TOTALLY GEEKED!

NAOW · Vette's SS

RE: Mother of 3 found Dead in Suv. Children in car with her body for 3 days.

weltschmerz · Guru

NAOW wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Fort Worth Mom wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.

She tortured those babies.

I have zero sympathy for her.

I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.

And I hope they have a way better life now.
I don't think she meant any harm to her children, Lily.
It sounds like she had a mental break down, and killed herself.
From another article in the local news:
The investigation, completed by the Frisco Police Department’s Criminal Investigations Division (CID), determined that there was no deliberate plan by Woo to harm her three children.

I love the "zero sympathy" for the mentally ill.
flan
Being depressed is not the same thing as being mentally ill.

Severe depression can lead to psychosis.

We don't know what she was thinking.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I do.

She was thinking she wanted to kill her kids and herself.

Ohfour · Hooker

Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...

Why, yes!

Just because I understand that there's such a thing as a psychotic depression, means I'm all for murderers.

Listen to yourself. You couldn't get more ridiculous.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...
Why, yes!
Just because I understand that there's such a thing as a psychotic depression, means I'm all for murderers.
Listen to yourself. You couldn't get more ridiculous.

She tried to kill her kids too. In THE most horribly imaginable way. Just let them rot. Yeah, sounds like someone you would defend...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 22nd of April 2016 06:28:48 PM

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...
Why, yes!
Just because I understand that there's such a thing as a psychotic depression, means I'm all for murderers.
Listen to yourself. You couldn't get more ridiculous.
She tried to kill her kids too. In THE most horribly imaginable way. Just let them rot. Yeah, sounds like someone you would defend...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 22nd of April 2016 06:28:48 PM

You don't know what she tried. You clearly don't understand psychosis. Or transgenderism. Or algebra.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...
Why, yes!
Just because I understand that there's such a thing as a psychotic depression, means I'm all for murderers.
Listen to yourself. You couldn't get more ridiculous.
She tried to kill her kids too. In THE most horribly imaginable way. Just let them rot. Yeah, sounds like someone you would defend...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 22nd of April 2016 06:28:48 PM
You don't know what she tried. You clearly don't understand psychosis. Or transgenderism. Or algebra.

But she DOES know EVERYTHING.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

NAOW wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Fort Worth Mom wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.

She tortured those babies.

I have zero sympathy for her.

I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.

And I hope they have a way better life now.
I don't think she meant any harm to her children, Lily.
It sounds like she had a mental break down, and killed herself.
From another article in the local news:
The investigation, completed by the Frisco Police Department’s Criminal Investigations Division (CID), determined that there was no deliberate plan by Woo to harm her three children.

I love the "zero sympathy" for the mentally ill.
flan
Being depressed is not the same thing as being mentally ill.

Clinical depression is indeed a form of mental illness.

flan

weltschmerz · Guru

flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...
Why, yes!
Just because I understand that there's such a thing as a psychotic depression, means I'm all for murderers.
Listen to yourself. You couldn't get more ridiculous.
She tried to kill her kids too. In THE most horribly imaginable way. Just let them rot. Yeah, sounds like someone you would defend...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 22nd of April 2016 06:28:48 PM
You don't know what she tried. You clearly don't understand psychosis. Or transgenderism. Or algebra.
But she DOES know EVERYTHING.
flan

Of course she does. Every high school drop-out knows everything about everything.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...
Why, yes!
Just because I understand that there's such a thing as a psychotic depression, means I'm all for murderers.
Listen to yourself. You couldn't get more ridiculous.

Oh, don't say that. She'll take that as a challenge.

flan

weltschmerz · Guru

flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...
Why, yes!
Just because I understand that there's such a thing as a psychotic depression, means I'm all for murderers.
Listen to yourself. You couldn't get more ridiculous.
Oh, don't say that. She'll take that as a challenge.
flan

Lol!

Watch.

