Your world without God is very cruel Welts. Your world where kids are dying of cancer. Where there is starvation and hunger and some people have a very sad lot in life with no hope of anything beyond is very bleak indeed.
They do that in YOUR world with a God. Toddlers get raped & murdered...Innocent people get shot...
flan
It's your world as well. So, those things are happening in YOUR world my dear.
It would happen regrdless of whether or not I believe in your deity. I don't.
Except for one HUGE difference. Our present day sufferings in light of eternity. Those who are impovershed, ill, downtrodden have the hope of God. In your world, there is nothing but hopelessness.
Your world without God is very cruel Welts. Your world where kids are dying of cancer. Where there is starvation and hunger and some people have a very sad lot in life with no hope of anything beyond is very bleak indeed.
They do that in YOUR world with a God. Toddlers get raped & murdered...Innocent people get shot...
flan
It's your world as well. So, those things are happening in YOUR world my dear.
It would happen regrdless of whether or not I believe in your deity. I don't.
Except for one HUGE difference. Our present day sufferings in light of eternity. Those who are impovershed, ill, downtrodden have the hope of God. In your world, there is nothing but hopelessness.
Wishful thinking.
It's what's kept the downtrodden in shackles for centuries.
"Don't complain about your lot in life. Dopn't make waves. Your next life will be better."
Your world without God is very cruel Welts. Your world where kids are dying of cancer. Where there is starvation and hunger and some people have a very sad lot in life with no hope of anything beyond is very bleak indeed.
They do that in YOUR world with a God. Toddlers get raped & murdered...Innocent people get shot...
flan
It's your world as well. So, those things are happening in YOUR world my dear.
It would happen regrdless of whether or not I believe in your deity. I don't.
Except for one HUGE difference. Our present day sufferings in light of eternity. Those who are impovershed, ill, downtrodden have the hope of God. In your world, there is nothing but hopelessness.
Wishful thinking.
It's what's kept the downtrodden in shackles for centuries.
"Don't complain about your lot in life. Dopn't make waves. Your next life will be better."
"It didn't turn out great, so I get a do-over."
This has to be the absolute saddest thing I've ever read here. How miserable you must be...
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Your world without God is very cruel Welts. Your world where kids are dying of cancer. Where there is starvation and hunger and some people have a very sad lot in life with no hope of anything beyond is very bleak indeed.
They do that in YOUR world with a God. Toddlers get raped & murdered...Innocent people get shot...
flan
It's your world as well. So, those things are happening in YOUR world my dear.
It would happen regrdless of whether or not I believe in your deity. I don't.
Except for one HUGE difference. Our present day sufferings in light of eternity. Those who are impovershed, ill, downtrodden have the hope of God. In your world, there is nothing but hopelessness.
Wishful thinking.
It's what's kept the downtrodden in shackles for centuries.
"Don't complain about your lot in life. Dopn't make waves. Your next life will be better."
"It didn't turn out great, so I get a do-over."
This has to be the absolute saddest thing I've ever read here. How miserable you must be...
Not even a little. I try to make the best of my life because I know it's the only one I'll get.
It's interesting how these christians accuse me of being miserable, of lying in a miserable bed, then get all bent out of shape if i say soemthing untoward about their religion.
Your world without God is very cruel Welts. Your world where kids are dying of cancer. Where there is starvation and hunger and some people have a very sad lot in life with no hope of anything beyond is very bleak indeed.
They do that in YOUR world with a God. Toddlers get raped & murdered...Innocent people get shot...
flan
It's your world as well. So, those things are happening in YOUR world my dear.
It would happen regrdless of whether or not I believe in your deity. I don't.
Except for one HUGE difference. Our present day sufferings in light of eternity. Those who are impovershed, ill, downtrodden have the hope of God. In your world, there is nothing but hopelessness.
Wishful thinking.
It's what's kept the downtrodden in shackles for centuries.
"Don't complain about your lot in life. Dopn't make waves. Your next life will be better."
"It didn't turn out great, so I get a do-over."
This has to be the absolute saddest thing I've ever read here. How miserable you must be...
Obviously she knows you better than you knows yourself!
Your world without God is very cruel Welts. Your world where kids are dying of cancer. Where there is starvation and hunger and some people have a very sad lot in life with no hope of anything beyond is very bleak indeed.
They do that in YOUR world with a God. Toddlers get raped & murdered...Innocent people get shot...
flan
It's your world as well. So, those things are happening in YOUR world my dear.
It would happen regrdless of whether or not I believe in your deity. I don't.
Except for one HUGE difference. Our present day sufferings in light of eternity. Those who are impovershed, ill, downtrodden have the hope of God. In your world, there is nothing but hopelessness.
Wishful thinking.
It's what's kept the downtrodden in shackles for centuries.
"Don't complain about your lot in life. Dopn't make waves. Your next life will be better."
"It didn't turn out great, so I get a do-over."
This has to be the absolute saddest thing I've ever read here. How miserable you must be...
Obviously she knows you better than you knows yourself!
flan
Sometimes that happens. Her posts come through as well, just sad.
My mother insists that she is NOT a racist. We all KNOW that she is, and call her out on it, she just does not believe that she is.
Same difference.
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You respond to people and when they come back to you, you say you are ignoring them. How about you just not respond or make comments about them in the first place?
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Its photoshopped. Gosh, you are so freakin indoctrinated.
ROTFLMAO!!!
