TOTALLY GEEKED!

huskerbb · Guru

RE: School attempting to shut down high school off campus religious group lunches

Ohfour · Hooker

Tinydancer wrote:
No. We might not like it but we wouldn't try to stop it. That's what libs do.

Yep!!!!!

weltschmerz · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
No. We might not like it but we wouldn't try to stop it. That's what libs do.

Baloney. Mothers were having hissy fits over Islamic calligraphy and Hindu henna, saying they would keep their kids out of school.

They would most certainly try to stop it.

The outraged howling would be heard all the way up here in Canada.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
No. We might not like it but we wouldn't try to stop it. That's what libs do.
Baloney. Mothers were having hissy fits over Islamic calligraphy and Hindu henna, saying they would keep their kids out of school.
They would most certainly try to stop it.
The outraged howling would be heard all the way up here in Canada.

The difference is in school vs outside of school.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

What people legally do outside of school is NOYB and NOMB.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

weltschmerz wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
No. We might not like it but we wouldn't try to stop it. That's what libs do.
Baloney. Mothers were having hissy fits over Islamic calligraphy and Hindu henna, saying they would keep their kids out of school.
They would most certainly try to stop it.
The outraged howling would be heard all the way up here in Canada.

You are wrong. You can say this all day long, but you are simply deflecting from the issue at hand.

weltschmerz · Guru

The park is public property, correct? Paid for with taxpayer dollars?
What happened to separation of church and state?
Do it in somebody's home.

Mary Zombie · Guru

Right? Even if I had a proverbial hissy fit over a satanic assembly I would also know in my intellect that I couldn't do anything about it being in a Public place.
And for the moms that wanted to keep their kids home from school because of henna or whatever. While i think if you're secure in your beliefs other ideas being spoken shouldn't threaten you... Keeping your child home is not stopping and activity. Refusing to participate does not equal stopping the event. See how that works?

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
The park is public property, correct? Paid for with taxpayer dollars?
What happened to separation of church and state?
Do it in somebody's home.

The park cannot discriminate against who reserves pavilions. Churches hold picnics all the time at public parks...

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

weltschmerz wrote:
The park is public property, correct? Paid for with taxpayer dollars?
What happened to separation of church and state?
Do it in somebody's home.

You can't discriminate based on religion. Constitution 101.

Ohfour · Hooker

Lawyerlady wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
The park is public property, correct? Paid for with taxpayer dollars?
What happened to separation of church and state?
Do it in somebody's home.
You can't discriminate based on religion. Constitution 101.

But what do WE know???? confuse

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
The park is public property, correct? Paid for with taxpayer dollars?
What happened to separation of church and state?
Do it in somebody's home.

Oh and you do realize that over half of our voting precincts are churches, right? And that many many HS graduations are held in churches...

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Too many people don't actually know what "separation of church and state" means.

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

I am wondering about the kids crying in the halls and going home early.
Why and why?
If this lunch HAS become a problem among the students, tthe problem needs to be addressed and corrected, but I don't see that they have grounds to stop the lunch from happening.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

weltschmerz wrote:
If this was Muslims serving Mohammed Lunch, or Satanists serving Satan Lunch, with a hefty dose of proselytizing with the free food, these same Christians would be screaming bloody murder.

It's so obvious, you shouldn't have to point it out.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
No. We might not like it but we wouldn't try to stop it. That's what libs do.
Baloney. Mothers were having hissy fits over Islamic calligraphy and Hindu henna, saying they would keep their kids out of school.
They would most certainly try to stop it.
The outraged howling would be heard all the way up here in Canada.
You are wrong. You can say this all day long, but you are simply deflecting from the issue at hand.

And YOU can deny all day long.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
If this was Muslims serving Mohammed Lunch, or Satanists serving Satan Lunch, with a hefty dose of proselytizing with the free food, these same Christians would be screaming bloody murder.
It's so obvious, you shouldn't have to point it out.
flan

You are so full of schitt.

Both of my kids went of field trips to a Buddhist temple. I didn't have a problem with that...

And if it's off school grounds, during out of school time, WTF would I care?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
I am wondering about the kids crying in the halls and going home early.
Why and why?
If this lunch HAS become a problem among the students, tthe problem needs to be addressed and corrected, but I don't see that they have grounds to stop the lunch from happening.

Seriously. Well, you know, they don't want to go to the lunches, but their friends are going, so they feel sad.

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Are kids getting bullied over it? Who? Why are the kids so upset? This is just not getting explained well.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Are kids getting bullied over it? Who? Why are the kids so upset? This is just not getting explained well.

Yeah, I wondered that as well.

High school kids don't usually like to let their peers see them cry.

flan

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
I am wondering about the kids crying in the halls and going home early.
Why and why?
If this lunch HAS become a problem among the students, tthe problem needs to be addressed and corrected, but I don't see that they have grounds to stop the lunch from happening.

