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Police release horrific dashcam footage of a stolen car chase with three teen girls moments before they crashed and drowned in a pond 

  • Police dashcam footage shows final moments before car crashes in pond
  • Footage shows police in a car chase with teenagers 15-year-old Laniya Miller, 15-year-old Ashaunti Butler and 16-year-old Dominique Battle
  • Girls' attorney is questioning law enforcement statements after footage shows them not attempting to help the three teens
  • Sheriff's office said deputies handled the situation by the book and 'just because it's not on cam doesn't mean it didn't happen'
  • The teens drowned March 31 when car they stole went into a pond and trapped them inside, authorities said
  • Sheriff says the pond's water was so murky that police could not find the car; divers later found it in 15 feet of water

 

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Police have released horrific dashcam footage of a stolen car chase involving three teen girls from Florida moments before they crashed and drowned in a pond. 

The footage, released by the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office, shows deputies in a car chase with the teenagers, aged 15 and 16, who were driving in a Honda Accord they had allegedly stolen, according to ABC News

In the video, which does not show the full incident, police can be seen pursuing the vehicle before the chase ends in a marshy pond at the Royal Palm cemetery, where 15-year-old Laniya Miller, 15-year-old Ashaunti Butler and 16-year-old Dominique Battle drowned. 

 
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Police have released horrific dashcam footage of a stolen car chase involving three teen girls from Florida moments before they crashed and drowned in a pond

Police have released horrific dashcam footage of a stolen car chase involving three teen girls from Florida moments before they crashed and drowned in a pond

The footage, released by the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office, shows deputies in a car chase with the teenagers, aged 15 and 16, who were driving in a Honda Accord they had allegedly stolen

The footage, released by the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office, shows deputies in a car chase with the teenagers, aged 15 and 16, who were driving in a Honda Accord they had allegedly stolen

Since the release of the video, the officers' statements about trying to assist the girls has been questioned. As the Sheriff's office maintains their position that the officers tried to enter the pond to save the girls, but the video only shows them standing near the pond (pictured)

Since the release of the video, the officers' statements about trying to assist the girls has been questioned. As the Sheriff's office maintains their position that the officers tried to enter the pond to save the girls, but the video only shows them standing near the pond (pictured)

'It's about two feet of the trunk left and it's going to be completely under,' one of the deputies said in the footage. 'It's going all the way down.'

'They're done. They're six, seven deep. I hear them yelling I think,' a deputy says. 

The girls' lawyer, Will Anderson, told ABC News that he has questions about law enforcement statements. He said his team is in the 'process of reviewing everything'. 

Anderson added that his belief is that the incident has 'been a rush to judgment' resulting in a 'smear campaign'.

On the other hand, Sheriff Bob Gualtieri told ABC that deputies did everything by the book, even attempting to save the girls' lives after their car plunged into the pond.

He said he wasn't 'going to stand by and let these people cast a false narrative' adding that because the pond was 'thick with sludge', it was difficult for officers to get to the teens.

Since the release of the video, the officers' statements about trying to assist the girls has been questioned, according to ABC. 

Laniya Miller, 15, of St Petersburg, pictured, is one one of the deceased teens identified by police
Ashaunti Butler, 15, of St Petersburg, pictured, was also one of the teens found dead in the car submerged in the pond
 

Police said the teenage girls stole a car in a Walmart parking lot on March 31, and evaded law enforcement who were pursuing them in the allegedly stolen vehicle. Pictured are 15-year-old Laniya Miller (left) and 15-year-old Ashaunti Butler (right)

A dive team located the vehicle about 60 yards into the pond. They were able to secure a tow line and pull the vehicle out (pictured) but were unable to see anything due to poor visibility

A dive team located the vehicle about 60 yards into the pond. They were able to secure a tow line and pull the vehicle out (pictured) but were unable to see anything due to poor visibility

Sheriff Bob Gualtieri says the driver of the Honda Accord apparently missed a sharp turn near a cemetery and went into the water near St Petersburg around 4am on March 31. The car pictured after it plunged into the pond

Sheriff Bob Gualtieri says the driver of the Honda Accord apparently missed a sharp turn near a cemetery and went into the water near St Petersburg around 4am on March 31. The car pictured after it plunged into the pond

As the Sheriff's office maintains their position that the officers tried to enter the pond to save the girls, but the video only shows them standing near the pond.

