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Yes, the civil war just magically happened after no actions by anybody, and "poof" slavery ended.


 No actions by anyone???  WTF are you babbling about?  Thousands of dead and maimed veterans would have disagreed that they took no actions.  


 Really, Husker?  Are you that incapable of sensing sarcasm?



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He uses that "what are you babbling about" when he knows he's wrong and doesn't want to admit it.

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He uses that "what are you babbling about" when he knows he's wrong and doesn't want to admit it.


 I'm not wrong.  For those ignorant of history, thousands of union troops were killed before slavery ended.



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No one said nobody died but you pretending all that happened up until the Civil War had nothing to do with ending slavery you are not even as smart as I think you are, never mind being how smart you think you are.

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No one said nobody died but you pretending all that happened up until the Civil War had nothing to do with ending slavery you are not even as smart as I think you are, never mind being how smart you think you are.


 The main thing that happened up to that point was Lincolns election.  



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The subject was women and what they have done.



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No one said nobody died but you pretending all that happened up until the Civil War had nothing to do with ending slavery you are not even as smart as I think you are, never mind being how smart you think you are.


 The main thing that happened up to that point was Lincolns election.  


 See when you're wrong you just pretend we're having a different debate than we actually are. You love to argue that much...lol



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The subject was women and what they have done.


 But that is why this is PC nonsense.  

 

There is NO DOUBT that Andrew Jackson--love him or hate him--did a LOT for this young nation as its 7th president.  

 

Tubman simply did not do as much.  That is simply a fact.

 

its a comparison between those two because one is replacing the other.



-- Edited by huskerbb on Thursday 21st of April 2016 02:41:18 PM

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No one said nobody died but you pretending all that happened up until the Civil War had nothing to do with ending slavery you are not even as smart as I think you are, never mind being how smart you think you are.


 The main thing that happened up to that point was Lincolns election.  


 See when you're wrong you just pretend we're having a different debate than we actually are. You love to argue that much...lol


 I'm not wrong.  



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Yes you are if you don't believe lot's of things led up to the Civil War. But now you'll just change the argument to make yourself feel superior.

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Yes you are if you don't believe lot's of things led up to the Civil War. But now you'll just change the argument to make yourself feel superior.


 I never said otherwise, but the main one was Lincolns election.  

 



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But that wasn't even the discussion. You changed it to that just so you could be right. Lot's of people think she was a good choice but because YOU don't we must all just be wrong.

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huskerbb wrote:
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The subject was women and what they have done.


 But that is why this is PC nonsense.  

 

There is NO DOUBT that Andrew Jackson--love him or hate him--did a LOT for this young nation as its 7th president.  

 

Tubman simply did not do as much.  That is simply a fact.

 

its a comparison between those two because one is replacing the other.



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 And you ignore the fact that as a black woman she never had the opportunity to get elected president, and what she did do was great considering ALL the factors, and not just the obvious "he was a president".



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The subject was women and what they have done.


 But that is why this is PC nonsense.  

 

There is NO DOUBT that Andrew Jackson--love him or hate him--did a LOT for this young nation as its 7th president.  

 

Tubman simply did not do as much.  That is simply a fact.

 

its a comparison between those two because one is replacing the other.



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 And you ignore the fact that as a black woman she never had the opportunity to get elected president, and what she did do was great considering ALL the factors, and not just the obvious "he was a president".


 I never said what she did wasn't "great".  What I said was that it wasn't nearly as much as Jackson. 



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But that wasn't even the discussion. You changed it to that just so you could be right. Lot's of people think she was a good choice but because YOU don't we must all just be wrong.


 Lots of people also think she was not a good choice and they should have picked someone else, and lots of people think it shouldn't have been changed.  

Just because YOU think it should be changed, then we must all be wrong.



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huskerbb wrote:
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The subject was women and what they have done.


 But that is why this is PC nonsense.  

 

There is NO DOUBT that Andrew Jackson--love him or hate him--did a LOT for this young nation as its 7th president.  

 

Tubman simply did not do as much.  That is simply a fact.

 

its a comparison between those two because one is replacing the other.



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 And you ignore the fact that as a black woman she never had the opportunity to get elected president, and what she did do was great considering ALL the factors, and not just the obvious "he was a president".