The woman was clearly possessed and needed a good, old-fashioned exorcism to drive the demons out.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...
Why, yes!
Just because I understand that there's such a thing as a psychotic depression, means I'm all for murderers.
Listen to yourself. You couldn't get more ridiculous.
She tried to kill her kids too. In THE most horribly imaginable way. Just let them rot. Yeah, sounds like someone you would defend...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 22nd of April 2016 06:28:48 PM
You don't know what she tried. You clearly don't understand psychosis. Or transgenderism. Or algebra.
But she DOES know EVERYTHING.
flan
Of course she does. Every high school drop-out knows everything about everything.

Interestingly enough, I know more than you with all your lame degrees...

Pepper · Newbie

This situation is sad all around, those poor babies. I do know that something can just 'snap' in your brain and you lose it. Just an example, a couple were married here, went on honeymoon, had known each other for years....during honeymoon, she went off the wall, had to be air ambulanced back, admitted to psych, and has suffered with severe mental illness since.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Defending a woman who attempted murdering her own kids.

Don't know why any of us should be surprised.

And possessed? Makes more sense than you think.

Very clear deception and destruction was involved.

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

She had NO PLAN, ahead of time, to kill herself, let alone, her kids!

She didn't leave a suicide note.

If she had planned this in advance, she most likely, would have left some kind of a note/letter.

She never mentioned to anyone, how depressed she was.

Some folks were starting to notice that she seemed overwhelmed. Depressed.

No one was worried enough to intervene.

The children were adorable. No signs of neglect or abuse.

All the neighbors said, this was the nicest family you could ever want to meet.

It seems like, she had a break from reality.

She lost it, and took a bunch of pills. cry

At that point, she might not have even realized that her children were in the car with her.

We'll never know, for sure.

What I do know is, she didn't poison, or beat, or stab, or drown her children. Before she took the pills.

If she had wanted them dead, she would have killed them first.

She didn't.

She lost her grip, and killed herself.

It's a shame that the children weren't found sooner. But, I don't think she planned that.

I don't think she was with it enough, to have any kind of plan, at all.

She just broke.

And, I do feel sorry for her.

I hope the Good Lord will take pity, on her troubled soul.

Pepper · Newbie

I agree FWM....well stated

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...
Why, yes!
Just because I understand that there's such a thing as a psychotic depression, means I'm all for murderers.
Listen to yourself. You couldn't get more ridiculous.
She tried to kill her kids too. In THE most horribly imaginable way. Just let them rot. Yeah, sounds like someone you would defend...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 22nd of April 2016 06:28:48 PM
You don't know what she tried. You clearly don't understand psychosis. Or transgenderism. Or algebra.
But she DOES know EVERYTHING.
flan
Of course she does. Every high school drop-out knows everything about everything.
Interestingly enough, I know more than you with all your lame degrees...

ROTFLMAO!!

Of course you do, sweetheat.

Now, have a cookie and run along.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

The ones most serious about killing themselves usually don't tell anyone. There are no clear signs.

If she didn't plan this out, why did she purchase the drugs in advance, drive to where she did and block the view as much as possible into the car?

I see planning and premeditation all over this.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...
Why, yes!
Just because I understand that there's such a thing as a psychotic depression, means I'm all for murderers.
Listen to yourself. You couldn't get more ridiculous.
She tried to kill her kids too. In THE most horribly imaginable way. Just let them rot. Yeah, sounds like someone you would defend...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 22nd of April 2016 06:28:48 PM
You don't know what she tried. You clearly don't understand psychosis. Or transgenderism. Or algebra.
But she DOES know EVERYTHING.
flan
Of course she does. Every high school drop-out knows everything about everything.
Interestingly enough, I know more than you with all your lame degrees...
ROTFLMAO!!
Of course you do, sweetheat.
Now, have a cookie and run along.

Aww.... look at you.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

FWM,

Thank you for your input.

