their 'sole right and responsibility'?
No. If a person is truly self responsible, then they will take the steps prevent pregnancy.
So, by that logic, if they do not prevent pregnancy they lose their rights and responsibilities and the ability to make decisions about their lives?
And by your logic, a woman is only responsible for her body when she is choosing to kill her unborn child.

Well, no. I've not said that. It's an inflammatory and reductive response. I'm saying that by placing laws on abortion the idea that a has 'sole rights' is invalid. If there is a law, then she can't make her own choice. I'm just wondering how belief in 'sole choice' and wanting laws that govern/prevent choice can be symbiotic.

-- Edited by Tignanello on Friday 31st of January 2020 09:43:57 PM

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
your body is your responsibility. You have the sole right and responsibility to care for it, make decisions about your life, and understand any repercussions or consequences were your own to bear

If this is true, why are we fighting about laws? Shouldn't laws be kept out of it and individuals be free to make their own decisions about their own life? (my views on abortion aside - curious about how supporting or fighing for laws = sole right and responsibility)
Tig once you introduce a baby into your body it is no longer just "your" body it is your baby's body as well. Just because having a baby may be inconvenient for you (collective you) does not justify killing another human.
True - but others have other views. By making a law that women cannot choose abortion are we not taking away their 'sole right and responsibility'?
No. If a person is truly self responsible, then they will take the steps prevent pregnancy.
So, by that logic, if they do not prevent pregnancy they lose their rights and responsibilities and the ability to make decisions about their lives?
And by your logic, a woman is only responsible for her body when she is choosing to kill her unborn child.

*accidental double post*

-- Edited by Tignanello on Friday 31st of January 2020 09:43:09 PM

Lindley · Guru

Fort Worth Mom wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
your body is your responsibility. You have the sole right and responsibility to care for it, make decisions about your life, and understand any repercussions or consequences were your own to bear

If this is true, why are we fighting about laws? Shouldn't laws be kept out of it and individuals be free to make their own decisions about their own life? (my views on abortion aside - curious about how supporting or fighing for laws = sole right and responsibility)
Who is going to speak, for the unborn children?
They have no voice.
They need laws, to protect them.
JMHO.

I don’t care what a woman does with her body, but a baby isn’t her body, a baby is a unique individuality from his/her mother and like fwm said they need a voice and laws to protect them.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

A woman has every right in the world to control her own body, but once a child is conceived, it is no longer just her body - it is the baby's body as well. Abortion is a woman's choice to cut up, kill and dispose of the body of the baby. It's not the woman's body that ends up in the trash can.