TOTALLY GEEKED!

weltschmerz wrote:

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You don't like me, either. Real emotions.

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 Or wisdom.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Funny how avowed atheists are so uncomfortable talking about death that they have to quickly flip the page and not explain her absence. How about "this is Grandma, she died when you were 10 months old". It is really that hard? Wow.

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 I agree completely. 

weltschmerz wrote:

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Meh. This isn't a popularity contest.
I find the Christians are just as angry at atheists. I'm just vastly outnumbered here.
Never the twain shall meet.

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 Angry at you because of your constant criticism and attacks.  It's only natural.  YOU are the common denominator.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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I ooze scepticism and disbelief.
You can interpret it as anger if you want to. No skin off my nose.

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 No.  It's more than that.  It's hate.  And for something to generate such hate, it must exist.

 

If that's not the case, then you need to re-examine why you do nothing but attack, attack, attack, when is comes to religion. 

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 Yup.  She's not railing against Spider man.

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FNW wrote:

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I'm not sure I ever told this story...I probably have, but this reminds me of it. When MIL was dying, we took the boys to the hospital to see her. I had never been to this hospital before, and neither had the boys. We got out of the car and walked up and #1 stopped. He looked up, and said, "oh, I've been here before. When I was invisible. They took me here to show me who my daddy was going to be." I asked when this was, and he said it was when Daddy was born." I looked at DH and he confirmed that he was born at that hospital.

My son's soul was here long before I was.

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 Jesse was about two when he first told someone I flushed a baby down the toilet.

 

I had lost a baby days after a positive pregnancy test.

 

That was 4 years before Jesse was born.

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 That's amazing.     It strengthens my beliefs.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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He should just tell his kid that his mother was a blob of tissue. And, that she was just a randomly created bunch of chemicals and neurons with no real significance. And, that since the soul doesnt' exist, she is now plant fertilizer. Atheists are big on truth.

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 #truth 

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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I ooze scepticism and disbelief.
You can interpret it as anger if you want to. No skin off my nose.

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 No.  It's more than that.  It's hate.  And for something to generate such hate, it must exist.

 

If that's not the case, then you need to re-examine why you do nothing but attack, attack, attack, when is comes to religion. 

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 Yup.  She's not railing against Spider man.

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As soon as Spiderman adherents try to indoctrinate our children, deny me my reproductive rights and a dignified death, tell me gays are perverts and insist that the nation should be ruled by the graphic novels, I'll rail.

Until then, I'll work with what I've got.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Wednesday 27th of April 2016 11:44:15 PM

weltschmerz wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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He should just tell his kid that his mother was a blob of tissue. And, that she was just a randomly created bunch of chemicals and neurons with no real significance. And, that since the soul doesnt' exist, she is now plant fertilizer. Atheists are big on truth.

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 With no real significance? What on earth are you blathering about now?

Our lives are VERY significant. It's the only one we get.

It's not a practice run to see if we'll qualify for the Heaven Olympics.

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The significance you ascribe is imaginary and meaningless.  You are nothing but a blob of chemical processes that think you have any relevance or significance.  You don't.  Well, at least according to your nihilistic beliefs.

weltschmerz wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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He should just tell his kid that his mother was a blob of tissue. And, that she was just a randomly created bunch of chemicals and neurons with no real significance. And, that since the soul doesnt' exist, she is now plant fertilizer. Atheists are big on truth.

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 With no real significance? What on earth are you blathering about now?

Our lives are VERY significant. It's the only one we get.

It's not a practice run to see if we'll qualify for the Heaven Olympics.

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 BS.  Very few lives are truLY significant.

Want to know how much the world will change when you are gone?  Stick your finger in a bucket of water.  When you pull it out, the hole that remains is how much significance you had.

huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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He should just tell his kid that his mother was a blob of tissue. And, that she was just a randomly created bunch of chemicals and neurons with no real significance. And, that since the soul doesnt' exist, she is now plant fertilizer. Atheists are big on truth.

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 With no real significance? What on earth are you blathering about now?

Our lives are VERY significant. It's the only one we get.

It's not a practice run to see if we'll qualify for the Heaven Olympics.

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 BS.  Very few lives are truLY significant.

 

Want to know how much the world will change when you are gone?  Stick your finger in a bucket of water.  When you pull it out, the hole that remains is how much significance you had.

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 You change the world one person at a time.

Usually in ways you least suspect...

flan

huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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He should just tell his kid that his mother was a blob of tissue. And, that she was just a randomly created bunch of chemicals and neurons with no real significance. And, that since the soul doesnt' exist, she is now plant fertilizer. Atheists are big on truth.

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 With no real significance? What on earth are you blathering about now?

Our lives are VERY significant. It's the only one we get.

It's not a practice run to see if we'll qualify for the Heaven Olympics.

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 BS.  Very few lives are truLY significant.

 

Want to know how much the world will change when you are gone?  Stick your finger in a bucket of water.  When you pull it out, the hole that remains is how much significance you had.

