TOTALLY GEEKED!

weltschmerz · Guru

RE: Dear Harriette: I Don't Want to Enter My Daughter in Pageants

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Wtf are you babbling about. All of those are choices. Just because your sons never did anything doesnt mean that others cant do what they like...
Being born pretty is NOT a choice. You can work on your skills to hone them.
You're pretty much stuck with your face.

Huh???

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

There are pageants for boys, too.

Ohfour · Hooker

I guess we should get away from Senior Superlatives too? Its just not fair that someone is voted Most Likely to Succeed, Wittiest, Best Dressed, Most Athletic, Best Personality, Best Looking, etc...
Some whiny baby may get its feelings hurt...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Wtf are you babbling about. All of those are choices. Just because your sons never did anything doesnt mean that others cant do what they like...
Being born pretty is NOT a choice. You can work on your skills to hone them.
You're pretty much stuck with your face.

So your problem is with someone being pretty?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yeah, you are 'stuck with your face'. So what? You are also stuck with your athletic build or lack of. You are stuck with your intelligence level or IQ. You are "pretty much stuck" with all kinds of things about yourself. So what?

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Wtf are you babbling about. All of those are choices. Just because your sons never did anything doesnt mean that others cant do what they like...
Being born pretty is NOT a choice. You can work on your skills to hone them.
You're pretty much stuck with your face.
So your problem is with someone being pretty?

No, the problem is that your worth is based on your looks.

It's a horrific message to send young girls.

How many times do I have to repeat myself?

En tout cas, if that's the message you want to send your daughters, knock yourselves out!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Wtf are you babbling about. All of those are choices. Just because your sons never did anything doesnt mean that others cant do what they like...
Being born pretty is NOT a choice. You can work on your skills to hone them.
You're pretty much stuck with your face.
So your problem is with someone being pretty?
No, the problem is that your worth is based on your looks.
It's a horrific message to send young girls.
How many times do I have to repeat myself?
En tout cas, if that's the message you want to send your daughters, knock yourselves out!

No. You dont get it. You just assume based on half baked notions and your own lack of self esteem.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Why is it a 'horrific" message? Is it a "horrific' message for a kid to be good at sports? Is it a "horrific" message to be #1 in your class academically? Yeah, we are "stuck with " what we are stuck with. If you aren't built like an athlete, then you probably won't be very good at basketball. So, then what? You GO FIND SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU ARE GOOD AT INSTEAD. What is so hard about that? Wow. You really make life difficult.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

It's a horrific message to teach someone to look and dress their best? Since when? What about dress for success? What about putting your best foot forward? What about taking pride in your appearance? Not sure how that is "horrific".

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Wtf are you babbling about. All of those are choices. Just because your sons never did anything doesnt mean that others cant do what they like...
Being born pretty is NOT a choice. You can work on your skills to hone them.
You're pretty much stuck with your face.
So your problem is with someone being pretty?
No, the problem is that your worth is based on your looks.
It's a horrific message to send young girls.
How many times do I have to repeat myself?
En tout cas, if that's the message you want to send your daughters, knock yourselves out!
No. You dont get it. You just assume based on half baked notions and your own lack of self esteem.

???

What lack of self-esteem? My self-esteem is just fine, thank you very much.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Not really, if you find competing with other girls to be soooo horrific. Just saying.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

If you say so....

Ohfour · Hooker

Again....mmmmhmmmm...

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

The lady doth protest too much methinks.

weltschmerz · Guru

Lol! So I'm supposed to agree with the diagnosticians on this board?
Too funny!

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
The lady doth protest too much methinks.

I don't really give a crap what youthinks.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but many parents don't want their kids in beauty pageants. They don't want to send them the message that looks are the be all and end all of their existence. They don't want them dressed up and paraded around for other people to judge. They'd prefer that their kids work on things like making good grades or spending their time in church or sports. Can you do both? I guess. Just some parents prefer not to go the beauty pageant route. It doesn't mean that either the parent or the child has low self esteem.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
The lady doth protest too much methinks.
I don't really give a crap what youthinks.

Of course you do. Or, you wouldnt' follow me around hanging on my every word and responding to and quoting all my posts like a lovesick Groupie! biggrin

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
The lady doth protest too much methinks.
I don't really give a crap what youthinks.
Of course you do. Or, you wouldnt' follow me around hanging on my every word and responding to and quoting all my posts like a lovesick Groupie!

