TOTALLY GEEKED!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Men Only’ Barbershop Must Serve Transgender Man

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Yeah - I don't think they can turn away women, or even women that think they are men. They can CATER to men, they can't ban women.

Tinydancer · Guru

Why would you turn away a paying customer? Cutting someones hair is not promoting (unlike baking a cake for a same sex wedding) anything but haircuts.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
Yeah - I don't think they can turn away women, or even women that think they are men. They can CATER to men, they can't ban women.

But...but...but...

"You all know how distracting a woman can be and who wants a straight razor shave with a buxom blonde in the joint?”

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

It's a private business.

Stay out of it.

I will never understand why anyone thinks they can tell a business owner how to run their business.

As long as they meet the health and safety guidelines, let the business succeed or fail on its own.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
It's a private business.

Stay out of it.

I will never understand why anyone thinks they can tell a business owner how to run their business.

As long as they meet the health and safety guidelines, let the business succeed or fail on its own.

It's called discrimination, Lily. You can't discriminate against people because of their sex. This business is discriminating against a SEX.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
It's a private business.

Stay out of it.

I will never understand why anyone thinks they can tell a business owner how to run their business.

As long as they meet the health and safety guidelines, let the business succeed or fail on its own.

It's called discrimination, Lily. You can't discriminate against people because of their sex. This business is discriminating against a SEX.

Yeah, ok.

And NO ONE had a problem with that until this one man wannabe was turned away.

Let the business succeed or fail on its own.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
It's a private business.

Stay out of it.

I will never understand why anyone thinks they can tell a business owner how to run their business.

As long as they meet the health and safety guidelines, let the business succeed or fail on its own.

It's called discrimination, Lily. You can't discriminate against people because of their sex. This business is discriminating against a SEX.
Yeah, ok.
And NO ONE had a problem with that until this one man wannabe was turned away.
Let the business succeed or fail on its own.

And if a woman walked in there and wanted a haircut? Barbershops are notoriously cheaper than hair salons. Why shouldn't a woman be able to go?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
It's a private business.

Stay out of it.

I will never understand why anyone thinks they can tell a business owner how to run their business.

As long as they meet the health and safety guidelines, let the business succeed or fail on its own.

It's called discrimination, Lily. You can't discriminate against people because of their sex. This business is discriminating against a SEX.
Yeah, ok.
And NO ONE had a problem with that until this one man wannabe was turned away.
Let the business succeed or fail on its own.

And if a woman walked in there and wanted a haircut? Barbershops are notoriously cheaper than hair salons. Why shouldn't a woman be able to go?

It's cheaper because we pay more without questions.

So what if a woman went in? They would refuse her service.

She could go somewhere else.

If we make exceptions for one, we must make exceptions for all.

If we don't allow private business to set it's own policies, we end up with government telling the Christian baker or clergy they must go against their beliefs.

Let the business succeed or fail on its own.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
It's a private business.

Stay out of it.

I will never understand why anyone thinks they can tell a business owner how to run their business.

As long as they meet the health and safety guidelines, let the business succeed or fail on its own.

It's called discrimination, Lily. You can't discriminate against people because of their sex. This business is discriminating against a SEX.
Yeah, ok.
And NO ONE had a problem with that until this one man wannabe was turned away.
Let the business succeed or fail on its own.

And if a woman walked in there and wanted a haircut? Barbershops are notoriously cheaper than hair salons. Why shouldn't a woman be able to go?
It's cheaper because we pay more without questions.
So what if a woman went in? They would refuse her service.
She could go somewhere else.
If we make exceptions for one, we must make exceptions for all.
If we don't allow private business to set it's own policies, we end up with government telling the Christian baker or clergy they must go against their beliefs.
Let the business succeed or fail on its own.

That is AGAINST THE LAW. It is a law, Lily. LAW, LAW, LAW.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I wonder if it's a law?

flan

huskerbb · Guru

Ok, but this is silly.

They want the right to be "women" when it's convenient--bathrooms, locker rooms, etc...

But now want to be a man???

That's fvcking stupid. It's one or the other.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
It's a private business.

Stay out of it.

I will never understand why anyone thinks they can tell a business owner how to run their business.

As long as they meet the health and safety guidelines, let the business succeed or fail on its own.

It's called discrimination, Lily. You can't discriminate against people because of their sex. This business is discriminating against a SEX.
Yeah, ok.
And NO ONE had a problem with that until this one man wannabe was turned away.
Let the business succeed or fail on its own.