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 You change the world one person at a time.

Usually in ways you least suspect...

flan

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 That doesn't mean most people are truly significant.  

 

Sure, some people, one would hope, might miss them, but truly, thousands of people die every day and not more than one or two were truLY significant.

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 But I'm looking at it from the opposite perspective.

I have read thousands of books to thousands of children. Did I inspire a love of reading in any of them? I know I did. It's the little things, the people's lives that you personally touch.

flan

weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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He should just tell his kid that his mother was a blob of tissue. And, that she was just a randomly created bunch of chemicals and neurons with no real significance. And, that since the soul doesnt' exist, she is now plant fertilizer. Atheists are big on truth.

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 With no real significance? What on earth are you blathering about now?

Our lives are VERY significant. It's the only one we get.

It's not a practice run to see if we'll qualify for the Heaven Olympics.

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 BS.  Very few lives are truLY significant.

 

Want to know how much the world will change when you are gone?  Stick your finger in a bucket of water.  When you pull it out, the hole that remains is how much significance you had.

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 You change the world one person at a time.

Usually in ways you least suspect...

flan

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 That doesn't mean most people are truly significant.  

 

Sure, some people, one would hope, might miss them, but truly, thousands of people die every day and not more than one or two were truLY significant.

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So, you're saying that an atheist's life and a Christian's life have equal significance?

In other words...not much?

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Um, for the vast majority of people that is true.   

I can understand those who can't believe without proof though if you look at cultures a cross the board from the beginning of history, most if not all have mythology surrounding a place such as nirvana...Valhalla..., heaven if you will. And talk of beings like angels.
It could all be fiction but sometimes fiction has some fact in there. Why rule out the possibility?

huskerbb wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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He should just tell his kid that his mother was a blob of tissue. And, that she was just a randomly created bunch of chemicals and neurons with no real significance. And, that since the soul doesnt' exist, she is now plant fertilizer. Atheists are big on truth.

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 With no real significance? What on earth are you blathering about now?

Our lives are VERY significant. It's the only one we get.

It's not a practice run to see if we'll qualify for the Heaven Olympics.

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 BS.  Very few lives are truLY significant.

 

Want to know how much the world will change when you are gone?  Stick your finger in a bucket of water.  When you pull it out, the hole that remains is how much significance you had.

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 You change the world one person at a time.

Usually in ways you least suspect...

flan

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 That doesn't mean most people are truly significant.  

 

Sure, some people, one would hope, might miss them, but truly, thousands of people die every day and not more than one or two were truLY significant.

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So, you're saying that an atheist's life and a Christian's life have equal significance?

In other words...not much?

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Um, for the vast majority of people that is true.   

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 Husker - In looking for that hole your finger left, you missed seeing the ripples in the water that your finger created. What we do here may not have a LARGE impact, but typically it does have impact that radiates out in sometimes infinite waves long after we are gone - through our children and the people who's lives we touched. 

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 The ripples in the bucket are very temporary. 

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As are our lives...but they DO exist.

flan

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Not saying they don't exist--but outside of a very few people, the movers and shakers, as it were--most lives are not all that significant.

If they are still teaching about you in history class 100 years after you die--then you can start talking about being significant.

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 ANY positive change that you can make to another person's life IS significant, imho. I don't need to be famous.

flan

huskerbb wrote:

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Not saying they don't exist--but outside of a very few people, the movers and shakers, as it were--most lives are not all that significant.

If they are still teaching about you in history class 100 years after you die--then you can start talking about being significant.

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 There are a LOT of people they don't teach about in history books who are significant - that's a poor barometer for significance. I don't think you need to literally change the world to be significant. If you touch the life of one person for the better, inspire one person to do better, that is significance and that's enough for me. 

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Jesus said that if you simply give someone a cup of water in His name God takes notice:

New International Version Matthew 10:42
And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward."

In fact, God knows the very number of hairs on your head. In His eyes, you are of great significance. So, of course, the world may never know your name, but God does.

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 Rather the point.  

flan327 wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Not saying they don't exist--but outside of a very few people, the movers and shakers, as it were--most lives are not all that significant.

If they are still teaching about you in history class 100 years after you die--then you can start talking about being significant.

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 There are a LOT of people they don't teach about in history books who are significant - that's a poor barometer for significance. I don't think you need to literally change the world to be significant. If you touch the life of one person for the better, inspire one person to do better, that is significance and that's enough for me. 

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 I still think husker is confusing "significance" with "fame."

flan

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 Significance means to the world, not just your mom.

its not remotely the same thing as fame.  If the Olson twins dropped dead tomorrow, few would truLY care or be affected. 

When Antonin Scalia died, love him or hate him, it greatly affected this nation, for sure, and some decisions he made and would have made reverberated farther than that.

weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Not saying they don't exist--but outside of a very few people, the movers and shakers, as it were--most lives are not all that significant.

