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Besides if a penis isn't proof of being a male what kind of proof will you accept welts?


And if you cut that penis off, then it's no longer male?  


No, you have an idiot without a penis... 


And one more time with feeling...no wonder these people are depressed and suicidal.

" Idiots. Freaks. Perverts. Abominations."

Your Christian compassion is underwhelming.



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I have read about transgendered people commuting suicide post surgery because they regretted doing it. I wonder what percentage of the suicidides fall into this category. Anyone have that info?

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weltschmerz wrote:
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Besides if a penis isn't proof of being a male what kind of proof will you accept welts?


And if you cut that penis off, then it's no longer male?  


No, you have an idiot without a penis... 


And one more time with feeling...no wonder these people are depressed and suicidal.

" Idiots. Freaks. Perverts. Abominations."

Your Christian compassion is underwhelming.


Why would anyone in their right mind remove a body part that is not diseased or damaged? 

Reminds me of the girl that poured bleach in her eyes and blinded herself because she thought she should be blind.  She "Felt" like her sight wasn't supposed to be a part of her.  Same thing... 



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I have read about transgendered people commuting suicide post surgery because they regretted doing it. I wonder what percentage of the suicidides fall into this category. Anyone have that info?


2.2% of post-op trans people regret the surgery. That's it. 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/myths-about-transition-regrets_b_6160626.html

 



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My government pays for trans sex change surgery. It's a medical necessity.
I don't mind my tax dollars going towards it.

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My government pays for trans sex change surgery. It's a medical necessity.
I don't mind my tax dollars going towards it.


Whoop ti do.

It's not a medical necessity. Total bullschitt. 



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Germ theory states that many diseases are caused by the presence and actions of specific micro-organisms within the body. The theory was developed and gained gradual acceptance in Europe and the United States from the middle 1800s. It eventually superseded existing miasma and contagion theories of disease and in so doing radically changed the practice of medicine. It remains a guiding theory that underlies contemporary biomedicine.

"It's just a theory. I'm not buying it. Disease is caused by demons."


 It's  funny how you pick and choose science.  Science shows that life only comes from life.  Science shows that systems tend to disorder and simple systems dont' give rise to complex ones and on and on.  Spin, spin, spin your nonsense.



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Nope.

God did.

When he created Eve to be Adam's helpmate.


I'll believe it when you can come up proof that it actually happened.

Adam and eve never existed. 


 Of course they did!  lol   Even if you believe in evolution, there had to be a first man, adam, and a first woman, eve, somewhere along the way of your nonsensical fantasy fiction.



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My government pays for trans sex change surgery. It's a medical necessity.
I don't mind my tax dollars going towards it.


Whoop ti do.

It's not a medical necessity. Total bullschitt. 


Yes, Dr. OhFour.

I bow to your superior medical expertise.



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weltschmerz wrote:
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My government pays for trans sex change surgery. It's a medical necessity.
I don't mind my tax dollars going towards it.


Whoop ti do.

It's not a medical necessity. Total bullschitt. 


Yes, Dr. OhFour.

I bow to your superior medical expertise.


 We know.  You took AP classes in HS.  confuse



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weltschmerz wrote:
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My government pays for trans sex change surgery. It's a medical necessity.
I don't mind my tax dollars going towards it.


Whoop ti do.

It's not a medical necessity. Total bullschitt. 


Yes, Dr. OhFour.

I bow to your superior medical expertise.


A medical necessity is something that keeps you from dying.  Cancer treatment, controlling BP, removal of a limb due to diabetes.

Are you really saying that is a person did not get a sex change, they would die?  That's the most ridiculous thing ever. 



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Ohfour wrote:
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My government pays for trans sex change surgery. It's a medical necessity.
I don't mind my tax dollars going towards it.


Whoop ti do.

It's not a medical necessity. Total bullschitt. 


Yes, Dr. OhFour.

I bow to your superior medical expertise.


A medical necessity is something that keeps you from dying.  Cancer treatment, controlling BP, removal of a limb due to diabetes.

Are you really saying that is a person did not get a sex change, they would die?  That's the most ridiculous thing ever. 


No, I'm saying it's a medical necessity for mental health.

