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The more cannabis you smoke, the more likely you are to be a loser, finds international study 

  • Persistent users likely to be lower paid and have relationship difficulties
  • Research found abusers ended up in a lower social class than their parents
  • Also more prone to be in less skilled, prestigious jobs and to run into debt
  • Study by Californian university followed children from birth up to age of 38

By ALEXANDER ROBERTSON FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 05:17 EST, 2 April 2016 | UPDATED: 06:25 EST, 2 April 2016

 

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International research has revealed that the more cannabis you smoke, the more likely you are to be lower paid and have relationship difficulties.

The study followed children from birth up to the age of 38 and found people who smoked cannabis four or more days a week over many years ended up in a lower social class than their parents.

It also found that regular and persistent users ended up with lower-paying, less skilled and less prestigious jobs than those who were not regular cannabis smokers.

Financial, work-related and relationship difficulties were further experienced by those taking the drug, which worsened as the number of years of regular cannabis use progressed.

 
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Research has revealed that the more cannabis you smoke, the more likely you are to be lower paid and have relationship difficulties (stock photo)

The study, conducted by a team of researchers led by Magdalena Cerda at the University of California and Avshalom Caspi and Terrie Moffitt at Duke University, appeared in the journal Clinical Psychological Science.

'Our research does not support arguments for or against cannabis legalization,' said Cerda. 'But it does show that cannabis was not safe for the long-term users tracked in our study.

'Our study found that regular cannabis users experienced downward social mobility and more financial problems such as troubles with debt and cash flow than those who did not report such persistent use.

'Regular long-term users also had more antisocial behaviors at work, such as stealing money or lying to get a job, and experienced more relationship problems, such as intimate partner violence and controlling abuse.' 

Researchers claimed the study was important as it addresses an array of 'potentially confounding factors' not included in past studies assessing cannabis' long-term effects on users.

Economic and social problems persisted in long-term, regular users of pot even after the authors accounted for other potential differences between regular cannabis users and other participants.

These factors included socioeconomic problems in childhood, lower IQ, antisocial behavior and depression in adolescence, higher levels of impulsivity, lower motivation to achieve, criminal conviction of cannabis users, and abuse of alcohol and hard drugs.

'These findings did not arise because cannabis users were prosecuted and had a criminal record,' said Caspi, a psychologist at Duke University and King's College London.

The study followed children from birth up to the age of 38 and found people who smoked cannabis four or more days a week over many years ended up in a lower social class than their parents (stock photo)
 
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The study followed children from birth up to the age of 38 and found people who smoked cannabis four or more days a week over many years ended up in a lower social class than their parents (stock photo)

'Even among cannabis users who were never convicted for a cannabis offense, we found that persistent and regular cannabis use was linked to economic and social problems.'

While both heavy alcohol and cannabis use were similarly associated with declines, the authors found that those dependent on cannabis experienced more financial difficulties.

'Cannabis may be safer than alcohol for your health, but not for your finances,' said Moffitt. 

For the study, 947 participants who had completed at least three of the five adult cannabis assessments from ages 18 through 38. 

Eighteen percent, or 173 participants, were considered marijuana dependent in at least one wave of the study, and 15 per cent fell into the regular cannabis use categories. 



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3520257/The-cannabis-smoke-likely-loser-finds-international-study.html#ixzz44gKgDPmh 
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It's like anything.

Some can and some cant.

I know people who have smoked pot since they were teenagers.

They run successful businesses, raised amazing families and do all kinds of volunteer work.



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And I know people who don't smoke weed who can't keep a job and live in their parents' house. Maybe the type of person who can't get their life together is the kind that smokes weed. It doesn't have to be the weed's fault they are a loser. They might have been a loser LONG before they started smoking.

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And I know people who don't smoke weed who can't keep a job and live in their parents' house. Maybe the type of person who can't get their life together is the kind that smokes weed. It doesn't have to be the weed's fault they are a loser. They might have been a loser LONG before they started smoking.

 I would have to agree with this.



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The person is who they are.



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But obviously it doesnt improve the situation.