I must have missed that part.

Ohfour · Hooker

They are liberals that want something for free, but don't want the stipulations that come along with it. So they cry. That's just what they do...

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Honestly I would probably go every now & again just for the free chick fil et lunch. I could sit through the religious talk for an hour for chick fil et, throw in a free brownie & I might even pay attention. biggrin

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Ohfour wrote:
They are liberals that want something for free, but don't want the stipulations that come along with it. So they cry. That's just what they do...

What the hell is your problem?

Ohfour · Hooker

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
They are liberals that want something for free, but don't want the stipulations that come along with it. So they cry. That's just what they do...
What the hell is your problem?

Who do YOU think are the ones that are trying to stop people from going to a Jesus lunch? It sure as hell isn't conservatives...

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

WE DO NOT KNOW WHY STUDENTS ARE UPSET.
Are the ones going to the lunch being pressured to go? Are they harassing their friends? Are they being bullied or harassed by others?
It said STUDENTS expressed concerns about this. Not their parents. Other students.
You just jumped in with a completely irrelevant comment badhing all liberals, again, even though me, hey A LIBERAL, said the school should look to a solution that doesn't involve trying to shut down the lunch!

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
No. We might not like it but we wouldn't try to stop it. That's what libs do.
Baloney. Mothers were having hissy fits over Islamic calligraphy and Hindu henna, saying they would keep their kids out of school.
They would most certainly try to stop it.
The outraged howling would be heard all the way up here in Canada.

They have hissy fits over those things in school. This is outside of school.

also, just because there would be an uproar over one thing does not make another thing bad, or something that should be banned.

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
The park is public property, correct? Paid for with taxpayer dollars?
What happened to separation of church and state?
Do it in somebody's home.

That is BS and not the law. Groups are allowed to peacefully gather in public areas. They aren't banned because they are religious. Wow is your ignorance showing.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
If this was Muslims serving Mohammed Lunch, or Satanists serving Satan Lunch, with a hefty dose of proselytizing with the free food, these same Christians would be screaming bloody murder.

But it isnt.

Which makes this comment irrelevant.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I knew he was a reporter for Fox News.

I hate Googling before 8:00...

flan
What does that have to do with it?
What do you have to say about the content of it?
Is it ok the the school is trying to shut down something being done off campus, with private funds, on a voluntary basis?
Don't even think about the religious aspect.
Should the school have this right or ability?
1. Because LIBERALS are told "cite your source." The article is so obviously slanted, it makes it hard for me to take it seriously.
2. I need more FACTS.
Don't tell me not to think about the religious aspect. Of course THAT is at the heart of the issue.
“We believe that religious or political events do not have a place in our school or on our campus, except when sponsored by a student group in accordance with our rules, which require prior approval,” the pair wrote in an email sent to parents on April 12."
flan

1. The content is pretty straight forward. A school is trying to use its authority to control what takes place OFF its campus.

2. If you remove religion from the equation, would you still feel you need more information?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
No. We might not like it but we wouldn't try to stop it. That's what libs do.
Baloney. Mothers were having hissy fits over Islamic calligraphy and Hindu henna, saying they would keep their kids out of school.
They would most certainly try to stop it.
The outraged howling would be heard all the way up here in Canada.

In school vs not in school.

There IS a difference.

Mary Zombie · Guru

Teenagers crying and having drama at school. That never happens lol. They could be upset about anything .
And I went to a catholic HS. We had a comparative religions class. One of my Hindu classmates gave a talk in class. A lot of Muslim and Hindu families sent their kids to our school for the discipline and curriculum. Imagine it was the 80's! So no. Not all Christians are the same.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
The park is public property, correct? Paid for with taxpayer dollars?
What happened to separation of church and state?
Do it in somebody's home.

Public park.

Owned by anyone who pays taxes.

I know you are not use to it, having freedoms that is.

It's like a puppy being let out of a whelping box for the first time.

Ohfour · Hooker

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
WE DO NOT KNOW WHY STUDENTS ARE UPSET.
Are the ones going to the lunch being pressured to go? Are they harassing their friends? Are they being bullied or harassed by others?
It said STUDENTS expressed concerns about this. Not their parents. Other students.
You just jumped in with a completely irrelevant comment badhing all liberals, again, even though me, hey A LIBERAL, said the school should look to a solution that doesn't involve trying to shut down the lunch!

Wah wah wah. Bunch of freakin (literal) crybabies.

And you saying the school should look for a solution proves my point. The SCHOOL has nothing to do with this. Period. They need to butt out...

Tinydancer · Guru

Maybe the students who are upset are the ones who are being told they can't go to the Jesus lunch.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
WE DO NOT KNOW WHY STUDENTS ARE UPSET.
Are the ones going to the lunch being pressured to go? Are they harassing their friends? Are they being bullied or harassed by others?
It said STUDENTS expressed concerns about this. Not their parents. Other students.
You just jumped in with a completely irrelevant comment badhing all liberals, again, even though me, hey A LIBERAL, said the school should look to a solution that doesn't involve trying to shut down the lunch!

