What a b*tch. Seriously. To off yourself not only in front of your children, but to leave your children to die a slow, miserable death trapped in a car with their dead mother.
How is that NOT a supremely selfish act? Not only leaving the kids without a mother, but putting them in a position where harm or worse could have happened.
I have no problem with the act itself, but the way she did it was unconscionable.
How is that NOT a supremely selfish act? Not only leaving the kids without a mother, but putting them in a position where harm or worse could have happened.
I have no problem with the act itself, but the way she did it was unconscionable.
flan
Really? Now that is bizarre! I have a really, really big problem with it. Especially when you have children.
How is that NOT a supremely selfish act? Not only leaving the kids without a mother, but putting them in a position where harm or worse could have happened.
I have no problem with the act itself, but the way she did it was unconscionable.
flan
If she had killed them along with herself you would have had more sympathy for her. That's how you usually roll.
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How is that NOT a supremely selfish act? Not only leaving the kids without a mother, but putting them in a position where harm or worse could have happened.
I have no problem with the act itself, but the way she did it was unconscionable.
flan
Really? Now that is bizarre! I have a really, really big problem with it. Especially when you have children.
Quite. Now those kids are all going to grow up without a mother, knowing she left them to die along with her. I hope the bitch is burning in hell.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
How is that NOT a supremely selfish act? Not only leaving the kids without a mother, but putting them in a position where harm or worse could have happened.
I have no problem with the act itself, but the way she did it was unconscionable.
flan
Really? Now that is bizarre! I have a really, really big problem with it. Especially when you have children.
Sometimes even that isn't enough of a reason to live.
How is that NOT a supremely selfish act? Not only leaving the kids without a mother, but putting them in a position where harm or worse could have happened.
I have no problem with the act itself, but the way she did it was unconscionable.
flan
Really? Now that is bizarre! I have a really, really big problem with it. Especially when you have children.
Sometimes even that isn't enough of a reason to live.
flan
Then they probably are better off without that bitch for a mother.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
How is that NOT a supremely selfish act? Not only leaving the kids without a mother, but putting them in a position where harm or worse could have happened.
I have no problem with the act itself, but the way she did it was unconscionable.
flan
Really? Now that is bizarre! I have a really, really big problem with it. Especially when you have children.
Sometimes even that isn't enough of a reason to live.
Just thinking of DS sitting there helpless and crying 'mommy' after I selfishly killed myself is enough to make me cry. I can't imagine what those kids went through.
How is that NOT a supremely selfish act? Not only leaving the kids without a mother, but putting them in a position where harm or worse could have happened.
I have no problem with the act itself, but the way she did it was unconscionable.
flan
Really? Now that is bizarre! I have a really, really big problem with it. Especially when you have children.
Sometimes even that isn't enough of a reason to live.
flan
This comment explains a LOT.
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How is that NOT a supremely selfish act? Not only leaving the kids without a mother, but putting them in a position where harm or worse could have happened.
I have no problem with the act itself, but the way she did it was unconscionable.
flan
Really? Now that is bizarre! I have a really, really big problem with it. Especially when you have children.
Sometimes even that isn't enough of a reason to live.
flan
OMG Really?
She's not the first parent to commit suicide. I've never been suicidal, so I can't tell you the pain she was in. Maybe she thought her kids would be better off without her. I don't know.
The Super Target I frequent the most is in a strip mall with other stand alone businesses in the parking lot. There is a Kohls, a Ross, Kirklands, Electronic Express, Walgreens, OCharlies, Buffalo Wild Wings, Olive Garden, Chick fil a, and a 24 hour Kroger, just to name a few. There is no way to tell which cars are Target Cars.
There are only 4 Super Targets in all of Tennessee. So you must live in some vortex of awesomeness. Lol.