If they are still teaching about you in history class 100 years after you die--then you can start talking about being significant.

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 There are a LOT of people they don't teach about in history books who are significant - that's a poor barometer for significance. I don't think you need to literally change the world to be significant. If you touch the life of one person for the better, inspire one person to do better, that is significance and that's enough for me. 

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 I still think husker is confusing "significance" with "fame."

flan

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 Significance means to the world, not just your mom.

 

its not remotely the same thing as fame.  If the Olson twins dropped dead tomorrow, few would truLY care or be affected. 

When Antonin Scalia died, love him or hate him, it greatly affected this nation, for sure, and some decisions he made and would have made reverberated farther than that.

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 No, it doesn't. You can be significant to your family, your friends, your students, your patients, etc.

Show me any dictionary definition that claims it only means significant to the whole world.

The Unabridged Husker Dictionary doesn't count.

Even though you claim you're never wrong, you're wrong.

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 That's not significance.  You seem to have an inflated sense of importance.

huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Not saying they don't exist--but outside of a very few people, the movers and shakers, as it were--most lives are not all that significant.

If they are still teaching about you in history class 100 years after you die--then you can start talking about being significant.

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 There are a LOT of people they don't teach about in history books who are significant - that's a poor barometer for significance. I don't think you need to literally change the world to be significant. If you touch the life of one person for the better, inspire one person to do better, that is significance and that's enough for me. 

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 I still think husker is confusing "significance" with "fame."

flan

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 Significance means to the world, not just your mom.

 

its not remotely the same thing as fame.  If the Olson twins dropped dead tomorrow, few would truLY care or be affected. 

When Antonin Scalia died, love him or hate him, it greatly affected this nation, for sure, and some decisions he made and would have made reverberated farther than that.

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 No, it doesn't. You can be significant to your family, your friends, your students, your patients, etc.

Show me any dictionary definition that claims it only means significant to the whole world.

The Unabridged Husker Dictionary doesn't count.

Even though you claim you're never wrong, you're wrong.

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 That's not significance.  You seem to have an inflated sense of importance.

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Sounds like a healthy self esteem, frankly.

flan

huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Not saying they don't exist--but outside of a very few people, the movers and shakers, as it were--most lives are not all that significant.

If they are still teaching about you in history class 100 years after you die--then you can start talking about being significant.

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 There are a LOT of people they don't teach about in history books who are significant - that's a poor barometer for significance. I don't think you need to literally change the world to be significant. If you touch the life of one person for the better, inspire one person to do better, that is significance and that's enough for me. 

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 I still think husker is confusing "significance" with "fame."

flan

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 Significance means to the world, not just your mom.

 

its not remotely the same thing as fame.  If the Olson twins dropped dead tomorrow, few would truLY care or be affected. 

When Antonin Scalia died, love him or hate him, it greatly affected this nation, for sure, and some decisions he made and would have made reverberated farther than that.

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 No, it doesn't. You can be significant to your family, your friends, your students, your patients, etc.

Show me any dictionary definition that claims it only means significant to the whole world.

The Unabridged Husker Dictionary doesn't count.

Even though you claim you're never wrong, you're wrong.

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 That's not significance.  You seem to have an inflated sense of importance.

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Sounds like a healthy self esteem, frankly.

flan

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 Arrogance and conceit.

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 Right back atcha.

Words don't mean what YOU want them to mean.

Again show me a dictionary definition that claims significance only pertains to global significance.

huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Not saying they don't exist--but outside of a very few people, the movers and shakers, as it were--most lives are not all that significant.

If they are still teaching about you in history class 100 years after you die--then you can start talking about being significant.

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 There are a LOT of people they don't teach about in history books who are significant - that's a poor barometer for significance. I don't think you need to literally change the world to be significant. If you touch the life of one person for the better, inspire one person to do better, that is significance and that's enough for me. 

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 I still think husker is confusing "significance" with "fame."

flan

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 Significance means to the world, not just your mom.

 

its not remotely the same thing as fame.  If the Olson twins dropped dead tomorrow, few would truLY care or be affected. 

When Antonin Scalia died, love him or hate him, it greatly affected this nation, for sure, and some decisions he made and would have made reverberated farther than that.

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 No, it doesn't. You can be significant to your family, your friends, your students, your patients, etc.

Show me any dictionary definition that claims it only means significant to the whole world.

The Unabridged Husker Dictionary doesn't count.

Even though you claim you're never wrong, you're wrong.

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 That's not significance.  You seem to have an inflated sense of importance.

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Sounds like a healthy self esteem, frankly.

flan

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 Arrogance and conceit.

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 Right back atcha.

Words don't mean what YOU want them to mean.

Again show me a dictionary definition that claims significance only pertains to global significance.

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 Who carses what a dictionary says.  This is a question of whether or not the world will be different if You are not here.  Except for a few people, the answer is no.

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 Lol! You're adorable.

Words mean what they mean, not what YOU think they should mean.