 



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I have read about transgendered people commuting suicide post surgery because they regretted doing it. I wonder what percentage of the suicidides fall into this category. Anyone have that info?


2.2% of post-op trans people regret the surgery. That's it. 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/myths-about-transition-regrets_b_6160626.html

 


The number in that is completely made up and false.  

 

When Carol Costello, CNN reporter, interviewed me in June on the subject of Olympian, trans-Jenner, she couldn’t help beginning with a false narrative that only 2 percent regret of transgender have regrets. That is, the media’s propensity to fluff over the regret statistics.

Early in the interview, she made the statement, “We have researched… and we found a recent Swedish study that found only 2.2 percent of transgenders, male and female, suffered from sex change regret.”

Costello is a bright reporter. That it is why it was so puzzling she would use her interview of me to misinform her audience, unless the intent was to diminish and dismiss reports of sex change regret among the transgender population. Costello used only one study to reach a conclusion on the frequency of regret. She or her staff did not look at the wealth of other studies that suggest sex change regret is quite common. One such study commissioned by The Guardian of the UK in 2004 reviewed 100 studies and reported that a whopping 20 percent (one fifth) of transgenders regret changing genders, ten times more than CNN’s Costello reported.

The review of 100 studies also revealed that many transgenders remained severely distressed and even suicidal after the gender change operation. Suicide and regret remain the dark side of transgender life.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/19/transgender-regret-is-real-even-if-the-media-tell-you-otherwise/

And I suppose the nearly 30% suicide rates mean nothing?



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weltschmerz wrote:
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My government pays for trans sex change surgery. It's a medical necessity.
I don't mind my tax dollars going towards it.


Whoop ti do.

It's not a medical necessity. Total bullschitt. 


Yes, Dr. OhFour.

I bow to your superior medical expertise.


A medical necessity is something that keeps you from dying.  Cancer treatment, controlling BP, removal of a limb due to diabetes.

Are you really saying that is a person did not get a sex change, they would die?  That's the most ridiculous thing ever. 


No, I'm saying it's a medical necessity for mental health.

 


 

Astonishing evidence of other illness

According to several studies, the majority of transgenders have co-existing disorders that need to be treated. This helps to explain why regret and suicide are prevalent among transgenders. The following studies provide irrefutable evidence that transgenders overwhelmingly suffer from a variety of mental disorders. Neither CNN nor Carol Costello will report studies such as these.

  1. “90 percent of these diverse patients had at least one other significant form of psychopathology” reported Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, Department of Psychiatry in a 2009 study of transgender outcomes at their clinic. In other words, 90 percent of the patients were suffering from a mental illness that gender surgery did not alleviate.
  1. 61 percent of the patients treated for cross-gender identification (359 people) had other psychiatric disorders and illnesses, notably personality, mood, dissociative, and psychotic disorders according to a 2003 Dutch survey of board-certified Dutch psychiatrists.
  1. A 2013 University of Louisville, KY study of 351 transgender individuals found that the rates of depression and anxiety symptoms within the study “far surpass the rates of those for the general population.” About half had depressive symptoms and more than 40 percent had symptoms of anxiety.

In all the rhetoric about gender change success you cannot find one sound bite from any media source that acknowledges that even one transgender suffers from a serious mental illness, much less reporting the 90 percent like Case Western Reserve University found, or the 61 percent that the survey of Dutch psychiatrists reported. The numbers are astonishingly high, yet no media reports it.



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Fair-minded individuals would see the cumulative effect of the findings—20 percent have regret, 41 percent attempt suicide, 90 percent have a “significant form of psychopathology”, 61 percent also have other psychiatric disorders and illnesses, 50 percent had depressive symptoms, 40 percent showed symptoms of anxiety—and be troubled by the push to surgery and transition as the first course of treatment for transgenders.

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weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
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Ohfour wrote:
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My government pays for trans sex change surgery. It's a medical necessity.
I don't mind my tax dollars going towards it.


Whoop ti do.

It's not a medical necessity. Total bullschitt. 


Yes, Dr. OhFour.

I bow to your superior medical expertise.


A medical necessity is something that keeps you from dying.  Cancer treatment, controlling BP, removal of a limb due to diabetes.