It's a quote from Martin Luther himself!! Gosh, you are so freaking clueless!
Reason is the Devil’s greatest whore; by nature and manner of being she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil’s appointed whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom… Throw dung in her face to make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism… She would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in the house, to the closets.”
—Martin Luther, Works, Erlangen Edition v. 16, pp. 142-148.
“Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but—more frequently than not—struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.”
—Martin Luther, Table Talks in 1569.
“Heretics are not to be disputed with, but to be condemned unheard, and whilst they perish by fire, the faithful ought to pursue the evil to its source, and bathe their heads in the blood of the Catholic bishops, and of the Pope, who is the devil in disguise
—Martin Luther, Table Talks (as quoted in Religious History: An Inquiry by M. Searle Bates, p. 156).
-- Edited by weltschmerz on Tuesday 5th of April 2016 07:43:00 PM
Reading comprehension isnt your strong suit is it? I never said the quote wasnt real, I said the sign had been photoshopped. Quite obvious to the graphically trained mind...
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What's your point? The Bible clearly says to love God with your heart, soul and MIND. The Bible clearly talks about reason and the sound mind of the believer.
Second Timothy 1:7 says, “For God did not give us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind!”
Except that's not how it works. WYSIWYG does not practice a Christian religion he practices his own made up version.
- Tinydancer
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You say that I practice my "own made up version", but isn't it true that we all do that?
Case in point: The Catholic Bible has 7 more books than the Protestant/Lutheran versions. Is the Catholic version that came first but has more the "made up version" or are the Protestant/Lutheran versions that came later the "made up versions"? Is it possible that the truth could either be somewhere in between or somewhere outside of both of them?
I don't believe you (general) can go wrong believing in the following things: God loves us all equally, and Jesus' second commandment of his followers (us) was "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. (John 13:34)"
Weltz. If God doesn't exist, what caused the universe to come into existence? There had to have been a creation event (or a series of creation events) of some sort before evolution can even happen. Something cannot evolve from nothing. So, if not God, then what? What exactly sparked that initial creation from which everything else evolved?
How should I know? I wasn't there.
That being said, a belief that there's a deity who watches our every move and keeps track of our transgressions so we can be rewarded or punished post-mortem doesn't wash with me.
A deity who is so jealous and narcissistic he demands constant fealty and prayer to him doesn't sound very plausible.
Any alien being who could poof universes into existence couldn't possibly be so ridiculously petty.
-- Edited by weltschmerz on Tuesday 5th of April 2016 04:22:40 AM
That's my point though, Weltz. You weren't there. None of us were. Yet, you're quick to say God doesn't exist. Why is God outside the realm of possibility?
Oh, those are NOT mutually exclusive. I operate by both. Your logic says to you that everything was created out of nothing. That is not logic. It actually defies logic.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
The Bible clearly tells you to engage your MIND. To engage logic. God is the God of a sound mind. It is a tactic of atheists to try to paint believers are unscientific, stupid, blah, blah.
The Bible clearly tells you to engage your MIND. To engage logic. God is the God of a sound mind. It is a tactic of atheists to try to paint believers are unscientific, stupid, blah, blah.
And how do believers "paint" atheists or agnostics?
You will never know everything about everything. We all see through the mirror darkly. We see glimpses of God. Picture sitting in front of your backyard window. Maybe it's it a bit cloudy. You can see nature, birds, and glimpses of what is out there. Sitting there you can't see what is outside beside the house or out front. We all go through life with glimpses. I believe God makes himself known to everyone in some way. You either choose to see Him or not. If not all the "evidence" in the world will never convince you.
he administration at the University of Toronto was recently enlightened on why two separate washrooms are generally established for men and women sharing co-ed residencies.
The University is temporarily changing its policy on gender-neutral bathrooms after two separate incidents of "voyeurism" were reported on campus September 15 and 19. Male students within the University’s Whitney Hall student residence were caught holding their cellphones over female students’ shower stalls and filming them as they showered.
Melinda Scott, dean of students at the University of Toronto, told The Daily Wire that campus police had been contacted immediately and worked with residence staff to “support impacted students and ensure the safety of the Residences.”
“Given the serious nature of these incidents and the impact on directly affected students, we made the decision to specifically designate some washrooms in Whitney Hall for those who identify as men and those who identify as women,” Scott said.
Male students within the University’s Whitney Hall student residence were caught holding their cellphones over female students’ shower stalls and filming them as they showered.
The Daily Wire contacted the University dean and staff members and asked them how they could be unfeeling enough to force men to use men’s washrooms and women to use women’s washrooms.
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Oh, those are NOT mutually exclusive. I operate by both. Your logic says to you that everything was created out of nothing. That is not logic. It actually defies logic.
What LL said.
Flan - Logic dictates that there had to have been a creation event. No faith required for that.
God is eternal. He is not a "something", he is everything and everywhere and has no required form or mass.
The universe had to "become". Science says it did not always exist - it had to come from somewhere. If it came from a singular mass that expanded and then exploded - where did that singular mass come from?
And why would anything think it more plausible that something suddenly formed out of nothing than that a higher being always existed?
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
If there ever was a time that absolutely nothing existed, nothing would exist now. Something exists now. Therefore, there was never a time that absolutely nothing existed.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
How do you know that Brahma, the Lord of Creation, who emerged from a lotus flower that sprouted from Vishnu's navel, didn't create the universe?
You don't.