It is actually very very clear to the employees which parking lot is theirs. It is often branded. There are distinct boundaries that all employees know. You are required to check the cars in your area before leaving. It may not appear easy to the average person to tell which part of the lot belongs to which store. But the company is responsible for a portion of the lot. That is what they must check. One good indicator is the cart corrals. They are branded and typically denote the boundaries of the lot. If there is no Target cart corral there, it doesn't belong to Target.
I have two Super Targets within 5 miles of my house. One is an anchor store for a huge shopping center. The other is in a smaller strip mall. I guess their parking lots are large enough that people shopping in other stores or restaurants wouldn't park there.
The one that is in the mall near my office would share their parking lot with other stores, but maybe they are responsible for it's surveillance.
I don't care how she was feeling. A good mother makes sure her children are safe regardless of how she is feeling.
I might feel differently if she had even attempted to get help, but she did not. She was in a store parking lot, for heaven's sake - she could have left the kids in the store somewhere and gone and offed herself.
Nope. She was NOT a good mother.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
She was depressed and overwhelmed, from what her friends said.
I think she snapped.
It's terrible that she didn't leave her children at home, or with friends/family, when she did this.
But, from all the reports I've seen, she was a wonderful Mom.
She lost her mind. And took her own life.
Her kids could have died in a hot car. (Thank God, they survived.)
I think it's awful. All the way around.
I don't think she was a bitch, at all. I think she was a good Mom, who went off the deep end.
I feel sorry for the whole family.
JMHO.
I think this is it. I just wish she had not done it with her kids in the car with her. Hopefully they are all young enough that they aren't scarred for life.
She was depressed and overwhelmed, from what her friends said.
I think she snapped.
It's terrible that she didn't leave her children at home, or with friends/family, when she did this.
But, from all the reports I've seen, she was a wonderful Mom.
She lost her mind. And took her own life.
Her kids could have died in a hot car. (Thank God, they survived.)
I think it's awful. All the way around.
I don't think she was a bitch, at all. I think she was a good Mom, who went off the deep end.
I feel sorry for the whole family.
JMHO.
I think this is it. I just wish she had not done it with her kids in the car with her. Hopefully they are all young enough that they aren't scarred for life.
She was no t thinking clearly, obviously. This is a very sad situation for this family.
I doubt she meant to harm her children. She was ill and not thinking about the consequences of her actions. Very sad.
Is it strange that the music teacher & others who knew her noticed she was depressed & overwhelmed but her husband didn't? Was he just too close to it to notice or was he part of the problem? I'm not accusing him of anything, just wondering if maybe he had been more supportive & involved she wouldn't have been so overwhelmed.
She may have been hiding it from her husband. Or maybe he didn't pay much attention to her. Or maybe he thought she would "just get over it", like many people think people with depression can overcome it through willpower alone.
He didn't even report her missing for 3 days. I think HE was the root of the problem...
He didn't report her & his children missing for 3 days??? I totally missed that part. I thought they were looking for them & it took 3 days to find them. Holy shyt! I'd say he was the root of the problem. Did he explain not reporting them?
He didn't even report her missing for 3 days. I think HE was the root of the problem...
He didn't report her & his children missing for 3 days??? I totally missed that part. I thought they were looking for them & it took 3 days to find them. Holy shyt! I'd say he was the root of the problem. Did he explain not reporting them?
No, she went missing on a Monday. The husband reported it on Tuesday.
He was under the mistaken impression that you had to wait 24 hours to report someone missing to the police.
He didn't even report her missing for 3 days. I think HE was the root of the problem...
He didn't report her & his children missing for 3 days??? I totally missed that part. I thought they were looking for them & it took 3 days to find them. Holy shyt! I'd say he was the root of the problem. Did he explain not reporting them?
No, she went missing on a Monday. The husband reported it on Tuesday.
He was under the mistaken impression that you had to wait 24 hours to report someone missing to the police.
AH! My bad. I still don't buy it though...
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He didn't even report her missing for 3 days. I think HE was the root of the problem...