And if a woman walked in there and wanted a haircut? Barbershops are notoriously cheaper than hair salons. Why shouldn't a woman be able to go?
It's cheaper because we pay more without questions.
So what if a woman went in? They would refuse her service.
She could go somewhere else.
If we make exceptions for one, we must make exceptions for all.
If we don't allow private business to set it's own policies, we end up with government telling the Christian baker or clergy they must go against their beliefs.
Let the business succeed or fail on its own.
That is AGAINST THE LAW. It is a law, Lily. LAW, LAW, LAW.

I realize it is a law.

I'm saying maybe it shouldn't be.

Or there should be exceptions.

In cases like this.

Men's only barbershop.

Heck, my pawpaw owned a barbershop for most of my life. If he had a customer, I wasn't allowed in there.

That's just the way it was.

Maybe that's why I don't see the big deal.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Times change.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Yep.

And thas why we have men using women's bathrooms and locker rooms and people being sued for following their beliefs.

It's a ripple effect.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Yep.

And thas why we have men using women's bathrooms and locker rooms and people being sued for following their beliefs.

It's a ripple effect.

No, Lily. It is not the same. You can't refuse service to people simply because of who they are - this is America.

You can't refuse to serve someone just because they are black, or just because they are gay, or just because they are a woman. If you want to live in a country that says it's ok to discriminate against women - I understand ISIS is always hiring.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

So you are saying it's ok to force the Christian baker to make the cake for a gay wedding when it is against their beliefs?

And the bill to protect churches and clergy from being forced to perform gay ceremonies was not necessary, although you just said it isn't right to discriminate.

We ALL discriminate.

The gay person, the handicap person, the welfare person, the rich person, the skinny, fat, black, white or any other person.

It's a PRIVATE business.

Let them succeed or fail on their own.

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
So you are saying it's ok to force the Christian baker to make the cake for a gay wedding when it is against their beliefs?

And the bill to protect churches and clergy from being forced to perform gay ceremonies was not necessary, although you just said it isn't right to discriminate.

We ALL discriminate.

The gay person, the handicap person, the welfare person, the rich person, the skinny, fat, black, white or any other person.

It's a PRIVATE business.

Let them succeed or fail on their own.

Churches were ALWAYS allowed to discriminate. My church wouldn't marry me to my Jewish husband, and that's OK. I get it.

Catholic churches wouldn't be forced to marry a divorced Buddhist to a Scientologist.

That being said....nobody is going to force churches to perform gay ceremonies, just like churches refuse to marry people of conflicting faiths.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
So you are saying it's ok to force the Christian baker to make the cake for a gay wedding when it is against their beliefs?

And the bill to protect churches and clergy from being forced to perform gay ceremonies was not necessary, although you just said it isn't right to discriminate.

We ALL discriminate.

The gay person, the handicap person, the welfare person, the rich person, the skinny, fat, black, white or any other person.

It's a PRIVATE business.

Let them succeed or fail on their own.

No. But see, here you are being part of the problem, because you don't understand the fundamental difference between discriminating against a person and refusing to take part in an event. This is not about this person being transgender - your prejudices are blinding you to that fact. They refused service because the person was a woman - it doesn't matter what clothes she was wearing.

While a Christian baker should be able to refuse to bake a cake and deliver it to an EVENT against their beliefs - they should not be able to refuse to bake a birthday cake for someone because they are gay.

And a waitress shouldn't be able to refuse to serve someone because they are black, and a barber should not be able to refuse someone because they are female.

cadiver · Senior Member

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So you are saying it's ok to force the Christian baker to make the cake for a gay wedding when it is against their beliefs?

And the bill to protect churches and clergy from being forced to perform gay ceremonies was not necessary, although you just said it isn't right to discriminate.

We ALL discriminate.

The gay person, the handicap person, the welfare person, the rich person, the skinny, fat, black, white or any other person.

It's a PRIVATE business.

Let them succeed or fail on their own.
No. But see, here you are being part of the problem, because you don't understand the fundamental difference between discriminating against a person and refusing to take part in an event. This is not about this person being transgender - your prejudices are blinding you to that fact. They refused service because the person was a woman - it doesn't matter what clothes she was wearing.

While a Christian baker should be able to refuse to bake a cake and deliver it to an EVENT against their beliefs - they should not be able to refuse to bake a birthday cake for someone because they are gay.
And a waitress shouldn't be able to refuse to serve someone because they are black, and a barber should not be able to refuse someone because they are female.

What if the barber is claiming it's because of his religion, as in this case?

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/03/09/army-reservist-refused-service-at-rancho-cucamonga-barber-shop-claims-gender-discrimination/

or the baker is simply baking the cake and not delivering it?

weltschmerz · Guru

cadiver wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So you are saying it's ok to force the Christian baker to make the cake for a gay wedding when it is against their beliefs?

