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So, if it was a LGBT group handing out free food and pushing their agenda, you'd be fine with it?
How about a Muslim group handing out free burgers and pushing Islam?
What about an Atheist group handing out chicken nuggets and telling kids religion is a sham?

Still nobody's business and people should butt out?


It's a public park.

The school doesn't own it.

The school should butt out.

As for your other examples....it's a pubic park.

Any one, LGBT, Muslim, Atheist, can use a public park.

 


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weltschmerz wrote:

I suspect that atheists trying to lure and recruit 500 high school kids a day with free food would be a huge issue for some.
You can pretend that parents would be fine with it, but we all know that it would bug the hell out of them, and they'd try to put a stop to it.
Let's be honest, here.


 First. Free will. These are high school students. If their parent hasn't laid the foundation by then, they haven't done their job.

Second. It isn't every day. It's once a week.

Three. It's a public park. Go lease it and bring food and have at it.

 



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At this point, it's become the north-going Zax vs. the south-going Zax and neither is going to budge.

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Why does anyone need to budge?

This is none of the school's business. Period.

If the school is allowed to close this down, claim jurisdiction over the public park, how long until they are allowed jurisdiction in the student's home?

THIS is one of those slopes we need to stay off.

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flan327 wrote:

At this point, it's become the north-going Zax vs. the south-going Zax and neither is going to budge.

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 Why do the moms need to budge? Everything they are doing is 100% legal. The school doesn't have control of the park. 



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lilyofcourse wrote:
chef wrote:
Fort Worth Mom wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:

So, if it was a LGBT group handing out free food and pushing their agenda, you'd be fine with it?
How about a Muslim group handing out free burgers and pushing Islam?
What about an Atheist group handing out chicken nuggets and telling kids religion is a sham?

Still nobody's business and people should butt out?


It's a public park.

The school doesn't own it.

The school should butt out.

As for your other examples....it's a pubic park.

Any one, LGBT, Muslim, Atheist, can use a public park.

 


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 It's IRRELEVANT as to whether any one person or group of people would be "fine" with anything.  It is still not under the school's jurisdiction.  



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If it's off campus, it isn't their business either way. So "non denominational" is somehow OK but Catholic or Methodist is not? Oh ok.
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I didn't say it was the school's business. It was my personal hope that it would be non-denominational. I'd hate for the message of Jesus to get lost in the politics of incompatible denominations such as Catholicism vs. Protestantism, where one has Saints and Confession and the other doesn't. Especially when it comes to kids that are just learning.

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If it's off campus, it isn't their business either way. So "non denominational" is somehow OK but Catholic or Methodist is not? Oh ok.
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I didn't say it was the school's business. It was my personal hope that it would be non-denominational. I'd hate for the message of Jesus to get lost in the politics of incompatible denominations such as Catholicism vs. Protestantism, where one has Saints and Confession and the other doesn't. Especially when it comes to kids that are just learning.


 The parents can decide if they want their kids to go.  It's not mandatory.  I would not send my kids to a non-denominational anything.  



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The parents can decide if they want their kids to go. It's not mandatory. I would not send my kids to a non-denominational anything.
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That may or may not be true that the parents can decide. What if a kid doesn't tell his parents he's going to go to the Jesus Lunch? What if his parents said he's allowed off school property so he can go to Burger King or wherever, but he goes there instead? Did his parents decide, or did he?

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The parents can decide if they want their kids to go. It's not mandatory. I would not send my kids to a non-denominational anything.
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That may or may not be true that the parents can decide. What if a kid doesn't tell his parents he's going to go to the Jesus Lunch? What if his parents said he's allowed off school property so he can go to Burger King or wherever, but he goes there instead? Did his parents decide, or did he?


 If the kid doesn't tell his parents--then that is an issue between the kid and parents.  It has NOTHING to do with the group that is putting the event on. It's not their responsibility to police that.  



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It has NOTHING to do with the group that is putting the event on. It's not their responsibility to police that.
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I never said it was. You said:

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The parents can decide if they want their kids to go.
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I was just pointing out that you were wrong about the parents having a say-so if the parents don't know if the kid is going or not.

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WYSIWYG wrote:

It has NOTHING to do with the group that is putting the event on. It's not their responsibility to police that.
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I never said it was. You said:

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The parents can decide if they want their kids to go.
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I was just pointing out that you were wrong about the parents having a say-so if the parents don't know if the kid is going or not.


 The group putting it in does NOT have to consider that in the least.  Not their problem.



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FTR - Muslim and Satanists parents have every right to meet their kids for lunch in a public park and have whatever discussions and prayer they want, too. I doubt as many other students are going to want to join them, but if they do, that's none of the school's business, either.

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FTR - Muslim and Satanists parents have every right to meet their kids for lunch in a public park and have whatever discussions and prayer they want, too. I doubt as many other students are going to want to join them, but if they do, that's none of the school's business, either.


 Oh I agree.  Just because an individual doesn't agree with something is no reason to ban it.  



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huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

FTR - Muslim and Satanists parents have every right to meet their kids for lunch in a public park and have whatever discussions and prayer they want, too. I doubt as many other students are going to want to join them, but if they do, that's none of the school's business, either.


 Oh I agree.  Just because an individual doesn't agree with something is no reason to ban it.  


 Heck yeah.  In fact, the porn stars can meet there, too.  Oh, wait..... public indecency and sex are BANNED.



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huskerbb wrote:
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FTR - Muslim and Satanists parents have every right to meet their kids for lunch in a public park and have whatever discussions and prayer they want, too. I doubt as many other students are going to want to join them, but if they do, that's none of the school's business, either.


 Oh I agree.  Just because an individual doesn't agree with something is no reason to ban it.  


 Heck yeah.  In fact, the porn stars can meet there, too.  Oh, wait..... public indecency and sex are BANNED.


 P0rn isn't in public.  



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