Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Toilets. Bathrooms.
Toilette. Salles de bain.

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Bathrooms?  You don't bathe in there.  That's as "wrong" as restroom... 

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 People have been known to bathe in the sink, like the homeless. Or hookers.  I've never seen anyone napping in there.

weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Toilets. Bathrooms.
Toilette. Salles de bain.

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Bathrooms?  You don't bathe in there.  That's as "wrong" as restroom... 

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 People have been known to bathe in the sink, like the homeless. Or hookers.  I've never seen anyone napping in there.

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Rest doesn't mean sleep.  I rest on the toilet all the time...It's a great place to hide out from the kids... 

An Open Letter to Target: Regarding your New Restroom Policy

To Whom It May Concern:

I am a woman. I am a frequent shopper in your stores. I am first and foremost a mother. Your recent change in policy of who you allow to use each restroom concerns me. You stated in your blog post, “We believe that everyone…deserves to be protected from discrimination and treated equally.” and “…you’ll always be accepted, respected, and welcomed at Target.” As a business owner, I do understand your right to make a stance as a company. As a parent, I will never understand why you would trade the safety of our women and children for the sake of not hurting  feelings.

I realize that everyone needs to feel accepted, loved, and wanted. I know the struggles of a person struggling to find their identity. I also know that as of September 2012, a Gallup poll showed that approximately 3.4% of Americans identify as gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender. If, for argument’s sake, we assume that those groups are of equal representation in that number, that would indicate that of the American population, only 0.85% of Americans identify as transgender.

Let’s also look at other statistics, taken from RAINN.ORG:

1 in 6 women will be the victim of attempted or completed rape in her lifetime.

1 in 9 girls under 18 have REPORTED being the victim of sexual assault.

1 in 53 boys under 18 have REPORTED being the victim of sexual assault.

These numbers factor out to being 16.67% of women, 11.11% of girls, and 1.89% of boys.

If anyone is allowed to “claim” an identity of a gender not their own, they will have unlimited access to anyone they so choose. A woman could claim to “identify as a man” and YOUR little boy could become 1 in 9 in an instant. A man could claim to “identity as a woman” and have instant access to myself and my daughters. BAM. I am 1 in 6 and my little girls are 1 in 9.

You have taken the FEELINGS of LESS THAN ONE PERCENT of our population into account  and in one swift statement told the entire country that the safety of our vulnerable women and children is of no concern to you or your staff.

I have questions:

How can you ensure that the people entering the restrooms of the opposite gender are, indeed, of the “gender persuasion” they are currently claiming to identify with?

Are you willing to send your wives and daughters into a restroom that is occupied by another man and trust that he is who he says he is? How about your son with a  woman?

How should I handle an instance where my two and four year olds see a man’s private parts and I have to explain a) why she saw his genitals and b) why is in a women’s restroom long before they should ever have to consider such adult matters?

And, lastly:

WHY are you willing to forego the physical safety of the many to appease the internal struggle of the few?

I’ve never “boycotted” a company based on political views. However, I will refuse to use a company for the safety of my children.

Target, you have lost a loyal customer because you have betrayed my trust. My children’s safety comes first.

Cate

Momala wrote:

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I refuse to enter a Target ever again. I had a gift card, and spent $49.65 out of the $50.00 - and they refused - REFUSED - to give me the 35 cents in change! Noooooo - you have to use the remainder of the gift card on merchandise. They don't have anything else I want - so they cheated me out of $.35. It leaves a bad - very bad - taste in my mouth. Not so much the amount, but the principle behind the policy.

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 That is NOT company policy. At all. The cashier probably took your .35  When the balance goes under $5 I think (I can't remember if it's $5 or less than that) the register automatically opens so you can be given your change. Unless you got the gift card for returning an item without a reciept. 

Mellow Momma wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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I just unliked Target on Facebook. Take that! Hah!

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 Lol. I am sure they are crushed! 

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 I know.  But if enough people do it......

Ohfour wrote:

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Like I said....Target was all but empty today. The will feel the backlash.

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 Where you live, that's not surprising.

I think I'll go to Target tomorrow.

flan

Lawyerlady wrote:

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DH says if just I stop shopping at the local one, it will close for sure.

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 Hahaha!!!! We had a few customers like that in my old store. 

flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Like I said....Target was all but empty today. The will feel the backlash.

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 Where you live, that's not surprising.

I think I'll go to Target tomorrow.

flan

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 Can you afford it? I wouldn't want to break you....can I send you a few cents...

weltschmerz wrote:

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Toilets. Bathrooms.
Toilette. Salles de bain.

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 washroom at my end of the world.  You definitely wash in there - or at least you should.

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:

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Momala wrote:

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Mellow Momma ~
I took my gift card to the "Customer Service" counter, and they re-iterated what the cashier said: no cash back.
I STILL won't go back to them.

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 I believe their cards are like Starbucks and other stores where you can reload it but not get cash back.  Yeah, sucks.  I don't go to target much.  When DD was little it was a good place to get clothes for her that were inexpensive.

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 And they don't fall apart after you wear them once.

I may be addicted to their shoes: I have 4 pairs of Sam & Libby flats.

flan

Tignanello wrote:

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I can think of many many reasons to boycott target. Washrooms are the least of it. The crap they tried to pull in Canada is one reason.

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 Which was?

Lawyerlady wrote:

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Tignanello wrote:

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I can think of many many reasons to boycott target. Washrooms are the least of it. The crap they tried to pull in Canada is one reason.

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 They opened too many stores too quickly and brought in crappy merchandise.  It was nothing like the Targets in the US.  The stores were messy and poorly set up, there was junk everywhere.  The clothing was obviously manufactured in China and the hems were all crooked.  

They went bankrupt in the first 6 months.  It was terrible.

Tignanello wrote:

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Southern_Belle wrote:

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I think a bunch of women should march into the men's room dressed in Sunday best and stand at the mirror putting makeup and perfume on.

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 I use the men's room often - the women's line is often really long.  The problem is that the men's room usually stinks!  I don't want to put my makeup on in there!  Can you imagine the stench of a bunch of different perfumes mixed with men's public bathroom smell??

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 Well, get used to that.  Because now the men have the right to come in and stink up the women's room, too.