And the bill to protect churches and clergy from being forced to perform gay ceremonies was not necessary, although you just said it isn't right to discriminate.

We ALL discriminate.

The gay person, the handicap person, the welfare person, the rich person, the skinny, fat, black, white or any other person.

It's a PRIVATE business.

Let them succeed or fail on their own.
No. But see, here you are being part of the problem, because you don't understand the fundamental difference between discriminating against a person and refusing to take part in an event. This is not about this person being transgender - your prejudices are blinding you to that fact. They refused service because the person was a woman - it doesn't matter what clothes she was wearing.

While a Christian baker should be able to refuse to bake a cake and deliver it to an EVENT against their beliefs - they should not be able to refuse to bake a birthday cake for someone because they are gay.
And a waitress shouldn't be able to refuse to serve someone because they are black, and a barber should not be able to refuse someone because they are female.
What if the barber is claiming it's because of his religion, as in this case?

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/03/09/army-reservist-refused-service-at-rancho-cucamonga-barber-shop-claims-gender-discrimination/

or the baker is simply baking the cake and not delivering it?

What about it? It was wrong.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So you are saying it's ok to force the Christian baker to make the cake for a gay wedding when it is against their beliefs?

And the bill to protect churches and clergy from being forced to perform gay ceremonies was not necessary, although you just said it isn't right to discriminate.

We ALL discriminate.

The gay person, the handicap person, the welfare person, the rich person, the skinny, fat, black, white or any other person.

It's a PRIVATE business.

Let them succeed or fail on their own.
No. But see, here you are being part of the problem, because you don't understand the fundamental difference between discriminating against a person and refusing to take part in an event. This is not about this person being transgender - your prejudices are blinding you to that fact. They refused service because the person was a woman - it doesn't matter what clothes she was wearing.

While a Christian baker should be able to refuse to bake a cake and deliver it to an EVENT against their beliefs - they should not be able to refuse to bake a birthday cake for someone because they are gay.
And a waitress shouldn't be able to refuse to serve someone because they are black, and a barber should not be able to refuse someone because they are female.

The freak isn't female. I don't think they should refuse service--but then it shouldn't be allowed to use the women's restroom, either.

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So you are saying it's ok to force the Christian baker to make the cake for a gay wedding when it is against their beliefs?

And the bill to protect churches and clergy from being forced to perform gay ceremonies was not necessary, although you just said it isn't right to discriminate.

We ALL discriminate.

The gay person, the handicap person, the welfare person, the rich person, the skinny, fat, black, white or any other person.

It's a PRIVATE business.

Let them succeed or fail on their own.
No. But see, here you are being part of the problem, because you don't understand the fundamental difference between discriminating against a person and refusing to take part in an event. This is not about this person being transgender - your prejudices are blinding you to that fact. They refused service because the person was a woman - it doesn't matter what clothes she was wearing.

While a Christian baker should be able to refuse to bake a cake and deliver it to an EVENT against their beliefs - they should not be able to refuse to bake a birthday cake for someone because they are gay.
And a waitress shouldn't be able to refuse to serve someone because they are black, and a barber should not be able to refuse someone because they are female.
The freak isn't female. I don't think they should refuse service--but then it shouldn't be allowed to use the women's restroom, either.

Folks like you are the reason so many trans people commit suicide.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So you are saying it's ok to force the Christian baker to make the cake for a gay wedding when it is against their beliefs?

And the bill to protect churches and clergy from being forced to perform gay ceremonies was not necessary, although you just said it isn't right to discriminate.

We ALL discriminate.

The gay person, the handicap person, the welfare person, the rich person, the skinny, fat, black, white or any other person.

It's a PRIVATE business.

Let them succeed or fail on their own.
No. But see, here you are being part of the problem, because you don't understand the fundamental difference between discriminating against a person and refusing to take part in an event. This is not about this person being transgender - your prejudices are blinding you to that fact. They refused service because the person was a woman - it doesn't matter what clothes she was wearing.

While a Christian baker should be able to refuse to bake a cake and deliver it to an EVENT against their beliefs - they should not be able to refuse to bake a birthday cake for someone because they are gay.
And a waitress shouldn't be able to refuse to serve someone because they are black, and a barber should not be able to refuse someone because they are female.
The freak isn't female. I don't think they should refuse service--but then it shouldn't be allowed to use the women's restroom, either.
Folks like you are the reason so many trans people commit suicide.

Um, no. People that commit suicide do it of their own volition. To blame someone else is the epitome of victimization. Grow up and own your choices...

