You can make ANYTHING about English and Language Arts.

"Did they say words? LET US NOW DISCUSS WHICH WORDS WERE USED AND COMPARE THEM TO THE WORDS NOT USED."

Episodes of South Park are not movies.

Ohfour wrote:

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Episodes of South Park are not movies.

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 However....

"You can make ANYTHING about English and Language Arts."    

An Indian movie in English class. Ever wonder why your students are doing so poorly? 

Couple that with teachers who claim that algebra isn't necessary, and you have a problem.   

But yes, the teacher was out of line.

weltschmerz wrote:

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Why are they watching movies in class? What does the movie have to do with English and Language Arts?

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It was after the Staar testing which is usually blocked out for the whole day. If they all finished early I can see why they put on a movie. Usually for testing you are not in your normal class schedule so it would have been hard to pick up where you left off teaching wise.

We used to watch The Princess Bride in similar situations. 

Lawyerlady wrote:

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How do people this stupid become teachers?

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 If you ever figure it out, please let us know!

flan

Lawyerlady wrote:

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How do people this stupid become teachers?

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 Teaching doesn't pay the best and the work conditions suck. Smart people do other things and make more money. There is no reason for an intelligent person to become a teacher these days. 

I have been begging my DD to consider another profession. Sad, but it's true.

 

She has decided to double major in psychology and education. She will have more options for her masters this way and it will only mean taking 3 extra classes. 

Mellow Momma wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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How do people this stupid become teachers?

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 Teaching doesn't pay the best and the work conditions suck. Smart people do other things and make more money. There is no reason for an intelligent person to become a teacher these days. 

I have been begging my DD to consider another profession. Sad, but it's true.

 

She has decided to double major in psychology and education. She will have more options for her masters this way and it will only mean taking 3 extra classes. 

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 Really? Money isnt everything. Some people genuinely have a heart for teaching. DSD is an early interventionist for low income disabled kids. Shes never going to be a millionaire, but she LOVES her job and her kids.

Flan LIKES being a librarian. Its not in the top money making careers. I guess she should quit to make more money elsewhere.

Your comment is disturbing...

I think teaching is a calling rather then a career. My son had a awesome English teacher in high school who had encouraged him and worked with him a lot. When I talked to him you can really tell that he loved to teach. He worked as a waiter on weekends to supplement his income and as far as I know he is still doing both.

He has made a big difference in my son's life and I consider him a true Teacher.

Lindley wrote:

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I think teaching is a calling rather then a career. My son had a awesome English teacher in high school who had encouraged him and worked with him a lot. When I talked to him you can really tell that he loved to teach. He worked as a waiter on weekends to supplement his income and as far as I know he is still doing both.

He has made a big difference in my son's life and I consider him a true Teacher.

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 How sad that he has to do that. I am sure he would be an even better teacher if he was able to rest and rejuvenate instead of work a second job. 

Mellow Momma wrote:

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Oh. And before anyone asks...

my father was a teacher and so was my husband. Both left the profession for jobs that were better able to support the family. They could have stayed in teaching, but we didn't want to go on welfare. And with my husband's teaching salary, we would have qualified.

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 I was going to say, around here most of the single teachers qualify for welfare.  I love teachers.  But we just don't pay them enough.

Mellow Momma wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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Oh. And before anyone asks...

my father was a teacher and so was my husband. Both left the profession for jobs that were better able to support the family. They could have stayed in teaching, but we didn't want to go on welfare. And with my husband's teaching salary, we would have qualified.

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 I was going to say, around here most of the single teachers qualify for welfare.  I love teachers.  But we just don't pay them enough.

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 I think there is nothing better than a great teacher. They are amazing. But to knowing enter a profession where you qualify for welfare?! Thats isn't responsible right?!We would say someone shouldn't major in history or art for the same reason! 

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 Exactly.  How many times on this board have we read Dear Prudie letters where we talk about people making bad decisions regarding college?  Tons of times.  It's just not a profitable career.

A lot of the schools that pursued DD for college didn't even have education as a major. Private schools drop it all the time. If it was a great profession that everyone wanted to undertake, they would have it. The fact is people who have options tend to choose something else.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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We invest very little in our children and the elderly. Which tells us what we value. And yes, teaching is a noble profession. But the reality is you also have to have a job where you can support yourself. In some cases, teaching doesn't even do that.

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 The starting teacher's salary in Texas is $27,900. Subtract from that the $300-$1000 a year most teachers spend on classroom supplies...and you are not looking at much. A teacher with a master's degree and 22 years of experience makes $45,000.  That's ridiculous. And probably not enough to live off of. 

Mellow Momma wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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We invest very little in our children and the elderly. Which tells us what we value. And yes, teaching is a noble profession. But the reality is you also have to have a job where you can support yourself. In some cases, teaching doesn't even do that.