I don't know why it's so hard for people to have sympathy for the mother AND her children.

flan

weltschmerz · Guru

Fort Worth Mom wrote:
She had NO PLAN, ahead of time, to kill herself, let alone, her kids!
She didn't leave a suicide note.
If she had planned this in advance, she most likely, would have left some kind of a note/letter.
She never mentioned to anyone, how depressed she was.
Some folks were starting to notice that she seemed overwhelmed. Depressed.
No one was worried enough to intervene.
The children were adorable. No signs of neglect or abuse.
All the neighbors said, this was the nicest family you could ever want to meet.
It seems like, she had a break from reality.
She lost it, and took a bunch of pills.
At that point, she might not have even realized that her children were in the car with her.
We'll never know, for sure.
What I do know is, she didn't poison, or beat, or stab, or drown her children. Before she took the pills.
If she had wanted them dead, she would have killed them first.
She didn't.
She lost her grip, and killed herself.
It's a shame that the children weren't found sooner. But, I don't think she planned that.
I don't think she was with it enough, to have any kind of plan, at all.
She just broke.
And, I do feel sorry for her.
I hope the Good Lord will take pity, on her troubled soul.

Exactly!

We have no way way of knowing WTF was going on in her head. She may not have realized the kids were there.

She may have heard voices, coming from the air conditioner, telling her that aliens will look after her kids.

We don't know anything.

They're going to claim you defend murderers, now.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
The ones most serious about killing themselves usually don't tell anyone. There are no clear signs.

If she didn't plan this out, why did she purchase the drugs in advance, drive to where she did and block the view as much as possible into the car?

I see planning and premeditation all over this.

You see what you want to see, but you don't consider the whole picture.

Not every suicide is the same.

flan

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
The ones most serious about killing themselves usually don't tell anyone. There are no clear signs.

If she didn't plan this out, why did she purchase the drugs in advance, drive to where she did and block the view as much as possible into the car?

I see planning and premeditation all over this.

You think psychotic people don't plan things? Really?

We treated a woman who carefully planned to drown her three children in the bathtub. The voices of angels were coming out the the bathtub drain, telling her exactly how to do this.

She succeeded.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Friday 22nd of April 2016 07:01:16 PM

NAOW · Vette's SS

flan327 wrote:
NAOW wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Fort Worth Mom wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Either way, she tried to kill her kids in a most heinous way.

She tortured those babies.

I have zero sympathy for her.

I hope this becomes a blocked memory for those babies.

And I hope they have a way better life now.
I don't think she meant any harm to her children, Lily.
It sounds like she had a mental break down, and killed herself.
From another article in the local news:
The investigation, completed by the Frisco Police Department’s Criminal Investigations Division (CID), determined that there was no deliberate plan by Woo to harm her three children.

I love the "zero sympathy" for the mentally ill.
flan
Being depressed is not the same thing as being mentally ill.
Clinical depression is indeed a form of mental illness.
flan

Ok, well good to know, thanks. But still, it's quite a jump from her friends saying she 'seemed depressed' to be being mentally ill.

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
FWM,

Thank you for your input.

I don't know why it's so hard for people to have sympathy for the mother AND her children.

flan

There you go again...love for an attempted murderer. You should seek counseling....

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
FWM,

Thank you for your input.

I don't know why it's so hard for people to have sympathy for the mother AND her children.

flan
There you go again...love for an attempted murderer. You should seek counseling....

And what about insulting FWM?

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
The ones most serious about killing themselves usually don't tell anyone. There are no clear signs.

If she didn't plan this out, why did she purchase the drugs in advance, drive to where she did and block the view as much as possible into the car?

I see planning and premeditation all over this.
You see what you want to see, but you don't consider the whole picture.
Not every suicide is the same.
flan

Yeah. They pretty much are.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
The ones most serious about killing themselves usually don't tell anyone. There are no clear signs.

If she didn't plan this out, why did she purchase the drugs in advance, drive to where she did and block the view as much as possible into the car?

I see planning and premeditation all over this.
You think psychotic people don't plan things? Really?
We treated a woman who carefully planned to drown her three children in the bathtub. The voices of angels were coming out the the bathtub drain, telling her exactly how to do this.
She succeeded.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Friday 22nd of April 2016 07:01:16 PM

Which gives more credence to her knowing what she was doing.

Still no sympathy for the mother.