Tinydancer · Guru

They commit suicide because they are very unhappy. I'm pretty sure it's because they don't really like how their lives are going and that's really not anyone else's fault now is it.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I am not even thinking about the woman being Transgender.

I am saying it's a private business.

It's been there serving only men for this long.

And along come Sally trouble maker and now that business will probably close.

Why did she choose THAT barbershop?

There are probably ten on that street.

cadiver · Senior Member

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So you are saying it's ok to force the Christian baker to make the cake for a gay wedding when it is against their beliefs?

And the bill to protect churches and clergy from being forced to perform gay ceremonies was not necessary, although you just said it isn't right to discriminate.

We ALL discriminate.

The gay person, the handicap person, the welfare person, the rich person, the skinny, fat, black, white or any other person.

It's a PRIVATE business.

Let them succeed or fail on their own.
No. But see, here you are being part of the problem, because you don't understand the fundamental difference between discriminating against a person and refusing to take part in an event. This is not about this person being transgender - your prejudices are blinding you to that fact. They refused service because the person was a woman - it doesn't matter what clothes she was wearing.

While a Christian baker should be able to refuse to bake a cake and deliver it to an EVENT against their beliefs - they should not be able to refuse to bake a birthday cake for someone because they are gay.
And a waitress shouldn't be able to refuse to serve someone because they are black, and a barber should not be able to refuse someone because they are female.
The freak isn't female. I don't think they should refuse service--but then it shouldn't be allowed to use the women's restroom, either.

She is female, that's why they are refusing service.

weltschmerz · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
They commit suicide because they are very unhappy. I'm pretty sure it's because they don't really like how their lives are going and that's really not anyone else's fault now is it.

They're unhappy becuase people call them freaks and perverts and refuse to accept them.

Tinydancer · Guru

No they are unhappy because they have a mental illness. Their mind won't believe their bodies.

weltschmerz · Guru

These are going to be my final words. I can't stand to live another day, so I'm committing suicide. The biggest reason why I've decided to do this is because I'm transgender. For those of you that unsure of what that means, it means that even though I was born in a male body, I am and have always been female. I've known I was female for as far back as I can remember. This caused me to become severely depressed from a very young age. From a very young age I was told that people like me are freaks and abominations, that we are sick in the head and society hates us. This made me hate who I was. I tried so hard to be just like everyone else but this isn't something you can change.

https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/3oquaq/the_last_words_of_a_transgender_woman/

She killed herself.

weltschmerz · Guru

www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/01/28/trans_suicide_we_aren_t_stopping_the_epidemic.html

Ohfour · Hooker

Still her choice...lots of people are unhappy and they dont kill themselves...

weltschmerz · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
No they are unhappy because they have a mental illness. Their mind won't believe their bodies.

Just out of curiousity, where did you study psychiatry?

How many trans people do you know?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
These are going to be my final words. I can't stand to live another day, so I'm committing suicide. The biggest reason why I've decided to do this is because I'm transgender. For those of you that unsure of what that means, it means that even though I was born in a male body, I am and have always been female. I've known I was female for as far back as I can remember. This caused me to become severely depressed from a very young age. From a very young age I was told that people like me are freaks and abominations, that we are sick in the head and society hates us. This made me hate who I was. I tried so hard to be just like everyone else but this isn't something you can change.

https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/3oquaq/the_last_words_of_a_transgender_woman/

She killed herself.

That's why. Not because of any other reason. Because of the mental illness they were inflicted with.

Tinydancer · Guru

That's very sad. It's awful that his/her mind didn't match her body but that's exactly what happened. Blame the whole world if that makes it easier for you but it's not the rest of the world that did it.

weltschmerz · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
That's very sad. It's awful that his/her mind didn't match her body but that's exactly what happened. Blame the whole world if that makes it easier for you but it's not the rest of the world that did it.

Nah, it wasn't the constant put-downs and name-calling. It wasn't because of being called a freak, a degenerate, an abomination all her life.

Ohfour · Hooker

No one killed her. She killed herself. I just cant muscle up the pity for the choices she made...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
That's very sad. It's awful that his/her mind didn't match her body but that's exactly what happened. Blame the whole world if that makes it easier for you but it's not the rest of the world that did it.
Nah, it wasn't the constant put-downs and name-calling. It wasn't because of being called a freak, a degenerate, an abomination all her life.

That's really a lame excuse.

People are called names ALL. THE. TIME. Over all kinds of things.

No. It isn't right to call names.

But you can not pretend to be something you are not and then get mad when someone points it out.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

People all have different burdens to bear. Suicide is their choice and their doing. They have different choices they can make along the way. Just because you FEEL something doesn't mean you have to DO it.