 I never said what she did wasn't "great".  What I said was that it wasn't nearly as much as Jackson. 


 And you ignore that what she managed to do, she did while oppressed.  You have repeatedly belittled her accomplishments.

And since women were considered property (especially black women) with no right vote or anything else, they shouldn't have to have been president to get recognized as great accomplished Americans.



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But that wasn't even the discussion. You changed it to that just so you could be right. Lot's of people think she was a good choice but because YOU don't we must all just be wrong.


 Lots of people also think she was not a good choice and they should have picked someone else, and lots of people think it shouldn't have been changed.  

Just because YOU think it should be changed, then we must all be wrong.


 Well, too bad, so sad for you, because it is being changed.



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The only one out of all the people on this board who's arguing that it's a bad idea is you husker. So who are all these other people who think she was a bad choice?

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Lawyerlady wrote:
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The subject was women and what they have done.


 But that is why this is PC nonsense.  

 

There is NO DOUBT that Andrew Jackson--love him or hate him--did a LOT for this young nation as its 7th president.  

 

Tubman simply did not do as much.  That is simply a fact.

 

its a comparison between those two because one is replacing the other.



-- Edited by huskerbb on Thursday 21st of April 2016 02:41:18 PM


 And you ignore the fact that as a black woman she never had the opportunity to get elected president, and what she did do was great considering ALL the factors, and not just the obvious "he was a president".


 I never said what she did wasn't "great".  What I said was that it wasn't nearly as much as Jackson. 


 And you ignore that what she managed to do, she did while oppressed.  You have repeatedly belittled her accomplishments.

And since women were considered property (especially black women) with no right vote or anything else, they shouldn't have to have been president to get recognized as great accomplished Americans.


 She can be recognized as such--in some other fashion.



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The only one out of all the people on this board who's arguing that it's a bad idea is you husker. So who are all these other people who think she was a bad choice?


 Open your eyes.  Donald trump is one.  There are many others speaking out in the media on this.



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The subject was women and what they have done.


 But that is why this is PC nonsense.  

 

There is NO DOUBT that Andrew Jackson--love him or hate him--did a LOT for this young nation as its 7th president.  

 

Tubman simply did not do as much.  That is simply a fact.

 

its a comparison between those two because one is replacing the other.



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 And you ignore the fact that as a black woman she never had the opportunity to get elected president, and what she did do was great considering ALL the factors, and not just the obvious "he was a president".


 I never said what she did wasn't "great".  What I said was that it wasn't nearly as much as Jackson. 


 And you ignore that what she managed to do, she did while oppressed.  You have repeatedly belittled her accomplishments.

And since women were considered property (especially black women) with no right vote or anything else, they shouldn't have to have been president to get recognized as great accomplished Americans.


 She can be recognized as such--in some other fashion.


 Throw her on the dime!



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I think she was a bad choice. Honor her some other way. Don't put her on money. Don't change the money. Why? What's the purpose?

DH thinks it's fine to replace the head of the democratic party with a founding member of the Republican party (Tubman). I guess there's that....but I just think it's an example of some kind of political correctness crap. Oh, can't have someone on the bill who put Indians in a camp. Just like we can't have the confederate flag around.

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I think it's a way to honor a very brave woman and every other bill has a rich white mans face on it. Is it so bad that they change one to a woman?

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Changing currency is nothing new. We change the design, we change the color. We even replace the images.

I don't have a problem with it.

She's as deserving as anyone else...

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I think it's a way to honor a very brave woman and every other bill has a rich white mans face on it. Is it so bad that they change one to a woman?


 I like rich white men.



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History is long. We can occasionally change things to honor others in history.

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The only one out of all the people on this board who's arguing that it's a bad idea is you husker. So who are all these other people who think she was a bad choice?


 Open your eyes.  Donald trump is one.  There are many others speaking out in the media on this.


 Well, THAT says it all now.

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husker,

You can send me all your new $20 bills. Problem solved.

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And she is NOT the only woman who is being honored.

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I love Eleanor Roosevelt. I had her as my signature for awhile. Might be time to bring her back.....

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huskerbb wrote:
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The subject was women and what they have done.


 But that is why this is PC nonsense.  

 

There is NO DOUBT that Andrew Jackson--love him or hate him--did a LOT for this young nation as its 7th president.  