Are you really saying that is a person did not get a sex change, they would die?  That's the most ridiculous thing ever. 


No, I'm saying it's a medical necessity for mental health.

 


No, that would mean counseling them through their psychosis.  Not wacking off a body part. 



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Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: cohort study in Sweden.

Abstract

CONTEXT:

The treatment for transsexualism is sex reassignment, including hormonal treatment and surgery aimed at making the person's body as congruent with the opposite sex as possible. There is a dearth of long term, follow-up studies after sex reassignment.

OBJECTIVE:

To estimate mortality, morbidity, and criminal rate after surgical sex reassignment of transsexual persons.

DESIGN:

A population-based matched cohort study.

SETTING:

Sweden, 1973-2003.

PARTICIPANTS:

All 324 sex-reassigned persons (191 male-to-females, 133 female-to-males) in Sweden, 1973-2003. Random population controls (10:1) were matched by birth year and birth sex or reassigned (final) sex, respectively.

MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES:

Hazard ratios (HR) with 95% confidence intervals (CI) for mortality and psychiatric morbidity were obtained with Cox regression models, which were adjusted for immigrant status and psychiatric morbidity prior to sex reassignment (adjusted HR [aHR]).

RESULTS:

The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8-4.3) than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8-62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9-8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0-3.9). Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.

CONCLUSIONS:

Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.

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The transgender suicide epidemic: is accepting their confusion really the answer?

August 18, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) – People who suffer from gender confusion are encouraged by the current cultural climate to "be themselves," meaning reject the gender they were born with.

"Transgender" teens are taught that what they feel is who they are and that to be happy and fulfilled, they must become the opposite sex. When Bruce Jenner decided to publicly look like a woman, he was supported by the mass media. Even the president of the United States, when Jenner decided to have castration surgery, applauded him as a "courageous" hero.

But studies repeatedly show that "transgender" people who seek to become the opposite sex are in fact not happy or fulfilled. In fact, a life-or-death internal war is continually going on within, to the degree that many, if not most, seek to end their lives.

That's what the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention and the Williams Institute found when the foundation analyzed results from the National Transgender Discrimination Survey. The numbers of suicide attempts are heartbreaking.

Over 41 percent of active "transgender" people try to kill themselves. That's ten times the average 4.6 percent suicide attempt rate.

And this study isn't the only one proving that those who seek to live as if they were the opposite sex are, in fact, killing themselves. Over a dozen other surveys worldwide have found the same alarmingly high suicide rates.

A national survey of more than 6,500 transgender people asked the question "Have you tried to commit suicide?" Forty-one percent answered, "Yes."

"Chronically high stress levels," "anxiety," and "depression" are most commonly reported among active transgender people. Self-harm by cutting is often reported as well.

The suicide hotline for them, Trans Lifeline, handled more than 20,000 calls in its first nine months of operation alone. Greta Gustava Martela, a lesbian who founded the hotline, summarizes, "With 41% attempting suicide, you have to assume something's just not working for transgender folks."

The mainstream media attributes the exploding transgender suicide rate to outside influences, such as peer and parental rejection, but does not consider the transgender person's tragic internal battle as intrinsic to living a psychological dichotomy.

The facts speak otherwise. The University of Birmingham's Aggressive Research Intelligence Facility (ARIF) conducted a medical review that found that there is no conclusive evidence that sex change operations improve the lives of transsexuals. In fact, many transsexuals remain severely internally distressed and suicidal after the operation.

Chris Hyde, the director of ARIF, explained, "A large number of people who have [sex change] surgery remain traumatized – often to the point of committing suicide."

And yet the effort to ignore the suicidal facts and teach even grade school children that transgender people are fulfilling their "true" selves continues. As Stella Morabito of The Federalist writes, "The [transgender] guy isn't allowed to talk about his regret. Not openly. The transgender lobby actively polices and suppresses discussion of sex-change regret."

Some transgender patients have said they realized, too late, that sex change operations did not live up to their promise. Alan Finch explains, "You fundamentally can't change sex. ... The surgery doesn't alter you genetically.  It's genital mutilation[.] ... It's all been a terrible misadventure[.] ... The analogy I use about giving surgery to someone desperate to change sex is it's a bit like offering liposuction to an anorexic."