Follow you around? Delusional much?

Apparently.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but many parents don't want their kids in beauty pageants. They don't want to send them the message that looks are the be all and end all of their existence. They don't want them dressed up and paraded around for other people to judge. They'd prefer that their kids work on things like making good grades or spending their time in church or sports. Can you do both? I guess. Just some parents prefer not to go the beauty pageant route. It doesn't mean that either the parent or the child has low self esteem.

Apparently that's EXACTLY the message we need to be sending.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Not really, if you find competing with other girls to be soooo horrific. Just saying.

If THAT is the message you want to send to your daughter, that's fine.

Your daughter is actually old enough to CHOOSE to participate in a beauty pageant. And that's the reason for their existence...to reduce a young girl to her looks.

flan

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but many parents don't want their kids in beauty pageants. They don't want to send them the message that looks are the be all and end all of their existence. They don't want them dressed up and paraded around for other people to judge. They'd prefer that their kids work on things like making good grades or spending their time in church or sports. Can you do both? I guess. Just some parents prefer not to go the beauty pageant route. It doesn't mean that either the parent or the child has low self esteem.

Agreed. 100%.

And my kid who does sports does many other things as well so that she doesn't think that sports are all she is good for. And she gets a lot of positive praise for sports so I made sure she did some things she wasn't so good at to balance her out.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Wtf are you babbling about. All of those are choices. Just because your sons never did anything doesnt mean that others cant do what they like...
Being born pretty is NOT a choice. You can work on your skills to hone them.
You're pretty much stuck with your face.
So your problem is with someone being pretty?
No, the problem is that your worth is based on your looks.
It's a horrific message to send young girls.
How many times do I have to repeat myself?
En tout cas, if that's the message you want to send your daughters, knock yourselves out!
No. You dont get it. You just assume based on half baked notions and your own lack of self esteem.

Now THAT'S rich...

I needed a laugh.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Not really, if you find competing with other girls to be soooo horrific. Just saying.
If THAT is the message you want to send to your daughter, that's fine.
Your daughter is actually old enough to CHOOSE to participate in a beauty pageant. And that's the reason for their existence...to reduce a young girl to her looks.
flan

Im sensing more jealousy.....

Pageants taught my daughter to walk into a room and command attention. They taught her poise. They taught her to take pride in herself and her looks. Not to be a wallflower that shrinks away from normal human interaction.

Unlike some people I know...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Saturday 9th of April 2016 07:42:00 PM

-- Edited by Ohfour on Saturday 9th of April 2016 07:42:27 PM

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Not really, if you find competing with other girls to be soooo horrific. Just saying.
If THAT is the message you want to send to your daughter, that's fine.
Your daughter is actually old enough to CHOOSE to participate in a beauty pageant. And that's the reason for their existence...to reduce a young girl to her looks.
flan

Im sensing more jealousy.....
Pageants taught my daughter to walk into a room and command attention. They taught her poise. They taught her to take pride in herself and her looks. Not to be a wallflower that shrinks away from normal human interaction.
Unlike some people I know...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Saturday 9th of April 2016 07:42:00 PM

-- Edited by Ohfour on Saturday 9th of April 2016 07:42:27 PM

I didn't need pageants to do that. I taught my girls that myself.

Ohfour · Hooker

Mellow Momma wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Not really, if you find competing with other girls to be soooo horrific. Just saying.
If THAT is the message you want to send to your daughter, that's fine.
Your daughter is actually old enough to CHOOSE to participate in a beauty pageant. And that's the reason for their existence...to reduce a young girl to her looks.
flan

Im sensing more jealousy.....
Pageants taught my daughter to walk into a room and command attention. They taught her poise. They taught her to take pride in herself and her looks. Not to be a wallflower that shrinks away from normal human interaction.
Unlike some people I know...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Saturday 9th of April 2016 07:42:00 PM

-- Edited by Ohfour on Saturday 9th of April 2016 07:42:27 PM
I didn't need pageants to do that. I taught my girls that myself.

It was good for her. I was not the right one to teach her those things.

