flan327 wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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My 90 year old great grandparents used the "N" word and negro.
Why? Because that was the words that was acceptable their whole life.

Did my parents and cousins and the rest of us? No. We knew better.

But no way was I going to correct them. They didn't mean anything by it.

It was an adjective. Like big, blue, happy, or any other.

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 Wow...You DO understand that "ugly" is an adjective too?

flan

-- Edited by flan327 on Sunday 3rd of April 2016 04:39:32 AM

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 Yes. I do. 

Just like nosy, judgemental, annoying, aggravating, obsessive, should I go on?

Descriptive words are not bad. They are necessary. 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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My dyslexia got me a label of retarded in elementary school in 1979. It's stamped on a paper in my file.

Jesse has a psychological evaluation that says he is autistic and that is under a column labeled level of retardation. That was in 2012.

We go for a 3 day evaluation for him this summer, guess I will see if it is different on those papers.

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 That speaks to the school system. It doesn't make it right.

flan

Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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My dyslexia got me a label of retarded in elementary school in 1979. It's stamped on a paper in my file.

Jesse has a psychological evaluation that says he is autistic and that is under a column labeled level of retardation. That was in 2012.

We go for a 3 day evaluation for him this summer, guess I will see if it is different on those papers.

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 That speaks to the school system. It doesn't make it right.

flan

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 Shes proving that it is still a valid legal and medical term. Because you dont like the word doesnt mean everyone and every authority has to bend to your whim. Its still used. Period.

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 She's proving nothing, except that HER school system is not up to date.

flan

flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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My dyslexia got me a label of retarded in elementary school in 1979. It's stamped on a paper in my file.

Jesse has a psychological evaluation that says he is autistic and that is under a column labeled level of retardation. That was in 2012.

We go for a 3 day evaluation for him this summer, guess I will see if it is different on those papers.

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 That speaks to the school system. It doesn't make it right.

flan

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 Shes proving that it is still a valid legal and medical term. Because you dont like the word doesnt mean everyone and every authority has to bend to your whim. Its still used. Period.

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 She's proving nothing, except that HER school system is not up to date.

flan

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 And neither is the liberal bastion of California.

 

http://www.specialeducationguide.com/blog/the-r-word-a-history-of-the-term-which-states-still-use-it/

 

weltschmerz wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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I don't call people names, other than liberals. But, you CHOOSE to be a liberal so yeah, i can pick on that nonsense, lol. But, no my kids do not use offensive terms, name call or use slurs. However, the Left chooses to pretty much deem everything a slur when it is simply speech they don't like. And, many of them can't tell the difference between someone giving an opinion they don't like about policy and someone using a slur. And, there is plenty of slurring going on all over the place. It is socially acceptable to also make fun of " rednecks", small town America, Christians and on and on. So, you kind of need to look in your own mirrors and remove your own 2x4's before removing someone else's speck.

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 By the same token, people CHOOSE to be rednecks, live in small towns. be Christians, etc.

According to your very own logic, I can pick on that nonsense.

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 I'm about as country as they come. Redneck to a fault.

It isn't an insult to anyone I know.

 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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I don't call people names, other than liberals. But, you CHOOSE to be a liberal so yeah, i can pick on that nonsense, lol. But, no my kids do not use offensive terms, name call or use slurs. However, the Left chooses to pretty much deem everything a slur when it is simply speech they don't like. And, many of them can't tell the difference between someone giving an opinion they don't like about policy and someone using a slur. And, there is plenty of slurring going on all over the place. It is socially acceptable to also make fun of " rednecks", small town America, Christians and on and on. So, you kind of need to look in your own mirrors and remove your own 2x4's before removing someone else's speck.

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 By the same token, people CHOOSE to be rednecks, live in small towns. be Christians, etc.

According to your very own logic, I can pick on that nonsense.

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 I'm about as country as they come. Redneck to a fault.

It isn't an insult to anyone I know.

 

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 I know. You don't even wear shoes.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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I don't call people names, other than liberals. But, you CHOOSE to be a liberal so yeah, i can pick on that nonsense, lol. But, no my kids do not use offensive terms, name call or use slurs. However, the Left chooses to pretty much deem everything a slur when it is simply speech they don't like. And, many of them can't tell the difference between someone giving an opinion they don't like about policy and someone using a slur. And, there is plenty of slurring going on all over the place. It is socially acceptable to also make fun of " rednecks", small town America, Christians and on and on. So, you kind of need to look in your own mirrors and remove your own 2x4's before removing someone else's speck.

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 By the same token, people CHOOSE to be rednecks, live in small towns. be Christians, etc.

According to your very own logic, I can pick on that nonsense.

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 I'm about as country as they come. Redneck to a fault.

It isn't an insult to anyone I know.

 

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 I know. You don't even wear shoes.

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 Not if I don't have to. 

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 Right? I love being barefoot. We had the yard landscaped for Spring yesterday and as soon as they were done, I was outside enjoying my bare feet in the dirt and grass...*sigh*

Going barefoot has nothing to do with being a redneck.

flan

flan327 wrote:

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Going barefoot has nothing to do with being a redneck.

flan

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 Tell that to Welts. Shes the one that brought it up. 

But we all know, you wont do that. 

weltschmerz wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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I don't call people names, other than liberals. But, you CHOOSE to be a liberal so yeah, i can pick on that nonsense, lol. But, no my kids do not use offensive terms, name call or use slurs. However, the Left chooses to pretty much deem everything a slur when it is simply speech they don't like. And, many of them can't tell the difference between someone giving an opinion they don't like about policy and someone using a slur. And, there is plenty of slurring going on all over the place. It is socially acceptable to also make fun of " rednecks", small town America, Christians and on and on. So, you kind of need to look in your own mirrors and remove your own 2x4's before removing someone else's speck.