He didn't report her & his children missing for 3 days??? I totally missed that part. I thought they were looking for them & it took 3 days to find them. Holy shyt! I'd say he was the root of the problem. Did he explain not reporting them?
No, she went missing on a Monday. The husband reported it on Tuesday.
He was under the mistaken impression that you had to wait 24 hours to report someone missing to the police.
OK, thanks. I get why he thought 24 hours. That is what they say on every police show on TV.
He didn't even report her missing for 3 days. I think HE was the root of the problem...
He didn't report her & his children missing for 3 days??? I totally missed that part. I thought they were looking for them & it took 3 days to find them. Holy shyt! I'd say he was the root of the problem. Did he explain not reporting them?
No, she went missing on a Monday. The husband reported it on Tuesday.
He was under the mistaken impression that you had to wait 24 hours to report someone missing to the police.
OK, thanks. I get why he thought 24 hours. That is what they say on every police show on TV.
But it wasn't just her. It was the kids too. If my kids didn't come home, I would have everybody and their brother out looking for them...
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He didn't even report her missing for 3 days. I think HE was the root of the problem...
He didn't report her & his children missing for 3 days??? I totally missed that part. I thought they were looking for them & it took 3 days to find them. Holy shyt! I'd say he was the root of the problem. Did he explain not reporting them?
No, she went missing on a Monday. The husband reported it on Tuesday.
He was under the mistaken impression that you had to wait 24 hours to report someone missing to the police.
OK, thanks. I get why he thought 24 hours. That is what they say on every police show on TV.
But it wasn't just her. It was the kids too. If my kids didn't come home, I would have everybody and their brother out looking for them...
The fact that this was a busy parking lot, it should have been seen by someone.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.
She tortured those babies.
I have zero sympathy for her.
I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.
And I hope they have a way better life now.
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Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.
She tortured those babies.
I have zero sympathy for her.
I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.
And I hope they have a way better life now.
I don't think she meant any harm to her children, Lily.
It sounds like she had a mental break down, and killed herself.
From another article in the local news:
The investigation, completed by the Frisco Police Department’s Criminal Investigations Division (CID), determined that there was no deliberate plan by Woo to harm her three children.
Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.
She tortured those babies.
I have zero sympathy for her.
I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.
And I hope they have a way better life now.
I don't think she meant any harm to her children, Lily.
It sounds like she had a mental break down, and killed herself.
From another article in the local news:
The investigation, completed by the Frisco Police Department’s Criminal Investigations Division (CID), determined that there was no deliberate plan by Woo to harm her three children.
I disagree. Certainly she wasn't stupid enough to think that her kids would be unharmed by her actions. She deliberately killed herself knowing her kids were there. This: "She parked near the back of the store, and put the sun shade in the windshield." proves she deliberately parked and acted such that she would not be discovered anytime soon. The fact that she had her kids with her then killed herself demonstrates that she did deliberately plan to harm them. If she didn't, she would've made arrangements for her kids first.
Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.
She tortured those babies.
I have zero sympathy for her.
I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.
And I hope they have a way better life now.
I don't think she meant any harm to her children, Lily.
It sounds like she had a mental break down, and killed herself.
From another article in the local news:
The investigation, completed by the Frisco Police Department’s Criminal Investigations Division (CID), determined that there was no deliberate plan by Woo to harm her three children.
I disagree. Certainly she wasn't stupid enough to think that her kids would be unharmed by her actions. She deliberately killed herself knowing her kids were there. This: "She parked near the back of the store, and put the sun shade in the windshield." proves she deliberately parked and acted such that she would not be discovered anytime soon. The fact that she had her kids with her then killed herself demonstrates that she did deliberately plan to harm them. If she didn't, she would've made arrangements for her kids first.
I agree 100%.
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Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.
She tortured those babies.
I have zero sympathy for her.
I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.
And I hope they have a way better life now.
I don't think she meant any harm to her children, Lily.
It sounds like she had a mental break down, and killed herself.