Tennis champion Renée Richards, who went from male to "female" in the '70s, wrote, "I would have been better off staying the way I was – a totally intact person[.] ... I don't want anyone to hold me out as an example to follow[.] ... I get a lot of letters from people who are considering having this operation ... and I discourage them all."



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It's not like lopping off their penis gives them instant happiness. Sorry, you are not a WOMAN. I don't care how many surgeries Bruce Jenner has. He isn't. Neither is Chaz Bono a man. Ok, fine you want society to play along with your delusions, well most people will because it is easier. But, you are not a woman, no matter how much makeup you put on, no matter how large your false breast implants and reconstructed genitalia are. You want to pretend your whole life, then i guess you may. But, are they really going to find peace in all of that? Many do not.

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My government pays for trans sex change surgery. It's a medical necessity.
I don't mind my tax dollars going towards it.


Whoop ti do.

It's not a medical necessity. Total bullschitt. 


Yes, Dr. OhFour.

I bow to your superior medical expertise.


A medical necessity is something that keeps you from dying.  Cancer treatment, controlling BP, removal of a limb due to diabetes.

Are you really saying that is a person did not get a sex change, they would die?  That's the most ridiculous thing ever. 


No, I'm saying it's a medical necessity for mental health.

 


No, that would mean counseling them through their psychosis.  Not wacking off a body part. 


Yes, Dr. Ohfour. Remind me again where you got your medical degree. 



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weltschmerz wrote:
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Ohfour wrote:
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Ohfour wrote:
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My government pays for trans sex change surgery. It's a medical necessity.
I don't mind my tax dollars going towards it.


Whoop ti do.

It's not a medical necessity. Total bullschitt. 


Yes, Dr. OhFour.

I bow to your superior medical expertise.


A medical necessity is something that keeps you from dying.  Cancer treatment, controlling BP, removal of a limb due to diabetes.

Are you really saying that is a person did not get a sex change, they would die?  That's the most ridiculous thing ever. 


No, I'm saying it's a medical necessity for mental health.

 


No, that would mean counseling them through their psychosis.  Not wacking off a body part. 


Yes, Dr. Ohfour. Remind me again where you got your medical degree. 


So, the studies that LL posted are bunk, huh?   



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And, if two gays want to get "married", then fine and dandy. Go play house. But, you are not married in the eyes of God. You wanna pretend and have some piece of paper that pretends then fine. But, it isn't qualitatively the same. We can pretend that a dog is a cat and call it so but it simply isn't. So, pretend all you want.

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And, if two gays want to get "married", then fine and dandy. Go play house. But, you are not married in the eyes of God. You wanna pretend and have some piece of paper that pretends then fine. But, it isn't qualitatively the same. We can pretend that a dog is a cat and call it so but it simply isn't. So, pretend all you want.


And you can pretend that there's a omniscient, omnipotent deity keeping score, but it simply isn't true. 



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He's not keeping score but he does know who believes and who mocks. Actually it's pretty easy to get to heaven. Repent your sins and believe.

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He's not keeping score but he does know who believes and who mocks. Actually it's pretty easy to get to heaven. Repent your sins and believe.


There is no heaven. Pretend all you want. 



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I find it sad that people think so little of themselves that they believe that life here is all there is. I think far more of myself than that. I know this is but a brief bump in my life.

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And, if two gays want to get "married", then fine and dandy. Go play house. But, you are not married in the eyes of God. You wanna pretend and have some piece of paper that pretends then fine. But, it isn't qualitatively the same. We can pretend that a dog is a cat and call it so but it simply isn't. So, pretend all you want.


And you can pretend that there's a omniscient, omnipotent deity keeping score, but it simply isn't true. 


 You can deny God all you want.  Your denials doesn't negate Him or make Him disappear.  



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I find it sad that people think so little of themselves that they believe that life here is all there is. I think far more of myself than that. I know this is but a brief bump in my life.


...and I find it sad that people expect a port-mortem reward in another dimension.



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I would rather live my life of faith and be wrong after death, then to live my life unbelieving and spend eternity in hell.