'The officers got in the pond and just because it's not on cam doesn't mean it didn't happen,' Gualtieri said.


Dominique Battle, 16, of St Petersburg was one of the three teens who drowned in the March incident

 

A dive team located the vehicle about 60 yards into the pond.

Police say the teenage girls stole a car in a Walmart parking lot on March 31, and evaded law enforcement who were pursuing them in the allegedly stolen vehicle. 

'They've been arrested seven times in the last year on just auto theft charges,' Gualtieri said. 'These are not good kids. These are kids who are heavily engaged in criminal activity. I didn't make it up. I didn't make it up that at 4 o'clock in the morning they were driving a stolen car.' 

'My daughter was not perfect,' Natasha Winkler, mother of Laniya Miller, one of the girls who drowned, told WFTS. 'What 15-year-old is?'

Gualtieri says the driver of the Honda Accord apparently missed a sharp turn near a cemetery and went into the water near St. Petersburg around 4am on March 31.

Gualtieri says a deputy spotted the car driving without headlights and tried to stop it before the driver fled, eventually running a red light.

The deputies were not actively chasing the car and did not have their emergency lights on, Gualtieri said. 

The sheriff says the pond's water was so murky that police could not find the car. 

Gualtieri said the vehicle had its windows rolled up and doors closed.

'That car became a death chamber for those girls,' he said during a news conference in March.

Divers later found the car, stolen in St Petersburg the night before, in 15 feet of water, according to Gualtieri. 

The sheriff said the owner of the car, 35-year-old Damian Marriott, told police he was going to give the girls a ride to a nearby Child's Park.

On the way there, he stopped at a Walmart to buy a television, leaving the car running, and when he came outside, the girls had taken off with the car, Gualtieri said.

Hours later, the car was spotted driving with its lights off but police decided not to pursue when they could not pull it over, Gualtieri said.

 

 
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Gualtieri says a deputy spotted the car driving without headlights and tried to stop it before the driver fled, eventually running a red light and leading up to their tragic deaths


Gualtieri (pictured during a news conference) said deputies did everything by the book, even attempting to save the girls' lives after their car plunged into the pond. He said he wasn't 'going to stand by and let these people cast a false narrative' adding that it was difficult for officers to get to the teens

 

The vehicle then continued and was seen going through a stoplight, according to police.

Another deputy in an unmarked car later spotted the vehicle and confirmed it was the car stolen out of St Petersburg, police said.

The deputy monitored the car from a distance. 

Later, the deputies spotted the car in a cemetery and followed it but did not give chase, he said.

Then the deputies saw the car go into a pond inside the cemetery at about 35mph, he said.

'They tried to get in there and rescue those girls, and they just couldn't do it,' Gualtieri said.

It is against department policy to actively pursue a nonviolent offender, he said.

Juvenile crime, especially grand theft auto, has been skyrocketing in recent years in St. Petersburg, Gualtieri said.

The three teens had, between them, seven arrests in just a year - most of them for grand theft auto, he said.

'On the eighth time, they died,' Gualtieri said. 'Unless we do something different, we will continue to see more lives lost. Three dead teenagers is not acceptable.'



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3549019/Police-release-horrific-dashcam-footage-stolen-car-chase-three-teen-girls-moments-crashed-drowned-pond.html#ixzz46PhFYDmI 
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'My daughter was not perfect,' Natasha Winkler, mother of Laniya Miller, one of the girls who drowned, told WFTS. 'What 15-year-old is?'


I have to say, nobody is perfect, but most 15 year old girls have never been arrested even once, let alone 7 times in a year. Mom - you were part of the problem.

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Well, this wasn't some nice clear lake. This was an alligator infested swamp. I mean, look at the shots of the pond covered plants and the car when it was pulled out. Who could go in there at night and swim through that? That isn't possible. They had the option to pull over when the police pursued or not steal a car in the first place. It is a sad and tragic lesson.

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Of course, this is totally the police and government's fault. Those girls should have been locked up in juvie.

 

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it's florida, in the dark, in the swamp, sixty yards from the shore in about 15 feet of water--would be damned difficult for even the best equipped, most proficient rescue crew around to reach the car before the occupants drowned--at least the beat cops tried--kudos to them


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Os NOBODY else bother by the 35 year old man tbat was giving these girls a ride?!?!?

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And, they are out at 4 am. on a Thursday. Where were the parents?