 

Tubman simply did not do as much.  That is simply a fact.

 

its a comparison between those two because one is replacing the other.



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 No.

It is in preparation for the 100th anniversary of women's right to vote.

That is why the target launch is 2020.

I gotta say, your opinion of women is shining bright on this thread.

There has been talk of changing the pictures on money for a long time.

This isn't new.

And yes, Harriet Tubman did a lot of good.

It isn't about who did more during that time.

It's about whIch woman will be honored for her achievements.

So get that male chauvinistic stick out of your butt.



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The subject was women and what they have done.


 But that is why this is PC nonsense.  

 

There is NO DOUBT that Andrew Jackson--love him or hate him--did a LOT for this young nation as its 7th president.  

 

Tubman simply did not do as much.  That is simply a fact.

 

its a comparison between those two because one is replacing the other.



-- Edited by huskerbb on Thursday 21st of April 2016 02:41:18 PM


Yeah, like almost wiping out a complete race of people.  We used to have to go to his house on field trips every other year or so.  It always bothered me that that was never addressed...



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I think it's a way to honor a very brave woman and every other bill has a rich white mans face on it. Is it so bad that they change one to a woman?


 I like rich white men.


 Actually so do I...lol. But I don't think I look at whose on the bill when I'm spending it.



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The subject was women and what they have done.


 But that is why this is PC nonsense.  

 

There is NO DOUBT that Andrew Jackson--love him or hate him--did a LOT for this young nation as its 7th president.  

 

Tubman simply did not do as much.  That is simply a fact.

 

its a comparison between those two because one is replacing the other.



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Yeah, like almost wiping out a complete race of people.  We used to have to go to his house on field trips every other year or so.  It always bothered me that that was never addressed...


 He was a man of his time so I don't think I'll judge him with my own sensibilities. With all the anti-Americanism I'd still rather live here than any where else in the world. This is why honoring her is a good thing. She did what she thought was right in the only way she could.



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The only one out of all the people on this board who's arguing that it's a bad idea is you husker. So who are all these other people who think she was a bad choice?


 Open your eyes.  Donald trump is one.  There are many others speaking out in the media on this.


She's not pretty enough for Trump.

Has to be a supermodel. A young supermodel. 



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The subject was women and what they have done.


 But that is why this is PC nonsense.  

 

There is NO DOUBT that Andrew Jackson--love him or hate him--did a LOT for this young nation as its 7th president.  

 

Tubman simply did not do as much.  That is simply a fact.

 

its a comparison between those two because one is replacing the other.



-- Edited by huskerbb on Thursday 21st of April 2016 02:41:18 PM


Yeah, like almost wiping out a complete race of people.  We used to have to go to his house on field trips every other year or so.  It always bothered me that that was never addressed...


 He was a man of his time so I don't think I'll judge him with my own sensibilities. With all the anti-Americanism I'd still rather live here than any where else in the world. This is why honoring her is a good thing. She did what she thought was right in the only way she could.


 So was Hitler. They both almost succeeded wiping out a whole race...



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Oh yes. I do agree with that. You make my point that she deserves the honor more than Jackson.

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The subject was women and what they have done.


 But that is why this is PC nonsense.  

 

There is NO DOUBT that Andrew Jackson--love him or hate him--did a LOT for this young nation as its 7th president.  

 

Tubman simply did not do as much.  That is simply a fact.

 

its a comparison between those two because one is replacing the other.



-- Edited by huskerbb on Thursday 21st of April 2016 02:41:18 PM


 No.

It is in preparation for the 100th anniversary of women's right to vote.

That is why the target launch is 2020.

I gotta say, your opinion of women is shining bright on this thread.

There has been talk of changing the pictures on money for a long time.

This isn't new.

And yes, Harriet Tubman did a lot of good.

It isn't about who did more during that time.

It's about whIch woman will be honored for her achievements.

So get that male chauvinistic stick out of your butt.


 ????  Tubman was not involve in getting women the right to vote.  If that is the issue here--women like Susan B. Anthony would have been a much better choice.

 

However, your entire premise is BS.  It is absolutely a comparison--and there is none.  Jackson is many times more deserving, and has been since he appeared on the bill.  



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The subject was women and what they have done.


 But that is why this is PC nonsense.  

 

There is NO DOUBT that Andrew Jackson--love him or hate him--did a LOT for this young nation as its 7th president.  