I have always found it odd that so many unbelievers believe in ghosts. Bwahahaha.

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I would rather live my life of faith and be wrong after death, then to live my life unbelieving and spend eternity in hell.

I have always found it odd that so many unbelievers believe in ghosts. Bwahahaha.


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"I would rather live my life of faith and be wrong after death, then to live my life unbelieving and spend eternity in hell."
I suppose I could pretend to believe, just to be on the safe side.

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Well then it wouldn't really be believing would it? Oh wait, maybe in the world where what you want is more important than reality there is no room for the wonder of God.

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Well then it wouldn't really be believing would it? Oh wait, maybe in the world where what you want is more important than reality there is no room for the wonder of God.


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I find it sad that people think so little of themselves that they believe that life here is all there is. I think far more of myself than that. I know this is but a brief bump in my life.


 WHY is this life NOT enough?

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He's not keeping score but he does know who believes and who mocks. Actually it's pretty easy to get to heaven. Repent your sins and believe.


 How? How do I force myself to believe, when every fiber of my being screams that it's nonsense?



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Yet your nerves have no problem with someone with a penis pretending they're a girl. You're precious.

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He's not keeping score but he does know who believes and who mocks. Actually it's pretty easy to get to heaven. Repent your sins and believe.


 How? How do I force myself to believe, when every fiber of my being screams that it's nonsense?



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You said it was easy. Just repent and believe.
How?

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No force involved. Try some humility maybe...

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I find it sad that people think so little of themselves that they believe that life here is all there is. I think far more of myself than that. I know this is but a brief bump in my life.


 WHY is this life NOT enough?

flan


 Seriously?  You are born for no other reason but to die? I have more respect for myself than that...



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I find it sad that people think so little of themselves that they believe that life here is all there is. I think far more of myself than that. I know this is but a brief bump in my life.


 WHY is this life NOT enough?

flan


 My  life maybe but yours...evileye

Now that makes it better right?



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weltschmerz wrote:
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He's not keeping score but he does know who believes and who mocks. Actually it's pretty easy to get to heaven. Repent your sins and believe.


 How? How do I force myself to believe, when every fiber of my being screams that it's nonsense?



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Answer the question. how do I force myself to believe? 


 You dont. You open your heart and hopefully realize that there is something bigger than you. If your heart is stone cold, then thats an issue you really need to address...



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weltschmerz wrote:

You said it was easy. Just repent and believe.
How?


 This is a serious question. Do you really think you know everything there is to know? With what we know changing every day? I'm positive I don't know everything but my faith tells me I know what I'm supposed to.



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Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:

He's not keeping score but he does know who believes and who mocks. Actually it's pretty easy to get to heaven. Repent your sins and believe.


 How? How do I force myself to believe, when every fiber of my being screams that it's nonsense?



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Monday 4th of April 2016 07:03:02 PM


Answer the question. how do I force myself to believe? 


 You dont. You open your heart and hopefully realize that there is something bigger than you. If your heart is stone cold, then thats an issue you really need to address...


Been there, done that.  Got nothing.

Address my stone cold heart? Again...how? Talking to priests? Psychiatrists?

There's nothing wrong with my heart. My mind tells me it's nonsense.



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Then open your mind.

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Then open your mind.


As soon as you open yours. To the possibility that we have no celestial overlord and we're alone.



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It's the faith of a child.

When your children were little and you stood them on the side of the pool or a porch or a tree limb, and told them to jump, they did. Blind faith told them you would catch them.

That's the faith it takes when talking about believing in God.

Blind faith.

Believing what you can not see, touch or hear.

How do you make yourself believe?

You start by accepting that God is bigger than everything.

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weltschmerz wrote:
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Then open your mind.


As soon as you open yours. To the possibility that we have no celestial overlord and we're alone.


 Again, no self respect.....



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It's the faith of a child.

When your children were little and you stood them on the side of the pool or a porch or a tree limb, and told them to jump, they did. Blind faith told them you would catch them.

That's the faith it takes when talking about believing in God.

Blind faith.

Believing what you can not see, touch or hear.

How do you make yourself believe?

You start by accepting that God is bigger than everything.


I'm sorry.  I'm unable to accept a delusion. 



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