FNW · Guru

Not everyone has natural beauty. Makeup can fix that. Pageants will teach girls how to apply it, which is particularly helpful if their mothers' don't have those skills. And yes, appearance is important. Take a look at the freaks thread if you don't believe it.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Sometimes no matter how much make up you use you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Not really, if you find competing with other girls to be soooo horrific. Just saying.
If THAT is the message you want to send to your daughter, that's fine.
Your daughter is actually old enough to CHOOSE to participate in a beauty pageant. And that's the reason for their existence...to reduce a young girl to her looks.
flan

Im sensing more jealousy.....
Pageants taught my daughter to walk into a room and command attention. They taught her poise. They taught her to take pride in herself and her looks. Not to be a wallflower that shrinks away from normal human interaction.
Unlike some people I know...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Saturday 9th of April 2016 07:42:00 PM

-- Edited by Ohfour on Saturday 9th of April 2016 07:42:27 PM

So, turned her into an attention whore.

Got it.

weltschmerz · Guru

Look At Me!!!!!!!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Not really, if you find competing with other girls to be soooo horrific. Just saying.
If THAT is the message you want to send to your daughter, that's fine.
Your daughter is actually old enough to CHOOSE to participate in a beauty pageant. And that's the reason for their existence...to reduce a young girl to her looks.
flan

Im sensing more jealousy.....
Pageants taught my daughter to walk into a room and command attention. They taught her poise. They taught her to take pride in herself and her looks. Not to be a wallflower that shrinks away from normal human interaction.
Unlike some people I know...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Saturday 9th of April 2016 07:42:00 PM

-- Edited by Ohfour on Saturday 9th of April 2016 07:42:27 PM
So, turned her into an attention whore.
Got it.

When in doubt, turn on the Nasty!

Ohfour · Hooker

Absolutely! Heads turn when she walks into a room. She's confident. Shes commands attention. Shes making more than me. Shes has the world at her toes...

Ohfour · Hooker

While Welts son bows at the throne of Hello Kitty.

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
While Welts son bows at the throne of Hello Kitty.

WTF are you talking about?

You drunk?

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
While Welts son bows at the throne of Hello Kitty.
WTF are you talking about?
You drunk?

Nope. You said you son loves Hondas and Hello Kitty.

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
While Welts son bows at the throne of Hello Kitty.
WTF are you talking about?
You drunk?
Nope. You said you son loves Hondas and Hello Kitty.

I never said any such thing.

You drunk?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

She doesn't seem drunk to me. Are you stoned?

Ohfour · Hooker

Nope. Your son doesnt love Kitty?

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Nope. Your son doesnt love Kitty?

Oh, hell no!

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She doesn't seem drunk to me. Are you stoned?

Stop following me around!

Wah, wah, wah!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She doesn't seem drunk to me. Are you stoned?
Stop following me around!
Wah, wah, wah!

I started this thread. I was here first. DOH!!!

Ohfour · Hooker

You have a grown son that gets off on Hello Kitty. Perve much?

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She doesn't seem drunk to me. Are you stoned?
Stop following me around!
Wah, wah, wah!
I started this thread. I was here first. DOH!!!

You start ALL the threads.

Everyone who responds to them must be a groupie.

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
You have a grown son that gets off on Hello Kitty. Perve much?

Again...are you drunk?

weltschmerz · Guru

My son has his own business where he sells Honda accessories.
Hello Kitty stuff is a big seller. He thinks it's stupid.
How you got 'Your son worships at the throne of Hello Kitty" or "your son loves Hello Kitty" is beyond me.
If you aren't drunk now, you must have been drunk when you read it, to misinterpret it so badly.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She doesn't seem drunk to me. Are you stoned?
Stop following me around!
Wah, wah, wah!
I started this thread. I was here first. DOH!!!
You start ALL the threads.
Everyone who responds to them must be a groupie.

No. I don't start ALL the threads. You are being absurd. As for groupies, why not follow me around? I make a lot of great points and i also have a great sense of humor!

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She doesn't seem drunk to me. Are you stoned?
Stop following me around!
Wah, wah, wah!
I started this thread. I was here first. DOH!!!
You start ALL the threads.
Everyone who responds to them must be a groupie.
No. I don't start ALL the threads. You are being absurd. As for groupies, why not follow me around? I make a lot of great points and i also have a great sense of humor!

No, you don't.

Ohfour · Hooker

Nah...you said your son is a Hello Kitty freak. More power to him. Whatever floats his/hers boat...