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
That's very sad. It's awful that his/her mind didn't match her body but that's exactly what happened. Blame the whole world if that makes it easier for you but it's not the rest of the world that did it.
Nah, it wasn't the constant put-downs and name-calling. It wasn't because of being called a freak, a degenerate, an abomination all her life.
That's really a lame excuse.
People are called names ALL. THE. TIME. Over all kinds of things.
No. It isn't right to call names.
But you can not pretend to be something you are not and then get mad when someone points it out.

"Pointing it out" and calling people freaks, perverts and abominations are hardly the same thing. It happens ALL. THE. TIME.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
I am not even thinking about the woman being Transgender.

I am saying it's a private business.

It's been there serving only men for this long.

And along come Sally trouble maker and now that business will probably close.

Why did she choose THAT barbershop?

There are probably ten on that street.

What's next? Grocer hates women b/c of his stupid ex-wife and decides to refuse to sell them food? Or how about men that don't think girls should be educated, refuse to teach them? And you know, men can no longer get manicures just because they are men.

It's STUPID. You don't refuse to cut someone's hair because they have a vagina.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

You are never going to change my mind. It is a mental illness.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I am not even thinking about the woman being Transgender.

I am saying it's a private business.

It's been there serving only men for this long.

And along come Sally trouble maker and now that business will probably close.

Why did she choose THAT barbershop?

There are probably ten on that street.

What's next? Grocer hates women b/c of his stupid ex-wife and decides to refuse to sell them food? Or how about men that don't think girls should be educated, refuse to teach them? And you know, men can no longer get manicures just because they are men.
It's STUPID. You don't refuse to cut someone's hair because they have a vagina.

You are missing the point.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
You are never going to change my mind. It is a mental illness.

That has nothing to do with the issue at hand. He didn't refuse her because she's transgender - he refused her because she is a biological woman.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I am not even thinking about the woman being Transgender.

I am saying it's a private business.

It's been there serving only men for this long.

And along come Sally trouble maker and now that business will probably close.

Why did she choose THAT barbershop?

There are probably ten on that street.

What's next? Grocer hates women b/c of his stupid ex-wife and decides to refuse to sell them food? Or how about men that don't think girls should be educated, refuse to teach them? And you know, men can no longer get manicures just because they are men.
It's STUPID. You don't refuse to cut someone's hair because they have a vagina.
You are missing the point.

No, I'm not. You have missed it all along. You don't discriminate against people because they are female. This isn't the 1800s.

What? Have you converted to Islam and forgot to tell us?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

If i was in business, i would cut hair male or female's hair. A dollar is a dollar.

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So you are saying it's ok to force the Christian baker to make the cake for a gay wedding when it is against their beliefs?

And the bill to protect churches and clergy from being forced to perform gay ceremonies was not necessary, although you just said it isn't right to discriminate.

We ALL discriminate.

The gay person, the handicap person, the welfare person, the rich person, the skinny, fat, black, white or any other person.

It's a PRIVATE business.

Let them succeed or fail on their own.
No. But see, here you are being part of the problem, because you don't understand the fundamental difference between discriminating against a person and refusing to take part in an event. This is not about this person being transgender - your prejudices are blinding you to that fact. They refused service because the person was a woman - it doesn't matter what clothes she was wearing.

While a Christian baker should be able to refuse to bake a cake and deliver it to an EVENT against their beliefs - they should not be able to refuse to bake a birthday cake for someone because they are gay.
And a waitress shouldn't be able to refuse to serve someone because they are black, and a barber should not be able to refuse someone because they are female.
The freak isn't female. I don't think they should refuse service--but then it shouldn't be allowed to use the women's restroom, either.
Folks like you are the reason so many trans people commit suicide.

Then they need to get help for their mental illness--not cave in to it.

They are freaks.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Enough with the "freak" crap. It does not further your argument, and it's mean. They are mentally ill. What, did you pick on the retarded kids in school, too?

huskerbb · Guru

It's accurate. Anyone who wants to chop off their penis is a freak. Or grow one.

Are you saying they are normal?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 1st of April 2016 07:07:44 PM

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
It's accurate. Anyone who wants to chop off their penis is a freak. Or grow one.

Are you saying they are normal?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 1st of April 2016 07:07:44 PM

I said they are mentally ill. But it's not nice to call mentally ill people names.

TOTALLY GEEKED!

transgender man, who was born as a woman, is suing a privately-owned California ‘men’s only’ barbershop for allegedly refusing to cut his hair based on his perceived gender.