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Or yeah maybe losers tend to smoke it in the first place lol.

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I still think that pot is not a good thing to put in your body. Maybe it helps those who are I'll and a controlled use of it is ok but, you are still breathing in a foreign substance into your lungs.

I'm sure there are some smart people that pot hasn't affected but also not all cigarette smokers get cancer either.

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I know quite a few heavy pot smokers. I dont know how they function, but they do. And they are very successful people.

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I know quite a few heavy pot smokers. I dont know how they function, but they do. And they are very successful people.

 Me too. It isnt the pot that made the people in the study losers. They just were. 



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Most of the people I know who smoke pot are.. well, not the most ambitious or motivated people I've ever met, but they are good people who I wouldn't call 'losers'.



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I know a guy who made a successful business out of selling baked goods from the stuff.

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And I know people who don't smoke weed who can't keep a job and live in their parents' house. Maybe the type of person who can't get their life together is the kind that smokes weed. It doesn't have to be the weed's fault they are a loser. They might have been a loser LONG before they started smoking.

 Maybe--which came first, the chicken or the egg.

 

However, the fact remains it's not winners smoking weed for the most part. 



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I'll be sure to tell DS1 that he's a loser! He'll get a kick of that.

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huskerbb wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:

And I know people who don't smoke weed who can't keep a job and live in their parents' house. Maybe the type of person who can't get their life together is the kind that smokes weed. It doesn't have to be the weed's fault they are a loser. They might have been a loser LONG before they started smoking.

 Maybe--which came first, the chicken or the egg.

 

However, the fact remains it's not winners smoking weed for the most part. 

 Husker, I'm curious - how do you know that?



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huskerbb wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:

And I know people who don't smoke weed who can't keep a job and live in their parents' house. Maybe the type of person who can't get their life together is the kind that smokes weed. It doesn't have to be the weed's fault they are a loser. They might have been a loser LONG before they started smoking.

 Maybe--which came first, the chicken or the egg.

 

However, the fact remains it's not winners smoking weed for the most part. 

 Husker, I'm curious - how do you know that?

 He's omniscient.

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And I know people who don't smoke weed who can't keep a job and live in their parents' house. Maybe the type of person who can't get their life together is the kind that smokes weed. It doesn't have to be the weed's fault they are a loser. They might have been a loser LONG before they started smoking.

 Maybe--which came first, the chicken or the egg.

 

However, the fact remains it's not winners smoking weed for the most part. 

 Husker, I'm curious - how do you know that?

 The term "pothead" arose for a reason.  



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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Mellow Momma wrote:

And I know people who don't smoke weed who can't keep a job and live in their parents' house. Maybe the type of person who can't get their life together is the kind that smokes weed. It doesn't have to be the weed's fault they are a loser. They might have been a loser LONG before they started smoking.

 Maybe--which came first, the chicken or the egg.

 

However, the fact remains it's not winners smoking weed for the most part. 

 Husker, I'm curious - how do you know that?

 The term "pothead" arose for a reason.  

Not everyone smokes every day, obviously.

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Lindley wrote:

I still think that pot is not a good thing to put in your body. Maybe it helps those who are I'll and a controlled use of it is ok but, you are still breathing in a foreign substance into your lungs.

I'm sure there are some smart people that pot hasn't affected but also not all cigarette smokers get cancer either.

 I agree with this.  And smokers know smoking is bad for them - they just do it anyway.  

 

Smoking pot is not good for you.  In addition to the physical aspects, it is mind altering, and kills brain cells.  I have to question the intelligence of anyone who does it on a regular basis for recreational purposes.  

 

 



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I know a lot of well to do and highly motivated individuals that smoke it to relax. I don't think this is entirely true.

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Alcohol is much worse for your body and mind so judging people who smoke pot more harshly is disingenuous.

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I feel like whether pot or alcohol .... If you can do it and pay all your own bills and take care of business then fine. If you are dropping out of school , work and mooching for rent money then obviously you can't handle either one.