Students expressed concern is different from crying in the hallway.

Bullying?

The only ones being bullied are the ones leaving school.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
WE DO NOT KNOW WHY STUDENTS ARE UPSET.
Are the ones going to the lunch being pressured to go? Are they harassing their friends? Are they being bullied or harassed by others?
It said STUDENTS expressed concerns about this. Not their parents. Other students.
You just jumped in with a completely irrelevant comment badhing all liberals, again, even though me, hey A LIBERAL, said the school should look to a solution that doesn't involve trying to shut down the lunch!
Students expressed concern is different from crying in the hallway.
Bullying?
The only ones being bullied are the ones leaving school.

There, there...

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
WE DO NOT KNOW WHY STUDENTS ARE UPSET.
Are the ones going to the lunch being pressured to go? Are they harassing their friends? Are they being bullied or harassed by others?
It said STUDENTS expressed concerns about this. Not their parents. Other students.
You just jumped in with a completely irrelevant comment badhing all liberals, again, even though me, hey A LIBERAL, said the school should look to a solution that doesn't involve trying to shut down the lunch!

Funny how THIS comment gets ignored.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
WE DO NOT KNOW WHY STUDENTS ARE UPSET.
Are the ones going to the lunch being pressured to go? Are they harassing their friends? Are they being bullied or harassed by others?
It said STUDENTS expressed concerns about this. Not their parents. Other students.
You just jumped in with a completely irrelevant comment badhing all liberals, again, even though me, hey A LIBERAL, said the school should look to a solution that doesn't involve trying to shut down the lunch!
Funny how THIS comment gets ignored.
flan

It wasn't ignored. I addressed it.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I'd like to see the reaction to this without the religious aspect.

What started as a small lunch group with maybe 40 students, has blossomed into 500.

Students are allowed to leave campus at lunch, parents rent the pavilion at the public park and bring chicken fil a and brownies.

The school has had students express concerns and therefore seek to stop the lunches.

The lunches are completely voluntary and costs the students nor the school a penny.

There. Those are the facts. No hot buttons.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
WE DO NOT KNOW WHY STUDENTS ARE UPSET.
Are the ones going to the lunch being pressured to go? Are they harassing their friends? Are they being bullied or harassed by others?
It said STUDENTS expressed concerns about this. Not their parents. Other students.
You just jumped in with a completely irrelevant comment badhing all liberals, again, even though me, hey A LIBERAL, said the school should look to a solution that doesn't involve trying to shut down the lunch!
Students expressed concern is different from crying in the hallway.
Bullying?
The only ones being bullied are the ones leaving school.

There, there...
flan

Nothing to add?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
WE DO NOT KNOW WHY STUDENTS ARE UPSET.
Are the ones going to the lunch being pressured to go? Are they harassing their friends? Are they being bullied or harassed by others?
It said STUDENTS expressed concerns about this. Not their parents. Other students.
You just jumped in with a completely irrelevant comment badhing all liberals, again, even though me, hey A LIBERAL, said the school should look to a solution that doesn't involve trying to shut down the lunch!
Funny how THIS comment gets ignored.
flan

Again, nothing to add.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Thinking about this, wonder if it has more to do with the school losing money.

Even with the ability to leave at lunch, I'm betting 500+ each week is severely cutting into their funds.

Schools get funding based on lunches sold.

And you know there are more kids leaving and going other places besides just these 500.

Yep. I bet there is a connection to money lost here.

Mary Zombie · Guru

Perhaps children need to be taught to handle their emotions so they don't worry about what other people are doing outside of school? I can say that when I was a teenager it wouldn't have occurred to me to worry about something like that.

Ohfour · Hooker

Mary Zombie wrote:
Perhaps children need to be taught to handle their emotions so they don't worry about what other people are doing outside of school? I can say that when I was a teenager it wouldn't have occurred to me to worry about something like that.

Right? I mean, students are crying in the halls? I call BS on that.

Tinydancer · Guru

Gosh no they should all be victims just like flan.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Mary Zombie wrote:
Perhaps children need to be taught to handle their emotions so they don't worry about what other people are doing outside of school? I can say that when I was a teenager it wouldn't have occurred to me to worry about something like that.

This is true.

Everyone is in everybody's business these days.

Ohfour · Hooker

I just though of something else. The two National Cemeteries around here have a Sunrise Service every Easter. I suppose the libs don't like that either, huh?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Well. If we're going with we don't know why the kids are crying, how do we know it has anything to do with this lunch at all?

Mary Zombie · Guru

People are too worried about what everyone else is doing. If a few are concerned about something even though it's nunya business then everyone else has to change?
Um no.