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
FWM,

Thank you for your input.

I don't know why it's so hard for people to have sympathy for the mother AND her children.

flan
There you go again...love for an attempted murderer. You should seek counseling....

Oh4, I don't think this Mom had any intention of harming her children.

It really sounds like, she had a break from reality.

She bought the pills, and took them, a few minutes later.

I don't see advanced planning here.

Not for herself.

And certainly, not for her children.

I honestly don't believe, she meant to harm them, let alone kill them.

(Thank God, they survived. And I pray, they will heal from this ordeal.)

But, I pray for the Mom, too.

I don't think she was the devil. I think she had a mental break down. And I feel very sorry for her.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Psycopaths and sociopaths are mentally ill, too, technically.

This woman did NOTHING to get herself help or spare her children. And "just snapping" is not an excuse. Lots of murderers " just snapped".

Ohfour · Hooker

She let her kids watch her die. Thats not cool.
Thats pure evil. If she wanted to kill herself, fine...but to do it in front of your kids?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

And if she was in the store buying pills, she could have left the kids in the store.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...
Why, yes!
Just because I understand that there's such a thing as a psychotic depression, means I'm all for murderers.
Listen to yourself. You couldn't get more ridiculous.
She tried to kill her kids too. In THE most horribly imaginable way. Just let them rot. Yeah, sounds like someone you would defend...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 22nd of April 2016 06:28:48 PM
You don't know what she tried. You clearly don't understand psychosis. Or transgenderism. Or algebra.
But she DOES know EVERYTHING.
flan

Are you kidding me? How is placing your kids in restraints in a car in the heat and hide the car knowing they will die a terrible death different from, say, what Jeffry Dalmer did? It's the same! She is, was, EVIL. Every murderer has mental issues. How do you justify and have compassion for her? She could have ended her life, but her children SUFFERED, how can you excuse that? Oh wait, you also think abortion is A-OK

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

And people are under the mistaken impression that mental illness excuses crimes.

Mental illness rarely reaches the level of insanity that excuses your actions.

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

Ohfour wrote:
She let her kids watch her die. Thats not cool.
Thats pure evil. If she wanted to kill herself, fine...but to do it in front of your kids?

I don't think it's pure evil.

I think she was sick.

She lost it.

No sane Mom, would do that.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Fort Worth Mom wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
She let her kids watch her die. Thats not cool.
Thats pure evil. If she wanted to kill herself, fine...but to do it in front of your kids?
I don't think it's pure evil.
I think she was sick.
She lost it.
No sane Mom, would do that.

That is true about the sanity, but I do think she was evil. She covered up the windshield and parked the car in a place that was not in view. She premeditated all of this and had to know the kids would die. Luckily, fate intervened.

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Fort Worth Mom wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
She let her kids watch her die. Thats not cool.
Thats pure evil. If she wanted to kill herself, fine...but to do it in front of your kids?
I don't think it's pure evil.
I think she was sick.
She lost it.
No sane Mom, would do that.
That is true about the sanity, but I do think she was evil. She covered up the windshield and parked the car in a place that was not in view. She premeditated all of this and had to know the kids would die. Luckily, fate intervened.

I don't believe that, IKWTDS.

The police found no evidence that she planned her own suicide.

And, they sounded very sure, that she had no intention of harming her children.

I don't think that she knew what she was doing, in the last minutes she was alive.

Ohfour · Hooker

She drove her car to an inconspicuous spot. She put up the sunshade. She knew what she was doing....

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
And if she was in the store buying pills, she could have left the kids in the store.

How many pills did she buy?

Here, you can't get more than one or two of anything with more kick than a Tylenol.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Fort Worth Mom wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Fort Worth Mom wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
She let her kids watch her die. Thats not cool.
Thats pure evil. If she wanted to kill herself, fine...but to do it in front of your kids?
I don't think it's pure evil.
I think she was sick.
She lost it.
No sane Mom, would do that.
That is true about the sanity, but I do think she was evil. She covered up the windshield and parked the car in a place that was not in view. She premeditated all of this and had to know the kids would die. Luckily, fate intervened.
I don't believe that, IKWTDS.
The police found no evidence that she planned her own suicide.
And, they sounded very sure, that she had no intention of harming her children.
I don't think that she knew what she was doing, in the last minutes she was alive.