 

Tubman simply did not do as much.  That is simply a fact.

 

its a comparison between those two because one is replacing the other.



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Yeah, like almost wiping out a complete race of people.  We used to have to go to his house on field trips every other year or so.  It always bothered me that that was never addressed...


 And Washington and Jefferson owned slaves, blah, blah, blah.

You are making my point that this is a BS move made for ONLY politically correct nonsense reasons because people want to rewrite history based on the PC lens of how we view things today.  

Thomas Jefferson undoubtedly did more than any other president towards wiping out the Native American culture in this nation--but he is still generally revered.  

Jackson was a good president for this young nation.  He took on the national bank.  He expanded the nation. He kept the nation from splitting at a time when a Civil War would undoubtedly not have resulted in the end of slavery, anyway. 



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would have chosen mary edwards walker--the only woman ever awarded the MOH for her actions in an armed conflict



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its just stuoid to replace a major player in the history of our nation with one that is not.
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I could agree with that. I don't see how that applies in this instance however, because Harriet Tubman was a major player in the history of our nation.

I'd understand the outrage if they wanted to put Jane Smith of 123 Main Street, Anytown, Anystate on the bill.

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I could agree with that. I don't see how that applies in this instance however, because Harriet Tubman was a major player in the history of our nation.

I'd understand the outrage if they wanted to put Jane Smith of 123 Main Street, Anytown, Anystate on the bill.


 But comparatively, there is no doubt Jackson accomplished more.



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You can't compare a rich white man's accomplishments with that of a black female slave. That's asinine.

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You can't compare a rich white man's accomplishments with that of a black female slave. That's asinine.


 Then why not put Jane at 123 street on the bill if it has nothing to do with accomplishments?  

 

It's absolutely a comparison.  It's about who had more of an effect on this nation.



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I'm just really glad they didn't choose Margaret Sanger.

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huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

The subject was women and what they have done.


 But that is why this is PC nonsense.  

 

There is NO DOUBT that Andrew Jackson--love him or hate him--did a LOT for this young nation as its 7th president.  

 

Tubman simply did not do as much.  That is simply a fact.

 

its a comparison between those two because one is replacing the other.



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 No.

It is in preparation for the 100th anniversary of women's right to vote.

That is why the target launch is 2020.

I gotta say, your opinion of women is shining bright on this thread.

There has been talk of changing the pictures on money for a long time.

This isn't new.

And yes, Harriet Tubman did a lot of good.

It isn't about who did more during that time.

It's about whIch woman will be honored for her achievements.

So get that male chauvinistic stick out of your butt.


 ????  Tubman was not involve in getting women the right to vote.  If that is the issue here--women like Susan B. Anthony would have been a much better choice.

 

However, your entire premise is BS.  It is absolutely a comparison--and there is none.  Jackson is many times more deserving, and has been since he appeared on the bill.  


 I know Tubman had nothing to do with women's right to vote.

You are dense.

Susan B. Anthony has a coin already.

So does Sacajawea.

They are changing all the money.

Elenor Roosevelt and Martin Luther King Jr are going to be on other bills.

 



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AND $5!

America’s currency is a statement about who we are as a nation. Our modern money honors our history and celebrates our values. Building on tremendous feedback from Americans across our country about the theme of democracy, the Treasury Department will create new design concepts for the $20, $10, and $5 dollar notes.

The New $20

$20 Bill Icon

The front of the new $20 will feature the portrait of Harriet Tubman, whose life was dedicated to fighting for liberty. The reverse of the new $20 will depict the White House and an image of President Andrew Jackson.

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The New $10

$10 Bill Icon

The new $10 will celebrate the history of the women’s suffrage movement, and feature images of Lucretia MottSojourner Truth,Susan B. AnthonyElizabeth Cady Stanton, and Alice Paul, alongside the Treasury building. The front of the new $10 will retain the portrait of Alexander Hamilton.

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The New $5

$5 Bill Icon

The new $5 will honor historic events that occurred at the Lincoln Memorial in service of our democracy, and will feature Martin Luther King, Jr.Marian Anderson, and Eleanor Roosevelt. The front of the new $5 will retain the portrait of President Lincoln.

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Here's the link

https://modernmoney.treasury.gov/

 



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