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Oh and my future SIL and dear buddy has a chronic illness (ground) and sometimes that's the only thing that helps her eat. She is amazing 😀

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I'll be sure to tell DS1 that he's a loser! He'll get a kick of that.

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 Well, in your state, it's still against the law.  So, yeah - breaking the law means he has no ability to make other decisions, according to you.



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I'll be sure to tell DS1 that he's a loser! He'll get a kick of that.

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 Well, in your state, it's still against the law.  So, yeah - breaking the law means he has no ability to make other decisions, according to you.

 He doesn't live in Indiana.

His decision affects HIMSELF, not any children.

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I'll be sure to tell DS1 that he's a loser! He'll get a kick of that.

flan

 Well, in your state, it's still against the law.  So, yeah - breaking the law means he has no ability to make other decisions, according to you.

 He doesn't live in Indiana.

His decision affects HIMSELF, not any children.

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It's still illegal.   



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I'll be sure to tell DS1 that he's a loser! He'll get a kick of that.

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 Well, in your state, it's still against the law.  So, yeah - breaking the law means he has no ability to make other decisions, according to you.

 He doesn't live in Indiana.

His decision affects HIMSELF, not any children.

flan

 So, it's legal in the state he does live in?  And he's going to stop once he has kids?

So, it's only bad if you have children and/or it's illegal?



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Alcohol is much worse for your body and mind so judging people who smoke pot more harshly is disingenuous.

 Except in most states, pot is iLegal, whereas alcohol doesn't have that aspect to deal with.



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huskerbb wrote:
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Alcohol is much worse for your body and mind so judging people who smoke pot more harshly is disingenuous.

 Except in most states, pot is iLegal, whereas alcohol doesn't have that aspect to deal with.

  Actually  wine in moderation  is good  for you.



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Lindley wrote:
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Alcohol is much worse for your body and mind so judging people who smoke pot more harshly is disingenuous.

 Except in most states, pot is iLegal, whereas alcohol doesn't have that aspect to deal with.

  Actually  wine in moderation  is good  for you.

New studies show there are no health benefits whatsoever.

 

 

 



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www.statnews.com/2016/03/22/alcohol-longevity-benefit-challenged/

sciencenordic.com/study-alcohol-does-not-have-any-health-benefits

www.medicaldaily.com/alcohol-consumption-health-benefits-moderate-drinking-flawed-science-379001

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Oh trust me, it's definitely good for me, and especially those around me...:)

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Oh trust me, it's definitely good for me, and especially those around me...:)

That I believe. You said you would curl up and die without your Jack Daniels. 



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Alcohol is much worse for your body and mind so judging people who smoke pot more harshly is disingenuous.

 Except in most states, pot is iLegal, whereas alcohol doesn't have that aspect to deal with.

 Doesn't change the fact that alcohol is worse for you. You really do protest about drinking a little too desperately.



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Oh trust me, it's definitely good for me, and especially those around me...:)

That I believe. You said you would curl up and die without your Jack Daniels. 

 Most honest thing she's ever said.

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Alcohol is much worse for your body and mind so judging people who smoke pot more harshly is disingenuous.

 Except in most states, pot is iLegal, whereas alcohol doesn't have that aspect to deal with.

 Doesn't change the fact that alcohol is worse for you. You really do protest about drinking a little too desperately.

 I never protest drinking.  



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Oh trust me, it's definitely good for me, and especially those around me...:)

That I believe. You said you would curl up and die without your Jack Daniels. 

 Most honest thing she's ever said.

flan

 Really? Grow the fvck up. It was a joke. 



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Not taken in context of everything else you've posted.

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I like JD, you like other peoples husbands. Hmmmm...which is worse?

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weltschmerz wrote:

www.statnews.com/2016/03/22/alcohol-longevity-benefit-challenged/

sciencenordic.com/study-alcohol-does-not-have-any-health-benefits

www.medicaldaily.com/alcohol-consumption-health-benefits-moderate-drinking-flawed-science-379001

  Most likely written by a Mormon.   biggrin  pot isn't a harmless drug.  Young teens minds aren't finished growing and do not need to be smoking joints. I feel the same way about drinking too.



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