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 The starting teacher's salary in Texas is $27,900. Subtract from that the $300-$1000 a year most teachers spend on classroom supplies...and you are not looking at much. A teacher with a master's degree and 22 years of experience makes $45,000.  That's ridiculous. And probably not enough to live off of. 

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 OMG! That's it? That's not very much.

An elementary school techer with 20 years of experience makes $83,685 here.

Add in a couple kids though. If you have two kids that brings it down. And if you're divorced and the dad is not paying support it's easy to see how people get there.

Here is the average teacher starting salaries by state as put out by the National Education Association--who would have an interest in making that number as low as possible for public consumption:

www.nea.org/home/2012-2013-average-starting-teacher-salary.html

The lowest number on here is still $30,000. You can argue all day whether or not teacher are underpaid--and I would probably agree that they are--but they are NOT swelling the welfare rolls, either.

2012-2013 Average Starting Teacher Salaries by State

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2012-13 National Average Starting Teacher Salary: $36,141


State Avg. Starting Salary
Alabama $36,198
Alaska $44,166
Arkansas $32,691
Arizona $31,874
California* $41,259
Colorado $32,126
Connecticut $42,924
District of Columbia* $51,539
Delaware $39,338
Federal Education Association $45,751
Florida $35,166
Georgia $33,664
Hawaii $41,027
Iowa $33,226
Idaho $31,159
Illinois $37,166
Indiana $34,696
Kansas $33,386
Kentucky $35,166
Louisiana $38,655
Massachusetts $40,600
Maryland $43,235
Maine $31,835
Michigan $35,901
Minnesota $34,505
Missouri $30,064
Mississippi $31,184
Montana $27,274
North Carolina $30,778
North Dakota $32,019
Nebraska $30,844
New Hampshire $34,280
New Jersey $48,631
New Mexico $31,960
Nevada $35,358
New York $43,839
Ohio $33,096
Oklahoma $31,606
Oregon $33,549
Pennsylvania $41,901
Rhode Island $39,196
South Carolina $32,306
South Dakota $29,851
Tennessee $34,098
Texas $38,091
Utah $33,081
Virginia $37,848
Vermont $35,541
Washington $36,335
Wisconsin $33,546
West Virginia $32,533
Wyoming $43,269
*2011-2012

SOURCE: NEA Collective Bargaining/Member Advocacy’s Teacher Salary Database, based on affiliate reporting as of December 2013.

According to your posted data, the average weekly gross is $695.01.

That's before taxes and insurance and any other deductions.

So take home might be between $400-$500. +/-

That's not a whole lot left to live on.

Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Is this elementary school? High school?

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 Doesnt matter. A teacher is a teacher. 

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 Got it. Your pre-K teachers make the same as university professors.

weltschmerz wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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How do people this stupid become teachers?

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 Teaching doesn't pay the best and the work conditions suck. Smart people do other things and make more money. There is no reason for an intelligent person to become a teacher these days. 

I have been begging my DD to consider another profession. Sad, but it's true.

 

She has decided to double major in psychology and education. She will have more options for her masters this way and it will only mean taking 3 extra classes. 

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 Oh, no! Not psychology!

Oh4 will tell you only dumbasses take psychology, and that even the stupidest jocks can pass it.

LGS will confuse a Bachelor's in Psych with being a clinical psychologist with a doctorate.

You shouldn't have mentioned it on this board.

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 You always of accuse me of keeping something going and there ya go!  lol

lilyofcourse wrote:

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According to your posted data, the average weekly gross is $695.01.

That's before taxes and insurance and any other deductions.

So take home might be between $400-$500. +/-

That's not a whole lot left to live on.

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 Before taxes, insurance, dues if you are in a union, supplies that you have to buy...

And don't ever figure out how much a teacher makes per hour of work they perform. It's pennies. 

huskerbb wrote:

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You people need to look up some facts.

The poverty level in the U.S. for a single person is $11,770.

There is not a state in the union that starts teachers out anywhere close to that, so to say all these single teachers would qualify for welfare is absurd.

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 You know you don't have to meet the poverty level to get benefits right? You qualify for benefits at 1.25 or 1.5 times the poverty rate in some cases. So teachers making more than the actual poverty rate you quoted would qualify for benefits. 

The school district in Texas where we go fishing was so desperate for high school teachers that they BUILT 4 houses for teachers! Sure, they could have put up 4 double-wide mobil homes, but these were site built, right across the street from the school. Nice houses, too. 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 2-car garage, beautifully landscaped, with an attractive stucco privace fence around the entire enclave.

Why?

Because they couldn't attract enough qualified teachers with the salary they were offering (and they couldn't change the salaries until they got rid of the present school board - the stingy misers!)