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 By the same token, people CHOOSE to be rednecks, live in small towns. be Christians, etc.

According to your very own logic, I can pick on that nonsense.

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 Well, if you are born in a small town, then you are born that way, sooo yeah.

Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.

flan327 wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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red·neck

ˈredˌnek/

noun

NORTH AMERICANinformalderogatory

1. a working-class white person, especially a politically reactionary one from a rural area.

    

    

    

   I don't see the problem with being a redneck.

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 The fact that the DEFINITION includes the word "derogatory" proves our point.

flan

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 So what is derogatory about being a white working class person? 

 

Nothing.

 

Nothing is wrong with it.

 

It's the user trying to be insulting.

 

Well. If your intended audience isn't offended, does it really count as derogatory? 

 

I come from a long line of hard working rednecks.

 

I'm not offended by the word. 

 

I'm proud of it.

flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Going barefoot has nothing to do with being a redneck.

flan

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 Tell that to Welts. Shes the one that brought it up. 

But we all know, you wont do that. 

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 Well, there is a difference between choosing to go barefoot & not owning shoes...

But, I don't live somewhere as cold as Canada. And I don't go barefoot in the winter.

flan

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 I do.

Most of the time it's warm enough I can.

One of the perks of living in the south.

What is wrong with a girls only place or a boys only place if it is advertised as such? Like the gym Curves. It's for ladies only and that's ok....

lilyofcourse wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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red·neck

ˈredˌnek/

noun

NORTH AMERICANinformalderogatory

1. a working-class white person, especially a politically reactionary one from a rural area.

    

    

    

   I don't see the problem with being a redneck.

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 The fact that the DEFINITION includes the word "derogatory" proves our point.

flan

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 So what is derogatory about being a white working class person? 

 

Nothing.

 

Nothing is wrong with it.

 

It's the user trying to be insulting.

 

Well. If your intended audience isn't offended, does it really count as derogatory? 

 

I come from a long line of hard working rednecks.

 

I'm not offended by the word. 

 

I'm proud of it.

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 That comes through loud & clear.

Tell me, where would you put that on a resume? What job would a person apply for & brag about being a redneck?

flan

flan327 wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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red·neck

ˈredˌnek/

noun

NORTH AMERICANinformalderogatory

1. a working-class white person, especially a politically reactionary one from a rural area.

    

    

    

   I don't see the problem with being a redneck.

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 The fact that the DEFINITION includes the word "derogatory" proves our point.

flan

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 So what is derogatory about being a white working class person? 

 

Nothing.

 

Nothing is wrong with it.

 

It's the user trying to be insulting.

 

Well. If your intended audience isn't offended, does it really count as derogatory? 

 

I come from a long line of hard working rednecks.

 

I'm not offended by the word. 

 

I'm proud of it.

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 That comes through loud & clear.

Tell me, where would you put that on a resume? What job would a person apply for & brag about being a redneck?

flan

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 Probably under the work history. Because after all, it's the very definition of a redneck. Someone who works.

 

Again, you think it is an insult. 

It isnt.

Opinions differ:

The term redneck is a derogatory term chiefly used for a rural poor white person of the Southern United States.[1][2] Its usage is similar in meaning to cracker (especially regarding Georgia and Florida), hillbilly (especially regarding Appalachia and the Ozarks),[3] and white trash (but without the last term's suggestions of immorality).[4][5][6]

Patrick Huber has emphasized the theme of masculinity in the continued expansion of the term in the 20th century, noting, "The redneck has been stereotyped in the media and popular culture as a poor, dirty, uneducated, and racist Southern white man."[7]

flan

Most of my redneck friends would say don't ya wish you were one too? 😜

And another:

The definition of a redneck is slang and a derogatory term for a poor white person, often who lives in the rural Southern United States and who often has conservative or bigoted attitudes.
Read more at http://www.yourdictionary.com/redneck#TSfpwKD16u6QvMVs.99

I never knew the origin of the term:

1. (slang, pejorative) An uneducated, unsophisticated, or poor caucasian person, typically used to describe residents (of any gender ) of the rural Southern US.
2. (slang) The nickname given to miners who wore red bandanas for identification during the West Virginia mine war of 1921.

Read more at http://www.yourdictionary.com/redneck#TSfpwKD16u6QvMVs.99

flan

What's so funny is that the people that are supposed to be insulted by the term redneck, well, they're not.

People get all offended for people that aren't offended themselves.

It's like the term Redskin...Indians aren't offended by the term. People are offended FOR them.

Why don't you just leave people alone.

N****r USED to be derogatory. Now I hear it every time I turn on the radio.

Yeah, tell that to the people actually NAMED "Gay". I personally know 3.

Words CAN and DO have multiple meanings. Just because a word takes on a new meaning doesn't make the original meaning void.

flan327 wrote:

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And another:

The definition of a redneck is slang and a derogatory term for a poor white person, often who lives in the rural Southern United States and who often has conservative or bigoted attitudes.
Read more at http://www.yourdictionary.com/redneck#TSfpwKD16u6QvMVs.99

I never knew the origin of the term:

1. (slang, pejorative) An uneducated, unsophisticated, or poor caucasian person, typically used to describe residents (of any gender ) of the rural Southern US.
2. (slang) The nickname given to miners who wore red bandanas for identification during the West Virginia mine war of 1921.

Read more at http://www.yourdictionary.com/redneck#TSfpwKD16u6QvMVs.99

flan

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 So. Working poor is something to be ashamed of? 

flan327 wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Yeah, tell that to the people actually NAMED "Gay". I personally know 3.

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 Should every dictionary change the definition?

flan

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 What does thar even mean?