You have no basis for that other than your own unwillingness to believe sane people can do something so horrible. They do it all the time.

She had no history of mental illness. Comments that she was overwhelmed and seemed depressed do not mean she was mentally ill.

She could have been having marital problems, found out her husband was having an affair and did it to punish him.

She could have done something she was ashamed of and was running from it.

She could easily have been overwhelmed with 3 kids that young - the doesn't make her mentally ill. And it doesn't excuse her from finding a different solution.

You are assuming mental illness when there is no evidence pointing to it other than her actions.

And her actions are also those of a selfish woman who took the easy way out and tried to kill her kids in the process.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...
Why, yes!
Just because I understand that there's such a thing as a psychotic depression, means I'm all for murderers.
Listen to yourself. You couldn't get more ridiculous.
She tried to kill her kids too. In THE most horribly imaginable way. Just let them rot. Yeah, sounds like someone you would defend...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 22nd of April 2016 06:28:48 PM
You don't know what she tried. You clearly don't understand psychosis. Or transgenderism. Or algebra.
But she DOES know EVERYTHING.
flan
Are you kidding me? How is placing your kids in restraints in a car in the heat and hide the car knowing they will die a terrible death different from, say, what Jeffry Dalmer did? It's the same! She is, was, EVIL. Every murderer has mental issues. How do you justify and have compassion for her? She could have ended her life, but her children SUFFERED, how can you excuse that? Oh wait, you also think abortion is A-OK

Wow. flan, you get IKWTDS ranting about your stance on abortion, and something is REALLY wrong with your post.

Oh, and I agree with IKWTDS a billion times over.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Fort Worth Mom wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Fort Worth Mom wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
She let her kids watch her die. Thats not cool.
Thats pure evil. If she wanted to kill herself, fine...but to do it in front of your kids?
I don't think it's pure evil.
I think she was sick.
She lost it.
No sane Mom, would do that.
That is true about the sanity, but I do think she was evil. She covered up the windshield and parked the car in a place that was not in view. She premeditated all of this and had to know the kids would die. Luckily, fate intervened.
I don't believe that, IKWTDS.
The police found no evidence that she planned her own suicide.
And, they sounded very sure, that she had no intention of harming her children.
I don't think that she knew what she was doing, in the last minutes she was alive.

I know it is hard to think that a once loving person and perceivable good mother could have such thoughts and act on those thoughts. We don't want it to be true, it pulls on our heart strings. But it is true. Sure, she wasn't evil her whole life, but she was in the end. It is a hard thing to accept that when we want to believe the best in people, as you do.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lawyerlady wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...
Why, yes!
Just because I understand that there's such a thing as a psychotic depression, means I'm all for murderers.
Listen to yourself. You couldn't get more ridiculous.
She tried to kill her kids too. In THE most horribly imaginable way. Just let them rot. Yeah, sounds like someone you would defend...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 22nd of April 2016 06:28:48 PM
You don't know what she tried. You clearly don't understand psychosis. Or transgenderism. Or algebra.
But she DOES know EVERYTHING.
flan
Are you kidding me? How is placing your kids in restraints in a car in the heat and hide the car knowing they will die a terrible death different from, say, what Jeffry Dalmer did? It's the same! She is, was, EVIL. Every murderer has mental issues. How do you justify and have compassion for her? She could have ended her life, but her children SUFFERED, how can you excuse that? Oh wait, you also think abortion is A-OK
Wow. flan, you get IKWTDS ranting about your stance on abortion, and something is REALLY wrong with your post.

Oh, and I agree with IKWTDS a billion times over.