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There is a lot of fail here, but not on the police officers who couldn't rescue them.

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A tragic loss and I feel bad for the families. BUT, the girls should have been home, in their beds at 4 in the morning on a Thursday.

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Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:

Os NOBODY else bother by the 35 year old man tbat was giving these girls a ride?!?!?


 There is not enough information to show he was doing anything wrong.  Heck, he didn't kidnap them, he left them alone in his running vehicle.  He may, in fact, have just been giving them a ride home. 



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I mean, look at the debris and plants covering the car. Nobody can swim in that. Supposedly, the way to survive is to open the windows and escape through the window. If they tried to open the doors, that would not be possible. I carry one of those life hammers in my car in case i would have break a window. If that doesn't work, once the car is under and fills with water, at some point the pressure will equalize and you will be able to open the door. Of course you only have a few minutes at the most in order to do all of this.

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15 feet is pretty deep. You'd have to be a darn good swimmer to even get that far down--let alone be able to do anything once you got there--and that's IF you could even find it.

It's hard to tell exactly what "efforts" were made, but it's very dubious whether in 15 feet any efforts could have saved them unless the F.D. with experienced swimmers and divers was immediately on scene.

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By age 15, my kids had had repeated instructions on how to escape from a submerged car. Mine would have gotten out.

Also, mine would not have been inside a stolen car in the first place.

To me, all the responsibility is shared by these teenage criminals and their parents.

 



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So, my question is - before blaming these cops for not jumping into a cold, deep, muck filled, pond in the middle of the night, did anyone bother to ask them if they could swim?

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The responsibility lies firmly with the girls & their parents.

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The responsibility lies firmly with the girls & their parents.


 I agree.  

 

 

My comment was to point out the knee-jerk reaction of "why didn't these cops save them?"



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Lawyerlady wrote:
Lexxy wrote:

The responsibility lies firmly with the girls & their parents.


 I agree.  

 

 

My comment was to point out the knee-jerk reaction of "why didn't these cops save them?"


I just happened to post right after you.  I wasn't responding to your question. But I totally agree about the stupid knee jerk reaction of why didn't they save them.

I wonder if it is a requirement that law enforcement officials need to know how to swim.  I've never really thought about it before.  I just assume everyone over the age of 5 knows how to swim.  I know assumptions & all but I don't know anyone who doesn't know how to swim.  Not that that means they should jump into a gator infested swamp.



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Lexxy wrote:
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The responsibility lies firmly with the girls & their parents.


 I agree.  

 

 

My comment was to point out the knee-jerk reaction of "why didn't these cops save them?"


I just happened to post right after you.  I wasn't responding to your question. But I totally agree about the stupid knee jerk reaction of why didn't they save them.

I wonder if it is a requirement that law enforcement officials need to know how to swim.  I've never really thought about it before.  I just assume everyone over the age of 5 knows how to swim.  I know assumptions & all but I don't know anyone who doesn't know how to swim.  Not that that means they should jump into a gator infested swamp.


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It is boggling that the parents are not accepting any responsibility at all. I mean most kids are in bed at that time of morning. not our stealing cars.

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It is boggling that the parents are not accepting any responsibility at all. I mean most kids are in bed at that time of morning. not our stealing cars.


After being arrested 7 times.  My parents would have locked me in my room & never let me speak to the other two girls again the first time it happened.  I'm pretty sure they would have asked the judge for additional community service too.



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I think no matter what anyone in a situation like this did, or was doing, the police have some duty to try to save them.

However, I just don't think that in this case there was a lot they could do. 15 feet is deep, even if they could have found the car, which in and of itself could have taken longer than they had to live--it's still not a given they could have got it open and effected a rescue in that deep of water.

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The car was 60 feet into the water/swamp which was literally covered with water lillies and other stringy heavy plants. Nobody can wade through that at night, swim through that and do a water rescue in police gear. The only real thing they could do was call for help and water rescue. This isnt like diving into a pool or clear lake. Going in under those conditions at night would have put them in real danger as well. Crime doesn't pay. This is very tragic and sad and just plain stupid. But, in no way are the Police at fault.

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BTW, can every policeman swim? We dont' even know that do we? Is water rescue part of their training? The Police risk their lives every day, but this is not a situation where they could have done anything differently. Everyone wants the Police to "do something". Why didnt' the parents "do something" in the first place so this situation didn't even arise?

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