From another article in the local news:
The investigation, completed by the Frisco Police Department’s Criminal Investigations Division (CID), determined that there was no deliberate plan by Woo to harm her three children.
I disagree. Certainly she wasn't stupid enough to think that her kids would be unharmed by her actions. She deliberately killed herself knowing her kids were there. This: "She parked near the back of the store, and put the sun shade in the windshield." proves she deliberately parked and acted such that she would not be discovered anytime soon. The fact that she had her kids with her then killed herself demonstrates that she did deliberately plan to harm them. If she didn't, she would've made arrangements for her kids first.
I agree 100%.
She planned to inflict as much pain as possible on someone, her husband most likely.
Sorry, I just can not imagine any real mother doing anything like this.
I think she planned it.
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Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.
She tortured those babies.
I have zero sympathy for her.
I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.
And I hope they have a way better life now.
I don't think she meant any harm to her children, Lily.
It sounds like she had a mental break down, and killed herself.
From another article in the local news:
The investigation, completed by the Frisco Police Department’s Criminal Investigations Division (CID), determined that there was no deliberate plan by Woo to harm her three children.
Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.
She tortured those babies.
I have zero sympathy for her.
I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.
And I hope they have a way better life now.
I don't think she meant any harm to her children, Lily.
It sounds like she had a mental break down, and killed herself.
From another article in the local news:
The investigation, completed by the Frisco Police Department’s Criminal Investigations Division (CID), determined that there was no deliberate plan by Woo to harm her three children.
I love the "zero sympathy" for the mentally ill.
flan
There you go. Defending murderers again. Have you no shame?
-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 22nd of April 2016 05:29:18 PM
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Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.
She tortured those babies.
I have zero sympathy for her.
I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.
And I hope they have a way better life now.
I don't think she meant any harm to her children, Lily.
It sounds like she had a mental break down, and killed herself.
From another article in the local news:
The investigation, completed by the Frisco Police Department’s Criminal Investigations Division (CID), determined that there was no deliberate plan by Woo to harm her three children.
I disagree. Certainly she wasn't stupid enough to think that her kids would be unharmed by her actions. She deliberately killed herself knowing her kids were there. This: "She parked near the back of the store, and put the sun shade in the windshield." proves she deliberately parked and acted such that she would not be discovered anytime soon. The fact that she had her kids with her then killed herself demonstrates that she did deliberately plan to harm them. If she didn't, she would've made arrangements for her kids first.
Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.
She tortured those babies.
I have zero sympathy for her.
I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.
And I hope they have a way better life now.
I don't think she meant any harm to her children, Lily.
It sounds like she had a mental break down, and killed herself.
From another article in the local news:
The investigation, completed by the Frisco Police Department’s Criminal Investigations Division (CID), determined that there was no deliberate plan by Woo to harm her three children.
I love the "zero sympathy" for the mentally ill.
flan
Oh give it a rest.
She tried to kill her own kids.
No. I have absolutely no sympathy for her.
The children, on the other hand, have all my sympathy and prayers.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.
She tortured those babies.
I have zero sympathy for her.
I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.
And I hope they have a way better life now.
I don't think she meant any harm to her children, Lily.
It sounds like she had a mental break down, and killed herself.
From another article in the local news:
The investigation, completed by the Frisco Police Department’s Criminal Investigations Division (CID), determined that there was no deliberate plan by Woo to harm her three children.
I love the "zero sympathy" for the mentally ill.
flan
Oh give it a rest.
She tried to kill her own kids.
No. I have absolutely no sympathy for her.
The children, on the other hand, have all my sympathy and prayers.
Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.
She tortured those babies.
I have zero sympathy for her.
I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.
And I hope they have a way better life now.
I don't think she meant any harm to her children, Lily.
It sounds like she had a mental break down, and killed herself.
From another article in the local news:
The investigation, completed by the Frisco Police Department’s Criminal Investigations Division (CID), determined that there was no deliberate plan by Woo to harm her three children.