Yeah, I almost never post on abortion, but this really kicked me into high gear. The story is too relative.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Flan and Welts....the Patron Saints of Murderers...
Why, yes!
Just because I understand that there's such a thing as a psychotic depression, means I'm all for murderers.
Listen to yourself. You couldn't get more ridiculous.
She tried to kill her kids too. In THE most horribly imaginable way. Just let them rot. Yeah, sounds like someone you would defend...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 22nd of April 2016 06:28:48 PM
You don't know what she tried. You clearly don't understand psychosis. Or transgenderism. Or algebra.
But she DOES know EVERYTHING.
flan
Are you kidding me? How is placing your kids in restraints in a car in the heat and hide the car knowing they will die a terrible death different from, say, what Jeffry Dalmer did? It's the same! She is, was, EVIL. Every murderer has mental issues. How do you justify and have compassion for her? She could have ended her life, but her children SUFFERED, how can you excuse that? Oh wait, you also think abortion is A-OK
Wow. flan, you get IKWTDS ranting about your stance on abortion, and something is REALLY wrong with your post.

Oh, and I agree with IKWTDS a billion times over.

And I disagree a billion and one times over. So what?

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
The ones most serious about killing themselves usually don't tell anyone. There are no clear signs.

If she didn't plan this out, why did she purchase the drugs in advance, drive to where she did and block the view as much as possible into the car?

I see planning and premeditation all over this.
You see what you want to see, but you don't consider the whole picture.
Not every suicide is the same.
flan
Yeah. They pretty much are.

And your medical degree is from...?

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Flan, there is absolutely nothing you can say or do that would ever lead me to think any differently of you at this point.

You are more about death and destruction than I care to know.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan, we're fully aware you have more sympathy for murderers than their victims and intended victims.

It's sick and twisted.

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Fort Worth Mom wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Fort Worth Mom wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
She let her kids watch her die. Thats not cool.
Thats pure evil. If she wanted to kill herself, fine...but to do it in front of your kids?
I don't think it's pure evil.
I think she was sick.
She lost it.
No sane Mom, would do that.
That is true about the sanity, but I do think she was evil. She covered up the windshield and parked the car in a place that was not in view. She premeditated all of this and had to know the kids would die. Luckily, fate intervened.
I don't believe that, IKWTDS.
The police found no evidence that she planned her own suicide.
And, they sounded very sure, that she had no intention of harming her children.
I don't think that she knew what she was doing, in the last minutes she was alive.

You have no basis for that other than your own unwillingness to believe sane people can do something so horrible. They do it all the time.
She had no history of mental illness. Comments that she was overwhelmed and seemed depressed do not mean she was mentally ill.
She could have been having marital problems, found out her husband was having an affair and did it to punish him.
She could have done something she was ashamed of and was running from it.
She could easily have been overwhelmed with 3 kids that young - the doesn't make her mentally ill. And it doesn't excuse her from finding a different solution.
You are assuming mental illness when there is no evidence pointing to it other than her actions.
And her actions are also those of a selfish woman who took the easy way out and tried to kill her kids in the process.

LL, you have no basis for your assumptions, other than your own unwillingness to believe that even sane people, can snap.

Break under pressure.

Yes, she had no history of mental illness. But, it does sound like folks were noticing that she was becoming depressed. And overwhelmed.

No. No one noticed any marital problems. No signs of anyone having an affair. No need to punish anyone, on that account.

No. No sign that she had done anything to be ashamed of. Her husband adored her. He said she was the most stable person he had ever known.

She probably did become overwhelmed. And didn't know how, or who, to ask for help. Everyone thought she was a wonderful wife/mother.

She was a sad, hopeless woman. She probably didn't even realize how much trouble she was in.

She had a nice husband. Beautiful children. A nice home, in a good neighborhood.

Why would someone so blessed, go crazy? And take her own life? And put her children at risk, in the process? confuse

Hell if I know.

But, it happened.

I don't think she planned it. I don't think she meant any harm to her children.

I think she had a mental break down.

And, I feel sorry for her.

And her husband, and children. I will pray for all of them.

JMHO.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan, we're fully aware you have more sympathy for murderers than their victims and intended victims.

It's sick and twisted.

It IS possible to have sypmpathy for both the children and the mother.