I disagree. Certainly she wasn't stupid enough to think that her kids would be unharmed by her actions. She deliberately killed herself knowing her kids were there. This: "She parked near the back of the store, and put the sun shade in the windshield." proves she deliberately parked and acted such that she would not be discovered anytime soon. The fact that she had her kids with her then killed herself demonstrates that she did deliberately plan to harm them. If she didn't, she would've made arrangements for her kids first.
You are thinking logically. She wasn't.
flan
How do you know she wasn't?
Actions don't have to be logical to be deliberate. I don't buy for one red hot second that this way some spur of the moment thing. Putting up the shade indicates some level of thinking. Someone acting rashly would just park and get it over with. Not intentionally act such that they would avoid being noticed.
Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.
She tortured those babies.
I have zero sympathy for her.
I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.
And I hope they have a way better life now.
I don't think she meant any harm to her children, Lily.
It sounds like she had a mental break down, and killed herself.
From another article in the local news:
The investigation, completed by the Frisco Police Department’s Criminal Investigations Division (CID), determined that there was no deliberate plan by Woo to harm her three children.
I love the "zero sympathy" for the mentally ill.
flan
Oh give it a rest.
She tried to kill her own kids.
No. I have absolutely no sympathy for her.
The children, on the other hand, have all my sympathy and prayers.
"Give it a rest."
Nope. Not your call.
flan
Not my call?
What isn't my call?
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How is that NOT a supremely selfish act? Not only leaving the kids without a mother, but putting them in a position where harm or worse could have happened.
I have no problem with the act itself, but the way she did it was unconscionable.
flan
So it's all jolly good to leave three young children without a mother? Sick.
in that regard there is ZERO difference between her death and a mother of three killed by a murderer. She's the murderer in this case--and deserves that comparison.
-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 22nd of April 2016 05:30:55 PM
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
How is that NOT a supremely selfish act? Not only leaving the kids without a mother, but putting them in a position where harm or worse could have happened.
I have no problem with the act itself, but the way she did it was unconscionable.
flan
So it's all jolly good to leave three young children without a mother? Sick.
She's defending her, Husker. Exactly as you have said...
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He didn't even report her missing for 3 days. I think HE was the root of the problem...
He didn't report her & his children missing for 3 days??? I totally missed that part. I thought they were looking for them & it took 3 days to find them. Holy shyt! I'd say he was the root of the problem. Did he explain not reporting them?
No, she went missing on a Monday. The husband reported it on Tuesday.
He was under the mistaken impression that you had to wait 24 hours to report someone missing to the police.
OK, thanks. I get why he thought 24 hours. That is what they say on every police show on TV.
But it wasn't just her. It was the kids too. If my kids didn't come home, I would have everybody and their brother out looking for them...
I would have a search going within 2 hours. She is a bitch, she died while her kids watched and knowing they could have died too.
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How is that NOT a supremely selfish act? Not only leaving the kids without a mother, but putting them in a position where harm or worse could have happened.
I have no problem with the act itself, but the way she did it was unconscionable.
flan
Really? Now that is bizarre! I have a really, really big problem with it. Especially when you have children.
Sometimes even that isn't enough of a reason to live.
flan
OMG Really?
She's not the first parent to commit suicide. I've never been suicidal, so I can't tell you the pain she was in. Maybe she thought her kids would be better off without her. I don't know.
flan
Who cares what she thought???? her actions could easily have killed them.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
How anybody can think she meant no harm to her kids when she parked out of the way, covered the windshield, locked them in a vehicle with her, and then killed herself, leaving the kids to die, too, is beyond me.
I know people prefer to think the best and that a mother wouldn't really do that, but she DID. She knew what she was doing. It was EVIL.
There is no indication ANYWHERE that she ever sought out help for depression, and she was perfectly fine just a few months previously.
She did NOTHING to help herself or those kids, so, NO - she doesn't get sympathy.
This is the absolute example of a selfish suicide.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.